Finn thinks fans saying Bleach is Nirvana's best work is too much of a contrarian, Hipster opinion, then saying One More Light is Linkin's Park's best work is pretty funny

@JoinMeInDeathBaby

2 ай бұрын

My contrarian take is right, your contrarian take is contrarian

@Retro-2-now

2 ай бұрын

My favorite album of all time is their Unplugged session. Something about that album takes me right back to that time in life

@deltamaxxhomevideo

2 ай бұрын

@@JoinMeInDeathBaby Contrary to contrarian belief, I take the contrary position.

@volodymyrbilyk555

2 ай бұрын

Bleach is really good noise rock album. However, they went on to better things afterwards

@allosanthrwpos542

2 ай бұрын

He has some serious double standards

Shoutout to the one dude in chat who asked for Milo Goes to College every 5 seconds throughout the video

@fpgam3r765

2 ай бұрын

lmaooo

@superunknown2812

2 ай бұрын

Sour Grapes

@DigitalBath306

2 ай бұрын

lmfao

@wahtdookie

2 ай бұрын

@@superunknown2812one of my fav Descendents song tbh

@superunknown2812

2 ай бұрын

@@wahtdookie yeah it's a great tune

Appetite for Destruction always felt like a gift from heaven to humanity. Like something that fell from the sky. I don’t even understand how 5 random drunk dudes did that. Doesn’t seem real. Probably the greatest example ever of accidental brilliance

@volodymyrbilyk555

2 ай бұрын

They been grinding for years and it showed. Large chunk of Use your illusion was also written during that time - and the quality really shows in contrast with the latter stuff that goes into more bombast direction

@em0tionalpavu1on

2 ай бұрын

There is no single good song on its own on this album though. Ranging from (mostly) unlistenable to (sometimes) meh. I wonder which exactly moments are great in Finn’a perspective

@stewartdowouis9218

2 ай бұрын

@@em0tionalpavu1onIs this a real life question? Literally half of the album was top 40 hits.

@LegoBuilderStudios

2 ай бұрын

@@em0tionalpavu1on My brother in Christ, Appetite for Destruction is one of those rare albums that is entirely skipless. Even the deep cuts such as Anything Goes and You're Crazy hit hard, and Rocket Queen (to me) is the greatest album closer of all time 🤓

@simondavies109

2 ай бұрын

I remember in school, 16 years old saying I don't like GNR. Thought I'd give them one more go, put Appetite on at the start of the summer holidays and didn't really put it off till the end.

finn always says the c tier is the real S tier so kill em all is his fav album of all time

@FinnMckentyPRMBA

2 ай бұрын

Got me

@mg682

2 ай бұрын

Ha! Got him!

@SuperStrik9

2 ай бұрын

I know dude hates Metallica. Fair enough. Even if you don't like Metallica and/or Kill Em All you have to acknowledge it's influence on thrash metal. Along with Slayer - Show No Mercy those albums were revolutionary in the metal scene.

@ThatShitGood

2 ай бұрын

@@SuperStrik9honestly he doesn’t hate metallica, what he genuinely hates is megadeth

@billtackett8217

2 ай бұрын

I thumbed-down this vid because of the Metallica take lol. Kill 'em All is a better debut than Bleach, ffs.

I consider Kill Em’ All not just one the best thrash albums, but one of the best albums in any genre not just in metal. It’s perfectly raw, has that nice teen angst in it yet competent musicians.. I don’t get how can one praise Show No Mercy while not being into Kill Em’ All Also 3 Dollar Bill Ya’ll is fucking awesome too.

@ThundersMcCoy

2 ай бұрын

Spot on. Add Nuns Have No Fun, Melissa & Black Metal to that group & that was life back in the day. I was always a Glam/Punk/Goth kid but when those records came out I was all about them. I'll still throw them on once a week or so.

@anticharlie1

2 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@Vivi_9

2 ай бұрын

KEA is laughably bad compared to the 4 albums that came after

@dyldog

2 ай бұрын

@@Vivi_9exactly😂 if anything Ride The Lightning is the best thrash album, but objectively no Metallica album is the “best of any genre”

@erikbritz8095

2 ай бұрын

I agree and saying kill em alls bad is a crime imo.

Three Dollar bill yall is A Tier

@gasmaskestore8018

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, killer record but everybody is too cool to admit it

@davidthejester34333

2 ай бұрын

B tier at best, besides best lb album

@benrobinson375

2 ай бұрын

I like LB but... nah :D

@rikevans3348

2 ай бұрын

That album is the only of its kind. One of my all time favorites

@kennethosburn2962

2 ай бұрын

He purposely chose the worst sound on that album to rate it as awful. Faith and Stuck are absolute God-tier recordings and have aged well.

Fin: "Debut albums are either the best or worst thing ever!" *Also Fin: puts the majority of albums in middle A - C tiers

@burningtheevidence8038

2 ай бұрын

Because that is originally an elitist/gatekeeper statement. Like "I've known this band before they became famous! Their first album is the best, y'all have no idea what you're talking about!" And I dont consider him being an elitist/gatekeeper. IMO the second/third album is the best one for a lot of bands. That's when they found their sound, know what works and what doesnt, and in case they got signed properly, a good producer might bring out the best of a band. Afterwards, a lot of bands become too polished/commercial or start to repeat themselves.

@meowtherainbowx4163

2 ай бұрын

I think that's because a lot of the bands he covered don't have any terrible albums, so their worst album is still B or C tier.

@emartinezr

2 ай бұрын

He said that from the view of "the public". ie people just shout out extreme opinions and don't look/listen to things objectively......

@michaeldoyle189

2 ай бұрын

​@burningtheevidence8038 proper take. Bands typically have a similar trajectory. Debut lays the ground work. 2nd album sets the direction the band will take. Third is usually where the sound of the band, musicianship, songwriting, and production really come together. It's rare that a band's 4th+ album is a band at their peak.

I have ZERO millennial nostalgia for 3 dollar bill yall and that shit is awesome as fuck

@bushleague3472

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely, for me everything that LB did after was a letdown. Not sure how a guy who's into actual punk, rap, and HC could think so little of that album.

@JONDAVIS111

2 ай бұрын

He's out of his fucking mind. It's easily 1 or 1.a

@laurisaarinen1126

Ай бұрын

It's the only LB album that was really raw and unhinged, kind of in a similar spirit to Korn and early Slipknot, still had some of it on Significant Other but started getting bit less interesting. I never get people praising Break Stuff, it was one of the first bad signs of the direction they were going for.

I am 100% sure that Finn has never listened to Three Dollar Bill Y'all

@lowerbodyinjury

2 ай бұрын

facts, record slaps

@albertfrostmire6706

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I love it. But I am from Jacksonville so I might be biased.

@gasmaskestore8018

2 ай бұрын

@@albertfrostmire6706 I am from Mexico and we love it here

@jakehutson7534

2 ай бұрын

It’s my favourite album that they did, pollution and sour are some of my favourite songs ever

@gasmaskestore8018

2 ай бұрын

@@jakehutson7534 Pollution, Sour, Everything, Counterfeit, front to back S Tier record, crazy riffs and basslines

Korn- self titled, Deftones- Adrenaline, Foo Fighters- self titled, Green Day- Kerplunk, alkaline trio- Goddamnit. All S Tier

@johngrimm3837

2 ай бұрын

39/smooth was green days debut

@barkley8285

2 ай бұрын

No to all

@spacegrass2738

2 ай бұрын

Great list

@johnsonnavinr2522

2 ай бұрын

Nah

@michaeldoyle189

2 ай бұрын

Love the Deft Ones. But Adrenaline is kind of terrible. Has a few songs I still go back to regularly. But there are some cringe moments that didn't age well. That to me is the issue with a lot of Nu Metal, I may have loved it at the time, but much of it didn't age well.

I mean Psycho Synner's 100 albums released in one year were all unskippable 10's.

Sound of the Seventh Trumpet being bad is a horrific take. This actually nails the early 00s metalcore sound and is good af.

@Kodeb8

2 ай бұрын

It's their sloppiest album but it has soul!

@StableDruid130

2 ай бұрын

I love that album but it's not good, it's got some redeeming elements to it(Rev doing drums in one take was cool) but a lot of the lyrics really aren't up to snuff with what Avenged Sevenfold put out later, even as soon as WTF. The vocals are bad, the mixing absolutely sucks. Production is non-existent. It doesn't really feel like it knows what it's trying to do a lot of the time, and while yes it has soul, just didn't really have what makes A7X A7X yet. I really enjoy it but I feel like there's something that needs to be reevaluated if you don't think that it's at best a C tier album.

@alvatrous

2 ай бұрын

Lips of deceit was one I always liked but the album as a whole…

@legendsidewinder7206

2 ай бұрын

I agree

@codyscards6698

2 ай бұрын

I really like the album. Not perfect for sure, but has a lot of cool stuff on it.

" "Alright, yeah!" -James Hetfield " -Finn McKenty, 2024

As a biased The Strokes enjoyer, Is This It is an easy S tier. Influenced a ton of bands after its release as well. Massive impact on the next generation of “rock” artists

@CraigMahaney

2 ай бұрын

Completely agree. Great album every song is great.

@AlqhemyA

2 ай бұрын

agreed, every Strokes album is an easy S tier for me

3 Dollar Bill Y’all was amazing.

@JONDAVIS111

2 ай бұрын

He's out of his God damn mind. 3 dollar bill is easily top 2. I'd say insignificant other 1 and 3 dollar bill 1a

@rikevans3348

2 ай бұрын

"It doesn't even sound like they're playing the same song". Finns trying a little too hard there. $3 bill yall is amazing

Pearl Jam's Ten is S tier. I know you're not into it Finn, but it's probably the second most iconic and successful rock album of the early 90s. That said, I like Vs and Vitalogy more

I’ve heard you talk about Appetite For Destruction many times and I 100% agree, god tier album. Would love to see a whole video about it one day.

Obituary, Sepultura, Hatebreed, Slipknot and Emmure all have S tier debut albums

I still love slayers debut because it sounds more like Judas Priest but with the Slayer edge

@joshuaprietophoto

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely.

@LimpyKjr117

2 ай бұрын

Fight Til Death is such a fun riff to play too, The Antichrist, Tormentor and Black Magic are great.

@volodymyrbilyk555

2 ай бұрын

Judas Priest and Venom. And then Celtic Frost took it even further

Weird. I am not a Metallica fan (neither a hater, just whatever) and I really like Kill em All. I love the rawness they put on that. What I do am is a Nirvana fan and Bleach is their worst studio album... Which isn't a bad thing to say because everything else they recorded is simply great. Bleach is, IMO, a very good debut and you can already see signs of a huge band in there. But... Better than Nevermind? No fucking way

@bushleague3472

2 ай бұрын

To me Nevermind sounded too radio rock, and Utero sounded like it was more concerned with making a point than actually being good. Bleach just comes off as raw and natural, and factoring in the budget/ time/ equipment limitations that album is a masterpiece IMO. I can understand liking Nevermind more, but Utero, really? It honestly sounds like at least 1/3 of the vocals on that album use roughly the same melody line.

@simondavies109

2 ай бұрын

Objectively definately better than Nevermind. Proper grunge.

@dph025prod

11 күн бұрын

Bleach has some great songs, but Grohl is the difference between okay Bleach Nirvana and amazing Nevermind Nirvana. I still think Bleach is better than most of In Utero, that album just seemed like such a let down.

It's pretty funny listening to Finn say "this is bad, it sounds like a local band" when all of these bands were literally local bands since it's their first album

I'm in my 40's and I like limp bizkit now. It's corny, but it rocks when you're BBQing.." Give me something break"😅

@spacegrass2738

2 ай бұрын

Same here.I’m 46 and never cared for them.For some reason I love them now 🤷🏽

@benrobinson375

2 ай бұрын

Yeah Limp Bizkit is corny and fun. Interestingly I never cared for them during their heyday either.

@Bigmouthstrikes82

2 ай бұрын

So sorry

@kdeeznuttz

2 ай бұрын

@@Bigmouthstrikes82 for what?

$3 dollar bill is amazing. Don't care what anyone says.

@jadenhancock

2 ай бұрын

Fr one of my favorites

@RWDPwr

2 ай бұрын

Very underrated if you are into the genre

@Shortmansyndromexd

2 ай бұрын

Especially sour easily most underrated track on the album

Whilst they weren’t precisely the first, the Strokes did it right. It sounds authentic because they recorded it in a room together like a “real” band. They purposely made it sound like shit, but the musicianship holds up and everyone wanted to be them or fuck them. Everyone else aped them and then the scene ate itself.

@Interestingenough4

2 ай бұрын

Besides The Strokes, The Arctic Monkeys, The Black Keys, and The White Stripes were the only other bands who did that whole "retro garage revival rock" trend right in my opinion, then like you said the scene quickly ate itself with copycats, some of whom still managed to squeak out some solid songs. But the trend still proved to be influential, despite being short-lived. The Killers and Cage The Elephant were basically its spiritual successors, they sold pretty well and had huge hits. And The Black Keys and The Arctic Monkeys hit their career peaks YEARS after the trend was out of fashion.

The guy from Lagwagon said it best, "At the start the band is more focused on rehearsal, not recording techniques, so they end up sounding more like they do live, and that's why many people prefer the bands first albums".

The production may be pretty "meh" for Kill em All, but there are some bangers on the album. "Seek and Destroy" , "Whiplash", "Four Horsemen" and "Phantom Lord" are all up there. I always think of "Kill em All" as the most fun Metallica album.

I honestly like A7X's debut album. lol

@CraigMahaney

2 ай бұрын

Nice never heard it. I saw them open for I think dio or mushrooomhead. Wasnt impressed but Rev was at the merch booth looking bored.

@Jedan1806

Ай бұрын

I agree I feel like the sloppiness and overall chaos makes it super fun to listen to.

If you make a part 2 of this. I think The Poison from Bullet for my valentine deserves a shout!

@Bloods2006

2 ай бұрын

Such an incredible album. It wasn’t until I got older and started playing guitar where I could truly appreciate how difficult playing some of those songs are. They had a band called ‘John Killed Jeff’ or something along those lines before BFMV which is more nu metal

@alvatrous

2 ай бұрын

Funny enough I think their ep hand of blood is even better

@zterpz7332

2 ай бұрын

Scream aim fire is their debut lolll?

@dudeno3182

2 ай бұрын

@@zterpz7332 no, Scream Aim Fire was their second album, it came out in 2008, The Poison was in 2005.

@zterpz7332

2 ай бұрын

@@dudeno3182 bro Google it, scream aim fire its literally their debut

I've just done 3 weeks of listening to bands first albums from my collection. I had forgotten how good some of them were. Kill em all is still one of my favourites despite better albums later down the line. Bleach I thought was great. Really nice to get that more rough and ready nirvana sound. Pablo honey by radio head was a stand out for me. I was shamed i had left it so long between listens. And shout out to frogstomp by sliverchair. So damn young and it sounded so good. The definition of having a 10 years experience requirement for your first job.

How dare you say something so vile as "3 Dollar Bill Y'all is absolute trash!" My butt...it hurts...so very bad.

@twwells

2 ай бұрын

I love that album

@elcheekoful

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I've got to get some 💊💉 for my butt hurt agony. I gotta see the Dr soon.

Nirvana is tough because all 3 albums sound quite different. I can see people that like metal or Melvins type sludge grunge liking Bleach best. Nevermind is way more pop and straightforward and hooky. In Utero is rawer depressioncore. Obviously Nevermind is the most influential, though.

@barkley8285

2 ай бұрын

Unplugged too

There's actually a LOT of people who actually prefer that early Thrash era when it was evolving out of Speed Metal. 1986 was the gamechanger year for Thrash when those bands when Metallica and Slayer released the "genre-defining" albums Master & Reign but over time I've grown a HUGE appreciation for the early pre-1986 albums that have that sweet spot between Traditional Heavy Metal and fully formed Thrash Metal. There's a unique charm to the style of those early albums that was lost when Thrash fully evolved. Don't get me wrong - LOVE full-blown Thrash - Justice is actually my favourite Thrash record - but I can TOTALLY see why people would rate the debuts as their favourites.

Bleach is alright. It's literally just two separate recordings from two different sessions glued together & called an album.

@itjustgetsworseproductions

2 ай бұрын

One half of the album was recorded with Dale cover (of the Melvins) & the other half was recorded with their new drummer at the time Chad channing a couple months after. They had two / three lineup changes by the time they even got the album out.

@simondavies109

2 ай бұрын

Bleach is a fantastic album. Brilliant raw sound and the guitars and vocals are killer!

@itjustgetsworseproductions

2 ай бұрын

@simondavies109 bleach is great. If you're still in high school. I think Nevermind & in utero have more to offer in lyrics, songwriting, riffs, & the entire package as a whole. I think bleach could've been so much more in my eyes had the band released it a year earlier.

@simondavies109

2 ай бұрын

​@@itjustgetsworseproductionsYeah I don't always think music is 'subjective' but definately with Nirvana mate. In Utero my personal favourite. I also think Incesticide is massively underrated.

Nah, finn and chat are crazy. Kill Em All is an amazing solid album.

Twisted Sister's Under the Blade, Aereogramme's Story in White, Dredg's Leitmotif, Korn's Korn, Roxette's and David Hasselhoff's debuts, Rage Against the Machine's Rage Against the Machine, Kyuss'ss'ss'sss Blues for the Red Sun... all S tier.

3 Dollar Bill is fucking incredible. You couldn’t be more wrong

@Kodeb8

2 ай бұрын

Right? Their first 3 albums are GOATED but TDBY is their best!

@Cheps69

2 ай бұрын

It's the only one I like, everything afterwards was crap, well except for the song with Method Man

@Jaweatherford86

2 ай бұрын

Hell yeah. Gold Cobra is the worst LB album. Some people say Results May Vary but those people are wrong.

@anti-liberal7167

2 ай бұрын

I agree 💯💯💯

@ax4encrypted

2 ай бұрын

Their best and hardest album

Hybrid theory is a no skip. Best album for me and they aren't even in my top 10 bands

Would love to see u review the frosty 3eb album front to back it’s beautiful and catchy

Hell yeah ! I agree with you on Appetite for Destruction . I loved that raw gritty sleazy sound and how well you could hear the bass work by Duff . Not a bad song on it . Some songs im worn out on a bit but it still don't change the fact they were all killer ! I wish they would have stuck with that vibe . LIES EP was cool too .

100% agree on Appetite. Hands down one of the greatest rock albums of all time. Perfection.

@goldenageofdinosaurs7192

2 ай бұрын

It’s definitely in that ‘All Time Great Debut Albums’ tier.

Need to put calculating infinity in the next tier list

Cro Mags. Pretty perfect debut

Hmmm....for S Tier debuts, I'd definitely go (chronologically): KISS Van Halen I Iron Maiden Kill 'Em All Show No Mercy Soul of a New Machine

I would like to hear a take on the idea of first and sophmore album should be 1-2 perfect combo in order to secure artists name as legendary. Same with movies. As an example people often put Tarantino with Dogs & Pulp Fiction. What are the best 1-2 punch albums. And the same with first 3 songs run on the record.

@needfoolthings

2 ай бұрын

Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, Aereogramme, Dredg, Tool, Twisted Sister, Radiohead, Nirvana, System of a Down, David Hasselhoff, Rage Against the Machine, Marilyn Manson, The 3rd & the Mortal, Queens of the Stone Age, Dimmu Borgir, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Mogwai, Kinderzimmer Productions, Theatre of Tragedy, Boston, Rammstein... I really don't know how exactly to stop this list.

I do love sounding the 7th trumpet alot but only for we come out at night shattered by broken dreams and warmness of the soul

My fav Blink songs ate on Nine. Ive been listening since the 90's. Liked the Matt Skiba stuff.

You should do a tier list of self titled albums because so many bands have at least one self titled album

Oh shit, that Blink song was in an old snowboard video I had back in like 1994. Pretty sure I still have the tape, but no VCR anymore, lol. Sucks, cuz now I wanna watch it!

One of the guys from a7x was in a cheezy Jr college recording class with me in 98

Shit, I'm 33 and was delighted when you started playing Hit the Lights.

Some inclusions for the next iteration of this segment- Pantera. As I Lay Dying. Slipknot. Good Charlotte. Killswitch Engage. Stone Temple Pilots. Rage Against the Machine. Also, would be cool to do a similar tier list with sophomore albums with the same bands.

The box when it's not tight at all sounds super good in some genres, Avenged Sevenfold made that a bodacious thing with their first album.

i love Finns "link in bio" bit to start every video lol. make that money!

@FinnMckentyPRMBA

2 ай бұрын

I mean, yes? That’s literally the purpose of every job, right?

@asilaycrying6663

2 ай бұрын

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Absolutely!

You should react to Hammerhed. They’re a couple young dudes that sound like a more technical version of classic Sepultura.

@travisdelee8647

2 ай бұрын

Yo..... Heavener is an awesome album

Low key surprised you didn’t look at frogstomp by silverchair (my favourite debut album)

🎉vols 2 and 3 soon plz. Do sophmore slums too

7:10 How did I know this was coming 😂 I will always love The Rev as an inspiration and icon, but the 7th trumpet isn't what captured me at all.

A fever you can't sweat out still holds up today!

This was the most spot on tier List on all points well done. I just wish Sublime got some love with "'Jah Won't Pay The Bills" is one of the best debut albums for any band ever released. Includes Finn's' favorite Sublime song ever Badfish.

Scott is a highly underrated drummer. He had some genuinely great parts on Dude Ranch. I personally find many of Travis's parts to be very weird, like Adam's Song

Kill em all is a favourite of mine. The first song I ever learnt on guitar was seek and destroy so I'll always love it. A great debut imo

Hybrid Theory is one of the best opening albums of all-time in my opinion and my favorite album of theirs.

appetite is definitely an s tier album but I really love the solos on some of the use your illusion songs

Marilyn Manson’s first album is dripping with punk saliva… I’m really shocked it doesn’t get more attention from the punk scene. It’s such a strange, cool, corky nightmare record with some very original guitar work and fun songs.

@spacegrass2738

2 ай бұрын

Awesome album

@sinistersix3721

2 ай бұрын

Best album Manson put out. I still only listen to his first 3 only

IMHO, The Killers and The Cars have absolutely amazing debut albums both in terms of immediate impact and longevity. Both were absolute pop/rock MONSTERS with several (at least 5) hits and transcended genres. Brilliant albums.

Contradictions Collapse has one the sickest coolest bass tone of all time. The way it’s so throaty and metallic sounding it perfect I don’t think any other bass tone comes close.

That first Avenged Sevenfold album is bad, but Rev's snare tone on that thing is oh so good.

I actually enjoy Avenged Sevenfold’s first album. My favorite song on the album is STREETS, simply because how fast the Rev shreds on those drums. 😱🥁 I don’t think it’s terrible, but it’s definitely enjoyable for what it was, but I’m very aware that it’s not their best work whatsoever and no songs were iconic from that album at all.

That avenge has some old poison the well vibes

You guys do realize that all bands are local bands at some point.

@Petergrayguitar

Ай бұрын

People that assume that local bands suck are shitting on their local music scene and making it EVEN harder for musicians to make a living and, therefore, for music to thrive. By what logic does one come to the conclusion that good music has to come from somewhere other than their home town? It's completely bullshit.

Waken the fallen by Avenged right after this one kicks ass tho. That was one of my all time favs in my teenage years

From my understanding all the material on Kill 'em All is technically a few years older than when it debut in 1983, so yes it is closer to speed metal and why Ride the Lightning sounds more departed and "advanced" despite coming out a year after Kill 'em All

Panic only ever released one good album. But Fever is fucking incredible. On regular rotation.

S TIER: (Best or near best work by artist) Gwar - Scumdogs of the universe Korn - Self titled Propaghandi - How to clean everything Unbreakable Hatred - Total Chaos Crass - The Feeding of the 5000 Minor Threat - Minor Threat Berurier Noir - Macadam Massacre Half moon run - Dark eyes Motorhead - Self titled Hein Cooper - The art of Escape Cynic - Focus Fall of Effrafa - Owsla Les Ramoneurs de Menhirs- Dañs an diaoul The Maggoty Brats- Danse Macabre Rob - zombie - Hellbilly Deluxe Sum 41 - All killer no filler Nile - Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka Misery Index - Retaliate Zeal and Ardor- Devil is fine Kitty - Spit Tenacious D - Self titled Beastie Boy - Licenced to Ill Ramones - Self titled Suffocation - Effigy of the forgotten Rage against the machine- Self titled A tier: (Solid work but not their best album) The accused - The return of Martha Splaterhead S.O.D - Speak english or die D.R.I - Dirty Rotten Cryptopsy- Blasphemy made flesh D.B.C - Dead Brain Cells Groovy Aardvark- Eaters digest Rammstein - Herzeleid Marylin Manson - Portrait of an American Familly Foo Figther - Self Titled Darkthrone - Soulside Journey Iron Maiden - Self titled Misfits - Walk among us Metric - Live it out Dropkick Murphys - Do or Die Tool - undertow Oathbreaker - Maelström The Cranberries- Everybody is doing it so ehy can't we Bad Religion - How could else be any worst Pennywise - Self titled Immortal- Full moon mysticism White Ward - Origins Twenty one pilot - Self titled Sacred Reich - Ignorance Bloodhound gang - Use your fingers (Hed) P.E - Self titled F tier : (Shit or far from their best work) Slipknot - Mate Feed kill repeat Pantera - Metal Magic Nofx - Liberal Animation (I think it's good but far from their best/known work) Refused - This just might be the truth (again good but far from their succesfull albums) Silverchair - Frogstomp Red Hot Chili Peppers - Self titled (not bad att all but so far from their greatest work) Papa Roach - Old friend from young years Voivod - War and pain (good but even the remastered version is still super rough sounding) The Offsprings - Self titled (good but so far yet from the perfect album that is Smash) Eskimo Callboy - Bury me in vegas (Generic MySpace mish-mash) Ministry - White Sympathy (Not bad but far from what their known for) Kid Rock - Grits Sandwiches for breakfast (Not that he ever made great albums, he was for a moment popular on MTV. But this one surely wasn't going to make him the well known figure he is today)

1st Panic at the disco truly was one of my favorite albums....never listened to them after tho lmaoo

aye bro say what you want about kill em all, but there’s at least 4 banger bangers on there

What about the Drug In Me Is You?

Where do you put Korn on the tier?

Some of the bands with terrible first albums I think depends on the difficulty of the music, like before greatness, there were things they had to work out, and live it before they elevated. Some styles are harder to pull off than others, or some are more natural. With hindsight we can look at an old album and see where it went and then determine if that is good. For metal the hump could be locking in the chugs, or rock getting the bad ideas out before evolving them into good variations cohesive with the sound. Some writing needs to be bad, before it can be good IMO. Good selection. Fun to see where they started and how all of these artists elevated their game

No other song in existence gives me more nostalgia than Carousel off of Cheshire Cat. Favorite Blink song ever.

i mean we must mention terror one with the underdogs what a debut! entombed another band from sweden with a great debut album. suicide silence the cleansing has to be one of the best debut albums also.

Rage against the machine has my all time favorite debut album.Masterpiece!! Facelift is awesome too.My older brothers always say the first Van Halen album is great.My wife loves the Blind Melon debut

Timestamps: 1:46 Cheshire Cat- Blink-182 3:21 Kill Em All- Metallica 4:53 Hybrid Theory- Linkin Park 6:09 Nirvana- Bleach 7:10 Sounding The Seventh Trumpet- Avenged Sevenfold 8:54 Slayer- Show No Mercy 10:00 A Fever You Can't Sweat Out- Panic! At The Disco 10:54 Appetite For Destruction- Guns N Roses 12:17 Three Dollar Bill Y'All- Limp Bizkit 13:17 Is This It- The Strokes 14:36 Contradictions Collapse- Meshuggah

Meshuggah definitely found their identity on Destroy Erase Improve

I could listen to Finn gush about Gn'R "Appetite For Destruction" for 60 minutes straight. It like ASMR for me.

Since you mentioned The Hives I just wanna say they actually came back with a new album out of nowhere like a year ago and it's actually way better than any of their old stuff IMO. "Bogus Operandi" is a fuckin banger idc what anyone says.

Hybrid theory is really the only linkin park album I ever got into. Respect their work, but this album is the only one I rock and my teenage daughters love it too.

@fehner27

2 ай бұрын

Crawling is my favorite Linkin Park song and it's not really even that close.

@AceofSpades-zi6zx

Ай бұрын

Meteora is the other Linkin Park album worth listening too imo

Appetite was NOT GnR’s debut album. They had an album before titled “Live Like a Suicide” which was rereleased later as part of Lies

I think it’s funny that the first two examples you used are first albums that are neither the worst or the best

Contradictions Collapse is brilliant. One of Meshuggah's best albums.

I’m actually floored you didn’t talk about Korn’s OR Suicide Silence’s debut albums. Both would be S tier for you too!

Some people often forget Dave wasn’t in the band for bleach either

Kill em all was one of my first albums. I still love it.

As a metallica and a7x fan, i understand your opinions and respect them

@dominikaksiazek7177

2 ай бұрын

I'm A7X's fan but STST is the only album I'm not able to listen to, haha 😅 Their progress as musicians and songwriters is very noticeable. Just four years after STST they wrote City of Evil, a masterpiece. Also, look at their last album, such a brilliant piece of art compared to the debut and a real prog album.

@matheusreuter9600

2 ай бұрын

​@@dominikaksiazek7177city of evil is one of my favorites of all times

Sounding the seventh trumpet takes me back to smoking swag in high school

I was listening to that first Panic album on first day of my college graphic design class, but I didn't realize my headphones weren't plugged in so everyone heard it. It was so damn embarrassing when I realized my headphones weren't plugged in.

There's a cool skate punk song on that ax7 album I like I think it's called streets or something?

Sounding the Seventh Trumpet is not a bad album. The production is bad and the songs needed cleaned up, but if they had been in a real studio with an experienced producer, I don't think anyone would hate it the way they do. As far as early 2000s metalcore goes, it was really solid. The production and sound quality just ruins it

Bleach is the album you listen to when you want to hear Nirvana sound live. Not saying the other albums are corny are anything, but Bleach has pure unmatched nature like the live shows.

Hey Finn dude man. I don't know if you are aware of this, but the appetite for destruction we got at the record store was not the original recording of the album. There was actually a different recording of it that was released a couple year's before that one and it is almost entirely different than that one. It's the same song's but the words in most of them are different and "in my opinion" it's a little more aggressive and MIGHT be better than the one the label released💁‍♂️

@stewartdowouis9218

2 ай бұрын

You may be thinking of the Hollywood Rose demos. That wasnt the whole album and was before Slash was involved.

@LimpyKjr117

2 ай бұрын

Was that the one with the alternate cover art that was replaced with the one we all know?

@Roger-fs5yo

2 ай бұрын

​@stewartdowouis9218 I know what you are referring to but that's not it. There is an appetite for destruction album they released locally that only had like a few hundred copies made. There's a woman here on KZread that has it and it's complete with cover art and everything. I mean perhaps it is that Hollywood rose demo album and they just recorded it again with Slash in it. But I do know it's GNR appetite for destruction with the entire band in it👌

@stewartdowouis9218

2 ай бұрын

@@LimpyKjr117No. That was the same record. He has to be referring to the stuff Axl and Izzy did before they met slash and Steven. Look up Hollywood Rose

@LimpyKjr117

2 ай бұрын

@@stewartdowouis9218 and the early version of L.A. Guns had a member, or maybe it was just members of both bands formed gnr as the final band