The biggest part of Murray’s game has to be how consistent he is at showing up in crunch time. In this years playoff run Murray hit so many clutch buckets when all of our shooters went cold. Easily the most underrated part of his game

@ye.ha.8378

Жыл бұрын

he is the opposite of consistent

@bballhub1970

Жыл бұрын

@@ye.ha.8378crunch time. Go back and look at his off shooting nights and even in those games most of the shots he makes were in… crunch time.

@jrams4145

Жыл бұрын

​@@ye.ha.8378tell me you didn't actually read the comment without telling me you didn't actually read the comment

@ye.ha.8378

Жыл бұрын

@@bballhub1970 um game 5 against the Lakers will like a conversation same against the Suns in game 3,4. so no his consistency is bad but better than it used to be

I would put Jamal Murray higher because he put up superstar like numbers in the playoffs. Otherwise, I really like the breakdown of each player's tendencies and what their strengths/weaknesses are.

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

That’s fair, each guy can be swung multiple spots in either direction without much of an argument from me.

@traywaters1575

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Still amazing breakdown

I just don’t understand how someone can analyze the game this well and notice so many small details. Great stuff. Also, as a Grizz fan, nice to see Jaren top 25.

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Really appreciate that, and glad you enjoyed!

I would watch a documentary on your basketball opinions. This is the kind of content I search out on KZread

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that, and thanks for your support!

@Jsch23

Жыл бұрын

@HoopVenue hell yeah man. When does 16-20 video drop?

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Tomorrow!

@Jsch23

Жыл бұрын

@HoopVenue dude thats awesome I'm so used to bball KZreadrs dropping one a week which I understand but getting a next day vid is exciting! you and thinking basketball are my favorites right now ill engage with ur channel as much as possible! Great work!

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

@@Jsch23 That means a lot 🙏🏻

I would rank Murray higher tbh. In three playoff appearances he has a averaged close to a 22 PER 58 TS% 4.8 BPM And I don’t see as many players being the perfect number 2 next to Jokic due to his ability to play off the ball. He’s also just a great competitor similar in the vain of a Tony Parker who alway elevated his game when the lights were brightest which is hard to say for many other players in the league. The fact he’s done all this despite the ACK setback is also incredible and speaks to his drive to be great.

@rb9888

Жыл бұрын

antman is better than him

@PinkyLov3r

Жыл бұрын

​@@rb9888nope

@ajagule

Жыл бұрын

@@rb9888 Based on what? There's so much fluff in the nba today. I respect Antman's game, but for you to come and say he's better than Jamal who has been to the western comference finals twice and won one, is comical. I can debate what Jamal would have accomplished to date he had not been injured the past 2 seasons (that's discussion for another time).This is the reason why nba fans keep sending players to the allstar game based mostly on reputation and not on what they have accomplished professionally. Such a joke!

@rb9888

Жыл бұрын

@@ajagule have you seen all the matches between denver and minnesota? obviously not. antman is on another level than murray. and i like murray. and i've been supporting denver for the last 3 years. i watch almost every their game. but antman was just torturing them. his stats were beyond crazy. and that consistency! just watch again all 5 games and then tell me.

@marco5030

Жыл бұрын

​@@ajaguleI also think Murray is too low and clearly better than Ant, but your arguments aren't fair. Murray has Jokic as a teammate, more time and a much better team in the league - of course he would have more success.

Perfect offseason content

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

Murray is top 15 at the very least he proved how important he was by winning the chip this year had yet another incredible playoff run

Great breakdown looking forward to the rest of this series!

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

Love the breakdowns, especially excited for ant if he can get a consistent floater/mid range. He is so young!

This is epic, it's been sick seeing you come up from

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the support!

Jamal is top 15 imo, the champion deserves a bit more respect.

@flizzy4645

Жыл бұрын

Controversial top 50 for sure 15 is too high

@orlando9103

Жыл бұрын

He’s great but with the talent in the league rn top 15 would be severely overrating him.

@ryanandrew9233

Жыл бұрын

​@orlando9103 how?? Most guards would die to have the playoff stats he has. He was setting records with jokic and without

@dm1964

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@ryanandrew9233most guards in the league don’t play alongside the best player in the nba. You’d imagine that would take a ton of pressure off him especially when his entire game is based off pick&rolls with that best player in the league and dhos with that best player in the league

@danielfenning3902

Жыл бұрын

​@@dm1964shows how little you know about the Nuggets and how little you watched them

thanks for this man, keep going up ⬆️

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the support!

Murray just put up Steph numbers and won a chip. He is top 15 right now. he averaged 26,7,7. end of story. I mean bruh.. he won the chip.

@diegochavez6203

Жыл бұрын

Exactly they overrate tf out of Steph than underrated a guy that just did what he did when curry was stacked af

high quality content subbed

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

Hands down the best NBA analyst. Loved your playoff videos too man

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the support!

Great analysis 🔥

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that!

Its crazy that Murray and Harden are ranked next to eachother. they're not even close. if Murray is on 76ers, they might win the chip. In the biggest game, Murray will give you 30,10. Harden will give you 8 points on 16 shots and 4 assists to 8 turnovers.. you'll say how is he an NBA player. They're just on opposite sides of the spectrum in my opinion. We are comparing clutch and not clutch.

Keep going you'll be huge someday 👍👍👍

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that!

Nah this was tough no cap🔥

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that!

🔥 when’s the next one coming?

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Tomorrow! These will be daily releases until the entire 25 is done.

“One of the games best illegal screeners” sums it up very nicely lol

Thats disrespectful to put jamal that low.

great vid. i’d rank jamal in the 18-21 range

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Totally fair!

I would have murray over bam tbh

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Totally fair!

See you’ve been heavily inspired by Ben Taylor, respect the knowledge and videos 👍

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Definitely a huge inspiration for the content and approach to the game!

1. Nikola Jokic C 2. Giannis Antetokounmpo PF 3. Steph Curry PG 4. Joel Embiid C 5. Kevin Durant PF 6. Luka Doncic PG 7. LeBron James SF 8. Anthony Davis PF 9. Kawhi Leonard SF 10. Jimmy Butler SF 11. Jayson Tatum SF 12. Damian Lillard PG 13. Kyrie Irving SG 14. Devin Booker SG 15. Ja Morant PG 16. Jamal Murray PG 17. Bam Adebayo PF 18. Anthony Edwards SG 19. Shai Gilgeous Alexander PG 20. Jaylen Brown SG 21. Donovan Mitchell SG 22. James Harden SG 23. Paul George SF 24. De’Aaron Fox PG 25. Trae Young PG this is what i came up with, idk if its good or bad but i thought it was decent

imo murray top 15 no bias

I dont get how yo dont consider murray a positive on D. Everytime opponents tried to hunt him he moved well and stood his ground. I dont feel like he got blown by as much as you said either. Always brings energy and toughness on that end too. Hes a smart defender too i would say, even if hes sometimes prone to fall asleep on that end. But maybe im factoring in the playoffs too much, he wasnt as locked in in the reg season.

Next year !Urfa’s will be top 15

You analyze draft we need more content like this though I can disagree n still respect analysis. Most draft takes I’ve seen been horrible

Honestly wish you were doing a top 50 😂

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

I can’t even imagine how long that would take 😭

@MikeTheNBAGuy

Жыл бұрын

@HoopVenue Oh I'm sure it'd take forever lol

Curious if you ranked Jamal this low just cause you were concerned about backlash from people who are still sleep on his game? I think he be in the next tier of rankings. I think you’re gonna have trae young above him and d Mitch guys like that. Jamal is in that 15-20 range

No way you put Ant at 25 disrespect top 3 playoff scorer this year

@parisgrayson1513

Жыл бұрын

And 2 blocks and 2 steals in the playoffs

"Murray doesn't get to the line as much as other elite scorers" Yeah that's every Nuggets player, it's not like they draw less contact the league just genuinely gives them less calls, especially when they're smacking a media powerhouse. It's actually pretty embarrassing for the league how most top team's have literally the least FTA, then you get their two favorite teams (Lakers and 76ers) leading the league by a HUGE margin. What a crazy disparity. Having Murray and Harden next to each other is wild considering Murray is levels above him in every category of basketball controlled by the players

Great list so far. I would of have had Tyrese and Ingram instead of JJJ and Murray.

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Those were 2 of my first guys off, can’t disagree with that!

@robshelden4670

Жыл бұрын

Murray just won a Chip and broke records along the way, why would Tyrese be higher on any list? He’s done NOTHING to this point, maybe he will be a 16 game player. But, since Philly can’t seem to get past the 2nd round, we may never know.

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Tbf, he’s referring to Haliburton, not Maxey here

@Matthew-xl5bc

Жыл бұрын

@@robshelden4670I was referring to Halliburton. My bad for the confusion. My only drawback with Murray is his inconsistent regular season performance.

@isaotron

Жыл бұрын

Murray's inconsistent regular season performance is easily explained by him returning from his ACL injury. His numbers only went up as the season went forwards.

Bam adebayo in not top 25 player

I have Halliburton over ant but I won’t argue about it

@rb9888

Жыл бұрын

antman is the best of these 5 players imho. and far better than haliburton. watch his games. he was the second best player on the floor during the series with denver. better than murray

Jokic backed Bam down from the three point line a handful of times each game. But you say say Bam held his own. Come on man. Lol.

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Jokic does that to everyone, including AD and Gobert. Bam did very well considering that every single Jokic defender starts at a constant disadvantage.

My dawg u watch this season? Where fox took the poverty of poverty franchises on his back to the playoffs and took the warriors to 7 games. 25-6-5 clutch player of the year. Top in shooting % in games within 5 or two mins. My man balled out against curry wit a broken finger. U got freakin Ant over homie, you don’t watch the whole league I watch my team but I also watch for my favorite players who can fr hoop. He’s slowly becoming one of my favorite dudes for just the amount of disrespect he gets.

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

I watch the entire league, made multiple Fox/Kings videos. Wouldn’t have a problem with anyone putting him in their top 25, but there are only 25 spots and at a certain point you have to split hairs/minute differences.

@donnyzimbobwe3618

Жыл бұрын

Why Anthony Edwards then. Like I got respect for dude but I live in la got fam in sac. I watched him in “fox” in the playoffs, he was balling then and even later in the series with a broken finger. Like in what area do u have ANT over him. That’s my only glaring issue as a guy who played overseas, (not saying I ever could’ve gone league any dude in the NBA would cook me)😂 I’m measuring talent so what area does Edwards have him, i cannot think how he’s a better hooper in any way now that I’ve seen both of them live and on my tv so many times

@donnyzimbobwe3618

Жыл бұрын

@@HoopVenue I would really love to know your opinion, I apologize for saying that joke about not following the league I looked at ur channel I got respect you u n yo content, so I would actually appreciate your opinion my g

Sorry Jamal Murray's better than bam adebayo you say defensively but you Trippin

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

That’s fair, very hard to compare offensive players to defensive players!

@marc8317

Жыл бұрын

I feel that offensively Jamal is way better than bam and that the defensive impact from bam doesn’t outweigh Murray’s offensive. Even if Murray is considered“slight negative defensively”.

@danielepstein6611

Жыл бұрын

@@HoopVenuewouldn’t a good way of judging the gray areas be when they are facing each other in both regular season and playoffs(if applicable)

I like Harden but I think he’s rated too high, no way he was better than Anthony Edwards this season. If you put Harden in place of Edwards in MIN it would be a disaster

Jammal and Ant def higher

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Can definitely see that

antman is the best of these 5.

@orlando9103

Жыл бұрын

Cap

Jjj over ant is disrespectful

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

That’s fair, very difficult comparing an offense-centric player to one of the game’s best defenders.

@stevenwhiters8928

Жыл бұрын

@@HoopVenue ant has some obvious flaws but I value no 1 option over no 2/3 heavy. I also don’t think every elite scorer should be expected to be elite good playmaker … he’s more of a traditional sg not this high PNR iso the games been dumbed down to

@cookn6732

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenwhiters8928being an elite playmaker would make him much better tho he doesn’t have to be an elite playmaker but he would have a greater impact

In my opinion players like bam and jjj don’t move me enough on offense to be higher than a #1 option like Ant who relatively elevates his game in the playoffs. Tbh hardens playoff offense makes me like players like Haliburton,Siakam,or even Garland over him

surprised to see harden this low, thought he was a consensus top 12 offensive player

Tyler pascal higher

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

He just missed out, could definitely see him a few spots up.

Ant higher

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

More than fair, these guys have pretty wide ranges because of how many differences you have to nitpick.

@buckybadgerw3522

Жыл бұрын

@@HoopVenue Oh for sure. I guess it hinges a lot on how much value you put on the Denver series given how short it was

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

@@buckybadgerw3522 His process was great to me, really thought he cleared up a ton of question marks I had in his attack. Think the process matters a lot more than results, especially when talking about such a small sample size.

Ant is better than all 4 of those guys but I understand it needs to be more consistent and with a larger sample size

@nicholaskatsikas4904

Жыл бұрын

Ant is better than JJJ and Harden but it’s debatable if he’s better than Murray and Bam at this point in his career

Idk about Jamal being this high. I think he benefits a lot from playing next to Jokic. If we take Ant for example, Ant had a better regular szn and was really good in the playoffs without playing next to a elite first option like Jokic. Definitely think Ant was should be ranked higher than Murray.

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

That’s totally fair! I tried to look past Murray’s regular season for obvious reasons, but if you value that a bit more I’d probably agree.

@dabdab8585

Жыл бұрын

Jamal was lower volume and efficiency in the playoffs than Ant and Ant played better defense all while being the first option on his team. I get Ant getting taxed for playing much less games in the playoffs but he was just a lot more impressive imo

@fax2131

Жыл бұрын

This is actually not true at all. It's not like he gets a ton of wide open shoots. In fact, in the finals his one on one threat created much more open shoots for jokic than jokic's ones created for murray.

@NichowA

Жыл бұрын

@@dabdab8585 Jamal was more efficient than Ant in the Minnesota series... 27/6/6 for Murray on 47/43/91 shooting, vs. 32/5/5 on 48/35/85 for Ant.

@NichowA

Жыл бұрын

@@dabdab8585 Murray was also more efficient than Ant by overall playoff stats. 47/40/93 vs 48/35/85.

No Fox Thumbs down!!

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

He’s right there! Splitting hairs for those last few spots was nearly impossible

@ScottySkilz1

Жыл бұрын

@@HoopVenue i would take Fox mr.clutch over JJJ and harden in a heartbeat. im not just saying that because im a fan of the Kings either. i watch a lot of basketball and im sure you do too but, how many games have you actually watched of the Kings before they had that big win streak?

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

SAC was one of my favorite watches all season, love all of the offensive concepts and strategies they ran throughout the year. Also love so many things about Fox’s game, just think come playoff time when splitting hairs I very slightly preferred those 2.

What gaurds do you have in front of Murray that haven't won a championship? Murray is better than all but Curry, Luka and maybe Dame. He's beat them all but Curry, all. Booker, George, Mitchell, Ja, Fox, Thompson is on the down, Paul sucks, Kawhi hasn't even played. What other wings or gaurds ar higher than Murray? You have that many 4s and 5s ahead of him? Murray should be top 15. How is he worse than players and their team that he beat in the playoffs? Let's see who you got higher because so far lol.

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

I think you have to separate the individual from the team, it’s not fair to compare guys who have consistently been #1s on competitive teams to a guy playing next to one of the best players ever and boil it down to who’s team performed better. It’s fine to think Murray’s better, but it’s got to be for basketball reasons in my opinion, not just team success.

@ye.ha.8378

Жыл бұрын

booker outplayed this boy badly

@joshuavasquez1able

Жыл бұрын

@@ye.ha.8378 lol. You are stupid. Booker outplayed him so badly that he won the series? Lol. Booker is so highly overrated. Only retards and morons think he's good. Learn how you really play basketball. No flopping and crying to refs, no "cheating" by pushing off on drives and hooking. You sound stupid.

@joshuavasquez1able

Жыл бұрын

@@HoopVenue what's the goal in basketball if not to win. To fit within the team to create success for all involved. The greatest sacrifice and most successful form of individual accomplishment. He had great performances when needed and elevated his teammates, while having mild performances, who then had great performances. Your evaluation of "success" is flawed if you think team performance doesn't reflect selflessness. So if Murray to were to have 50 point games and they lose he would have been ranked higher. Because I guarantee that's what you are going to say about Dame, Booker, Luka or maybe Mitchell. Basketball is all about the team and how you can achieve the highest team success while fitting in the system to achieve that by possibility having great individual accolades due to your own individual success. That's how it should be evaluated at. Don't handicap Murray because he plays with the best player in world it's being dishonestl to Murray.

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

The objective of basketball is to win. But I think you can evaluate how much a player IMPACTS winning without actually looking at an end result to come to a conclusion. You’re suggesting that 15 or so other players COULDN’T fit next to Jokic within the Nuggets as a #2, BECAUSE they haven’t won anything as a #1. And I just think that’s unfair when applying the context of how situational the sport is.

Bam adebayo is not even top 50 player he is bum

ant easily above bam, harden and jackson lol...

Amazing analysis man🎉

@HoopVenue

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that!

@HoopEnthusiasts

Жыл бұрын

@@HoopVenue as a sixers fan who watches every game, harden passing is one dimensional in regards that he creates most of his playmaking behind screens which when zones is thrown at him he kind of zones in on one guy and turns it over or gets that pass through somehow 😂