Hey guys, while editing this video I found myself changing my mind on my Makhachev and Fedor pick. I think that given all of fedor’s 29 wins, even though he doesn’t have a win over a top 20 all time fighter, Makhachev hasn’t had enough of those rly good wins to triumph over Fedor yet.

@idkanymore1298

9 ай бұрын

Watch, olivera knocks islam out then volk and then he's n1 goat 😎

@alphared3772

9 ай бұрын

Also you didn't mention Forrest Griffin in Anderson's best wins. Guy was the 205 champ one fight ago and Anderson stomped him. Not sure if that affects his placement but it's definitely the best win of his career.

@youcantseeme2244

9 ай бұрын

That's fair. Islam definitely has the skills to be a top all time fighter tho. And if Charles beats him then he needs to be in the top 15.

@Johnny-ry9dq

9 ай бұрын

Silva beat forest griffin who became the 205 champ….

@afonsodealbuquerque1879

8 ай бұрын

Hughes did more than Usman, stop discrediting Bj penn, and also remenber Dan Henderson.

So happy your top 3 are Ian Garry, Sean O’Malley and Israel Adesanya

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@elangelyt7738

9 ай бұрын

😂

@904TYR

9 ай бұрын

I have a feeling I’m not gonna see this🤨

@Rob07544

9 ай бұрын

How did Anthony on paper smith miss out 👍

@enderhamblin3845

9 ай бұрын

kind of crazy parker porter is only at 4 but i will let it slide

Chael Sonnen. Undisputed, undefeated, unbeatable. Won ♾️ times. Never lost a round, never bled, never hit and never not the ufc GOAT.

@Niic208

9 ай бұрын

More like a feminine steroid loser who couldn't even go on a 7 fight win streak once in his life...I put Chael at tito Ortiz level

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

There are phases where certain jokes become old and cringe..... Your joke is in that phase

@lukapolic214

9 ай бұрын

@@flyingmonkeso true bro I was about to write the same thing this shit is so old

@LukosCelestou

9 ай бұрын

Gsp best of his era But not number two dj number two not one beacuse some of his fights weren’t the best and some of the fighters weren’t as good but cejudo and Benavidez thats good win John Dodson that’s a good win

@theactingace

9 ай бұрын

@@flyingmonke had to be done for the culture

So glad Parker Porter made the #1 spot. That kid doesn’t get the respect he deserves

@frags6940

9 ай бұрын

The rematch Jones and both Tafa brothers are running from.

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

Is Parker Porter your father? If not I see no relevance of mentioning him here

@forevermotyier

9 ай бұрын

​@@flyingmonkeur a casual

@_d2082

9 ай бұрын

okay dana

@_d2082

9 ай бұрын

​@@flyingmonkeare you dumb? or do you not watch MMA? prime PP destroys any other HW.

i have DJ at my number one -no peds -came back from a loss -champ in two weight divisions -champ under two completely different rule sets -has won a grand prix -is undersized and at a disadvantage in every fight -easily the most well rounded fighter of all time

@icecoldfire25

9 ай бұрын

Basically why dc is my #1. Guy has the height and reach of bumlal a welterweight but fought and dominated at lhw and hw only losing to the absolute best in their division. 🐐

@PercSlushy

9 ай бұрын

Based

@Alazerith

9 ай бұрын

His recent wins in One Championship over Adriano Moraes solidified his GOAT status in my opinion.

@typo9434

9 ай бұрын

His resume doesn't have the best name value but if we are talking about clean fighters then dj is no 1

@ProfessionalCurryDefender

9 ай бұрын

Jones clears. -Also a 2 division champ -Better competition -Most title defenses in ufc history -Most Title wins in ufc history -youngest champ ever -Is arguably undefeated if you think he edged out the Reyes fight -Longest Win streak in ufc history -Has never been finished

Lucas, respectfully, not putting ANY "All-Time" wins on Fedor's resume shows that you weren't alive or old enough to remember just how big his fights with Cro Cop and Big Nog were. Those were the biggest fights I can recall until Connor v. Khabib. They were that big. And they were only around 2-1 odds. Meaning those were pick-'em fights. Those two wins alone elevate him significantly.

@musicman7229

8 ай бұрын

100%. ngl this list was kinda shit lol

@clovers6690

8 ай бұрын

bro popularity of his fights is irrelevent

@sm6996.

7 ай бұрын

I think all time wins only count wins against other person on this list

@vascocarvalho2451

7 ай бұрын

The game changed immensely in the last 10-15 years. Fighters are so much better now, it's not even comparable. I understand snubbing the older fighters, especially if they weren't trailblazers in their fighting styles like Anderson Silva

@michaelturley8222

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, i think that was the biggest flaw with the list, he should've counted all time wins as guys in maybe top 50 all time, if it's top 15, it's hard to even have enough top 15 guys in your division and era, it's too difficult of criteria for most guys to have many, if any. @@sm6996.

Izzy has 16 fights in the ufc, he’s 13-3. 11 of those 16 fights were title fights islam has 2 title fights in the ufc and he’s ranked above Izzy

@rhyswilliam8146

9 ай бұрын

This exactly. I get Izzy is cringe and annoying but you have to respect what he has done. Not just blindly hate. And I’m GLAD Izzy lost too. But damn he is great.

@ZuuFo

9 ай бұрын

@@rhyswilliam8146I blame guru for it

@vanderleicyborg6809

9 ай бұрын

MW is trash thats why@@rhyswilliam8146

@brandonmoran3016

9 ай бұрын

yea i don’t like izzy but not having him on here is crazy

@rhyswilliam8146

9 ай бұрын

@@ZuuFo a tad bit here aswell. I enjoy most of gurus content but his hate towards Izzy is immeasurable at times.

fedor was undefeated for a decade as a HW, let that sink in. he was by far the best HW of his time, and a top5 all time greats

@razalfraz6618

8 ай бұрын

The Japanese needed a star and they made a star

@abmendi8676

8 ай бұрын

*In Japan

@uresfffff222

8 ай бұрын

Pride fc smh UFC >>>>

@user-vt3vo1yd3v

7 ай бұрын

Came to America and lost almost all his fights 😂. He’s a fake fighter than couldn’t compete against the actual top level. Just look at his opponents records. All of them sucked. Even the former/future champions he faced sucked. All have double digit loses. Your wins don’t matter if the people you beat also got beaten by 10 other people.

@kwalterrasquinha413

6 ай бұрын

he fought cans in that decade and his few good wins are nothing compared to stipe who should be top 5. Habib shouldnt even be top 10

I always thought Lucas's knowledge of MMA was only from 2021 onwards, he puting Islam above Fedor and Khabib above Silva solidified it

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

Khatib over Silva is bad but honestly.... Fedor is a plumber beater who refused to fight in the UFC out of fear.

@felipearaujo9673

9 ай бұрын

@@flyingmonke he feared what? Old man Couture? During his era, all the good HWs where in Pride. UFC had guys like Tim Sylvia and Arlovski, both guys he beat. He has like, 8 wins over UFC champions

@antoniokovac5170

9 ай бұрын

Silva is overrated as this video proved. I don't care how to look you look against the subpar competition. You say Khabib only has 3 good wins..well thats 3 more than Silva.

@ben9262

9 ай бұрын

@@antoniokovac5170Anderson Silva fought better wrestlers than Khabib ever dreamed of fighting. Khabib has 2 title defenses against journeyman strikers and his best win is Connor.

@gabrielmotta1663

9 ай бұрын

​@@antoniokovac5170khabib has a padded record, he shouldn't even be on the list

Every time i feel bad about my MMA knowledge i watch one of your video and your absolutely horrible takes instantly make me feel better about myself! Thank you for your work

@Jm29q

6 ай бұрын

He legitimately makes Schaub look decent.

The Adesanya hate is going too far 😭😭

@Justfranktbh

7 ай бұрын

Shit is crazy

@rastahill748

7 ай бұрын

why everyone started hated him all of a sudden

@Dfgdf91

7 ай бұрын

​@@rastahill748everyone just jumped on the sean bitchland bandwagon. But tbh i think izzy is a weirdo too

@rastahill748

7 ай бұрын

@@Dfgdf91 whats your reason??

@Dfgdf91

7 ай бұрын

@@rastahill748 my reason for thinking izzy is weird is that he humped paulo Costa. It was funny, but still weird

Ciryl Gane is an “okay” win, coming from the dude who was saying he was gonna destroy Jon jones lmao now it’s just an “okay” win

@anti4330

9 ай бұрын

Lol you see how they do

@ItsameAlex

3 ай бұрын

it's a great win. But steroids advantage was a big advantage.

@davidnighten5553

2 ай бұрын

He said that??

@DemonInPain

2 ай бұрын

@@ItsameAlexthat has nothing to do with the win you absolute 🤡

Lucas is really riding off the Izzy loss lol

@HipHop-wf2yu

9 ай бұрын

You’re literally talking about every single one lmao

@jujuthethird4602

8 ай бұрын

Best moment in the ufc

@michaelturley8222

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, not having him over Matt Hughes was crazy. I don't think you can really count beating GSP as an all time win because he was so young. Beating Whittaker in his prime twice is far more impressive to me. Beating Pereira is probably going to age extremely well too, because he's likely going to be a 2 division champ with a great win percentage if he doesn't retire too late.

Calling Fedor overrated is such a casual move

@ssglbc1875

2 ай бұрын

he is most goats are overated hate it or not especially fedor who's best wins don't compare too stipes especially because modern mma fighters are better nowadays.

@alejandrogarcia7385

2 ай бұрын

​@@ssglbc1875modern fighters fight one time at year, while Fedor fought in tournament matches, that is, more than one fight for day.

@joeswanson5486

Ай бұрын

@@alejandrogarcia7385Fedor fought twice a day only 2x his entire career. Against who? He’d fight Nogueira which is one of the greats at HW then after whooping his ass he’d fight some can you never heard of.

Including Cruz, Hughes and Usman but not Cejudo? Nah this ain't it

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

Also not including Israel

@thomaskia8441

8 ай бұрын

How is cejudo even top 25

@DADRB0B55

8 ай бұрын

Without the DJ robbery you wouldn’t even know he exists. At Flyweight he lost to Benavidez pretty clearly as well he wasn’t even the 2nd greatest flyweight

@elpolitemexa2272

8 ай бұрын

@@DADRB0B55 bruh that fight was close as hell

@Red-mc5ee

8 ай бұрын

@@thomaskia8441nigga he was double champ

That’s why Leon edwards has the most aesthetic physique

You forgot to include Dan Henderson among Anderson Silva's best wins.

@darkclaw1462

9 ай бұрын

He also left out the Iconic Forest Griffin KO, that was literally one of If not the biggest defining moment of Andersons career, probably 2nd behind his all-time great comeback of subbing Chael Sonnen via triangle choke.💀

@Alazerith

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for pointing that out.

@victorf6672

9 ай бұрын

He excluded Anderson's two best wins. Hendo and Griffin. Obviously Forrest wasn't an all time talent but he was LHW champ and he had just lost his belt. This is equivalent of Strickland losing his belt, having a weird "super-fight" with Leon Edwards right after and people not thinking a win for Edwards would be impressive as hell just because Sean wasn't the prime example of a MW champ.

@DADRB0B55

8 ай бұрын

Vitor Belfort was also a HW UFC & LHW UFC Champion, Anderson Silva’s resume aged better than GSP IMO, Cheal Sonnen could beat everyone at 185 right now, but Jale shields & Hughes wouldn’t even have a ranking

@captain_ali_01

8 ай бұрын

He also said Jones lost to Reyes..

Fedor’s wins over Cro Cop and Big Nog are more impressive than Islam’s wins over Volk and Olivera, especially considering he was the much bigger man against Volk

@davidsaji6101

9 ай бұрын

Their not on Olives or Volks level

@JesusGarcia-pz6vg

9 ай бұрын

OMG how was Islam SO MUCH bigger than volk??? he was 2 pounds heavier and had a 1 inch reach disadvantage. Height means shit when you don't have an edge in reach, weight or athletic

@thomaskia8441

8 ай бұрын

Crocop and big nog would f volk and oliverira up easily@@davidsaji6101

@jonyhyder6506

8 ай бұрын

shows how casual you are.volk was 2 pound heavier then islam in that fight.islam looked thin compared to volk.he had a bad weight cut.

@lel1433

8 ай бұрын

@@JesusGarcia-pz6vg yes, Islam that day could not rehydrate properly due to the lower hydration time available in australia. If Islam and volk fight in Abu Dhabi, its over for volk, as we know that he will be fuller.

You didn't include Anderson's two best wins. Dan Henderson imo could've made the list, he's about the same as Hughes for me, he was on his prime, the original champ champ beating a beastly Wanderlei Silva to win gold in pride at MW and LHW when he lost to Silva. Also, Forrest, now, looking back we all know Forrest wasn't the greatest champ ever but he had just lost the title in a division above Anderson's, and it was LHW so the jump from that division was 20 pounds. Let's say, hypothetically: Strickland loses his belt in his next fight, than does a weird superfight with Leon Edwards and Leon beats him. would you not consider that a good win for Leon? That would be a great win, even if in the future we look back and see that Sean wasn't the prime example of a middleweight champ. Also, it's difficult to have an all-time win when nobody can become an all-time fighter since you dominated the division for like 10 years, DJ's all time win only became all time after they fought, and personally, I think DJ won that fight, so had the scorecards gone differently he wouldn't have an "all-time win" even tho his record would've actually been better. And speaking of Fedor, I also think his wins over Big Nog was a bit underrated even if you praised it a lot, Big Nog was far from his prime and got interim gold, could've gotten undisputed if Brock hadn't cut the line.

@kaiquelittig4557

8 ай бұрын

Fucking facts

@rsg200

5 ай бұрын

That point about being too dominant to have all time wins is straight facts and its frustrating that 99 percent of the community don't understand. Dj didn't beat any champions because he was the champion. Other than Henry who he pretty much beat twice and then going to one fc. That's the goat

The thing about the best wins is you can only fight the people in front of you at the time. These older fighters can’t spawn in fighters out the lab. Anderson and Adeysanya particularly are the reason why most of the other guys aren’t all time greats. Also the sport has progressed but you can’t hold it against someone for being born when they were born. Fight the best available that’s all you can ask.

@certifiedredditgenius

9 ай бұрын

But we are looking at the best fighters of all time. So yes, the quality of competition does matter because to be the best, you have to beat the best.

@TheBlackKnightX7

9 ай бұрын

@@certifiedredditgenius that is true but that was the best. For that era that was the best there was so they did in fact beat the best. They beat the number 1 contender they beat the top 5 in the world at their weight class. They can’t time travel. Also again they are the reason there isn’t any other all-time greats in the weight class. Anderson never gave anyone else a chance to win a championship unless they went up in weight to avoid him.

@certifiedredditgenius

9 ай бұрын

@TheBlackKnightX7 I understand what you're saying but to find the best of ALL TIME, the modern Era fighters are the best there ever have been

@TheBlackKnightX7

9 ай бұрын

@@certifiedredditgenius well if that’s the case then there is no point to make a greatest of all time list. Just say who ever the current world champ or divisions current best fighter if they are the same person Is the greatest of all time then because fighters from the older generation wouldn’t have a chance. I personally think that is a not a fair system, But that just diminishes everything the pioneers of the sport did.

@certifiedredditgenius

9 ай бұрын

@TheBlackKnightX7 no it doesn't because it's fully expected that the fighters will only get better as the sport ages and grows. Besides, Jon Jones is from the old generation and all of the wins from the past are considered his greatest performances. But considering the skill of the contenders they beat is vital in determining who is the best fighter of all time

Fedor Jones and Anderson had a ridiculous finish rate during their prime, thats the only thing I'll hold against GSP.

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

GSP took the easy way out. His fights were boring but some how he was a PPV star because he has the entirety of Canada behind him.

@bigpapi6688

6 ай бұрын

@@flyingmonkedominating for five straight rounds is much harder than getting a flash ko in the early rounds, Wtf are you talking about💀 go find the best wrestler at your school and fight him for 25 straight minutes. I guarantee you’ll be much worse for wear than if he landed a shot on you and knocked you out within a few minutes. Getting drowned by someone with unlimited cardio is much scarier and more embarrassing than getting finished by someone

@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081

6 ай бұрын

Yeah that's got to count for a lot imo. I can't stand point fighters.

@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081

6 ай бұрын

@@flyingmonke When you hit a certain amount of years and fights undefeated streak, it stops mattering if you're a point fighter people will still tune in.

@7910norris

6 ай бұрын

@@bigpapi6688 Point fighting is the lowest risk way to win a fight, he was just a slightly better version of a prime Jon Fitch (and his personality is what made people love him, not his fights). You want people to think he's the GOAT because of his cardio? You post didn't make sense.

I feel like none of Silva's wins look as good because there are a couple people who we would consider legends, and champions, but they weren't because they ran into the wall of Anderson Silva. Like, if an entire division looks uncompetitive compared to the champion for that long, is it more likely that by chance nobody else who was good weighted 185 pounds, or that Silva was just that much better than everyone. This is the same thing people say about the grappling of people Khabib beat.

@victorf6672

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Jon also suffered with that in the latter half of his LHW reign. Glover for example, had it not been for his late push to UFC gold he would've been a forgotten Jon Jones defense even though he was one of the most impressive ones. This will happen to current champions too, in a few years people won't see Kamaru's opponents for example, in the same light as they do today, in a few years I doubt people will consider Burns as good a title defense as we now he is because we can see Burns fight live, in a few years they'll just see the wikipedia record.

@DADRB0B55

8 ай бұрын

Was he ? Glover also lost to Phil Davis & Corey Anderson. Those guys were cut from the UFC so if they were still signed post Jones Glover probably never becomes champion

@Nick_T_90

3 ай бұрын

Mighty Mouse for me is the biggest example of this because as much as Dana and the ufc deny it they wanted to scrap flyweight entirely but DJ was so good they couldn’t let him go and kept flyweight around

I don't think fedor falling off in his early 30s should really damage his argument in the goat list that much, sure age wise he's supposed to be in his prime but you have to take into consideration how much damage he accumulated in 10 years of fighting 30+ times, sometimes more than once a night against fully roided pride heavyweight, most of them are bigger than himself, and the likelihood that he himself took quite a lot of steroids to keep up with them, it'll take a toll in his body

@felipearaujo9673

8 ай бұрын

And I'm quite sure he was a Sambo champion too, so he was fighting outside of mma

@victorf6672

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, age is a dumb argument imo, DC was able to go until his 40s, but in part that's because he started his MMA journey in his 30s. It's more about number of fights than age imo.

@jaw9095

8 ай бұрын

Fedor has 8 wins vs ufc champions and his wins over cro cop and big nog were huge in that time. Lucas tracy misses alot and in this video he missed by alot

@Dempsey1873

5 ай бұрын

Fr that argument is stupid asf ngl

No Izzy in the top 15? First 2 time UFC MW champion with 5 successfull title defences, impressive wins over Robert Whittaker (1st time), Alex Pereira, Marvin Vettori (2nd time), Paulo Costa, Derek Brunson & Kelvin Gastelum. Just because he lost to Sean who was very underestimated before the fight doesn't mean he can't crack the Top 15.

@felipearaujo9673

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, even though we hate Izzy, he is definitely top 15 material. But no way Paulo Costa who struggled with a zombie Luke Rockhold and Marvin mediocre Vettori are “impressive”

@captain_ali_01

8 ай бұрын

dude is an adesanya hater. i was happy that sean won and was even rooting for him, but izzy is the 2nd best middleweight of time

@captain_ali_01

8 ай бұрын

the point is that he was better than almost everyone in the division for a long time@@felipearaujo9673

@luizperez3357

8 ай бұрын

PEDs same could be said for usman tho

@eddiealexander3736

8 ай бұрын

@@captain_ali_01ye but middleweight has always been one of the weak divisions

Fedor imo 🐐. Had like a 29 fight win streak. Beat UFC Champions. Was undersize could have fought at 205lb.

@theomasole5105

Ай бұрын

Against absolute cans though

I feel like Cejudo should’ve made the list. Two division champ and has wins over people like DJ, Cruz, Dillashaw and Moraes.

The problem with Lucas is when he says things like “we are counting robberies” but how are you gonna make exceptions like that, then not count Jon Jones win against DC cuz he popped even though we know for a fact Johnny Hendricks only won when he wasn’t natty and other not natty fighters

@Thot-StompaSigma

9 ай бұрын

As much as I like lucas hes inconsistent af. Goes from “on paper” to detailed analysis of the fight in a heartbeat

@ghoul5371

9 ай бұрын

Yea he falls where most people in this community do Biases after biases

@lunarmizt388

9 ай бұрын

People act like everyone is on roids. Yes Nate Diaz said that shit and everyone just ran with it. Everyone gotta stop acting like they’re all on roids. It was only a major problem back then.

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

He only counts robberies if it is from a fighter that he doesn't like Jones vs Reyes Izzy vs Rob 2 Those are robberies for him But when it comes to fight like Volk vs Max 2 or Khabib vs Tibau or GSP vs Hendricks where you could for sure argue that the guy that lost won There he ignores it

@isaiahmohi455

8 ай бұрын

@@STiergoofballif that’s the case then he’d be screaming that volk got robbed by islam

Dang, if Khabib Challenged GSP at Welterweight before retiring, that fight woulda raised tf out of their legacy (depending on the winner). If Khabib won, that would've been his best win no doubt, if GSP won(the likley outcome ), it would've had been more impressive than beating Bisping after 3 year layoff. Just saying khabib could've said "One more fight" after beating Gaethje

@Noles4life77

8 ай бұрын

Khabib would never fight GSP at welterweight. He has to be a weight bully, GSP at welterweight would be able to hold his own on the ground against Khabib and completely outclasses him in standup. When Khabib fought Tibou and he was no longer able to weight bully because Tibau is the biggest weight bully, he was 0-13 on takedowns and got taken down twice himself. And when his ground game wasn’t working he literally couldn’t do anything else in that fight. The most bagless fighter ever

@gaurav7142

8 ай бұрын

khabib knew gsp would destroy him at 170 so he made it clear a long time ago that gsp has to come down to 155 to fight him (even though we know khabib is a weight bully and would've easily made 185 let alone 170) even khabib's father said him to go up to 170 to fight gsp but he denied(because he didn't want to get exposed) (and there's a video that too) poor gsp(at 40)was even trying to cut weight to 155,there's even a picture of him where he looks skinny af but that fight could never happen and even if they fought at 155 gsp would easily outclass him(considering his striking/longer reach) but khabib retired before that fight could come close even now when gsp has called out khabib for a grappling match khabib does not want to come because he knows very well what will happen! gsp doesn't need any cage support to take khabib down and when he does take him down,we all know what's gonna happen and let's not even talk about striking khabib is great fighter but he does not stand a chance against the GOAT and khabib knows this very well

@thegoat-ishere4414

8 ай бұрын

Crazy I still think Khabib would beat an old GSP at 170

@Janintong

8 ай бұрын

@thegoat-ishere4414 GSP is a fighter that keeps his shape crisp, the exact opposite of nick diaz when returning to fight

@blackflag6976

7 ай бұрын

Khabib was the betting favorite against GSP

Fedor needs to be higher, a 10 year streak at the top of heavyweight is never heard of

Chael Sonnen as numbers 1-5 was a bold decision but I have to agree.

@w0t_m818

Ай бұрын

I mean his decisive victory over Fedor alone is enough to justify the top spot.

That Islam placement is crazy

@silentassassin423

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, I don't know how he is above Fedor. Islam beat 2 great fighters back to back but he became champ not long ago. It's too early. Like, imagine if Islam retires tomorrow, with 1 title defense, he wouldn't even sniff top 15.

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

@@silentassassin423 Fedor 😱 The plumbers nightmare Beats up on electricians and real estate agents but lost to Bader, Mitrione, Silva, Hendo and Werdum What a goat amirite

@flizzy4645

9 ай бұрын

Can tell he’s new to mma having him over cain is criminal

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

@@flyingmonke 8 guys he beat were former or future UFC champs So yeah I think that's a statement if we talk about how good he would've been there

@itsreihart9865

8 ай бұрын

Werdum is the greatest grappler in HW history, you act like Stipe didn’t lose to Struve or get outboxed by a one dimensional wrestler with T. rex arms

Makhachev above izzy😂😂I know you don’t like him but come on man

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

There's nothing wrong with that.... Izzy beats bums like Vettori while Makachev took out the two P4P kings Volk and Charles back to back

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

​@@flyingmonke Izzy doesn't deserve to be on the list for beating bums But Khabib is top 5?

@bboymuggshott

9 ай бұрын

@@flyingmonketook out?! Olivera for sure but he DID NOT take out Volk, hence why he walked over to his corner bloodied and defeated at the end of the fight saying “I want rematch”, while Volk held his hand in the air under belief that he had done enough to win the fight

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

@@bboymuggshott he beat that bald joke on the feet. Cry more

@nikolaj97

9 ай бұрын

So now oliveira is p4p king, but in other comment u said that his resume is trash lol, u are just a sad excuse for a troll, go back to ur basement@@flyingmonke

Give a toiletbrush a microphone, and he will think he is a mma expert.

Demetrious Johnson has 12 Title wins in the UFC. He won Flyweight Grand Prix Championship and 2 Title Wins against Adriano Moraes. I think Total Title Wins for him should be 15 or atleast 14 leaving out the Grand Prix one.

Bro really has Matt Serra over McGregor, Cejudo, and Oliveria..

@destano2951

9 ай бұрын

matt serra 😂

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

Unlike the bums you mentioned, Serra has actually beat a GOAT

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

Aldo doesn't count because he was mentally broken the bum

@dec6p

9 ай бұрын

​@@flyingmonke Cejudo has wins over way better opponents plus he beat DJ. So if the same logic applies here, Cejudo should be placed WAYYYY above Matt Serra.

@dec6p

9 ай бұрын

@@flyingmonke lol so you're just picking and choosing. He also beat Max Holloway who is ALSO on this list. lol

Casuals try not to ignore finishing percentage when considering the GOAT list challenge: IMPOSSINLE

i laughed out so loud when u said "where is izzy f off"hahahah love the content bro

How do you not have Big Nog as an all time win for Fedor? Arguably top 3 heavyweight all time. Or for that matter Josh Barnett. You clearly started having an interest in MMA around 2016 or something.

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

2016? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 2022 at best

Hard to find good alignment when it comes to mma opinions but I always agree for the most part with your coverage. Fire content as always I love how you almost sound angry bc you’re always so passionate 😂

“I know some people just had a heart attack” you’re damn right they did 😭🤡

Your list is pretty good and honest with it's picks. I think though, that you missed by not putting dan henderson and forrest griffin in the best wins of Anderson Silva. People trash Forrest, but he was indeed a champions in the weight class above and the performance by Silva is an all time great

@afonsodealbuquerque1879

9 ай бұрын

Dan Henderson was 22-5 while fighting the best middle weight, light heavyweight and even heavyweight fighters of his day, people today discredit too much the work of the old fighters.

@DrSpaceman69

9 ай бұрын

@@afonsodealbuquerque1879 truth

@DADRB0B55

8 ай бұрын

No one that got into mma recently (by recently I mean the last 6-7 years) will ever truly appreciate Hendo, he flatlined prime Fedor & was an Olympic level wrestler

@lucasdebrito23

8 ай бұрын

The list says ranks the MMA goats, but besides Fedor, he only considers UFC, basically. I understand this choice, considering that the UFC is the greatest compan, but, Hendo was a Pride champion and Vitor was an old school UFC champion. Even that they are not in Lucas top 15, they should be listed as all time wins

I thought I didn't know shit about the ufc but you reassure me some people know even less and still act like they know anything

This dudes videos are gold 💀 he spends like 90% of his time tryna convince invisible haters on opinions that aren’t even that outlandish 💀

This video should be titled I'm showing my ufc bias

Adesanya should be on this list . You’re crazy

@7910norris

9 ай бұрын

What? You serious or kidding.

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

​​@@7910norris We should ask that you 8 title fight wins First 2 time MW champ Most active champ You wanna say he is not top 15 just because of the Strickland loss now while there are guys on this list who have like twice as much losses as he has?

@-RJ2007

9 ай бұрын

@@STiergoofballstill he doesn’t really feel like he makes it . Cause start with 15th/14th place the first person you get is Max and Matt Hughes , and then boom already a hard decision , so him not being there is reasonable .im not even joking he might literally be 16th to 20th

@enragedbear

9 ай бұрын

@@STiergoofball LOL 2 time mw champ is not a good thing, he lost the belt to someone with 7 mma fights, he is NOT top 15

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

​@@enragedbear That guy that he lost it too was one of the best Kickboxers of all time who was better on the feet than ANY striker that the MW Goat Anderson Silva has ever faced What makes the 2x MW champ record for Izzy even more impressive is that he was the first one to ever get it Also something that a top 5 of all time Silva wasn't able to do

Fedor should be at least #5 or higher. In my opinion #1

@rileyfreeman9726

3 ай бұрын

Fedor at number 1 is absolute insanity. He would be lucky to even be top 10

Your content is spot on dude! It’s hilarious! Thanks!!

W rating of these fighters the most honest and non biased rating ive seen so far im sure a favourite lists would go very differently but this is exactly how it should be in my eyes

With Silva btw for me at least it’s not about who’s the superstar win he has. It’s more how he beat these guys and how long he was beating these guys in that style. Most of title wins are stoppages. Not izzy snore fest decision

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

Yeah but Izzy also has better striking competition ngl Name 1 guy that Silva defeated on the feet that is close to an Alex Pereira

@GuiMMA_MMA

9 ай бұрын

@@STiergoofball Izzy also lost to Sean Strickland and Jan Blachowicz on the feet. Honestly think Silva would destroy both

@xFalconn1

9 ай бұрын

@@STiergoofball his toughest striking competition was Strickland and Alex that’s literally it. Also Jan who outstruck on the feet, izzy is one dimensional in his striking, can’t adapt on the fly. I can’t lie a prime silva would be Adesnya worst nightmare.

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

@@GuiMMA_MMA You think But why? They are also very tough match ups that Silva never faced I also doubt that Silva would beat Pereira

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

@@xFalconn1 Actually Izzy is a bad match up for Silva But people are way too nostalgic about Silva and hate on Izzy way too much to give him chances or respect You forget Whittaker who is also a great striker And it's actually the opposite Silva was also a counter puncher but Izzy is way too patient to rush in and get countered like most other guy's who rushed in braindead against Silva Izzy would probably outpoint in if Silva wouldn't go aggressive himself Or if Silva would go aggressive, Izzy would probably counter him

oliveira is easily on the list,i dont get how people just shrug off the insane depth on his resume,its like they forget he had a good run at featherweight or something?holloway is also top 5

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

What insane depth? His best wins are Lee, a washed Tony, Bum IQ Chandler, Cry baby Poirier and Downs Tom Hardy Justin Gaethje

@rudi5139

9 ай бұрын

@@flyingmonke Cry baby Poirier smoked McGregor twice.

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

@@rudi5139 as if that's a great thing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@JonkinsThePimp

9 ай бұрын

@@flyingmonke no one else has 17 notible or better wins,the comment was about quantity not quality if you cant tell. you can pick apart resumes if you want,people hail jones as the goat but his resume quality is laughable compared to someone like volk's people pick and choose when they value longetivity

@GuiMMA_MMA

9 ай бұрын

Not to mentions all the records he holds. Oliveira is definitely top 15. Makhachev being in this list and not Oliveira is weird

Been waiting for this

Bro really didn't put Dan Henderson and Forrest Griffin as Silva's notable wins... 💀

Dan Henderson, Forrest Griffin, and Yushin Okami were solid wins as well for Anderson Silva

@itsreihart9865

8 ай бұрын

Super weird how he gave credit to DC when Hendo was washed & on a 3 fight losing streak, yet not Silva vs a prime Hendo ? Tracy is dumb af

I waited so long for this🎉🎉

Good job LucasTracy. You may be putting out the best MMA content right now. Keep it up.

Fedor vs Mousasi wasn't a real fight. Lucas just skimmed through Fedor's wikipedia page and thought they really fought lol

15 shouldve been Macgregor. Dude has a great resume and evolved the sport. Hughes was just a really solid wrestler who was right place, right time.

This is accurate bro Love your videos keep dropping fire Mane

Good video!

Dan Henderson is an all time win for Silva.

I don't mind Anderson not being on top 5 but what u said about him was crazy. He was dominant for a real long time, had wins at LHW division and if most of his title wins looks like he was beating a can is because back in the day he was one or maybe two steps ahead of the competition. Middleweight division never was stacked with talents like the LHW or Lightweight or Bantamweight division. But Anderson was so fuckin good he never have adversity a chance.

My favorite youtuber rn keep it up bossman

I like your honesty

Sorry Lucas, Fedor at 13 is such a terrible take its funny. You need to go watch some pride fights bro.

Makachev is not higher than Oliveira, just because he beat him doesn't mean that he's higher all all-time. Oliveira has 3 wins against top 10 lightweights of all time(Tont, Justin, Dustin) and Makachev has 2 wins only has good wins over charles and volk, everyone else was a can.

@e.a.poecrnimacak354

8 ай бұрын

Ok, but he beat Tony when he was past his prime, washed up, lost a fight before and all fights he had after it. When talking about wins over other other ATGs for ATG status of a fighter we should only consider wins over them in their prime. That would be similar to saying that Izzy beat Anderson Silva and that win should be counted as ATG win for him. Yes, Silva is ATG without a doubt, the GOAT of middleweight division but by the time he fought Izzy he was way past his prime. I think that any expert who knows how this things work would agree with me,yes a win is on Oliveira's resume but I doubt that someone will consider it worthy of ATG status in the future.

@Chille10

8 ай бұрын

Islam wooped the guy you're debating for to be put over him😂😂😂it doesn't get funnier than that

U the best lucas

I think ultimately it all depends on whether your definition of 'greatness' includes things like being a good ambassador for the sport, never getting popped for drugs, being a good sportsman and not acting unprofessional, being influential in the sports development etc. If it doesn't then it's Jones. But if you take the Muhammad Ali approach that greatness is more than just the sum of athletic achievements, it has to be GSP.

@MrFredstt

8 ай бұрын

Well if we take some of those things into account then you would have to include McGregor as well considering his contribution to the sport, popularity wise, was insane. No one brought in as many new fans to the sport like he did

@JT76912

8 ай бұрын

Lmao you can't compare Muhammad Ali and GSP. What has GSP done for the world on a global scale? Just because GSP was a nice guy doesn't make him the goat, especially when Jon Jones did everything GSP did but better.

Didn’t even include Silvia’s win over Dan Henderson?

@TheMonkeyButte

9 ай бұрын

And Forest Griffin

Fantastic

So glad my goat pessi was in the #1 spot for todays video, keep it up, with these amazing lists!

Loved seeing Anthony smith at number 1 GOAT😮‍💨😮‍💨

No izzy is crazy

Ngl this ranking is pretty solid

Casual energy to the fullest

How is Jon Fitch not on GSP best wins? 16 fight win streak, 8 fight win streak in the UFC. Crazy

@gabeanderson6594

8 ай бұрын

He probably doesn’t even remember when gsp was fighting 💀

@Etronoxz

2 ай бұрын

Well also didnt have griffin on silvas best wins either probably just bias to put makachev and volk higher on the list

I would personally have Makhachev tied with Oliveira in the same position, with Charles resume and Makhachevs ability to put a stamp on this man, the upcoming match-up decides who would take the spot for good.

Something that you didn’t take into consideration is the dominance that fighter showed in their win, if that would have had weighted more on how dominant the fighters were in their fights you would put people like khabib and Anderson higher.

U should do a best fights of all time tier list I think it would do well

I'd put Cejudo in there. He beat Mighty Mouse who imo is the goat. Ik that fight could've gone either way but still that was one of the highest level fights of all time. If DC is there than Cejudo should be. They had similar careers but Cejduo did win the gold medal, he did become a double champ and he beat Cruz who is another guy on this list.

1.Jones (Beat everyone) 2.GSP (Beat everyone and great ambassador) 3.Cormier (2 weight division champ who started mma in late 20s) 4.Silva (Entertainer who held belt for 5+ years 5.Adesanya (6 Title defenses over like 3 years) 5.Volk (Smoking Max 3 times) 6.Aldo (2nd best featherweight) 7.Stipe (Best Heavy Weight) 8.Usman (Dominating Reign over beast) 9.Fedor (Greatest to never touch the UFC) 10.Khabib (good run but won title facing #10 Al Aquinta also rarely fought through out his career)

@destano2951

8 ай бұрын

get adesanya out the top 5 freak

@allen62

8 ай бұрын

@@destano2951 he definitely touched his dog but let’s not forget about the activity with the defenses

@paweljel5608

8 ай бұрын

solid list but you forgot about Demetrious Johnson

@allen62

8 ай бұрын

@@paweljel5608 I didn’t put him because Dana traded him. He’s definitely up their though

Ooooo you don't understand how much of a monster he was in the 90's Lucas 😮

Lucas you are very smart I subber

The site fightmatrix has a points-based methodology, similar to Elo, where the points you get are based on the points of who you fight, which is the most objective way of doing it. All-time MMA fighters according to their calculation is: 1. 36k GSP (repeatedly beat two high-point fighters of BJ Penn and Matt Hughes) 2. 33k JBJ (only repeatedly beat one high-point fighter of DC) 3. 24k Aldo 4. 22k Fedor 5. 21k Anderson Silva (imo this is the only true Great fighter MMA has seen so far of someone who bends the game) 6. 20k Matt Hughes (a lot of people sleep on his record, at one point he was 41 wins - 4 losses) 7. 16k Volk 8. 14k Mighty Mouse 9. 13k Holloway 10. 13k BJ Penn 11. 12k Usman 12. 12k Khabib 13. 12k DC 14. 11k Dan Henderson 15. 11k Adesanya 16. 11k Miocic 17. 11k Antonio Nogueira 18. 10k Couture 19. 10k Frankie Edgar 20. 9k Urijah

@mikedeakin3280

8 ай бұрын

wow no dominick is surprising icl

@keion_arknights

5 ай бұрын

Interesting af. I feel like this might underrate lower weightclasses which are more skilled and competitive. Like it's really hard for a dominant lw or bw champ to crop up. And I'm curious how it ranks farming bums, since Khabib's career has a lot of that mixed in with really sick competition, and I know Jones's opponents win rates aren't far from Khabib's overall.

@nd15music73

5 ай бұрын

@@keion_arknights It's similar to Elo system (used in Chess or some ranked video games) of points gained depends on points of who you beat, and that can be a chain going 30 years back to two obscure nobodies fighting. It's rather the other way around where if your division is bums then hard to get big points, similarly could be bias of not connecting to legacy chains of points. Another thing is that two high ranked fighters having a trilogy could inflate their points. But I'm not sure of algorithm, I think it's posted somewhere on site. Main thing is that such systems, and that site, are trying to make accurate predictions on who would win. Elo is highly accurate in Chess, or Starcraft or Age of Empires 2, but it requires the players to have hundreds of matches. MMA has a very low number of matches and so if you simply apply Elo or something like it then it has so little matches to work with. Plus it's rapidly advancing sport and a fighter can evolve loads between 2 fights.

Cejudo should be on this list imo

Este es el mejor top que he visto la verdad en mucho tiempo.

What’s crazy about DJ is that he’s also now winning within a new rule set, that’s meant to mitigate his biggest advantage which is wrestling. Also, how are you just gonna leave off Forrest and Hendo v Silva??

Having islam on there but not charles or adesanya is actually crazy

@flyingmonke

9 ай бұрын

Islam has beat the P4P kings Charles and Volk back to back he deserves a place. Charles' best wins are Poirier and Gaethje (two good fighters who will never be champs) I'm not counting that oldhead Beniel. Adesanyas only impressive wins are Whittaker and Pereira (3-1) so he don't deserve a place on this list either

@enragedbear

9 ай бұрын

izzy lost the belt to someone with 7 mma fights

@Anonkid

9 ай бұрын

@@enragedbearHe was also a 2 weight glory champion and a death touch…

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

​@@flyingmonke Why should two losses in Kickboxing matter in a MMA GOAT LIST you clown?🤨

Just a quick correction: Khabib only lost 2 rounds not 6. Volk is the one who lost 6, both are great fighters

@omarkhan9646

8 ай бұрын

And both of those rounds were very close - could have gone either way.

@QuadLamb

7 ай бұрын

@@omarkhan9646no one with a working brain would score round 3 for khabib. Conor didn’t dominate the round, but Khabib simply did nothing that round. You’d have to argue that holding conor against the fence and having octagon control won khabib the round, which is a shit argument when conor outstruck by over 2x.

@Tictac_7

4 ай бұрын

Khabib above Volk any day

Better than most channels - at least you're getting a person's honest and personal opinion. If I decide to undergo your training regiment (the one at the end of the video) how much anabolic steroids are involved?

i re upped my membership just for this comedy

Silva at 7 is one of the most casual takes I’ve ever seen

@joeltaylorthethird5443

9 ай бұрын

G For real top 4 at least

@theefamgod

9 ай бұрын

Facts

@That-One-Spy-Main

4 ай бұрын

​@@joeltaylorthethird5443 Never

And how is Izzy not here at all what makes kamaru top 15 but Izzy can’t make it their careers aren’t far apart

@cryptedanimations6509

8 ай бұрын

Probably cause his grappling is weak. To be a goat you gotta be good everywhere like John Jones. This is not kickboxing.

@andregardiner3071

8 ай бұрын

@@cryptedanimations6509 lmao khabib isn’t well rounded either that’s a dumb point this isn’t about being a goat it’s a top 15 all time list

@cryptedanimations6509

8 ай бұрын

@@andregardiner3071 you’re wrong about khabib, he is well rounded. Just because his striking isn’t flashy doesn’t mean it ain’t good. Just look what he did to Edson Barbosa. Had him back peddling like there was a gator in the pond.

@bmmjg

8 ай бұрын

@@cryptedanimations6509purely because of the takedown threat, his boxing particularly the head movement is awful. he's got a crazy chin tho

@cryptedanimations6509

8 ай бұрын

@@bmmjg like I said before it’s ugly but it works, he outboxed mcgreggor

You just know he was waiting for an izzy loss to post this video without izzy in it

Serious question, is there a way to make his videos come up in my results? Like mute his account entirely?

Lotta people keep overrating gsp and his 2 division champ status,he cherry picked washed one eyed bisping who almost lost to unranked 50 yo hendo

@GeneralXal

9 ай бұрын

GSP could’ve possibly been on gear. Bro was built like Usman and had more cardio than most people on roids.

@Random-ql6rr

9 ай бұрын

no one even knew he had one eye lol, bisping was a killer anyway you look at it and had a significant size advantage

@vasilijevukovic6946

9 ай бұрын

@@GeneralXal yea thats why i think,gsp was on juice 100%,look how he started to decline after usada came to the ufc

@vasilijevukovic6946

9 ай бұрын

@@Random-ql6rr but he had one eye, bisping is a worst champ,he had slight advantage but he was still washed and cherry picked

@destano2951

9 ай бұрын

better than no grappling non champ gane

Isreal should have been in that 15th spot. But your biased I get it 🤦🏽‍♂️smh

Love your channel, but gotta disagree with not having adesanya on this. Izzy beat silva, right..? Also, you completely discredited Silva. He beat everyone he was given during his prime and had a couple of boring fights. Holding a ufc title for the time that he did should get him entry into the top 5.

@eddiealexander3736

8 ай бұрын

Izzy beat silva when silva was like 42

You should do another list of the most likable or most influential fighters

So you’re saying Anderson silvas wins are better than Izzy’s wins? Costa, Whittaker x2, cannonier, Romero, Alex peirera? Sorry but Izzy has better wins than silva, I know u don’t like Izzy but just give him props

@squillfancyson2714

9 ай бұрын

Silva finished everyone he fought. Izzy arguably lost to cannonier and whittiker in the second fight. Vettori isn’t good. Izzy finished less than half of his opponents. Silva finished almost all of them

@Triumphantchild

9 ай бұрын

Silva had a 16 fight win streak, went up to 205 and destroyed top contenders, and almost every single one of his wins were finishes. He’s definitely higher on the GOAT list than Izzy.

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

@@squillfancyson2714 Arguably lost to Cannonier? Wtf

@STiergoofball

9 ай бұрын

@@Triumphantchild Higher than Izzy? Yes Should Izzy be on the list tho? For sure, between 8 - 12

@Triumphantchild

9 ай бұрын

@@STiergoofball I agree with Izzy being in the top 15, but not in the top 10 (at least not yet).

Where is Islam now 🌚