“Miya doesn’t have results”. Won a super major, and Major last week from months apart from each other

@android4754

3 ай бұрын

This was recording before the major win, but Miya and Hurt should both be higher honestly.

@marcosalvarezmorga6378

3 ай бұрын

Has to be a mayor where averybody is on noto ly japan

@SeriousStriker

3 ай бұрын

@@marcosalvarezmorga6378 Japan is the strongest region, winning a major over there is just as important as winning a major in NA. Also learn to spell.

@squid_sama9318

3 ай бұрын

@@SeriousStrikerarguably more important winning a JP major because as you said they are stronger

@npclucario7005

3 ай бұрын

Imma be real, miya didn't play anyone who is a threat to him, Japan is notoriously awful at beating their top 2

Vibe based list 8:18 "It isn't about feelings, it's about results" I blame chat

3:43-3:46 I’ve never heard this voice from HBOX ever

i live in shaddics region, and seeing him come this far is absolutely absurd to me, that kid is something else

@jesusolivarez7606

3 ай бұрын

Cuh alert

I remember as a TO I was asked to make a player ranking for my circuit. And so, as an accountant, I did the logical thing. I make a power ranking based SOLELY on the stats of tournament placement. Not results over friendlies, not results of RRs, not results of grudge matches, not results of other peoples tournaments 1, 2, 9 cities over, or states over, or countries. Just our local tournament results in my circuit. Very simple, straight forward, simple, logical. And every competitor and their mom came out to argue why one player was higher than the other because they beat the x in bracket, but never fought them again and that x player then won the tournament boosting their PR but blah blah blah And when I said "Yeah idc about that. I'm not using additional variables for this. Its tournament placement only." The nightmare that ensued, my lord. Needless to say I did not make PRs much longer. TOing smash might have been the worst couple years of my life honestly.

@TwinHacari

3 ай бұрын

Welcome to reality. Can't make an algorithm that easily. Since this is a human game

@charlesedwinbooks

3 ай бұрын

@TwinHacari yeah no people WANT to make it hyper complex. But it really isn't. Welcome to stats I guess lol

@tiposauce6417

3 ай бұрын

Sucks shit people don’t understand how much TO’s have to break their backs to make sure the tournament runs smoothly

@charlesedwinbooks

3 ай бұрын

@tiposauce6417 seriously I had a local internet company sponsoring us with 2 set ups for fiber, and rock star energy who came every month with free energy drinks and swag for people. We ended up losing the rock star sponsor because they saw a few melee players being hyper toxic. I banned them of course but damage was already done.

@nathanlevesque7812

3 ай бұрын

RRs?

I just feel like Acola shouldn't be #1 when he's entered like 3 events so far compared to basically everyone else's 10+

@SeriousStriker

3 ай бұрын

Sonix has only entered 2 tournaments.

@nonomen6665

3 ай бұрын

@@SeriousStriker Yeah, but Sonix wasn't ranked #1.

@JonathanRodriguez-cl8gq

3 ай бұрын

Spargo and Sonix are the best players in the world.

@firewall5189

3 ай бұрын

agreed 100%, though honestly i get where hbox is coming from here: japan is STACKED beyond belief so winning multiple majors there means a ton.

@zavillion893

3 ай бұрын

@@nonomen6665 yeah but acola also just hasnt lost yet

0:59 Sonix deserves to be dropped 3 spots by default just because that clip exists lmfao

Watching this live after an hbox BEER ONLY dinner was hilarious

The thing about this is that it could be COMPLETLY different in a matter of weeks

You know the vibes/'results

"Acola has won every event he's attended this year." Yep, he has. All 2 of them. Not diminishing his accomplishment of winning Umebura bc it was huge/stacked, but Sparg0 has entered 7 events, all majors/super majors, and has top 3'd at all of them. Not a spotless record, but he's entering more events and made grands in all but 2. He's consistent, he's grinding, and he's showing up more than acola at the moment. Hoping he can finish the first half strong and finally get the #1 placement he's been at the level to achieve for years.

@firewall5189

3 ай бұрын

fr sparg0 has consistently been mr. number 2 for way too long lol. first leo's era of dominance, then there was a short period of time where either tweek or sparg0 were thought to potentially take the title, then acola came outta nowhere and made sure nobody so much as looked the wrong way at his #1 spot for what feels like years.

Hungrybox: This is a tier list going off of vibes Also Hungrybox, at the end of the video: This isn’t about feelings. It’s about results.

If you ding Miya for results then I think you should ding Sonix too. At least Miya has won events this year

@user-be3qc7re9o

3 ай бұрын

This was made BEFORE Miya won his Majors.

@daimajin266

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-be3qc7re9ofalse, this was made before he won sumabato 46 but Delta 7 and Kowloon still in december and january respectively

I'm shitting myself in a few mins

@firewall5189

3 ай бұрын

howd it go

@teatimeboy3240

3 ай бұрын

@@firewall5189 massive

@meee_5155

3 ай бұрын

Well? The people demand an update!!

@friendlyolbum

3 ай бұрын

5 hours no update. I assume the worst. Rest in peace king 🙏

@meee_5155

3 ай бұрын

@@friendlyolbum :(

Tweek is my favorite, but hes struggling in the steve meta.

Glad to see leo is still top 10 : )

woah

ima predict tweek ,zomba,mkleo uhh yeu

As a Frenchman I hate to say it but Gluto isn't indeed top 10 atm, and likely won't be until he adapts to his switch of controller, which will probably take some time.

It's sad that this community bullies top players like Sonix and Acola just because of the character they play.

Is Riddles at 11/12 or am I hyping him too much?

@donalddump7676

3 ай бұрын

i think that’s valid

@SeriousStriker

3 ай бұрын

He's only top 8'd one major and his only good wins are Leo and Neo. Looking at the actual stats, he's not even top 20 rn even if he's top 10 "skill wise".

@daimajin266

3 ай бұрын

​@@SeriousStrikerhe is def top 20 rn what

@SeriousStriker

3 ай бұрын

@@daimajin266 Top 20 is pretty stacked in competiton right now. Outside the top 10 there's players like Doramigi, Shuton, Yaura, Asimo, MuteAce, Onin, Raru, Maister, Tea, KEN, Neo and Riddles. All of them are candidates for top 20 but not all of them will make top 20.

@daimajin266

3 ай бұрын

@@SeriousStriker tea? Be serious

vibe based and goes and puts acola at n 1, wtf

where is glutonny

Glutony ???😊

@SeriousStriker

3 ай бұрын

He has not been doing good this season.

Riddles fans, we didn’t make it… Yet

If it’s vibe based, then why are you going by results?

@firewall5189

3 ай бұрын

his vibes are based on results didnt you watch the video 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

Nobody would have an issue with acola if he wasn't a hard camper yet alone a campy Steve. I would absolutely cheer for sonix before acola's steve

@nellio3981

3 ай бұрын

Sonix isn't even that bad compared to other sonic players

@SaltyToad00

3 ай бұрын

If you're beefing with someone because they play a certain character in a game, you have serious issues.

@RichieRage

3 ай бұрын

@@SaltyToad00 I have no problem, I simply just don't tune in, or subscribe, or buy merch, I'll just watch the vods. If it's a long campy match I'll skip to the last round. It financially hurts the community but I won't waste my time with it. Money drives communities and I won't spend a dime on something I find boring. He can do whatever he wants, I just won't use my wallet to support it. It's that simple

@SaltyToad00

3 ай бұрын

​@RichieRage Hey, I respect that. You're already more mature than 80% of this community.

now do melee

Tweek should be at least 5th.

aCoLa CaRrIeD bY StEvE 🤓

@RythmicROFL

3 ай бұрын

He has the knowledge and fundies needed for all players of any character, that’s why he’s #1

@mydude7876

3 ай бұрын

@@RythmicROFL then why can’t he win anything with the Luigi/DK he was playing before Steve? 💀💀💀

@hudberwafdog

3 ай бұрын

@@mydude7876 I mean I’m not one to defense a Steve player but Luigi and DK are just worse characters.

Sonix is a cool guy

@zekenotech

3 ай бұрын

Lmao no he isnt cmon now

@firewall5189

3 ай бұрын

meh i still have a problem with him being a bit of a salt lord if we're talkin personalities only

@RythmicROFL

3 ай бұрын

One of the chillest in the game

@meee_5155

3 ай бұрын

@@zekenotechhe literally is tho

@SeriousStriker

3 ай бұрын

@@zekenotech He might play lame but if you tune into his streams or his guest appearances in Light's Out as a person he's fine.

BEATYYYYYYY

I hate to say it but gluto fell off

@0airmax082

3 ай бұрын

It's not the whole reason but he fell off a bit because of recent controller changes (gamecube controller was hurting him for few years so he tries another)

"ermagerd CHAT STOP HAVING OPINIONS UGH JUST AGREE WITH ME"

I haven’t kept up with smash for like 9 months and I come back to see MkLeo in 10th man what happend😭😭😭

@Rickygnw

3 ай бұрын

The game and techniques keep evolving 😎

Mia just won one

275 views 6 mins ago bro fell off 😔

flat gang will be avenged

#1=Dabuz

ayo why he say mkleo like that

@gunkman_man

3 ай бұрын

emmm Kaee Layyyy ó! 😫

I'm just here to watch Hbox argue with his Chat. Plot twist, i'm in his chat.

nobody can stop acola

@foxshinehiyaa3933

3 ай бұрын

School :

@randomcow3710

3 ай бұрын

Except Sparg0

@jannomeeuwessen4886

3 ай бұрын

And Muteace

@jannomeeuwessen4886

3 ай бұрын

And Mi-Ya

@firewall5189

3 ай бұрын

kid named sparg0, sonix, or miya:

Miya has won two majors and came second at two, and yet Hbox puts a player who hasn't won a single major this year higher than him lol.

@SeriousStriker

3 ай бұрын

Sonix hasn't gotten worse then 2nd place at P and S+ tier tournaments. That consistency is fucking insane and makes him easy top 3-5 in the world.

@Sacred_Fox

3 ай бұрын

@@SeriousStriker he got 25th at smash con last year. So much for consistency.

@SeriousStriker

3 ай бұрын

@@Sacred_Fox That's one bad placement in like 8-9 months and since then he hasn't gotten worse then 2nd. Stop being dumb.

@Sacred_Fox

3 ай бұрын

@@SeriousStriker being dumb? Miya hasn't gotten a below 20th placing since February of 2023. How about you actually look at results before writing comments? Could do you some good for a change.

@SeriousStriker

3 ай бұрын

@@Sacred_Fox Sonix was ranked higher last year anyway at #3 instead of #4. And just because Sonix got one 25th so long ago doesn't mean much when he's making grands at everything. Miya has not been making Grand Finals at everything, especially not this year, which is what the conversation is about.

HBox is top 10 smh

Four horsemen 😂

Sonix number 1 easy. no glaze

@Sidewaysarsecrack

3 ай бұрын

The pfp kinda tells me glaze

@SeriousStriker

3 ай бұрын

There is certainly no bias going off of your profile pic or anything...

@attaboytom

3 ай бұрын

@@SeriousStriker ong brother

@NuppyZ

3 ай бұрын

Glazin

@attaboytom

3 ай бұрын

@@NuppyZ damn

Steve main yikes 😬

@nikkobird590

3 ай бұрын

???

Big goatcola makes the spargito fans hurt. Heavy hearted bair boys tears Delicious! Umai!

@firewall5189

3 ай бұрын

jesse wtf are you talking about

If we stopped being cowards and just banned Steve, you could justify having Acola as number 1 but comparing people with international results and stats to someone who’s only competing in Japan is pretty biased even with his P tier win

@SaltyToad00

3 ай бұрын

Who cares what character he plays? That doesn't mean he's not skilled at the game.

@mydude7876

3 ай бұрын

@@SaltyToad00 then why wasn’t he getting the same results with Luigi and DK if he’s so good at the game? Almost like when you play the banworthy character it’ll carry mid players or something

@SaltyToad00

3 ай бұрын

​​@@mydude7876 OK, so according to your logic, I could be the next pro Smash player if I pick up Steve? I find that very hard to believe. Sounds to me like you just mad he's better at the game than both you and I are.

@nikkobird590

3 ай бұрын

There is no reason to ban Steve. Ain't nobody else doing good except acola The only exception for a Steve ban would be online play because it is really bad.

@SaltyToad00

3 ай бұрын

​@@nikkobird590 And that's not even because Steve is broken. It's because Smash Ultimate has some of the worst online of any fighting game.

Acola mains Steve 💀 And what about a tier list for online players separate from offline? At the end of the day it’s a fair tier list and my opinion has been spoken. Good video HBox hope you have a good rest of your day

@nikkobird590

3 ай бұрын

Bruh why tf online players matter lol. Ain't nobody doing online tournaments🤣

@nikkobird590

3 ай бұрын

@@24rezimodnaR since when?

@SeriousStriker

3 ай бұрын

Rankings don't lower players based on their mains, and offline is more important then online, though I do think online is a great way to improve if you know what you're doing, as seen from players like Sparg0 and Sonix.

@NaughtyPigMario

3 ай бұрын

r u fucking calling acola not an offline player??

@24rezimodnaR

3 ай бұрын

@@NaughtyPigMario no. I never said that. Chill please 🙏🏻

Why did i see in chat that some dumbass in chat still fucking believe that Miya said "NA is free" when it's a damn rumour conspiracy spreaded from haters to make him look bad ☠️💀

literally the first time im hearing of hurt

At majors (so King of Bombs not included) so far this year, Shadic's average placement is 4.4

leo fell off lol

Zomba#1 because I play rob also Zachary 2

why is he so angry 😂

@NaughtyPigMario

3 ай бұрын

cuz the community is shit and toxic that's why