Taking the swashbuckler with either a 1, 3, or 5 lvl dip into hexblade is phenomenal. You get a ton for each pairing and very minimal drawback. If you take a 1 level dip you get: 1) you can use your charisma modifier for your weapon instead of your dexterity allowing you to take advantage of using your charisma for your Initiative roll and still use your sneak attack. And you can focus on dex 2nd without too much of a hit because you get 2)medium armor profisciency. Allowing you to get a 16 in AC without having to max it out 3)hexblade's curse which allows you to get your profisciency modifier on attacks vs that target as well as expand your crit on that target to 19 and even give you a small heal when they die 4)access to the warlock level 1 spells. You get hex which adds a damage dice to your attacks with a weapon. It might not be much, but hexblade's curse isnt concentration so you can throw both on 1 target to add more dice for your crits and weapons in general. 5)cantrips. You get warlock cantrips which gives you eldritch blast, sure. Or you can take something good like booming blade. You can use booming blade for your regular attack and still get sneak attack damage then you can run off and bonus action hide. Then as someone passes you, you can pop out and if you take the war caster feat, you can booming blade again as well as sneak attack. And cantrips scale with character level. And you can get a utility one like mage hand or minor illusion. 6) because you still get to level 19 in rogue, you get all your sneak attack die AND you get to avoid the awful capstone feature at 20. With a 3 point dip, you get all that plus: 1) pact of the blade which lets your weapon damage count as magical to overcome resistance as well as opens up 2) improved pact weapon which gives your weapon a +1, makes it your weapon a spell focus, AND let's you use a ranged weapon and keep all these bonus if that is what you prefer 3) opens you up to level 2 spells which gives you the super combo of taking devils sight as your other invocation and using it with the darkness spell to always have advantage and give disadvantage. 4) let's you still have 17 levels in rogue and still get 9 d6 of your sneak attack dice and also get all your subclass features. A 5 level dip gets you: 1)a 3rd invocation allowing you to take eldritch smite. Since you dont need the 2and attack because you can only use your sneak attack once and you can't use 2 attacks if you use booming blade for your attack anyway, so instead you can take eldritch smite. With your spell slots now at level 3 which means you can add 4d8 to your attacks. You still only have 2 spell slots, so if you use darkness you can only do it once, but if you take drow half elf, you get it for free once a day giving you 2 chances to use it. And if you save it for a crit, oh boy. 2) you get to level 15 as rogue meaning that you can still get 8d6 on your sneak attacks. So you're trading 2d6 for 4d8 BUT only on 2 attacks per short rest. But your booming blade will keep scaling up to 7d8. My favorite I'd the 3 level dip.

I always considered assassin the weakest rogue... it throws all of its eggs in a single basket, and that basket (ambushes) doesn't happen that often in regular play. A subclass that asks the entire party to change playstyle to be effective is not what I would consider a strong subclass.

@Booklat1

3 жыл бұрын

It’s pretty strong at lvl 3 but its next two features are so weak at anything but one very specific type of ambush Couldn’t agree more

@MFinGonzo

3 жыл бұрын

Your party can bumble around without you exposing yourself. In fact if you were smart the party failing their stealth checks can make it easier for you to sneak up on people if you use them as a distraction

@graveyardshift2100

3 жыл бұрын

If people weren't so afraid to split the party then it would get more use, because out of all of them the assassin is the rogue most meant to do exactly that. However it does it definitely would fit better in a more city based campaign that has you work over long periods of time, not the normal dungeon crawling adventure style of game.

@wreckedgamerqq5001

3 жыл бұрын

Assassin is the weakest. It has to get surprise to even utilize it’s main feature which surprise seems to occur less often than not.

@graveyardshift2100

3 жыл бұрын

@@wreckedgamerqq5001 surprise really isn't that difficult for a stealth character to get. There's even the skulker feat to let you literally hide in nothing but a shadow, so you could get right up next to a target without being seen. Not to mention the many ways to gain some magical buff for stealthing. The problem in this case isn't the mechanics, it's people not letting the stealth killer do what it is built for. "Don't split the party" they cry while they are all either low dex, not proficient, have disadvantage, or most likely all three.

I never realised how powerful the arcane trickster was until you pointed it out. Keep up the great videos !

@Jetpack7

3 жыл бұрын

It's a rogue that removes half the risks of playing a rogue. Super powerful indeed!

Thanks JetPack7 for the good overview on all the subclasses. I would of liked if you did a deeper dive by mentioning feats more too. Guess this could be another video 😅

My favorite it swashbuckler. He makes the rogue easier to play and makes it the best choice if you party is full of casters, like mine. At least I get why you like Scout and Arcane Truster more.

@jacopogenovese4728

3 жыл бұрын

Rogue is a very powerful class even before the subclasses, and most of the subclasses are great!

@Jetpack7

3 жыл бұрын

I played a Swashbuckler for several months and had a helluva time. They're incredible.

I will say. if you got the feat for med kits as a thief rogue, you can heal allies as a bonus action. granted you need a feat for this and you cant heal that same ally this way again until a long rest. but its a good pick me up and medkits are cheap.

@itspabbs

3 жыл бұрын

Healer feat on a Thief is S Tier. You pop a downed ally up and then can immediately sneak attack the baddie standing over them. Fun stuff.

Pre-watch guess: 1. Arcane Trickster 2. Swashbuckler 3. Assassin 4. Scout 5. Inquisitive 6. Mastermind 7. Thief Results: 7. Thief 6. Inquisitive 5. Mastermind 4. Assassin 3. Swashbuckler 2. Scout 1. Arcane Trickster

Wow this channel should have way more subs

Stand firm with your convictions... it's why I subbed. . Cool vids. Have you thought of putting graphics of key info you talk about

Nice new room my guy

quick bit of info, moving at normal movement gives you disadvantage on stealth checks, to avoid this you have to move at half speed, so it is upgrading the regular stealth speed to adv. While full movement is still dis adv.

This must've changed with Tasha's lol

Another great video, and loving the temp new room! The Great Wave off Kanagawa is a nice touch and it's good to see you're still bringing the same level of enthusiasm and energy as ever. I have a quick little request if you're taking them: Would you be able to somehow post the actual ordered list for these ranking videos somewhere? I know the fear is that it'll accidentally be spoiled for some viewers before the video starts, but maybe you could include it somewhere in the comments below the Read More function, or as an endcard at the conclusion of the video. The videos are a good length but I tend to lose track of what went where by the time the list ends since I usually listen to these in the background.

@Jetpack7

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Gotta have my great wave in the back :) Maybe I can add a little list to the video itself so people can keep track more easily! I'll give this some thought! Thanks for the comment!

@christinemeisberger8255

3 жыл бұрын

And the feedback... Love seeing all the different opinions. Great insights!

I play a tabaxi, scout rogue/gloomstalker ranger with the sage background and I absolutely love it. Her main role is an Investigator/infiltrator and in those roles she shines.

I don't think the Inquisitive rogue needs high Int. In fact I would say the only rogue that needs Int is the Arcane Trickster. Sure having a high int is nice for investigation checks, but expertise and eventually reliable talent are probably enough in most cases provided you don't have a negative modifier. As hard as the assassin rogue can hit, that one time when the stars align, it's just that. It can hit hard ONE time IF you're lucky. The damage output is too situational to be reliable. If you understand how surprise works mechanically AND build to maximize your chances of gaining surprise, this can be an OK class. BUT most of the time you're in a party and someone WILL mess up their stealth roll and ruin any chance of surprising the enemy. I would say that the Assassin is by far the worst rogue subclass, because it is way to situational.

I'm about to start a campaign as a half-orc (probably not the best race but doing it for RP as well) Scout rogue. Dip into 3 lvl Battlemaster Fighter, pick up Feinting Attack, Precision Attack, Riposte maneuvers. Taking the Far Traveler background for the insight/perception skills as they are from the orc clans, rough around the edges but travels into cities. I think it'll go very well! I was surprised when you gave the Scout such a high spot, I watched a couple others take on the Scout and they did not seem impressed. Keep up your videos as always!

@Almighty_Mage

3 жыл бұрын

With Tasha's you can place your racial stat bonuses anywhere

Scout looks like it would make a great ninja in a realistic historical setting

@DAEDRICDUKE1

3 жыл бұрын

I think Thief would fit better, fast hands lets you throw grounded glass in someones eyes and hit them.

@martaneon5310

3 жыл бұрын

@@DAEDRICDUKE1 pocket sand!

It's so funny to me, in the group I play with, Rogue is the favorite among pretty much all of them so every campaign there is usually more than one but it works out perfectly for me since I tend to gravitate toward mages, tanks and support but it's funny to me how popular Rogues are.

Cool video .. For sure AT are the best in the rogue class. So much versatility in RP and combat situations

I would have guess Swashbuckler being Nr. 1 but Nr. 3 is surprising especially since it's more fun than Arcane Trickster.

@Alexander-uy7xh

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, it is also the best rogue when your party is full of casters like mine

@Jetpack7

3 жыл бұрын

It is definitely possible to make an argument for any of the top 3 to be swapped. They're all super potent in my book!

@KatanaKamisama

3 жыл бұрын

I like swashbuckler as part of a tank build. Having Panache + Evasion + Uncanny Dodge makes for a SUPER effective tank character. If you multiclass with something else like Paladin or Fighter and then take 11 levels of Rogue you can get a character that is pretty near un-killable.

@KatanaKamisama

3 жыл бұрын

@sum body If you're playing a melee build using dexterity, swashbuckler is a nice pick up. If you're mainly using ranged weapons it's pretty worthless. If you want to take Rogue to 12, as a melee build for sure go Swash. I'm not sure how tanky the character will be multi-classed with ranger though. A safer option might be to stick with ranged weapons and go Scout Rogue. I would stay away from Arcane Trckster though to avoid problems with M.A.D. You'd still have higher potential damage output with a bow build though. Sharpshooter + Longbow + Sneak attack is a scary thing.

@KatanaKamisama

3 жыл бұрын

@sum body Swashbuckler sounds like a decent add then.

I believe theif might be tied with swashbuckler for best subclass for rouge, because out of combat, theives cannot fail a stealth check, and in combat they get 2 turns in round one.

side note at 12:00 what is the feature can't understand can someone write it in word please.

Where would you rank soul knife and phantom?

I've completely changed assassin, taking those non combat features & seapping in poison making & more Assassins Creed stuff. I then took the non combat stuff from assassin & made a new rogue subclass called "Saboteur"

Love that Eternal art

Time to update this 👍🏻

I've always seen the battle master as a stronger choice for a swashbuckling character. And also one that can use a buckler.

I have gotten a lot of use out of Fast Hands when I played the Thief and I ended up being all the way up to the end the most reliable character in the campaign(with an Artificer(Artillerist) and a Wizard(Scribes)).

Find Familiar for Arcane trickster Rogue is also insane. Get an Owl and have him do help and then fly away. Advantage on your attack so always Sneak.

Arcane trickster is top because of being able to cast spell. Second is assassin for me. I just like it. A successful assassination brings me bliss. Also the most feared one because if the DM uses one, it can tpk easily. With the assassin social features it can set up those assassinations, you don't need stealth if they automaticly trust you. And sneak attack damage increases anyway so it can keep up with higher lvl targets, specialy with auto crit doubling it.

I agree with this list 100%

"The 4th place rogue surprised me because I remembered it being a bit more powerfull than it is" Don't worry, you still overvaluate it. The assassin rogue is, at least for me, the worst rogue subclass of all. It's main ability, assassinate, is very hard to get to use if your DM doesn't allow you to do it as long as you start combat hidden and asks you to get an actual surprise round. Proficiency in poison kit is useless because of how many creatures are inmune to it, disguises can be replaced with magic, as you said 9 and 13 aren't very good, being a charlatan, a very common rogue background, gives you the same abilities, and the 17 lv ability will definitely NEVER see use when it's needed most. Not only most DMs not allow you to get surprise round and assassinate on a big boss, that boss probably has a ridiculous constitution save and you won't really feel like a master of instant death anymore. Either that or legendary resistance. I say all this from someone who is most familiarized with the rogue class, and who played this subclass from level 3 to 20.

Totally wanna make a Crossbow Expert, Sharpshooter Rogue Scout and be THE archer of my party, the Scout (and the Swashbuckler for that matter too) are so simple yet so effective i like to think of them as "idiot-proof Rogues" whereas the Arcane Trickster is way more versatile and powerfull sure...but that flexibility in picking spells means you can totally make it under-powered if you don't know what you're doing when you pick your spells.

Thief isnt weak it just is meant for certain kinds of campaigns. Kinda like the inquisitor

Having played with nearly all subclasses I have also quite controversial opinions. But all subclasses can shine in different campaigns and with different GM styles. It's also very dependent on the level of the campaign. At low levels the master mind help action is so good, the party will love you. Assassin was the worst experience in my hands. Either I outshone everybody killing the amazing mage that failed perception check or didn't use the 3rd level skill at all during whole sessions. Trickster and swashbuckler are very effective independent of the campaign or DM. Scout I haven't played in high levels when it really shines. Cool at low levels, but nothing impressive. But the rogue that Really made a great impact in the party was inquisitive. I wanted to test it and abandon, but I loved it. First, the only rogue that can sneak attack from ranged no matter what. Very tactical as one does not need to always attack the foe that has already an ally around (as swashbuckler can also do), but high Wis (low Int, drop it pls) with expertise in perception fully nullified ambushes. We ambushed, never the opposite. Observant+lvl9 ability gives you +10 passive perception. Forget about ambushes when no enemy reaches your passive perception. Casters love to save spell slots/prepared spells because they dont need to spend resources with these situational spells for interrogation and it's also more exciting to interrogate with actual skills rather than "we know the truth". In the end, nice that all are viable and good with cool parties and DMs.

The thief,in my opinion, is ment to be multi-class with fighter or ranger (hunter). 13 rogue 7 ranger.

Based on the order of the subclasses I see this as there are only 3 usable rouges. And tashas adds a 4th usable subclass. Too many completely useless features in half the archetypes. Why do I have to wait til 17th level to get my first usable feature when the game is over at level 10 at the highest.

@definitelynotcole

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

Inquisitve rogues with expertise in insight can fairly easily get sneak attack for a minute. so if you roll stats and do well they are great. I agree with thief is not for me, I took over for someone who dropped out of a game and ask the DM to allow me to change their subclass to literally any other subclass,(although I'm not a fan of mastermind too much either, but that's a personal preference) All together I think Rogues are awesome though.

If im using disguise kit. It's a mustache and my name is Rando.

i thought sigil was the go to setting to bring all campaign settings together

I guess assassin isn't too bad since most rouges probably won't get to level 9 since the group has disbanded before that.

@Mithguar

3 жыл бұрын

It's still terrible. You will do much better with any other rogue. How many encounters last more then 1 round? Assassin feature can only be used once per combat at best. You will get better effects with any other subclass. Even before lvl 9.

@cyruslupercal9493

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mithguar It basicly instantly kills enemies. If you can get a drop on them the assassin could instakill a priority target. Or just pick off enemies one by one. And forging an identity (disguise) that others can't automaticly roll agains is bullshit broken. You don't need stealth when people trust you.

honestly the worst one I believe to be the Inquisitive, mostly because the Thief is very useful in getaways, break-ins, trapfinding (more so than other Roguish Archetypes), stealth, and of course its namesake, thievery. That and, it's less niche than either the Mastermind and the Inquisitive, and even then the Mastermind is more useful than the Inquisitive as well

Thief use an object could mean drink a potion.

High elf gets 1 cantrip. Or you can have variant human and take magic innate. Soy you could have spells without arcane trickster and you can have more martial abilities like that of an assassin.

@timob1681

3 жыл бұрын

martial abilities like an assassin's? assassin gets 2 abilities that are useful in combat, one at level 3 and the other at level 17. both require the target to be surprised, which is very unreliable as you have to be hidden at the start of combat and roll higher on initiative

@skilzboiswagmaster4208

3 жыл бұрын

@@timob1681 Welll then you sir could use the swashbuckler archetype if you are concerned of this I simply prefer the abilities of an assassin and was simply pointing out that you can have magic as a plain assassin.

@timob1681

3 жыл бұрын

@@skilzboiswagmaster4208 can you explain what you like about assassin? i personally don't understand why you'd ever pick that class except for a specific style of campaign that uses its disguise features. assassin gets to deal extra damage to surprised targets, but if you don't have surprise then you're basically useless. surprise also means you have to roll high on initiative (granted with really high dex from rogue this shouldn't be *too* hard but still unreliable), and be in stealth before the start of combat, which is nearly impossible to manage consistently unless you just constantly sneak everywhere. also getting 1 cantrip from high elf or 2 cantrips and a level 1 spell (once per long rest) from v human seems pretty weak compared to the 3 cantrips and 4 spells you get right off the bat from arcane trickster, plus you get more/higher level ones later on. i'm just interested to know what it is about assassin that isn't complete garbage because it definitely seems that way to me.

@skilzboiswagmaster4208

3 жыл бұрын

@@timob1681 What appeals to you about arcane trickster? The class genuinely just gives you a bit better image hand and gives you weak spells from the most useless schools of magic.

@skilzboiswagmaster4208

3 жыл бұрын

@@timob1681 Also with the disguise abilities you can use for much more roleplaying as opposed to just casting mage hand and minor illusion with the arcane trickster class. Also you under estimate the power of variant human which can give you one feat of your choice. Without that you have to be 4th level to take a feat.

Kind of a bummer since I wanted to play a shadow monk but it leaves us without lockpicking or trap disarming.

@Nedoiko

3 жыл бұрын

you can play a monk with the Spy background, it gets proficiency in thieves tools

@dahelmang

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nedoiko ooh cool! Thanks for the tip!

Totally wrong about thief. Able to use magic items better than anyone including using wands as a bonus action later.

Wait.. No Swashbuckler?

I really believe that mastermind is the worst subclass in the entire game, even worse than beastmaster which can be completely denied if the animal dies. Mastermind makes the rouge entire focus social interaction, the combat abilities are non-existant, and the capstone ability is really underwelming, compared to the theif having broken out of combat abilities and two turns in round one, the assassins DPS, and the swashbucklers very existance, there is really no reason to play a mastermind. No offence to mastermind mains, I just think that any other face class just does their job better.

@Mithguar

3 жыл бұрын

Assassin DPS? What DPS? It has one really unreliable feature that might give you crit on ONE round of combat. Past that you are on the level of any other rogue. From my experience any other archetype is better then Assassin. As for Mastermind, It is way better then Assassin since as bonus action you can provide advantage on attack rolls for your party members which over the fight most likely then not would provide more DPS as team then ASSassin can do in one round that is somehow gets to use it's one feature.

Swashbuckler is the best rogue class, respectfully, obviously.

@liamdooley

3 жыл бұрын

And it’s not close..maybe the scout but panache is the best rogue ability, including assassination. I said it.

The strongest rogue is just multiclassing into Gloomstalker Ranger 😜

Thief is far better than Assassin. It will get far more utility and use out of fast hands than Assassin will out of Assasinate. Fast hands opens the door to applying poisons to weapons and ammo without losing an attack in combat by spending your action, BBE got a relic/key/item you need on their person well fast hands it right off then shank them in the kidney or just use your action to dodge or disengage, party member gone down well fast hands a healing potion then shoot the guy who dropped them. Fast hands allows you a plethora of options and opportunities over a variety of situations. With Assasinate there is only one situation that makes it good and if you wiff that then you’re just pretty much a base rogue at that point. Plus second story work can be a god send for anyone familiar with getting stuck in combat on a rope or ladder. Yeah, I’ll take my full movement to climb and then bonus action to dash up the rest of the way instead of being a hanging target dangling in the air, thank you very much. The jumping part comes in handy if your DM actually uses the jumping guidelines in game but most tend to just hand wave so it’s kinda a loss.

I was screaming “fuck assassins” before clicking the video Good clickbait lmao

I actually agree a lot with this tierlist but I would honestly place the Thief around the same level as the assassin, if not directly higher, Fast Hands is an unfathomably powerful ability, only limited by the items you have at hand, some items even ae able to attack as part of the "use an object" action (such as Acid vials, alchemist fire, and if your campaign allows it, dynamite and bombs), and fast hands allows you to even rob people mid combat with its ability to do sleight of hand checks, this means that if you surprise a target, you can attack with your action, and use your bonus action to steal their sword before their turn comes, and they've had a chance to draw it, also using objects as a bonus action means that you can draw multiple objects in the same turn and make combinations (there's the meme combo of drawing a portable hole and a bag of holding, and then using your action to put one inside the other), this also allows you to put poison in your weapons without a feat, or other dumb things like setting up traps in the middle of the battlefield, which is done through the use of thieves tools. Fast Hands is in my opinion an even stronger use of a bonus action than that or the mastermind and solely for that it should be on a similar level

@Hjortur95

3 жыл бұрын

oh crap thank you for pointing out using mundane explorer items for thief. my smallbrain stopped at thief 3, and then value levels in wizard to be able to cast scrolls as an extra action each round

@Nedoiko

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hjortur95 Sadly you can't exactly do that because magic items work a little differently, its sor tof a dm to dm base, but generally in league game its not allowed, but you can still use items like acid vials, ball bearings, caltrops, alchemist fire, also the thief is probably the only subclass who can open a door, go through it, and then close it comfortably mid combat

I disagree a bit with the ordering but what's up with this "rogue is ridiculously powerful" stuff. I'd say it's the 2nd worst class in the game after monk, definitely not "one of the best martials".

@nathanaelpoole1369

3 жыл бұрын

In combat sneak attack lets keep up somewhat with other martial classes, get a cantrip and throw booming blade on for fun. Out of combat you have the most skills, and reliable talent to make sure you can use them, my level 13 tabaxi swashbuckler cannot roll below 25 for stealth or persuasion, or deception (and can none magiclly charm people). So you are ok to good in combat, best at exploration, good in social settings (with the right skills and expertise) so you feature strongly in all 3 pillars of play. Maybe not the strongest combatant but one of the better classes.

He doesn’t understand Fast Hands 🤦🏾‍♂️

The thief is the weakest ... hahahahaha ... HAHAHAHAH ... wow Let me tell you about fast hands. you can sneak attack someone and then put manacles on them. or pocket sand and then sneak attack advantage. you can bonus action an ern full of oil on the person and then use your flame tong to set them on fire you can steal their magical ring or focus on their hands and use it in the same turn "if it doesnt require attunement . Want to attune to staff of woodland and get +10 stealth all the time sure. you want a holly avenger with the 30 feat protection you got it. want a staff of power and a rope of the arch mage ... you can do that. you can disarm a trap or interact with the word and still have an sneak attack. you have advantage on stealth without needing a magical item you get two turns and two sneak attacks that can be on the same target with 2 bonus action and two reactions ... no other rouge can do that. and it get Exponentially better if the DM is more lenient and let you use potions and magic items as bonus action I have a cop of waterdeap that is a thief rogue and its the most batman build you can have. she cut waterdeep adventure by half because she should steal the MacGuffin from the Person first time we met. I think the thief is one of the most powerful and flexible rogues. you can spec into spellcasting , tanking , damage depending on what you want that day. the thing is its really DM dependant to give you such Items or give you the opportunity to use more of your fast hands. but really good in AL let me tell you what. The arcane tricksters is really strong the cap stone is really really bad though so you make them do a save using their highest state and that they are most properly proficient in against your mediocre state ??? if they casted at a higher level you cant use the other half of your feature .. But hey ... when it works it can be better than a counter spell shutting that spell forever so it cant disintegrate every turn (if it works that way that you cant cast it but so doesnt the creature ... if it only works on 1st to 4th ... well you screwd) ... but it would almost never work and if it does they can burn a legendary resistance on it. it would have been better if it was a contested rolls and if you somehow gained proficiency in that roll you could use your reliable talent.

@andrewshandle

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, come on now, if your Rogue is running around with Holy Avengers to make you think Thief is the best, than I think you DM is being ridiculous with the loot they are throwing around, and some of your other examples are things most DMs would never allow either. I personally think the Thief is higher than he rated it, but coming up with ridiculous examples of how they are good that won't ever come up in a real campaign doesn't help your case.

@optimus2200

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewshandle hey ... in adventure league you can get some items you like if you can track them

@andrewshandle

3 жыл бұрын

@@optimus2200 you missed my point. If the you think Thief is the best subclass because it lets you carry around a legendary Paladin sword for the passive bonuses, you are grasping at straws.

@optimus2200

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewshandle well because it can. that is my point it can carry and benefit from that sword , it can use a staff of woodland , it can use any item for just any build you might think off. I think it is the best because it can do almost any thing.

@smackstar1015

3 жыл бұрын

I personally think theif is the best subclass, or at least tied with swashbuckler