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ezreal explaining how ezreal is hard to play makes me chuckle😶‍🌫

@CreatureCM-

4 ай бұрын

he's not even remotely hard to play either

@SirArtorias

4 ай бұрын

@@CreatureCM- He's easy to play since he has a low skill floor, but his skill ceiling is high and he's impossible to play perfectly.

@oskariilola2819

4 ай бұрын

Aphelios is easily the hardest adc for my opinion even harder to learn than azir without feeding. Only champ who beats those 2 in difficulty is riven.

@muhammied

4 ай бұрын

@@oskariilola2819 draven is the hardest by far imo

@oskariilola2819

4 ай бұрын

@@muhammied it took me 4 games to learn draven

hwei difficulty is hella overrated

@Tr1niTtyy

Ай бұрын

true

@user-gr1kn2uk8f

20 күн бұрын

Yeah he is 100% not as hard as people say, you have your basic abilities for fights and after five games you know what you are doing you don't have to watch that much stuff

@madeinheaven1234

16 күн бұрын

@@user-gr1kn2uk8fyeah but hwei just isnt strong maybe thats why but in general if they would put some buffs in for hwei he would be alot easier

@hnice5

7 күн бұрын

​@@madeinheaven1234 As a Hwei main, he is INSANELY BROKEN. And he does have hard stuff such as EQ+QW (practically a quadruple-cast) and not spamming WE

@zen5882

3 күн бұрын

@@hnice5 What's the point of EQ and WQ? Why not just EE at that point

Me seeing ezreal in Expert but not Aphelios.

@fatum8573

2 ай бұрын

Only braindeads thinks what Aphelios is hard 🗿 Just read his skills and autos

@user-bh9rl1xh7p

Ай бұрын

yes i agree ezreals skillset is higher than aphelios. The only thing aphelios is hard at is to get in to, rest is easy af

@alexandergotesson7921

Ай бұрын

@@user-bh9rl1xh7p Aphelios is actually harder than ppl think he is tbh he is alot squishier than other champs and its hard to use ur weapons well but he def is easier than ez

@hyytuy

Ай бұрын

Aphelios is just use your Q then auto attack nothing to dificult, funny to see people saying that champs that have Q W E R less dificult than Q R from aphelios

@user-qb5pq2yb3o

Ай бұрын

Came to comments just to see if someone said this 💯 even draven or vayne seem too low tbh

i main hwei and i can say with confidence that azir is leagues above hwei in difficulty

As an ADC main since season 4 I don't really agree with all the placements. Aphelios requires more effort, for the same reasons of Hwei, while I don't think Kai'Sa is that hard: yep, she has a short range, but she has like 2-3 combos, her trading pattern is really simple (Q+aa or Q+W+aa for all-ins). I would also put cait in hard tier, because she's easy to pick up but hard to master: you need to be able to exploit her range advantage and her mechanics are harder because they revolve a lot around the traps placement.

@aaronblasco5190

4 ай бұрын

This ranking is skill floor based, not skill ceiling

@finnthehero3558

4 ай бұрын

I personally dont get how Jhin is hard to pick up, legit half of my friends have Jhin as pick if they get autofilled to adc

@Faber117

4 ай бұрын

​@@finnthehero3558 He aint hard, the best kiting + CC + dmg so hes the best to fill

@crisnmaryfam7344

4 ай бұрын

gotta remember this is all from one (or maybe even more) persons point of view, you may be better or worse with a particular champs kit and thus is feels more natural to you and easier to pick up, Some find irelia hard, some easy. Most however agree shes designed for a more experienced player.

@Yokai_Yuri

4 ай бұрын

Cait? the champ with the longest aa in the game, low mana cost for her abilities, point and click super long ranged ult. Has a get away mechanic that slows the enemies that hit and empowers your next A.A. She can also put traps that last forever. That cait is hard to use and master?

I'd argue that Draven deserves to be in the Expert tier too, getting used to his Q mini game is really tricky especially since you need to learn to manage axes properly without throwing yourself into an unfavourable position and getting caught by like a Blitz hook or a WW ult

@ruven782

4 ай бұрын

Draven axes gets really easy if you stop thinking about it. It was designed to land where ure going

@greenstrawberrygaming

3 ай бұрын

ive played about 3/4 games with draven and i dont find it hard at all sure i miss a couple of axes but it isn't that tricky

@Crescendobro

3 ай бұрын

@@greenstrawberrygaming its not hard at the start, when it gets hard is micromanaging a triple axe juggle while activating W to maintain move/attack speed while deciding when u can snag an axe or if it would put u in a position to eat a fight losing CC like Blitz Q, Morg Q, Naut Q, Leo E, Etc…

@deividasrunca3596

2 ай бұрын

I disagree with draven its no so easy at all you need just good reaction. To be honest for me Lucian is even harder

@ruven782

2 ай бұрын

@@deividasrunca3596 it becomes hard if you try to control them.. if you just walk itll usually do its job by itself when kiting

Okay so this may be a hot take, but i don't find hwei that hard. He is mecanically demanding, but his game plan is really simple and so is his laning phase: you just perma push with rumble's R, do not has mana problem bc of his e. His mana management is way better than the average mage, and you can spam spells on cs or oppo. From the start of the game he can lane bully really hard thanks to all of those things, and whith R, bite and bolt has significant kill pressure. His teamfights aren't hard, easier than most mages imo (except for the mecanics required). I started playing him and have better results than char like anivia that i play for a longer time. Even in the mu against assassins which are supposed to be hard there isn't much trouble, bc you have the constant wave pressure and with their poor wave clear they can't do anything, if they roam they loose tons of cs, even if they all-in you just fear them and out damage them. The only mu that i find hard are zed, fiz (permaban) and xerath bc of range

@yuzu8059

4 ай бұрын

I agree, I would also add Irelia to champions I personally struggle against as Hwei. He is unique but once you get the grasp of him, he is a very reliable pick at least for me. Positioning is key I would say since his abilities have different range and ult was hard to land before recent buff, now he is kinda easy for me. Insane poke in lane and sustain from we, also nice tempo due to wq, easy to dodge ganks with using qe wq and e that fits the situation the most.

@chriswilliamson9993

4 ай бұрын

If he's so easy then why is his win rate so low? IMHO, there are several things that make him hard. Firstly, his early game cooldowns are really long, and good opponents will punish those. Engages and ganks will be timed for when both his Q and E are on cooldown, and he needs to deal with that. Secondly, whilst it's easy to select the right spells to use in normal situations, correctly picking the right spells to use and not panicking in chaotic team fights with all sorts of stuff happening around him is pretty damn hard. His success is also massively dependent on hitting his ultimate, and correctly landing that skill short probably has more impact on the outcome of a team fight than almost any other skill in the game (possible exceptions - Rumble and Orianna R).

@eebbaa5560

4 ай бұрын

@@chriswilliamson9993his winrate is low because he sucks hope this helps

@nogamenolife7407

4 ай бұрын

Easy af to dodge all his spells he sucks that bite is so easy to dodge

@0hmeg4

4 ай бұрын

@@eebbaa5560 Ah yes the classic "It's the champion that's bad, not me". Let me guess, it's also your teamates fault you're hardstuck iron?

when making a tier list on difficulty you either rank by skill floor which is what you did or skill ceiling. skill floor is how long it takes to average a 50% winrate on certain picks(which indicates moderate proficiency) , skill ceiling is how hard it is to master them to the point where you can play every aspect of the champion perfectly everygame. For example champions like Zed, irelia, yasuo have skill ceilings so high it's practically unattainable to reach perfect play on those champions. You should change the title to specify this list is about hard hard it is to pick up these champs not master them.

@xctkillaprodigyx2586

4 ай бұрын

Oh shit what's up laceration? When you going to drop a new vid man I been missing your content. Im finally enjoying Zed again this season and feel like hes somewhat getting back to his former glory. Hope to see some stuff from you soon bro. Much respect!

@AsirIset

4 ай бұрын

Very much agreed. Quite useless list honestly. Although Zed isn't actually that hard at all comared to Ire and Yas. Honestly he has very straightforward playstyle with some harder combos you would use less frequently

@Zedthality

2 ай бұрын

drop new videos broooo

@rolandasgrigaitis708

Ай бұрын

It's not that champions like zed are impozsible to master, it's more like you are never going to assume that you'll land everything when going for a kill.

@gryphonschnitzel7140

21 күн бұрын

Katarina has the highest skill ceiling in game.

Mostly agree but... I would say that so many champions have so many cute little tricks and secrets that make them pop off, like a Sion for instance. You can have 100 games of Sion and still not play him like the baus. Even the simple champions can require many many games for you to play them well. But nice video!

@georgeromain2274

4 ай бұрын

the bausffs skills is not related to the champ at all, he just completely masters the wave management and completely understand how bountys and splitpushing works

@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439

4 ай бұрын

@@georgeromain2274 although i agree with this, what he said is true to an extend too, you can see how much a player knows the champion based on little things even if its a simple champion, like auto W R animation cancel on Renekton or E flash on Urgot kinda shows how much that player is trying to take advantage of the champion's kit

@layanmorningstar

4 ай бұрын

@@georgeromain2274 I agree with you, his skill on other areas of the game -definitely- help him shine, though I still think that knowing how to play your champion is still important. There are so many pixels he uses to Q out of vision, saving his W AFTER he has taken damage, using E right before dying so people is slowed for the passive, using ult to ignore CC, there are SO many little interactions that you can only learn with 100+ games that will make a sion completely take over a game, compared to "just an average tank"

@layanmorningstar

4 ай бұрын

@@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439 Exactly. There are so many pixels he uses to Q out of vision, saving his W AFTER he has taken damage, using E right before dying so people is slowed for the passive, usin Q + R + Q to ignore Sion camera displacement on the ult... So many tricks, that turn sion from a tank to an actual beast xD

@foximou

4 ай бұрын

I think we should see this more as skillfloor than skillceiling.

Never saw a good Yasuo with only 25 Games.

aint no way qiyana isnt 50+

@blipbloup7168

4 ай бұрын

fr bro no way qiyanna is as hard as ziggs

@Accelerant216

4 ай бұрын

@@blipbloup7168 fr the mechanics u need for that champ are no joke, especially with how weak she is late game

@NewaZusa

4 ай бұрын

Sona is also as hard as Zyra and Heimer is as braindead as a Yuumi. 💀💀💀

@gabimarius772

4 ай бұрын

the only reason to watch this channel's videos are to literally see how braindead and bad their takes are every damn video.

@pyrefly7575

4 ай бұрын

This list is total bullsht

The basic viego kit is simple but to use the abilities of your enemies efficiently you gotta learn alot of champs. You could say he has an infinite skill sealing because you won't be able to master every champ to its maximum potential.

@Tobias_THFC

4 ай бұрын

In theory yes but you literally just click all their buttons and ult again in practice and go back to statchecking with your big sword

@giovanni9682

4 ай бұрын

or you just learn to master one champ and pick Viego only against him hehe

@zuiplap040

4 ай бұрын

what an absolute bullshit xd

@risy95

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, the skill ceiling of champions weren't on focus here, it's about the skill floor. I main Zyra, she has a pretty low skill floor as I see a lot of people succeeding with her in low elo. But at the same time even high elo players may not use her plants optimally.

@craftinteemo7055

4 ай бұрын

The biggest pitfall as viego is accidentally taking the soul of someone with terrible items and getting one shot the second you're able to be hit lol.

9:23 "No other adc has a reload mechanic" Ahem, Graves?

@paulvosteen5414

8 күн бұрын

what part of an adc havent u understood yet?

@DamianSlayr

7 күн бұрын

@@paulvosteen5414 Almost as if he's an attack damage carry and scales off crit. Dumɓàss.

Another thing that's incredible simple to do as Heimer support is ruining the state of the minion wave. I have yet to play alongside a Heimer support that didn't force you to be constantly pushing unless you want him to get all the CS. He may be easy to pick up, but to use him effectively, I'd say a some experience is required...

@dripszn6732

2 ай бұрын

This is about picking up the champion so he is easy but hard to actually master

@hptr

16 күн бұрын

This is one of the main reasons why heimerdinger support should not be in the easy tier imo

bro placed qiyana in the same tier as ahri, xerath, ziggs and anivia💀

@esteboi3858

Ай бұрын

idk what he’s smoking to put ahri in 50 games or more man, poster girl for a reason her kit is simple as hell

shaco support mention, nice. The hardest part about the pick is your allies flaming you when you pick it. And then they never respect your champ's cooldowns or set ups. But when they actually do play with the boxes or bait people into your set ups it's so rewarding. Having a lot of fun this season controlling objectives with shaco support.

@chriswilliamson9993

4 ай бұрын

I've never seen Shaco support getting flamed. However, in my experience, if you pick Seraphine bot lane in low ELO, then you have more than a 50% chance of your support flaming you before minion waves crash - and that's despite her averaging a 53% win rate in the role.

@sonnenblume4

4 ай бұрын

@@chriswilliamson9993 high win rate but low pick rate. i outdmg sera adcs on support shaco every time so idk, i personally don't like it because most of the time mid is ap, i'm ap if on main but most supports are ap. We need a solid ad for a good comp. i'd rather have a lethality adc right now than a a sera but its personal taste. especially with all the mr items that were added in the game, playing 3 ap champs is very bad. of course you can pick it only when your team goes ad mid ad jg ad top but most of the time you gotta first pick adc/support so mid and top get last pick so its hard if nobody hovers.

@chriswilliamson9993

4 ай бұрын

@@sonnenblume4 It's not that unusual for a team to show a whole load of AD champions in select. Last season I'd pick Ziggs to fill that hole, but the new items don't suit Ziggs, and his win rate has plummeted. Sera is a much better choice for that niche.

@eebbaa5560

4 ай бұрын

if you pick shaco anything you deserve to get flamed

@sonnenblume4

4 ай бұрын

@@eebbaa5560 hater 🥰

Got wipelash seening Asol as easy. Remember when Asol had the worst learning curve in the entire game.

@Pyngpong_

4 ай бұрын

nah u coping

@gjenkn9

4 ай бұрын

@@Pyngpong_ old asol with the rotating orbs

@Pyngpong_

4 ай бұрын

@@gjenkn9 ye I missread that

@mr.joesterr5359

Ай бұрын

new asol isnt easy. He is a pure macro champ where you have to have amazing spacing and fubdamentals to see any success on him

@Pyngpong_

Ай бұрын

@@mr.joesterr5359 nah he is easy to play because litteraly every other champ that are similar have to play macro a lot more effectively while not having the privilege of infinite scaling, insane waveclear and a braindead safety tool (i.e azir,anivia,...)

i almost spilled my drink when i saw Ksante in Expert and Fiora in Hard.

Hwei is honestly not that hard. After 5 games you get used to where all his abilities are and he's just a standard mage at that point. Orianna, zed, qiyana are all harder imo

@ziggs123

4 ай бұрын

Zed😂

@jollygoodgaming2296

4 ай бұрын

hwei is braindead not hard in the slightest

@drewwilliams9051

4 ай бұрын

@@ziggs123 playing zed at a mediocre level isn't too hard but he's one of the higher skill capped champs, no?

@sirhellsing

Ай бұрын

@@ziggs123 When I started lol, he just felt that hard since I need to execute my combo very quick with everything being a skillshot, I'm horrible at skillshots

The best part of this comment section is everyone having a different opinion about where each champ goes.

I was watching the old video for this lately. Fantastic timing!

yone in hard tier? yone..?

saying that yasuo is easier than jayce is WILD

@aaronblasco5190

4 ай бұрын

Yasuo itemization is kinda the same for almost every match-up for the first 3 items, + you always buy boots first, so you just need to know how the passive, W, Q and E works science R is really easy to underestand. Also underestand that he scales harder as the game goes on and only need 2 items to dont care about being behind anymore

bro really put himself in expert

YONE HARD CHAMP SURE IS SO HARD TO PRES E AND START BEATING YOUR LANER

I mostly agree, but I think Blitzcrank is actually way easier if you have general game knowledge. You have pressure by just standing in range of your Q, you dont even need to hit anything, you simply have to exist in a place where enemies can be scared of your hook

@tera4408

4 ай бұрын

U know what a skill floor tier list is right

Hwei is SO easy lmao what

@pugify587

Ай бұрын

I can’t tell if ur lying

qiyana's one of the hardest to pick up tho

@ziggs123

4 ай бұрын

Overrated

@2prominent

4 ай бұрын

read the abilitys and know how to hit vayne's E and you're good to go

I feel like Ahri and Syndra are more of 10-25 or even less, they are similar to Lux or Ori. Qiyana and Irelia are way harder to play.

just wondering who the one trick is there that plays Udyr and wanted him as high tier and not easy tier.

"Ezreal and jhin are very skillshot reliant" - excuse me, what about zeri XD

NAMI HARD ?

I’ve been trying to pick up ezreal recently as a very new player, I only play bot lane. For me kiting and positioning is super hard so far but the skill shots aren’t so hard, I think it’s because I can pretty freely hit new players that don’t really sidestep etc. I’ve been having loads of fun on him and can’t wait to get even better. He has ironically been my most successful adc so far. I’m used to Jinx, Jhin and MF. And also am finding a lot of success on them more so jhin than the others

As someone who plays Swain and Hwei mid, Swain should be considered medium (e and w can be quite tricky). And Hwei should be in hard instead of expert, his huge ability pool gives him a lot of options without being a headache after some games

Having yasuo top not expert is crazy margins for error is probably the lowest of them all.

Ziggs is literally first timeable tho like yes he has skill shots but even after 100 games u won’t hit every and u don’t need to since he is very forgiving cause he has such low cds and most of time only spams the abbiltys onto the wave

Aphelios not being expert tier is criminal

There are 3 ADC champions who deserve to be in Expert difficulty - Kalista, Aphelios, Draven and that's it. Kalista was explained in the video, Aphelios has one of the most confusing kits for a beginner and trying to manage Draven's axes during fights is one of the hardest things to do as one mistake could literally cost you an entire fight. Ezreal? I mean I get that you're biased, but this is arguably one of the safest ADCs which gives you more breathing room to get used to it, there aren't many things you need to keep in mind when playing him, I'd feel safer if I had a first time Ezreal on my team than I would with a first time Kalista,Draven or Aphelios which kind of contradicts your "first time test" theory. Kalista and Draven are oddly similar in the sense where you're basically forced to move around if you want to be even slightly useful and it's very easy to get into a bad situation.

Back when I was bronze, I played Velkoz supp as autofill. It was quite good.

@philipposmalliaris4623

4 ай бұрын

it still is good

@chriswilliamson9993

4 ай бұрын

Reminds me of my time in Bronze shortly after the Gangplank rework. I used to play him top lane without the slightest clue as to his real potential. No one had even heard of a triple barrel back then. As for Vel'koz, playing him well is, IMHO, one of the hardest things in the game. Not only does he have quite unique skill shots, but the ability to early cancel his Q brings him to a whole new level - getting the time consistently right on early Q cancels in order to hit people behind minions is exceptionally hard.

@philipposmalliaris4623

4 ай бұрын

@@chriswilliamson9993 play velkoz with malignance, shadowflame, rabadons. Mid. Unless you are against an assasin like fizz you will have a blast dealing huge amounts of dmg.

@falcoatilla3620

4 ай бұрын

vel'koz is one of the hardest champs in the game, especially on midlane

@philipposmalliaris4623

4 ай бұрын

@@falcoatilla3620 I think having m7 on him, I know how hard velkoz is.

I still remember back when Cassiopeia was pretty much the unanimous hardest champion. Then ones like Orianna and Anivia were close behind

if this dude sneaks in a "who needs a map" i'll sub ;p

Seeing Jayce on expert for top lane on this list kind of made the opinions useless

When Hwei came out I decided to learn him. I played at least 20 arena games got better and better. I won a lot on SR, but I still forget to use some skills and it's funny when I panic and press buttons in the wrong order. :D For me he's as hard as Aphelios, because I'm more confident with mages.

@eebbaa5560

4 ай бұрын

he’s way easier than aphelios it’s not even a comparison

@risy95

4 ай бұрын

@@eebbaa5560 Skill floor or skill ceiling?

@eebbaa5560

4 ай бұрын

@@risy95 both. skill ceiling might be comparable but he’s actually a deceptively simple champion. there are some mechanical requirements but nothing nearly as hard as playing an adc, especially one as involved as aphelios. hwei’s skill floor is actually super low; he has 10 abilities but they’re all pretty straightforward. the hardest thing about him is having both the situational awareness and the apm to play him in teamfights, but even then, he’s still easier than aphelios.

@risy95

4 ай бұрын

​@@eebbaa5560 I agree on player skill. But the video also seem to calculate champion knowledge. On the long run Hwei is much easier than Aphelios, but not at the moment for me. You can play Aphelios like any adcs. Obviously not good, but you may beat worse players. If an average player plays Hwei without any knowledge, he will be useless. Only from this viewpoint, Hwei is the hardest and most confusing champ.

@FantasticKruH

4 ай бұрын

​@@eebbaa5560exactly, hwei is actually super simple with no unique tricks, no difficult combos. All of his spells are pretty straightforward.

I'd hate to see a first time Kayle in my ranked games, it's not that the kit is hard, it's just a whole different way of approaching the game and it requires quite a strong mental because the champ has so little agency (and it tilts your allies to oblivion when you can't roam in the enemy jungle to invade with them at level 3 against a lane bully, for some reason)

I love how they put yasuo in 25-50 games required

Hi there could you add names not just icons as I have no clue which is which . Playing lol from time to time along with other games so not an expert

When it comes to Hwei its not really that difficult to memorize the abilities, the difficult part is mana managment and knowing what ability is the most useful in certain situations. Its very easy to missclick or accidentally use the wrong ability and its very punishing in 1v1s, especially since his R is easy to miss for newer players

I am missing irelia and gangplank from the mid expert tier, I think irelia is so damn hard mechanically ( specially if you want perfect aa cancel with all the spells and movement ) , and for gangplank mid, it is hard to play vs mages, dodging and timing barrels make or break the matchup.

@nimrodszocs2795

4 ай бұрын

gp mid vs mages is about the same as any ranged matchup top. They only put it lower bc gp is weaker early and mid is a bit safer for that, ither than that it’s the same. It’s just a bit more forgiving

@petercserkuthy3292

4 ай бұрын

Nah top is easyer, more melee matchup, and mid gets ganked more, and gp has no mobility so it is way harder( at least for me, i hate to ply gp to ranged matchups thoo) and as a fun fact, you are a sitting duck on mid, because you dont want to roam a lot, to get to lvl13 as fast as possible, but he is pretty good vs yone yasuo and other melee champs

@criticalrevel

4 ай бұрын

Oh yeah its so hard pressing Q key and then right click a target to 100 - 0 a target or at least blow summs ... Ppl whining bout irelia being hard ... The même xd

@petercserkuthy3292

4 ай бұрын

@@criticalrevel I think you misunderstood, In Irelias case ( and gp also) starting to play the champions is not the hard part, it’s pretty easy. As Irelia you can get away with that, until you reach a certain level. Then, people will not let you do that. The hard part of Irelia is to reach 100% dps consistently with aa cancells, to trad on a low hp caster, q execute the caster you aa the enemy and then q out and you will have to do it as fast, that the enemy doesn’t hit you back ( for example,as gp it is timing constantly, to hit the barrels when it has 2 health and it ll reach 1 when your aa gets there) and you can play gp as ok flash basic q on the adc in late game and delete her, but that is far away from what is the max potential of the champ. I advise you to watch an Irelking clip and see what it looks like when played on a high level .

One question. Is Gold 4 LP 1 enough for the higher rewards at season end? I m asking for a friend.

I disagree with hwei being so difficult. I don't think you actually tried that champ. You really get a feel for his abilities quickly and can commit them to muscle memory with 10-20 games. His problem is, that his damage output falls off rather hard late, so it's difficult to have an impact even if you are ahead. Champs like Zed and kata aren't less mechanically complex and they have no cc. You need much more macro knowledge to pull them off and if you fall behind you have no utility/cc to help you stay relevant.

I'm confused on how Xerath got placed in the hard tier. He's one of the less interactive champs in the game similar to Ziggs.

@criticalrevel

4 ай бұрын

All of their abilities ALL are skillshots, which means that if u dont land then u DONT deal damage no matter how fed u are. U can be fed af in a game but miss all your skillshots in a tf and suddenly u are worth less. And they do also as most champs have clear exploitable weaknesses (Hard engage cc)

@guzvar

4 ай бұрын

@@criticalrevel I've been maining Xerath support and mid, yes his kit is all skillshots but they are not hard to land at all, maybe the ult but no way you need 50+ games to master it, also his passive makes missing some skillshots more forgiving

@ElReyDeNoche

4 ай бұрын

@criticalrevel I recently played Ziggs. As long as you have a brain you can legit just Stomp games through poke and farming. Both can AFK farm and hard engage counters any immobile camp many with less Range and safety than Xerath or Ziggs. Skills hots are not the biggest deciding factor. That's why I pointed out both can be highly uninteractive in lane.

@Aschuff22

Ай бұрын

@@guzvaryou probably aren’t a very high rank to be honest. Xerath abilities are so easy to dodge is almost comical. It’s actually one of my favorite champs to lane against, because you buy boots, and watch as he drains all his mana either trying to poke you but miss, or just farms and leaves you alone and is basically a walking 300 gold for assassin mids/ jgs

Ashe is an auto attack champion mainly its 90 prec of her dmg ult and w are just poke and cc shes ez becuse the slow makes the kiting easier but shes still very auto attack focused

The video I have been waiting for

Bro did my girl Orianna dirty

briar being on hard seems crazy but the average game sense makes it understandable

@adambartone9193

4 ай бұрын

Dude yeah I was really surprised by that.

Really disagree with mid. Hwei shouldn't remove a whole hoard of champs from the 50+ category when that's where they 150% belong. If anything make a special category or mention for him, but lying about a handful of champ being 25-50 when they're 1000% 50+, just because the new champ is harder to you, is wrong imo. I also don't think Hwei is as hard as people think he is. Aphelios is way harder to manage as his guns each do something completely different, come with a different ability, and different ult interaction. Hwei has three category of spells...all the spells inside that category are related to each other n terms of purpose and the icons are VERY clear and helpful in reminding you what his abilities do. And then Ez in 50+? Lololol

5 divisions guaranteed? does that mean you can guarantee to bring me from diamond 3 to challanger and if i end up stuck in grandmaster i get money back?

After playing the new season for 2 months i can confidently say that hwei does not belong in expert-tier. He might have 10 abilities but its not like he has any hard to execute combos like jayce or azir. instead you press q-e on the wave. and a couple of seconds later you do the same thing again. Get minion demat and you will pretty much oneshot the wave at lvl 8/9. Being able to get prio against champs like zoe (who is one of the strongest early game mages) in the early game should just not be a thing. zoe, azir, ryze are just a couple of examples that are 100% harder to execute than this bs champion. Champ has basically everything you would want from a control mage. CC, zone control, high dmg, high range, utility and even free mana sustain.

Me on my 15th game on Lee Sin wondering when i will actually be good lmao

theres no way you need 50 games with irelia or ksante at top

What’s your thoughts on twisted fast?

as a thresh main and a shaco support enjoyer I agree

Hey, have you guys thought about making some Wild Rift content? I love casually watching LoL pro play, though most of my gameplay is on Wild Rift. I really love your content and would really appreciate some WR stuff

hwei is def not expert tier. ppl saying using 10 abilities is way harder than 4 have like 2 fingers on both hands. the only "hard" decision on him is "to play defensively with WW or aggressively with WE" (in reality you just WEEQRQQ one target or the same with QEEE on crowd, woah big brain goes brrr)

@doriangray8032

4 ай бұрын

9+R abilities but when comes all to it's just QE WE EE (3+R) no point risking QQ in lane just QE Rumble R on low CD

Aurelion Sol is an easy to learn midlaner? I find this very hard to fathom.

@chinbooty

Ай бұрын

LOL

As a Blitzcrank main, it's nice to see them in a higher tier when most of the community seems to see them as a beginner champ. Sure, Blitzcrank is mechanically pretty simple, but also very punishing if played sloppily. You have negative lane pressure if you miss your hooks and the self slow on W can get you in serious trouble. Plus knowing when to ult immediately vs when to hold it for the extra dps. And don't get me started on hooking the wrong champ at the wrong time. Nothing feels worse than when your adc dies and it's all your fault.

for anyone yall gotta notice in higher elo everything needs skill its just the time u gotta spend on a champ to perfectly play it!

Shaco belongs in the expert tier. Beeing the only Champion that can build anything for specific situations is a feat that you have to learn for a very long time. Nidalee is definently easier to improve on than him and I main both of them arround mid to high dia.

@jmm947

4 ай бұрын

i think this scuffed list is mostly just referring to skill floor

Zed is super elite tier unless you are playing in pisslow

I’m flattered you think my main Bel’Veth is hard but I’m not sure about that.

Many champ placements fail/miss the skill floor and ceiling part in this list: vayne, Vlad, viego, swain, Viktor, ori, tf ,... Also Aphelios and Draven are harder than ezreal. This makes it seem like hitting skills is the only skill...

Seeing Asol in easy feels so weird. They’re not wrong with the new Asol but it’s just weird.

Is hwei really that much different from other mages?

How is Ashe in the same tier as Miss Fortune? She's one of the hardest ADCs to deal damage with and in terms of power her ult is not comparable to MF's at all

@The_oli4

4 ай бұрын

yea true ashe ult is way stronger and just is a free kill on her ult cd

@ljgaming7067

4 ай бұрын

@@The_oli4facts. Plus her perma slowing which basically makes kiting the equivalent of riding a bicycle with training wheels.

@Tobias_THFC

4 ай бұрын

Lol

putting aphelios below kalista is p wild... he's so hard to carry with if u fall behind.

Xerath in anything but Easy/Medium tier is funny af

I disagree with Quinn being easy tier, yes she can impact games very well but she puts her team at a disadvantage comp-wise and you have to employ very specific mechanics for each matchup and have insanely good spacing and kiting

Rengar, irelia, riven 50 games + ? Only for begining lol players, who never play this lane, Top lane have several hardest champions.

@ziggs123

4 ай бұрын

Which once?

As a level 7 bird watcher, I am shocked that Quinn is considered an easy top laner. One mistake in the entire laning phase can easily mean being behind the enemy top laner for the rest of the game.

@semerkosa

4 ай бұрын

Wdym bro... You mainly face melee bruisers/tanks and easily shut their engage with an E + Q. One mistake on any champ can throw your lane, so that's a bad argument.

Imo Lux on mid deserves to be easy tier, just hit q at least 50% of the times. Q + e + r takes 50%+ of enemy hp usually. E has huge hitbox Q might be a bit more difficult to hit, but still easy And r is just r...interstellar beam that has almost no cooldown, huge range and is easy to hit There is a reason as to why they offer you Lux as one of the picks in tutorial

@ziphrox

3 ай бұрын

whole lotta yap

@NotSoSocialBorys

3 ай бұрын

@@ziphrox or just good arguments

@harshabhigyan928

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Cant get any easier. U dont even need wave management you have your ult. Positioning doesnt matter cuz u can stay out of the screen all the time. Its the same level as Annie. Atleast Annie has to get close

@antistraightmen

7 күн бұрын

@@NotSoSocialBorys bad arguments, she has 4 skillshots and is easily countered, her difficulty comes from positioning and managing enemy cds.

@antistraightmen

7 күн бұрын

@@harshabhigyan928 yeah and annie has a farming tool and better defence against everything

Wouldnt call it too accurate as you get punished heavily nowadays if you dont otp a champion

Okay so why is Aphelios lower than Ezreal in ranking? Like his kit is waaayyy harder than Ezreal. Like Ezreal is landing skillshots but have you seen like the 200 years worlds? Like everyone was saying it would take 200 years to understand Aphelios. So he should have his own class over the expert tier. Also to be good with Aphelios it takes more skill than to be good with Hwei.

@Aschuff22

Ай бұрын

First off, you completely misunderstood the 200 years meme. It had absolutely nothing to do with how long it would take to understand him, the joke was that riot made a video saying they had a combined 200 years of developing and balancing experience, and then aphelios came out and was one of the most broken things ever released. That was the entire joke. 2nd off, it really comes down to the player, but the reason you could have ezreal higher than aphel is because almost 100% of his damage comes from hitting skillshots constantly, like more than any other champ in the game. And I think some people forget that when you get past gold elo, people know how to sidestep abilities. Plus mechanically, aphelios is extremely easy to pull off, he’s just much more about champion specific knowledge. At the end of the day, some people find it harder to know how to use and manage a bunch of weapons efficiently, and some people find it harder to land 50 skill shots in 1 fight

Yo I see my boy sylas support on the expert list. That’s what I like to see 😂

master yi has been a hard champ for a while now

Who’s the hwei glazer at skill capped lol

Seeing Quinn in easy tier is an instant end of watching the video. Considering the fact that you need to play around harrier procs, space correctly, and a lot more. You literally put her and Garen in the same tier, like cmon

@titoluizpereira6281

4 ай бұрын

And unlike most top champions, any Quinn's mistake is very punishable. There's so little room for mistakes with her, you misscalculated an E or miss a Q and you die.

@JohnSmith-zp8pn

4 ай бұрын

ok buddy, quinn is braindead easy, quit coping, ur just bad

No Qiyana in expert tier mid? Lol.

I would have switched Viego and Briar

I think aurelion sol should be at medium tier because a lot of players takes more than 10 games to actually understand the gameplay

Guess it's funny that my top three mid laners are Hwei, Syndra, and Aurelion Sol. 😂 Im out here with a spectrum of easy to expert champs.

I'd argue viego is much harder since you need to know at least the basics of each champion in the game to make the most out of his passive.

@seedem7861

4 ай бұрын

Nah, Viego is very overloaded, and even with no understand of his passive, you'll still do better than you would with most other junglers.

Imo Draven is harder to play than Ezreal. Overall good video

no way heimer support is easier than zyra. I main both and a lot of heimer's power comes from things like blocking skill shots with turrets and landing the hardest skill shot in the game - his grenade.

viktor is way harder than most champs in the hard tier and also i don’t really understand what nami is doing in the hard tier

@mcsy98

4 ай бұрын

viktor e used to be very hard to land consistently especially at max range but hes basically way easier now with the new clamp cast setting so maybe thats why. still should be at least hard level though because of his reliance on having very good csing skills to be useful and also some more micro intensive mechanics

Why is aphelios not in adc expert tier?

i would swap aurelion with xerath honestly. i never seen good sol even after many played games

The hell champs like vayne or varus doing on top? Or lb and heimer on supp? What the heeeell

I think Kayn is a bit high. He really only needs creativity with his E but otherwise i dont find him too difficult.

Ashe not reliant on auto attacks? Really? And how can you even compare MF's ult with Ashe's?