Great video, very nice work , def buying this car....

Thanks for you videos! I’m also in Ottawa and drove to Montreal this past weekend (200 km). Temperature -1c with light snow and 40km/hr head winds. I was traveling between 90-100 km/hr consumption average was 15.9kwh per 100 kms

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Great :)

As always - very interesting videos you make. I can add a little tip about AC charging at home. Ref 0:50 in your video. There are two ways to avoid the plastic lid that covers the type 2 connector on the car hanging down the side of the car which is not appropriate - especially in windy weather. The lid can easily be attached to the flap. The curved handle on the plastic lid can be placed on one of the two plastic tabs on the flap. Another way is to assemble the lid with the rubber lid on the cable connector.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I’ll give these tips a try :)

Thanks, informative video.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

Great video, thanks!!...

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Welcome :)

There needs to be a 40 to 60 kilowatt version of the Ioniq. That'd be amazing.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed :)

@stonesie81

5 жыл бұрын

A 64Kw version is coming next year, possibly with the 150Kw motor from the Kona too. Although that could just be salesman's patter as I can't find any specifics online. (I had a short test drive in a current Ioniq today and loved it), then we crunched some numbers and over £550 a month is daft when I can lease one for £350.

@marktiller7760

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, my guess would be 39.5 the same small kona battery, but with the ioniq's incredible efficiency, I think that would do most people. I'd be extremely happy with that.

@dojohansen123

5 жыл бұрын

kWh, not kW. This is an error equivalent to saying your weight is 150 decibels, or saying you had one minute of egg for breakfast. In a way it's worse, because using a unit of power about a car makes sense, it just means something completely different than what you mean; like if you say you wish you were above 180 cm people might assume you're talking about how tall you'd like to be, but you actually meant how old you are, or how much you weigh. To try and help those who find these units confusing, my tip is this: take a moment to reflect on the difference between "dimensions" and "units". Dimensions are the independent aspects of reality. Time, distance, and mass are maybe the most familiar. They are the fundamental way we think about reality. Units are tied to dimensions, and necessary to quantify stuff. Some examples of units of distance often used in everyday life are inches, yards, miles; or centimetres, meters, kilometers in the SI system. In addition to the basic dimensions there are derived dimensions. Area, for example, obviously isn't independent of distances. It's "two-dimensional distance". Sometimes this is explicit in units of area, like the square meter, or the square foot. Sometimes it's not explicit, like in a hectare - there's no clue in the unit name itself that it's not a base unit. What's a Watt anyway? It is a derived unit, not a base unit, and it is a unit of power. Power is a rate of energy flow. If that seems unfamiliar just think of speed, which is also a rate. Like with area, some units of speed explicitly show the derivation, like miles per hour. Other units, like knots (used in aviation and in boats, presumably for some historical reasons rather than it being any more or less logical!) don't even hint that speed is not a physical dimension of reality, but a concept derived from distance and time. So power is to energy what speed is to distance - it describes how the latter changes in relation to the former. The unit kWh is simply the amount of energy that flows if it flows at a rate of 1000 Watt for one hour. If we had a distance unit of the same kind, it would be something like the kilo-knot-hour, and it would mean the distance traveled if you went at a thousand knots for one hour. :) It's a clumsy arrangement, because a Watt is an energy flow of 1 Joule per second. So it's kind of like saying "mile-per-hour-hours" instead of simply "mile". It would have been useful if the unit had a better name (maybe one that hides the derivation). But the SI unit of energy, the Joule, is just too small. One kWh equals 3600000 Joule, or 3.6 MJ (megajoule), as you can easily calculate: 1000 W = 1000 Joule per second. Since an hour is 60 minutes and a minute is 60 seconds you get 3600 s * 1000 J/s = 3.6 MJ. Unless you are ok with saying that it's about two hectares to walk to the grocery store, learn the difference between energy and power, and use the appropriate unit. The Ioniq has about double of 60 kW peak power. A 60 kWh Ioniq really would be awesome though.

@OneGuyPolitics

5 ай бұрын

The Ioniq 6 is basically just that but I doubt it’s anywhere near as efficient

Thanks for the great "real world" videos. I really enjoy them. My Ioniq BEV gets delivered tomorrow, possibly the first in private hands in Australia. I can' wait to try it out in our "real world"... which is much warmer than yours :)

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Congrats! That’s great :) Yes... here I was about to do a video something like, ‘is an electric car the best place to be in the cold?’ It’s since rained for about a week so I’ve had to postpone that ;)

@clayton4115

4 жыл бұрын

David, what typical range are you getting in Australia?

@crannaford

4 жыл бұрын

@@clayton4115 around town I get 230-250km comfortably. Nearer 200km on the open road unless conditions are extreme, then I'd plan on 190km. I have a Tesla Model 3 also now, both are great.

@clayton4115

4 жыл бұрын

@@crannaford ok that's good my 28 Ioniq will be arriving in a week or so. Looking forward to driving her.

@crannaford

4 жыл бұрын

@@clayton4115 Oh that's great. You'll love it. They're a great car indeed.

5.8 miles/kwh :-O that's really impressive! Can't wait to get a Ioniq, if all goes well I will buy a used one privately in 2 weeks. Any tips on how to check the battery without access to special tools?

@ZeroTailpipe

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure, sorry. There are apps now that will report on this, but you’d need to plug in a dongle

I'll be honest, I got a tear in my eye as you went under Stockport Viaduct. My old home town. I have a 30kwh LEAF which is almost perfect for 95% of my driving. The only 2 niggles I have is on my frequent Airport runs (I live 135km from Bordeaux Airport and my kids visit us in SW France). (niggle 1) The range is frustratingly not enough (niggle 2) Chademo charging is quite difficult to find. I think a used 38kwh Ioniq addresses those 2 niggles. (1) The range would get me there and back (2) CCS charging makes it less stressful to go on longer trips. Having said that, Tesla Model 3s are hitting the used market in decent numbers now. The Standard Plus with LFP battery is very tempting. It means a 100% battery can be available on the drive every morning. What's not to love about that?

Thanks for helping me choose an Ioniq! 5.8 miles per kWh at this temperature and speed is very impressive. I would not expect better than 5 miles/kWh on mine with these parameters. Also, because the energy curve is not linear (less energy in the lower third as voltage goes down) the pro-rata'd 160 mile range may be a little on the generous side?

@ZeroTailpipe

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome. I think you’re right on the 160. I was less aware of the non-linear bar scale at this time. That’s likely an over-estimate, except in the most ideal conditions and at low average speed

Catching up on your vids even though I've watched most of them before, you could have run the heater as well I'd say and still got back without an issue with no charging and besides those Ecotricity chargers who knows if they would have worked or not based on things I've heard from others on the reliability of that network. Luckily now there are more choices available in the UK such as Instavolt which are more reliable. Your kids are great!! I've got two as well but older, now teenagers actually or scarily enough. You should see if you can get a hold of a press car to do some testing with in Denmark, be it Ioniq, e-208, DS3, Zoe 50, etc I know you've done some earlier when you arrived but didn't have them for too long plus since then I think some other options have appeared.

@ZeroTailpipe

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. When things settle a bit here I may try GoMore or dealers for some test drives... for now everything is still quite restricted...

That average speed is interesting. I tend to keep tabs on such details when we travel (a habit because of working in traffic surveys for some years). On a number of runs across the country to North Wales, we've passed to the South of Manchester at similar, and sometimes slightly faster, average speeds, whilst avoiding motorways. We've found that motorway journeys are often slower, and the journey distances are shorter on A and B roads. Thanks Duncan.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I managed quite a long leg by diverting to a ‘slower’ route (>100 miles using 94% to 36%) recently to avoid going ‘faster’ via motorway but having to do another charge. Video about it coming soon...

Looked like easy to make :) No worries!

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. True. The farther I got into the trip the more confident I became that it was all going to be alright ;)

@GSino

5 жыл бұрын

@@ZeroTailpipe Anyway, it was nice video to watch! I am an vw e-up owner in Greece

Best part of the video is you showing your kids that disgusting polluting combustion engine bus tail pipe... they will hate petrol, diesels for sure now and concisely more when, grown, and that’s a good thing.... no tail pipe 👍

I almost bought this car since it is so efficient and has a lot of features for the price but I needed a bit more range. I have an M3, but everytime I see an Ioniq on the road I take a second look. Love the look of the car.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Cool :)

@computerbob06

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love a BMW M3, wow!

The Ioniq is very efficient, and this will help reduce already low running costs. It's an easily overlooked important characteristic but will be important as more EVs add pressure on electricity supplies.

@WelcomeToDERPLAND

2 жыл бұрын

I wish more brands would come out with sedan style electrics; it feels like every new EV is a Hatchback/SUV style car and that just kills the efficiency.

I’d be interested to know if your seat edge is starting to wrinkle where you get in and out. I’ve done about the same mileage as you in my ioniq ev and noticed wrinkles on my leather seat where my right leg rests. Great videos!

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Hmm... Possibly. I will have a look then try to show it in a future video :)

With that trip, and still a good amount of battery left i get jealous of owning a 24kwh Leaf. Just bought it but can already see after first trip with -2 that i must charge at school or else i can’t get home. In summer there’s no problem at all.. but already looking at Ioniq and soul’s

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I sympathise. I did 3+ years in our old LEAF with a 70 mile round trip commute. I always had to charge at work or at the way home. It became harder after EVs became more popular at work and they also starting leasing EV post vans at work. My schedule became overly dictated by finding a charging spot at work - especially in cold weather. Was very happy to switch to the IONIQ :)

@AlainSylvestre

5 жыл бұрын

@@ZeroTailpipe great video. But You compare a 24 kW Leaf but the new one is in 40 kW and the same range that your. I got the Leaf 2019 with 40kW and a got the same number of you here in Canada with the same Temp. But I have to admit that the Ioniq is seem to be more effecient with a baterry less then the Leaf.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. True. This was our previous car. Hence the comparison. I’ve driven the 40kWh LEAF only very briefly (in a previous video). Would be nice to do more testing but I don’t have one to hand sadly...

witch version of Ionq? thanks

Hola, estaría bien repetir la prueba ahora que ya ha pasado más de un año no?

Don't regret getting the Ioniq, it's a very nice car, and I recently did a 2000 mile trip in it without too much trouble. However, I never get more than about 115 mile range out of it - never significantly above 4 miles per kwh. Occasionally it shows more but it always loses that during the journey. The only other Ioniq driver I've met said the same. Don't know if there's something we're doing wrong.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I’m probably just doing lower average speeds. If I was right next to a motorway I suspect my miles per kWh would go down. I got 5.2 miles per kWh just now (today) on a 92 mile round trip - about 24 miles urban/rural, the rest motorway. About 38% battery left when I got home.

Another great video. Nice efficiency too. On the subject of the Auto Demist System. I'm not sure if there's a fault on our IONIQ as it seems to have a mind of its own when the weather is damp. I will be blowing warm air and then for no reason, (screen not misted) it will blow hard on the screen and with cool air. Not great. In addition to that, quite often I hear a fan located under the bonnet spin up really fast, so fast that I can feel the vibration through the steering wheel, then I hear a loud hiss, like a rapid escape of high pressure gas. Have you experienced anything like this. Doesn't sound right to me.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Hmm... When warming the A/C up in the cold and seeing 3kW -ish energy levels I do get the loudness and vibration. It can sound and feel like a petrol engine. I’ve not had the random cold air spurts though. Or the hiss sound. Difficult to say. Perhaps get it looked at under warranty...?

In fact, it would have been possible to avoid that long detour from Knutsford service station to get northbound again by using the service road instead. That takes you within 100 yards to the main road - left turn - and then enter the north side of the services by the service road there. A detour of a few hundred yards to get northbound again. Lots of people do that if the Ecotricity units are in use or not working to charge at the other two units on the other side.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Useful to know :)

Please, can you say what regen you where using on the high speeds ("coasting as much as possible"). Good video. Tjank you.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Level 0 is no regen and allows coasting when there is a slight downhill stretch. I find it easier to do on lower speed roads but it is possible on downhill highway sections too.

Is this the 28kwh or 38kwh version ?

Hi Duncan , have very much enjoyed your posts. I was scheduled to drive from London to Holyhead last week in my Ioniq and was alarmed to find that Zap Map was reporting issues on the Ecotricity chargers both on M40 and M6 so I took the train ! My son who also went to Holyhead the next day in his filthy diesel reported that he called in at the service station that was to be our first stop for a much needed charge and he said that there were Out of Order signs on both the machines, having told all my friends what a fantastic car the Ioniq is , I am now eating humble pie !! Any ideas or suggestions as to the solution .

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Ecotricity chargers being down have at times sunk my travel plans too. It’s worth trying other networks, Instavolt contactless chargers, free Pod Point rapids and so on... Not as convenient locations as EH but otherwise good, sometimes better...

I've seen precisely 1 Hyundai Ionic EV in Sydney over the past month. My friend saw a Tesla a couple of weeks ago. That's it. Zero governmental support for EVs here in Australia because we don't have any coal, sunshine or wind to make electricity with.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

It’s been ages since I’ve seen another fellow IONIQ EV here too... quite a few of the IONIQ Hybrid... and I’ve seen the PHEV in a showroom here...

@yggdrasil9039

5 жыл бұрын

I test drove the full EV a month ago and it was wonderful to drive. But they are $55000 here, so that's probably why not a lot of them on the roads.

@ursodermatt8809

5 жыл бұрын

@@yggdrasil9039 the ioniq elite is 55'000$, the premium 50'000$ only with onroad included

@yggdrasil9039

5 жыл бұрын

True, I think the base model EV is $49k.

I've got the old Leaf, in that you can turn fan on without using heater or AC. That should be possible in Ioniq as well. I often drive without heater or AC on, even in negative C. Sometimes fogging, but normally with 2-4 dots on the fan it's no problem. Yes, that trip in one charge with the old Leaf would have to be either with very hard tailwind going both ways, or doing 40-50 km/h all the way with strong range anxienty the last... 170 km or so.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I did a few 500-600 mile round trips in our old LEAF. It was just over years old with 30,000+ miles on it when it went back. I was still doing fairly regular 400 mile round trips but it felt like it was getting harder. I found I could use just the fan at times. Perhaps it’s the humidity here. It seemed to most up more than I’d have liked :)

@rab6121

5 жыл бұрын

How do you do that?

Hi, we're looking at this type of car now. We have found a 2019 model Hyundai Ioniq for NOK 200,000. The car will be used as car no. 2 to and from work. about 50 km daily ++. Is it a good car and can you recommend it.

@ZeroTailpipe

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s still a good option - especially as it can rapid charge well and I think the batteries have good longevity. I can’t comment on whether that particular one is a good price sorry, as I don’t know the local context

@EspenJohan

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZeroTailpipe I just got one, really happy with it. Good enough range and good to drive.

"It's about five degrees centigrade..." Crickey that sounds bitterly cold to an Australian...

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

;)

@person2186

4 жыл бұрын

We get minus 5 degree Celsius in April some of the time here in south east Europe.

Wish I could afford the Ioniq, I went for a used 30kw leaf. Painful that Ioniq has a smaller battery and can go further than my car.. jealous

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

We luckily got our IONIQ second hand. Couldn’t have stretched to a new one at the time... even less so at the moment... Hopefully prices will go down over time but there’s still the very limited availability too...

@kjartanbergtorsson5664

5 жыл бұрын

Hi, the leaf uses 27 kwh of the 30 stated, ioniq uses 28 kwh of a 31 kwh battery.

Do you ever backdraft behind trucks (safely, obviously) to save power? And what do you mean by coasting? In an ICE manual I used to have that meant taking the car out of gear on a hill, in a Prius this means putting your foot about halfway down on the accelerator, is that the same in the Ioniq? Or is there a coasting mode?

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can use the adaptive cruise control to draft. I don’t like not being able to see the road ahead, so I don’t do that much. Setting Level 0 with the flappy regen paddles allows coasting. I’ve made some videos showing it: m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/fIGFmNqfdpvSj5M.html And... m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZ5ku7WNfNa2k9o.html

@yggdrasil9039

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Astonishing range. Last Saturday I drove motorway for 100 miles at 75mph in 40kw leaf.Temp was about 5 degrees c. That was it, 100 miles, low battery warnings etc. On the way backI drive at 110mph -69 mph and got 180km - 105miles from 90% charge. Seems 10kph-6mph faster is about 15% less efficient. I read somewhere that at 100kph a tesla model s consumes 20kWh per 100km, at 120kph it consumes 30kWh per 100km and at 140kph this is 40kWh per 100km. Ioni q is very imoressive.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. This was the first time I’d pushed it over 100 miles in one charge, I think. I’ve seen high GOM numbers this Summer but not stretched it. Usually doing shorter legs between rapid chargers on longer runs.

@leneanderthalien

5 жыл бұрын

explanation is aerodynamics: Tesla model 3 as a excellent drag coefficient of 0.23, Ioniq 0.24, but the Leaf as a bad 0.28 so need much more power to drive on highway/countryroads...

This car with a 40 or 60 kW battery will be an awesome car. Good days coming ahead for Evs. Hyundai and kia are introducing lovely Evs.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely :)

@leneanderthalien

5 жыл бұрын

yes, but the Ioniq conception is not electric only (battery is under the trunk), so impossible to put a bigger battery like on a car with battery in the chassis like Tesla, Zoe,Leaf...so the Ioniq need a big modification from the structure for this..

The Ioniq has a lot going for it. It just needs a bit more range to make it the perfect EV. It’s just been released here in Australia this week (December 2018) but I think it will struggle to convince Australians to buy it, even city dwellers. A 350 km range would see Australians flocking to their Hyundai dealers, me included. But 230 km just doesn’t do it for me.

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

True. Same in the U.K. really. Extra 50-75 miles would go a long way to improve its usability... :)

Well you have just confirmed what we Ioniq drivers know, that our cars are super efficient. I have always find the mileage estimate to be very accurate, certainly when I got the turtle the other week it was spot on ahhhhhhhhhhhhh. I am going from Brighton to Nottingham next week and I gave "A Better Route planner" a try, it had me stopping to charge 4 times. So I will stick with my Zap Map route that allows for just one stop with a possible second depending on how its going. Stay warm

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Great, thanks :)

Hi, may I ask? Have you noticed any battery degradation on the car? Whats your current mileage and range on a full charge?

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. No noticeable degradation. 150-160 miles indicated range right now in dry 20C weather :)

@k238908

5 жыл бұрын

@@ZeroTailpipe Im not sure if your aware of this but the car is getting a 39kwh upgrade as of september 2019. I think the old one is fab, saw one online go for £8400 with 2000 miles on the clock. Just had a scuffed bumper. I want one :)

Hi, can’t find any way to comment on KZread videos? Question I have, the Ioniq video featuring range shows a range at 100% of 140 miles, my Ioniq at full charge is 126 miles (learnt this is 90%) why is this and how do I set to do 100% Charge? 🤔

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

The maximum estimated range will vary based on your particular driving conditions (elevation, wet, dry, cold, warm) and driving habits (speed, amount of cabin heating/cooling used, length of journey etc). My figure varies depending on what driving I’ve been doing and between colder and warmer seasons. I’ve seen 170 miles maximum in a dry, 25C summer and down to 120 or so in -5C or lower. Sorry I don’t know any way to charge above the indicated 100%. The spare capacity above that is a buffer against battery degradation from new over time. It’s not accessible to the user, as far as I know. I hope this helps?

@patrickh7368

5 жыл бұрын

Zero Tailpipe thank you, presently 5 degrees and both 7kw charging finishes at 125 miles range. Using the Zap-Map calculator I can get 125mikes if I set to 90% but 100% gives 140 miles, similar to your range test journey, as though I need to dial in 100% on a dash setting, Also your testing of transmission button pressing whilst on the move answered a question for me just at the stage of purchase, thanks again, hey the Ioniq is a fabulous car 😊

I almost shure I gonna buy this car, think about renault zoe 2019, or the new mg zs ev , for the money, you get so much more car in this, hyundai also in the top of the world of the most reability brand, so I think you get insanely much in this car.

I'm an Uber driver. When temperature is in the teens in Ottawa I can get 265 km. And I've done it on one charge. The ioniq is a really great car but just has some minor things that annoy me and what makes the top of the list is the lack of application support at least here in Canada and I'd wish they would update the software to include the features that the Kona has like the speed limit in the dash and the ability to limit the charge percentage

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Great to hear you get that range :) I agree. App support and KONA like software updates would be really welcomed here too...

@bederhajali

5 жыл бұрын

@@ZeroTailpipe maybe we should start an online petition

@RobertArrowsmith

5 жыл бұрын

I am an Uber driver in Australia and want to buy an Ioniq. $55k on road here.

@bederhajali

5 жыл бұрын

@@RobertArrowsmith wait for the e Niro or Kona. E Niro is better.

hi from Ukraune! i want to by ioniq, so could you say something about battery degradation?

@ZeroTailpipe

4 жыл бұрын

Not experienced it personally. I think it can happen at very high mileage.. or if the battery has not been cared for...

Tell the kids the internet says hi!

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

I thought this car only gets 200 km range from fully charged...yours says 236 km fully charged

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yes the USA EPA combined rating is 124 miles (200 km). But it’s very dependent on speed, terrain, temperature etc. It’s possible to get more at lower speeds and mild conditions. This past Summer in 25C sunny conditions I even saw 170+ miles (274 km) estimated range at 100%. There are some hypermiling videos online with higher numbers than that too.

@mikemastroianni6393

5 жыл бұрын

@@ZeroTailpipe good to know thank you so much for the information.

Miles? I was of the impression that the UK used kilometers, not miles?

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Strangely, yes, we still use miles. We have a weird metric/imperial mix here...

@leneanderthalien

5 жыл бұрын

@@ZeroTailpipe brits was always a world appart...see the breaksit story now...But the USA are much better: officialy are the USA full metric sinze 1975, but in reality... not...so whe see ridiculous things like the loss from the Mars climate orbiter in 1999 : work on metric like ALL scientific systems in the world , but Lookeed Martin use imperial in they software...

Ioniq is efficient because excellent aerodynamics, so ironicaly, except Tesla, close all electric cars are SUV's or sommeting and have very bad aerodynamics...

Have u bought a car yet?

@ZeroTailpipe

2 жыл бұрын

Nope

Keeping up with “traffic” is no reason to drive fast and inefficiently. Have a plan as to an efficient speed and let the foolish speeders move on. Thanks

@ZeroTailpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. True :)