Which poker player do YOU most like to see on TV?

@it5221

10 ай бұрын

*I LOVE WHEN FASCIST LITHUANIAN PIGS LIKE B1TCH G SUFFER*

@chrisko6439

10 ай бұрын

There are so many, but I will choose my favorite poker youtubers this time: Bart Hanson and Jonathan Little.

@yoniker83

10 ай бұрын

Can you talk more about rampage's bet on the river? (Other than "leveling game"). To my understanding, a bet's goal is to get value from weaker holdings or deny equity(bluff) from stronger hands. Literally the only value hand that Rampage can beat is J9, as any other Jx would win (Aj,Qj,Kj chops,JT) and TT beats him as well. So it's def not true that "over 50% of the time when your opponent calls you are good" in this case. Also better hands never ever fold for a potsize bet. So what's the point? Is this literally a random click of 100K$?

@CatherineReardon

10 ай бұрын

Wolfgang, D-Negs, Rampage

@jacobc8019

10 ай бұрын

Hey Jonathon you are a legend my friend. We sincerely need to see some Tony G vs Nik Airball: Nik would go on mega tilt every time 😂

Tony G looks healthier now then he did 20 years ago, he must’ve got on his bike 🚲

@DONK2

9 ай бұрын

😂

Tony G : "He doesn't deserve an applause. He called with King Jack!"

Sitting at Home playing micros I think Tony should ship a Million 😂

@slowery43

9 ай бұрын

not even a little funny, huge fail

@zaiharris8509

5 ай бұрын

it was funny @@slowery43

Against rampage call. Against the rest of the world fold.

@markd9318

10 ай бұрын

This is the way

@robertspony9156

10 ай бұрын

Exactly

@andrewadami3920

10 ай бұрын

That is exactly the image that Rampage wants. He's gonna get PAAAAID.

@jaeshbalachandran5766

10 ай бұрын

There is nuance to poker and not every spot is the same. If you blindly just call rampage everytime in spots where there are no natural bluffs you are torching money.

@denniskrook2925

10 ай бұрын

@@jaeshbalachandran5766 my answer was a joke:) i also dont fold always against the rest of the world

I would have stood up and yelled "I OWN YOU!"....lol

i actually really like a bluff raise from tony G, he's holding super relevant blockers for fullhouse! It's very clear that calling here is the worst action here, not only because we know the cards but we're really never showing up with worse than trips given the action. However, rampage's range can be pretty narrowed down to trip jacks on the flop. I think we would prefer to have something like AA or KK to bluff catch since we block the strongest jacks (AJ and KJ) and also straights.

Ugh they keep letting Nic Airball play ? 🤮

He simply has to call against a maniac there.. especially with a straight blocker.

I am a calling station😂 Glad the conductor agreed!

if he bumped it up on turn, he's maybe not getting a call on river

Ohhhh thats so rough. I can hear Tony G lauging in his head... "this guy is bluffing what I actually have. Perfect" never expecting jack #4 to be chilling with a king across the table. 😂 I love Tony G when he his having a good time. Those old episodes of The Big Game are epic, some of the best Tony G you will ever see. I wish I was rich enough to play his "I don't care, lets just has fun" style.

Raise for value is out of question. I don't like to bluff raise here also because we seems too good. But if we are too good to bluff then we are too good to fold also. So a call seems appropriate.

As an Australian, I'm fckn disappointed, even gutted, by our boy's "check, call". So with a check then R's pot sized bet, yeah, in the muck it goeth bro. 😥 _Reckon the Queen gave BOTH players a chance to get away from non-nut trips._ _If Tony pulled the trigger first for $50k it could've drawn a call...it worked on the turn...save $50k...imho._

@masktuxedo77

9 ай бұрын

Unless it's a bet fold, I don't think it should work. A block bet here would induce a raise from R for sure. R would not think AK or any full house would bet that small, so would likely raise for value.

He’s playing the ten queen as his kickers so if he thinks rampage has a jack, then he could chop. So calling him would be appropriate.

I remember when Ramage was so green and on a losing streak thinking he wasn't cut out for poker-lol.....he sure has come a long way

@TheTiltedOne

6 ай бұрын

he lost over 800k last year.

“Yeah that’s what I am, sure!” 😂😂😊

Call, knowing damn well I’m beat but I am a calling station…

Could rampage call here if Tony bumps it up to, lets say, 450k?

@30jmcnamara

9 ай бұрын

That's what I'm wondering. Man that would've been so sick to see Tony ship a huge reraise!

I think that the only hand that Rampage could have on the river that Tony can beat would be Ace Queen of spade or King Queen of spade.

Im so confused. I just recently watched another video from you talking about how to calculate pot size bets. But now here it's referred to as a bet as high as the pot again and not the 3xlast bet+1 for every limper+rest in the pot. Or is the difference Pot size and Pot sized?

@XxConranxX

10 ай бұрын

If you use that formula, it works out exactly the same in this other situation you're talking about. There's 114k in the pot. It's on the river and Tony didn't bet, so the last bet is 0, and there are 0 limpers. (3 * 0) + 0 + 114k = pot sized bet is 114k. An easier way to think about it is that formula is only useful if there has been action on the current street. If there's been no action, pot sized just means what's in the pot currently.

@mortuc1

10 ай бұрын

yeah that totally makes sense, thx a lot! @@XxConranxX

What brand of playing cards are they using?

Looks like tony gone have to get on his bike

Tony G should have bombed the river by overbetting. It is definitely part of his arsenal 😅

easy to say reading knowning the holdings...Based on Rampages image ...TG should just call see the bad news.

Rampage played it well, but Tony G loses to a lot of hands. AK (not likely), J10, QJ, KJ, or AJ. Not sure why he called.

Question how do you approach a 100Bb start tournament with 30min levels?

People talk about making sick river bluffs in spots like these but hardly anyone actually does it.

Is it an option to just be a poker coaching premium member for one month to try it out or do I need to subscribe for a longer period of time?

Push it all and throw a fit

On your bike Tony!

Against Ethan i think it's a call. Raising is lighting money on fire. Against other people i could mix in some folds for sure but imo it's a call

Stars 0.01/0.02 it's a fold i reckon on the river.

It's your vlog, but would have preferred less commentary.

this is clearly a cooler, poor Tony man. Set against set with a king kicker? Rough spot.

I had a hand like this jt v j9 in a final table heads up against the biggest nit. I turned a full house and forced him all in on the river

Can you talk more about rampage's bet on the river? (Other than "leveling game") To my understanding, a bet's goal is to get value from weaker holdings or deny equity(bluff) stronger hands. Literally the only value hand that Rampage can beat is J9, as any other Jx would win (Aj,Qj,Kj chops,JT) and TT beats him as well. So it's def not true that "over 50% of the time when your opponent calls you are good" in this case. Also better hands never ever fold for a potsize bet. So what's the point? Is this literally a random click of 100K$?

@leekwitscher7073

10 ай бұрын

the range of Tony G doesnt contain hands like TT or AJ

@yoniker83

10 ай бұрын

@@leekwitscher7073 Since he bet small turn check river maybe not TT, but AJ? Of course yes. And that's assuming Tony is straightforward and never traps.

@leekwitscher7073

9 ай бұрын

@@yoniker83so you think tony g will just call a rfi from mariano, late position vs late position?

@yoniker83

9 ай бұрын

A=@@leekwitscher7073 Absolutely he might, yes. AJo and TT in GTO are pure flat HJ vs BB (I realize this is a straddle vs HJ so UTGish but it's similar enough) when it's 100BB deep. Deeper I suppose TT mostly 3-bets as it's a good implied odds hand, but sometimes call. AJo still pure calls deeper.

CR bluff - 475-550k or fold. I can't find a call here. Flop action speaks to Rampage having AJ, KJ, QJ, TT (unlikely), 89, K9, AK, AQ. Only QJ (which is more in TG's range) or TT can call a big river CR. I hate calling and losing to str8 or KJ/AJ. Also, all of TG's river blather looks SUPER Hollywood when accompanied by a large raise.

The Q is even worse than the draws getting there. KJ is now beat by EVERY good Jack. AJ, QJ, J10 all beat. Add that to the draws that just got there, and Rampage is now beat by more likely cards than he beats, by my count. A10, K10, KQ, what else is he up against that would call the flop 3 bet AND lead out the turn?

Got a free roll here in like 5 hours. Trying to sharpen up for November

Its a tough one. Id probably throw in the calling chips though

@wheresmymoneydenny

10 ай бұрын

I’d prob fold river but that’s also an indicator that in exploitable in these exact situations when he doesn’t have it….it’s close enough that he wasn’t really wrong either way

Poker plays with your mind, then it gets brutal. Play at your peril.

I think I internally scream and cry and have a tantrum. Extrernally I just fold and then start leaning hard into the tilt to get paid off on my next monster hand for the max.

My experience says never call river big bet like this, because you can win only if your opponent bluff. GTO says 23% time if you can win is ok call.

Nobody can bit Rampage

I would have thought a 1/2 or 2/3 pot would be better river bet sizing.

They both have qj in their range, so they both hated that river initially.

I had my trip Js dominated last week. I foolished walked right into it. I 3 bet early. And villain stuck around with 98 I just played bad after flop I had nothing and I turned J and rivered the 3rd J. His hand was made on the turn I definitely learned a lot

Not possible to ship, unless tony had J10 which is doesnt, even then - still just a call. Im leaning towards fold - cuz of the 3 bet on flop.

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I don't like calling because I think he loses to value and the best candidates for a bluff 3bet on the flop are straight draws, especially broadway gutshots like AK or AQ, and they all make some kind of hand now. So the only bluffs that make sense to me would be things like 87ss or A5ss (spades to call the turn bet), and I don't think there's enough of them. Bluff-raising the river is an option but I'm putting Rampage on a very strong range, and in my games I avoid trying to make my opponents fold trips & straights. Also, in my understanding that play works best when the villain also has plenty of bluffs that would fold.

@jonathanhenderson9422

9 ай бұрын

That's a pretty great board for Rampage range. He's going to have a lot of value hands which means he's going to need a lot of bluffs to balance them. If he's only semi-bluffing then he's way underbluffing there. In GTO semi-bluffing isn't even really bluffing because you usually have such high equity. Actual bluffing with low equity hands is what balances your value range and you should be doing that more on boards that favor your range.

Put a bluff, representing, JT or QJ. It might work to get Rampage of his hand. 1 mil is not an easy call on that board

Hard to think even a major punter like rampage is still value betting a hand like AA or KK on that river after 3 betting flop. Bluffs are also almost impossible to find on that Q river. Gotta let go of J9 if you are Tony G.

Interesting hand all the way around. One thing I wondered - when Rampage bets this river, what is he expecting to get called by? With so much action earlier in the hand, and the board runout, Rampage loses to so many of Tony's value hands, yet I see very few hands as played that would call, AND that Rampage beats. Given that Rampage is a world class player, and I am not, I am sure there must be a very good reason for Rampage's river bet, yet I am unable to see it.

@larryl2406

10 ай бұрын

I dont think it was necessarily for value. He's repping JT, TT, QQ, AK. He was disguising his bet to look like he's seeking value from from AT, AQ, KQ, KJ, AJ, K9, 89 while actually wanting folds from all but the first three.

@iamamish

10 ай бұрын

@@larryl2406 a value bluff? Maybe, but I don't think so.

Tony is kicking himself for not donk leading river for 50k

Call. Think I have to unfortunately with no spades so villain has all the missed flush draws.

I would just call, I think Tony is gonna raise.

Nik is just a dude having fun. That's why so much of the table ignores him.

I think Ethan is intelligent enough to realize trying to bluff Tony G is lightning money on fire. Trying to use his bluff against weak passive Hanz in a 3way pot as well. 2 completely different spots, not even close to same situation. In these spots placing a player on a specific hand will lose alot of value. When Tony G in Bb or straddle, he can have any suited J and j9 j8 maybe j7 off. So there are many more j combos rampage can beat, that Q was prob the worst card to see psychologically

Fold. What hands is he he beating?

I disagree with Rampage's large river bet. How many hands is he beating that can also call a large river bet. J9 is the only one. Every other J is beating him, AK and 89 get there. slowly played 10's, Q's might be played like Tony G played it. There is literally one hand that can call that he is ahead of. Maybe a strangely played AQ or Q10 that tried to bluff catch.

thats a tough call. i think blocking the straight and unblocking spades, you probably have to find a call here, but idk its prob close yea?

@jj18057

10 ай бұрын

The spades are irrelevant with the action as played

@Masoch1st

10 ай бұрын

​@@jj18057 I wouldn't say irrelevant. You can weight them lower as they are backdoor, but busted draws are always relevant. A9ss could play this way, maybe 910ss or a10ss. 89ss. There's definitely some combos that can show up here

tony g has to call on that river. Rampage could easily have a bluff, two pair, etc. just a cooler

Can't take anymore, gn

If Tony jams there rampage would have folded

@Bozogumps

9 ай бұрын

I'm not so sure

common rampage w

Bas River call by og tony g

You say you love Rampage's river bet?!? I disagree. It is targeting exactly one hand: J9. The fact that this is the one hand that Tony G. happens to have is irrelevant. There are no worse hands than J9 which are going to call, and all hands better than Rampage's are going to call. AJ, QJ, JT, TT are all in Tony G's range, and there are lots more of those than hands that Rampage beats and will call.

Dirty boi 😂

The river Q is a great bluff card. But Rampage is calling an all in for sure.

@Deltoro19

10 ай бұрын

You really think Rampage would call an all in? I dont. Too many Full houses out there and rampage doesn't even beat a straight.

@jefferyford1242

10 ай бұрын

@@Deltoro19 he is know to punt.

THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T CALL A RAISE WITH J9 OFF. DESERVED IT

I mean Rampage also didn't play too good considering so many cards could've beaten him. He got lucky.

Why is Tony playing J9o UTG anyways? 🤷

@conorm2524

10 ай бұрын

Those televised games are all about loose play. If you're too tight you won't be asked back.

I, a very bad poker player, am thinking about it like this, from Tony G's perspective on the river (because I'm trying to train a poker brain here): What could Rampage be betting that I am beating? I think the answer is something like KK+ or maybe some AQ or KQ (because they block the nut straight) or maybe A10? I think I could talk myself into A10 based on the action on the flop. Hard to imagine Rampage has trips - that's low probability for sure. AK is interesting though...does AK raise the flop here? Feels...brave. KK+ might for protection, or maybe A10 - I think raising the flop says "made hand", not a draw, and certainly not a gutshot...I guess KQ might raise flop though... So ok, what are Rampage's bluffs? Mid pairs maybe? I dunno, feels like 66 probably wants to check-fold here. And then, I think KQ could be...I mean, that's still top pair, so maybe? But why turn top pair into a bluff? The big problem, as mentioned, is the absolute cascade of stuff that has you beat that might play like this - 1010, QQ, AK - even 33 might play pre/flop like this LAG...maybe, targeting flop draws like AK. Idk, it's easy to say "I'd fold" when I know what the other guy has. it's a tough spot.

@Markus8237

10 ай бұрын

AT would fold the turn I guess. And only raise the flop sometimes, so hardly discounted (maybe 1/4 of the 12 combos, so 3). Trips is no low probability, if KJo is in there, theres also AJ, QJs, JTs. AK would maybe sometimes raise the flop as a bluff, but fold the turn since now its a plain Gutshot (no FD). KK I would argue for not in rampages 3bet flop range, since he would want to keep QQ, AT in Tonys range and calldown then. KQ could be, but only suited, so 4 combos, discounted to 2 imho. And you're right, why turn KQ into a bluff?

@jonathanhenderson9422

9 ай бұрын

Rampage is never, ever betting KK/AA or AQ/KQ on that river; not after the action on the previous two streets where Tony G heavily polarized his range. The fact is that J9 is a bluff-catcher on that river; it's not a value beater. Rampage either has nothing here or he has TT, JT, QJ, KJ, AJ, or AK. That's Rampage's value range. Considering his value range is ~45 combos he needs ~22 bluff combos to make Tony G indifferent to calling/folding the river. Depending on how Rampage constructed his bluff range early on he may not have ended up with many "bluffs" on the river at all. If he had included hands like suited Aces and low pairs he should be using them. Also, "protection" is not a thing in poker theory. There's such a thing as equity denial, but that comes when you make your opponent fold hands they have outs with. Something like a straight draw is never folding so KK gains no protection; it just inflates the pot with a decent but far-from-nutted hand on that board. Also, Rampage should absolutely be raising some draws on that flop, as well as some great hands and pure bluffs. That's how you balance your range.

Close your eyes and throw in the $110k . I dont like it but I have enough chips behind to find out I am beat.

@chrisko6439

10 ай бұрын

The thought of "having enough chips behind if I am beat" obviously has no place in a cash game.

@davidgibbins8812

10 ай бұрын

@@chrisko6439 Most likely right and yes I play tournaments mostly. But in this situation calling still leaves $1m behind. Its not as if he is calling 50% or more of his stack on a hope - its a calculated 10% call

I actually think Rampage played it horribly

@PokerCoaching

9 ай бұрын

Honesty is important.

As I was watching this on the live stream, I was amazed that Rampage raised that much. That looked pretty bluffy. I was also amazed that Tony G was timid on his earlier raises. I kind of remember Tony having a couple of beats earlier in the stream. But if anyone could one up Tony on aggressive play, it is Rampage. The $110 almost pot size bet was wonderful sizing. It screamed bluff.

Cool

Why'd you feel it necessary to add your commentary on top of the Hustler Casino commentary?!? Seemed like you just wanted to here yourself in this video. In the future maybe don't run a simultaneous commentary, pick 1 or the other

@projektxent

9 ай бұрын

Exactly it’s annoying it already has commentary

Sigh call, all day every day.

I agree with calling against Rampage but in this situation there arent really many bluffs there.

Thats why dun play j9o

Assuming he is properly bank rolled for this game I just make the call.

Haha you called me out on this one. I exploit the smaller stakes at my local card room. I love getting in leveling wars, it gets people so defensive and scared. They play very very face up against me. If they raise, I fold. If they’re not raising me, I’m way good.

Duurrr

fold

Fold,

I miss fat Tony G/

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Too much talking

wont watch johnathan again, he talks too much

stop talking

Fold. Ak would worry me