Raid on the Underworld - Odin, Gwydion & Otherworldly Adventures
Across Europe are various tales of gods and heroes entering the underworld. Often this is to obtain knowledge, power, or a woman. Some of these myths, such as Odin and Gwydion, are summarized, discussed and compared.
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I’m surprised Libraries don’t have more of a underworld motif; because like Odin you are raiding the dwelling place of dead men for their knowledge.
@jackmac2217
Жыл бұрын
Ohh I like it. Libraries class as a liminal space imo. They represent the gap between ignorance and wisdom physically and symbolically.
@penelopehill9710
Жыл бұрын
@@jackmac2217 yeah nice perspective Jack . . . Libraries liminnal spaces . . . Librarians guardians of sacred . . .
@johnnyjohnson1326
Жыл бұрын
This is a great comment!!!!
@b_ks
Жыл бұрын
Well said, sir!
The motif survived Christianisation briefly while the harrowing of Hell was canon
The Hellenic Underworld is most fascinating to me... The Greeks have many interesting Myths regarding it!
@penelopehill9710
Жыл бұрын
makes my day too
Currently writing a story with the major motif being this exact topic! thank you for this informative inspiration :)
Always makes my day when a new FoL documentary drops!
@penelopehill9710
Жыл бұрын
same for me
Do you think you might be able to do a documentary of Kerununnos / Cerununnos / The Horned God Of The Hunt? I would absolutely adore that - see what you’ve discovered in regards to research and information 🖤🖤
Thank you so much for your most compelling video Kevin 🌹😎🌻🧙♂️
This Channel just gets better and I have been here from the start
You're very brave having a go at all that Welsh. Kudos.
You and jive keep making all these great vids. But they're so packed with info I have to keep rewinding!
@thehellenicneopagan
Жыл бұрын
Not so crazy about jive, he's to narrow minded and not at all open to different interpretations...
@Son-of-Tyr
Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@Son-of-Tyr
Жыл бұрын
And, yes, StJ is an amazing channel.
Another amazing, information packed offering! Thank you for telling the stories of our ancestors and keeping them alive for current and future generations!
Thank you for doing these videos. I love your voice and I hear the way you pronounce names and places when I do my own research into this now. Thank you for being so through..
Video was, as always, well made and insightful. Well researched and entertaining. This channel and Jive are my two favorite channels that cover these topics. Love that you go in depth and present factual history as well as your own interpretations. Very entertaining. Hope to see more soon.
I really like your content, and you made my day by posting this!
Another well thought out piece of work here. Thank you for the upload.
Great video, all of your videos help to grasp mythic concepts that we definitely need to hear much more of in this age
This was great! Thank you for your time!
I truly look forward to these. Years ago I depleted our local Library's books on this stuff.
I love that you used monty python as one of the opening segments.
What you overlooked about the legend of pwyll is that there are many, many tales in many, many cultures involving raids or theft from the otherworld. Pwyll is fairly unique in that he doesn't steal anything or sleep with arawns wife during his stint stuck in annwfn. So impressed was arawn with pwylls honor that he lifted the curse(blight) on the land and named pwyll and his descendents the chosen people of the island of mighty(Briton/prydain).
Great video, as usual.
i found this refreshing, everyone speaks of the underworld kings the Tu atha, but noone ever talks of the kings of the over world, sons of Mil..
Love it! Thanks!
another very inspirational video
Thank you for this video
My favorite, of course, is Hermóðr. A lot of people overlook how brave and powerful he is. A son of Óðinn and messenger of the gods, he rode Sleipnir to the underworld on behalf of himself and all of the gods in order to compel the Jotunn goddess of death, Hel, to release his brother, Baldr. Balls.
@jessevanhalen6967
10 ай бұрын
Hermóðr may be Óðr. Óðr is the Egill and Gróa. Óðr was sent to Hel to urge Urðr to release Baldr from Breiðablik. Urðr also known as Hel (Snorri conflates her with Leikn) will only let Baldr return if everyone wept for him. Thökk (Loki disguised as a giantess) did not weep for Baldr and thus he remained in Hel until Ragnarok.
Awesome video thanks
On this topic I highly recommend looking into the Medieval Welsh "Preiddeu Annwn" or "Spoils of the Underworld". It's a cryptic Taliesin poem about King Arthur raiding the otherworld, with only 7 men surviving.
@FortressofLugh
Жыл бұрын
Yes I know it. I should have mentioned it
@ASmartNameForMe
Жыл бұрын
Any link as to where I can read it?
Another great video
Thank you so much for this!! Deeply illuminating… just need to figure out how to apply this in my everyday mundane life! ❤️🔥✨
@penelopehill9710
Жыл бұрын
no need to apply my dear one . . . Our mundane lives are a wonder for us all to experience. All required is to click heels together three times like Dorothy in Wizard of Oz and you are home happlily living in mundane world once again.
@aariley2
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's a call for you to spice up your life a little. Get out there and try something new?
Väinämöinen's travels to the underworld is one of my personal faves
I enjoy this.
Brilliant content 🙂 I wonder about those 'underground cattle'. Jordanes in his 'Getica' - History of the Goths - describes their migration from ancient Scandinavian homelands (passage 6, section 25). They describe earthquakes 'that sound like the lowing of cattle' (subterranean soundwaves).
@penelopehill9710
Жыл бұрын
Yeah curious about underground cattle too
@drraoulmclaughlin7423
Жыл бұрын
@@penelopehill9710 Perhaps a connection to Geryon's red cattle - Lugh represented by the Corleck Head? Or Oweynagat in Rathcrogan 🙂
Wow I got into Mr Mythos and of course Robert Sephyer regularly blows my mind,so here I am subscribed and I’m going to bing the hell out of your work. 🏴 and or Celtic legends I’m ignorant as hell about and all these ancient stories. Your very committed you must be,it’s in depth stuff
Manannan Mac Lir
I am writing a novel, and I am surprised of how many occurences we can find, in mythology, about traveling through hell. My character is send on a "death" mission to slay an enemy general, and must pass through a ritual before his departure. He has to give coins to a temple, buy oil for a lamp, and spend the night in the shadow, prying and sleeping, calling upon mythologic figures such as "the mother, who went to hell to find her daughter", "the prince that slew the bull to vanquish darkness", and "the hunter, with his bow and sword, whom is now in the sky". By chance, the setting is in late summer/early autumn, and as he rides to the war, he enters a more and more savage part of the world, far away from civilization. As a symbol, he talks with soldiers who have been accounted as "lost in action", and presumed dead, so they help him in his mission, as he would talk and be helped by ghosts or spirits.
@dagon99
11 ай бұрын
Sounds interesting
Those types of myths are most prominent with the ancient Thracians, Orpheus and Dionysus myths are of Thracian origin like many other myths of this type.
I'd love to know where you find your stock-footage (people in costume, and whatnot).
The underworld seems inescapably to be the antedeluvian world, hence the certainty that powerful demons and advanced knowledge were hidden there. Gilgamesh was looking for the same, but he went across the sea rather than under it to find Noah (Utnapishtim) who gave him the knowledge from before the flood.
I've often heard that Tuireann is a storm god. Do you know of any evidence for this? Some research I'm doing somewhat hinges on this, and I would be very grateful for any pointers.
@Fortunatus144
Жыл бұрын
That’s because of his name, which (likely related to the Gaulish Taranis) is based on the root of thunder
@joshbishop9639
Жыл бұрын
@@Fortunatus144 so it is purely etymological.
The underworld stories are all similar around the world. The Mayan's believe that all bodies of water were the underworld. They called it Chibalba. The also have story of the twin brothers that went to the underworld to seek revenge from the lords of the underworld for tricking their father into a game, whereas their father lost their head. They beat the lords of the underworld and escaped with their fathers head. They hide the head in the dirt, and the next day it has turned into a head of corn. That's their whole mytholy of the underworld and how corn came to be, and how the ball game they played was related to the underworld and sustenance, and the traveling of the constellation of Gemini through the Milky Way. That's why I don't gamble!
@penelopehill9710
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for visiting Mayan Mythology here. Mayans are fabled to have played a sort of soccer game with a head . . . which I found wholely macarbre . . . You've given me an understanding.
Grendel may have originally been a descendant of the Anglo Saxon version of Loki, which could answer why Grendel is said to be the descendant of Cain. Where the recently converted Anglo Saxons conflated the first murderer Cain with Loki because of Loki’s role as the murderer of Baldur. This also explains why Cain’s banishment leads to the giants and ogres in the world as it is Loki who is the progenitor of many monsters.
Grendel was cannibalistic Neanderthal Bigfoot. Demonstrates super Simeon characteristics such as nighttime stalking and inter species predation. I believe they live still, in the way out.
Ahhh...my dessert for later on 🌹🌹🌹🧙♂️
Greetings Sir; who is the actor in frame 6.3? I have seen him in other period works and would like to see more of his acting.
3:27 or an archeologist.
Lot's of parallels to underworld mythology in the resurrection of Christ as well.
@jessevanhalen6967
10 ай бұрын
There is none. Christ is not a pagan god.
No mention of the doom guy?
The narrator really tried 3 accents within 30 seconds of one another in the first 4 minutes of this and failed every one of them
Tomb Raider.
I thought it was pigs that were hunted and eaten afresh each day. I hadn't heard of the goats.
@FortressofLugh
Жыл бұрын
I believe that is said about the dwelling of Oengus
Hail Zeus.Hail Odin
Why do you say it as Ohfin instead of Odin ?
@Dice_roller
Жыл бұрын
Othin* and that’s because that’s how you pronounce his name in Old Norse (and Icelandic): *Óðinn.*
The Bible actually does have a sense of the adversarial relationship between G0D and the giants, dear sir. It’s a thematic tension that runs from Genesis chapter 4 through to the sons of Anak in the conquest of Israel after the Exodus, and all the way through the reign of King David. It’s becoming more and more obvious to me, as I listen to your channel and some others, that the Storylines are essentially the same, but the names and specific actions of the heroes are different depending in part, upon the regional and temporal traditions passed down regarding the ancestors and the gods they followed. The Divide between the Old & the New, between Christianity and all the previous or later traditions, hangs upon a Tree as well, in the Personhood of Yeshua Ha’Moshiack, known today as Jesus Christ. His presence in History does not negate the old ones, nor their accomplishments, but it creates a Standard whereby the followers are able to find solace and solidarity when they have been found otherwise.. powerless. That is the difference in practical terms. The things done in His Name..? He will Judge.. either here through the systems of Time.. or in Heaven or Hell Beyond the Veil. He is the Present Hero to all who call upon His Name. That’s a Relationship.. not particularly a religion, imho, but if all I can do is follow, let it be according to His Words & Example, rather than the regulations of the ones who are now the Scribes and Pharisees who would as soon see me stoned, than extend Forgiveness, regardless of the religious observances they may espouse. Blessings and good fortune. Many thanks. Even so.. MARANATHA! 🍃🍃🤍🍃🍃
@penelopehill9710
Жыл бұрын
doctrine & dogma . . . neither is good nor bad in balance. All Wisdom is found in balance . . . bridging the gap.
Loved your video of me I am Kian reincarnated but Kevin is my true real name they refused to use.
The ancient route language of the Cymru Welsh is obviously not a proto European languages as it has no links to old Germanic or indeed any other old European languages. It's lineage appears to be much older than ancient Roman, Latin and even Greek. The tongue is a living fossil that is the key to translating the most ancient of script's. It came from the near East via the ancient migration route's, to Troy and eventually Britain. This obvious history is much ignored by the echo chamber establishment narrative. Heddwch PEACE.
I know at least about Christianity that it also borrowed the myth of giants they called "Nephelim", correct? Said to be the offspring if angels couple with humans. But then there may be little that Christianity didn't borrow from something else thousands of years older than it. I really enjoy listening to your videos, Kevin. My favorite topics are Celtic Myths but I enjoy listening to all your essays, and the music and visuals are really cool. I will forever think of the hooded man going into the cave as "The Dagda" :D
What a treasure trove of information! Love all your work