May we all have the courage to retain our honor despite being surrounded by sick men, and may we live and die for the Gods and the natural order of things.

Really great work! These world myths are compelling and relevant to our everyday lives and most of all speak to the human spirit of our own heroic journeys and challenges, wonder is one of the prevalent emotions stirred and that is vital in our age.

@firmman4505

2 жыл бұрын

There is no god except Allah, and Muhammad, may Allah's blessings and may peace be upon him, is the messenger of Allah.

We are in need of ragnarok looking at the state of the world and where we are heading. Great video

@marinakaiser7639

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it had alredy began

@marinakaiser7639

3 жыл бұрын

Of course i belive it is a prophecy

@marinakaiser7639

3 жыл бұрын

In a sense

@marinakaiser7639

3 жыл бұрын

End of this world and beginning of the new

@eloisehelewidis4678

3 жыл бұрын

"In need"? I think it's obvious we are in it.

As a norse heathen, I really hope there will be a new beginning in the future Great video btw and bless be with you

@Fortress I am a teacher in Icelandic and a tour guide in Iceland. So I am regurarly sharing my knowledge on this subject amongst other subjects related to Iceland, old and new. I know you know the information I am about to add but if there is a newcomer to Norse mythology or intrested in Iceland this might be interesting. Book tips or places to visit I gladly give. Snorri Sturluson is the one we all should thank. He is still today the main source of norse mythology and one of the most important historian in the western world as the number one authority on norse mythology. He also wrote extensively on the history of the crowns of Scandinavia and is one of the main authorities of the early history of Scandinavia. This is why the Danes, Norwegians and Swedes vacuum cleaned Iceland of manuscripts to get hold of texts that were important for their national pride. If not for his writing they would have little on paper (pergament) on their early history. He was a historian and the speaker/head judge in the Icelandic parliament at Þingvellir. There was a civil war in Iceland during Snorri's time, battles between the dynasties called Sturlungaöld or the Age of Sturlungar (name of one dynasty). Some of the chieftains were supported by the Norwegian crown and they managed to kill Snorri and his supporters surrendered to the other legion of chieftains and everyone had to pledge allegiance to the Norwegian crown. And Iceland was under Norwegian rule for ca 150 years until Norway went under Danmark around 1400. And we stayed there for the next 550 years or so. Einar Kárason, an Icelandic writer has specialized in this period and has written a triology with historical facts, same type of Sturlunga story telling with some liberty to make more of the characters. His books on the period are great but to read original texts about these happenings is the icing on the cake. If not for Snorri's Heimskringla and telling the main Edda poetry, both story plots and the metric they are written this clip wouldn't be possible. The narrator here is reciting a summary of Snorri's text and explanations. His work is so vast and detailed we would know very little and Lord of the Rings never written since it mimicks norse mythology. Visit Reykholt, were he resided or go to the web site of info/tesearch center there. A great place to visit and there are thousands of Norwegians that come on a sort of a pilgrimage to pay him an honour plus a visit to the 'sagaøya' or the 'story island' as they often call Iceland. Two very known Icelandic Sagas were written in the south west region. They don't have an author but Snorri's name pops up. Look it up. The stories are Egils Saga and Laxdæla. Before reading Njála, the jewel of Icelandic literature old and new I would start on Laxdæla which is lighter to read with many memorable characters and has a great story plot.

i can't even tell you how much i love your work

Great job explaining the legends as always! I always learn so much from you! It is interesting how so many prophecies of destruction talk about how at first humankind will turn against itself. Then they usually talk about how because of humankind being corrupted outside forces such as Fenrir, the great serpent, and other children of Loki come to destroy humankind.

The Battle is one that has happened, and will happen again. Fantastic video.

I really like the theory about the second battle of Magh Tuireadh relating to a Celtic Ragnarok of sorts. I believe there's potential there for comparative mythology.

From my research, Dagda is a far more likely cognate of Óðinn. And not just from their identical epithet of 'Allfather'.

Fantastic! 🌟🌟🌟 Great content as always. Looking forward to the next. ✔️

Thank you for all your work. I feel that the best I can do, is be true to my ancestors and my responsibility to live with integrity. Whether I survive Ragnarok or not I pray my way is one of truth and peace and that I live on in the new reality.

I knew you would cover this at some point, I am excited to see if you will mention some of the same things I have been picking up in independently. Let’s see, Olc Amser/Hour of the Wolf to be expected? Hm.

Excellent, thanks bro.

Ragnarøkkr from the Prose Edda seems like just a spelling variant, but it actually has a different meaning, and it's where the term "Twilight of the Gods" comes from.

Great video! I've always wondered if there might have been any connection between Celtic and Scandinavian stories.

@FortressofLugh

3 жыл бұрын

There are a number of connections. My video on the Odin Stone briefly covers another, but perhaps in the future I will do a specific video on various connections

Very interesting! Good video!

Really fantastic vid.

did you take down or private some of your videos? I was looking for your video about why be pagan and I couldn't find it.

Another great video as always. Though, I have a question. If Erdathe is meant to be the Irish/ Celtic equivalent of Ragnarök with Lugh having parallels with Odin and Dagda with Thor (with both gods having differences) do you think there is a Celtic equivalent to Loki? Since he is one of the main gods responsible for Ragnarök. Maybe see some parallels with other gods or Fomorians? Thanks.

@FortressofLugh

3 жыл бұрын

Indech, king of the Fomorians, means "weft, weaving" or something to this effect. There is some evidence to suggest that Loki has a similar meaning or association. There is also the figure of Bricriu in association with the Táin cycle who seems very Loki-like.

@rodturner4589

3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely dispute that Loki is responsible for the acts of evil in the world that precede the Ragnarok. Recall from the Eddas that Loki is bound during this time and cannot act. The evil is purely from the worst of human nature unbound. It is Loki that instigates the great catharsis of Ragnarok and thus destroys the old structures whose time has passed and makes possible new growth.

@some1350

3 жыл бұрын

@@rodturner4589 Ok you're not trying to make some twisted justifcation for Loki's action though are you? You're not trying to argue that Loki isn't evil?

@rodturner4589

3 жыл бұрын

@@some1350 Concerning evil...The Norse saw the Universe as Chaos and Order, not Good and Evil. Loki is certainly the Lord of Chaos but I absolutely maintain that His actions during the Ragnarok had an outcome beneficial to all. Uncomfortable, yes. Evil, no.

@some1350

3 жыл бұрын

@@rodturner4589 What on earth are you talking about? Take you're liberal agenda somewhere else please. Yes the Norse believed in chaos and order but they also believed in evil as well. That's why they had laws and thats why some times they would insult you for behaving in a certain way, if that's not an indication that they belived in evil I don't know what to tell you. Arguing that his actions had benefits to others is an extremely stupid argument. Using you're logic I could argue that rape isn't a bad thing because a woman could get pregnant. Well that rapist isn't evil he's chaotic and the woman did get a child at the end of the process right? Loki is trying to kill the gods who protect mankind and you're arguing he's uncomfortable? Ok I guess if somebody breaks into your house and a member of your family trys to help the burgalars rob the house I guess that family member isn't evil. Do you know how stupid you sound?

you have no idea who you are educating. thank you.

Thank you very much

Excellent video! What is the source of the Morrigan's prophesy?

@FortressofLugh

3 жыл бұрын

2nd Battle of Magh Tuiread

@ASmartNameForMe

3 жыл бұрын

It's in almost all of the texts related to it

@michaelmyers3044

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have it, need to re-read.

somehow a video about the end of the world made me hopeful.

@michelleresistance

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, me too.

Excellent video as always

Another great vid!. One question though, is "Buried" commonly pronounced "Burr-eed" where you live?. No offense intended, I have just never heard it pronounced that way before. Thank you!.

@FortressofLugh

3 жыл бұрын

In Scotland and various regions in England it is pronounced like "hurry". Many people around here who are locals are from a Scottish background and used to say buried as traditionally we would, but lately most people are just influenced by American media "berried"

Perhaps the Morrigan’s prophecy coming true sooner rather than later would be a good thing, given the current condition of the world.

@thegreenmage6956

3 жыл бұрын

No, not yet. We cannot suffer the great destruction, we are not ready. We have nothing to rebuild with, we have to use this time to foster what is needed to maintain our culture when we weather the storm.

@nathanielbables8652

3 жыл бұрын

You sound like Christians and revelation.

@lowlandnobleman6746

3 жыл бұрын

Is that intended as a compliment or a slight? I truly cannot tell.

@nathanielbables8652

3 жыл бұрын

@@lowlandnobleman6746 Definitely not a slight(Christian here), just an interesting observation. Interesting how these beliefs parallel in this way. What are your thoughts on that?

@lowlandnobleman6746

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts on this matter are as follows: I feel that most religions have certain universal truths. That hardship and struggle would be necessary for prosperity is one such universal truth. The Celtic, Germanic, and Christian traditions all have this idea that the dark age would be followed by the golden age. In Celtic tradition, this could be seen as a cycle. Much like nature, in a way. Every year starts with Winter, has Summer in the center, and then ends with Winter, and the cycle goes on evermore. Such is likely how the world works at large, not merely in relation with the seasons. There shall be Dark and Gold ages in cyclical fashion, in much the same way as the seasons are bound by a cycle. Also comparable with a salmon swimming up a stream, reproducing, swimming back down the stream, and then dying. Then the offspring of the salmon swim down the stream, then back upstream again, have more offspring again, and die again. That’s the best way in which I could describe this process.

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People of every age have felt it was the end. Yet humanity and the earth persists. Change has always frightened mankind.

I have a few questions for you. First; is there a resource you could direct me to regarding the prophecy of the Morrigan which you quoted? I would like to read more on this. Second; is there a resource on the welsh myth that you mention? Third; what is the name, I can’t even attempt to spell it, of The Celtic counterpart of Ragnarok? Fourth; where are you from? Your accent is very interesting and I’ve been trying to figure it out for quite some time. I don’t mean when you’re speaking other languages, I mean your English speaking accent. 😎

@FortressofLugh

3 жыл бұрын

My accent is a mix of Ottawa Valley and Saskatchewan slang I think. Honestly, I think everyone wonders where it is from, and occasionally I get insulting comments about it. Sent from the gods I suppose. The Celtic counterpart to Ragnarok is Erdathe. The Morrigan's prophecy that I provided was a condensed version of the whole, available here storyarchaeology.com/the-morrigan-speaks-her-three-poems/ I vouch for this translation and Carmody is very well versed in Old Irish. She has also translated other sections of Cath Maigh Tuiread that are otherwise left out of the English version, which amounts for like a third of the text. I have worked away on other sections that she hasn't done.

@eternaltree2183

3 жыл бұрын

@@FortressofLugh thank you so much. I hope no offense was taken, I did not mean any at all. I just could not figure it out. Thank you for the link. I will do more reading. It was an excellent video. I would love it if you expand more on each of these points. Blessings

*drops very good carving*

Literally.. are we not Here even now? These words may have just as easily been quoted from the mouth of Jesus, as Hesiod. We are living in the very Fabric of our ancestors Tapestry. Every ancient civilization has told of this because every Age Prior recalls their own past, and understands that there is a Destruction.. Kali Yuga.. and Rebirth.. the New Age. The only question is where do each of us mortals choose to place our Hopes of our Future. As Easter rapidly approaches and our Mother Earth is currently Laboring to bring forth our Spring, it is a time for reflection, resolution and restoration of our earthly & Celestial understanding of our selves in the larger Seasons which approach. Our Universe is Much More than we imagine.. and our souls are immortal, regardless of the circumstances of our flesh. Thank you, Kevin. I appreciate your ability to cross the Ages and give us a greater understanding of our Context. My allegiance to Christ is contained within the Holy Spirit which seeks every soul and its own heart's desires towards the Greatest Highest Good.. no matter where our thread begins.. or seemingly Ends. Blessings to you and all you cherish, dear brother. I pray your Easter is a peacefully blessed One. From my House to your own. Your sister. Ricca. 🌬🕊 🌿

@tylerbrooks2492

3 жыл бұрын

Beautifully said ma'am.

@Ricca_Day

3 жыл бұрын

Tyler Brooks Thanks 🙏 angel.

@Ricca_Day

2 жыл бұрын

Gandra Zmaj That makes a lot of sense. Thanks! My Hindi is not very good, but I am looking to Learn as much as possible. Imho.. there's a deeper link between Hindu culture in the East and the Sinai than Victorian culture was comfortable with, and too much was hidden from mature discussion, leaving the women and future generations in the Dark.. while the menfolk indulged themselves "intellectually" in the study of the darkness. But that's just an impression. From my understanding of the Genesis account of Abraham/Abram (? Brahama?), the last 6,000 years of Human history was claimed through the Faithfulness of that unique soul when the YHWH claimed earthly Sovereignty over the Kali Yuga, when He directed the sacrifice of a 3 year old heifer, a 3 year old Ram and Ewe, and a pair of doves. That was a Claim Staked between Heaven and Earth, to Cover the Ages of Taurus, Aries and Pisces, by our Heavenly Father's Old Testament Covenant. Yeshua Ha'Moshiach was the Bridge between the End of the Kali Yuga and the Aquarian Age which just began. He is both the Vessel and the Spirit of the Grace of Almighty G0D, Who Establishes His Kingdom from Age to Age.. and the Final Propitiation that closed out the Temple sacrificial system of the Hebrew Scriptures, according to the prophets from Moses to His Own disciples and apostles.. imho. I believe that the Grace of God is not diminished.. even when our understanding and knowledge may have been, so thanks so much for sharing your insights and information! Blessings to you and all you cherish. May grace be yours in abundance! 🍃💛🍃

@Ricca_Day

2 жыл бұрын

Gandra Zmaj Ok. Thanks for the clarification.

@Ricca_Day

2 жыл бұрын

Gandra Zmaj We are individuals with free will, therefore our beliefs are our own, and each of us must arrive at our own conclusions as to the veracity and historicity of the perspectives we are exposed to in this life. I am not of the opinion that YHWH is any sort of evil robot.. but you are certainly entitled to your opinion. For my experience and faith, it is the Old Testament scriptures that were fulfilled by Yeshua Ha'Moshiach, known in English as Jesus Christ/ Messiah. There I find my own grace and Propitiation, if there is any worth in my redemption as a fallen soul, desirous of ascension beyond the mortal form in which I now dwell.. But blessings to you and Bon Chance!

One comment to Norse Paganism influencing the Druids and vice versa. Trade between Scandinavia and Ireland has taken place since the stone age, so there was plenty of opportunity to influence each other's cultures. Ireland was a source of gold, copper and tin, whereas Scandinavia was the only nothern trade hub between east and west. It's probably not a coincidence that both Hadrian's wall and the Danelaw's northern border were set along the ancient route used by traders to move the wealth that passed between Ireland and the North Sea in the form of trade goods. The same wealth must also have played a part in why the Celts decided to conquer Ireland in the first place.

"Women without modesty and men without valor." Yep...that age is already here!

@indigo6842

3 жыл бұрын

The thing about “prophecies” is that they are always true and always have been.

@logancaine9616

3 жыл бұрын

Just in case the lack of creativity, and lack of imagine that went into making Wet Ass Pussy, doesn't trouble your mind enough. This comment on this video certainly will.

@magnolia8626

3 жыл бұрын

@@logancaine9616 You're probably a p*ssy yourself. Congratulations!

@BenAC75

2 жыл бұрын

How society thinks today: Women are supposed to be able to be as immodest as they want. Men should not have valor and honor. If they do they are somehow sexist.

@photinodecay

2 жыл бұрын

Eschatological prophecies are a favorite of a society that has failed. It may be time for the old Indo-European ways to end and for us to return to protecting the earth and its bounty rather than pillaging it.

2021 you can sense the Insanity of Man and the inevitable clash to follow

Kali Yuga in Sanatana Dharm is exactly a horrid chaos followed by a golden age.

You rock!!!

"... this is not prophecy, but history; it refers to the past, not to the future; it describes not a Day of Judgment to come, but one that has already fallen on the human family." - Ignatius L. Donnelly, "Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel"

See? I always had the theory that the Second Battle of Moytura was the "Ragnarok" of the irish.

Just a suggestion, I'd like if you could do at least 1 more norse mythology video and I don't mean in anyway a "viking video",but more an interpretation of some of the gods just as you have done with the celtic triad

As it was so it shall be-and so forth

Is this only Norse and Celtic or are there similarities in other Indo-European peoples Myths ? Could it point to a specific time when the ancestors of Celts and Scandinavians split from each other ?

@marinakaiser7639

3 жыл бұрын

I think it will be the end of the world like we know it and beginning of new

@galaxysmp8163

3 жыл бұрын

There are parallels in the Hindu Kali Yuga the last of 4 ages in the cycle of the universe. This age is defined by degradation, vice and violence and ends in the destruction of everything. It is then followed by the cycle restarting from the beginning. (Rebirth)

@travismitchell210

3 жыл бұрын

The kali yuga and the roman myths are pretty similar. I don't want to disrespect fortress of lugh here by name dropping other creators but survive the jive did a video a while back that also included those myths as well. Both men are invaluable in understanding Indo European religion.

@marinakaiser7639

3 жыл бұрын

@@travismitchell210 kali yuga again this things.Kali is again one of misunderstood Goddess like Hekate

Excellent research and in someway can be related to whats going on around the world today.

Great i know wat it is also but great that you selected just Ragnarök☺️⚔🗡

@marinakaiser7639

3 жыл бұрын

Lol what

That music is from Xenogears! It’s called Omen!

❤ cool

I belive in Ragnarök in a sense.Maybe it begins already

Death had/has a very special place in Norse spirituality. The reason for this in my opinion is because how someone dies says quite a lot about how they lived.

If we consider myths have the basic function of modeling and influencing human psychological processes, then I guess we should interpret the events of ragnarok as fading a system of values and reigning of another, perceived destructive ones. We are not far from that! Maybe already happened in christianization of Europe

I love Norse mithology

I am very, very surprised that you did not talk about the sky falling and being made of stone, as you mention elsewhere, or being on fire, as well as the ‘ground opening up beneath our feet’ motif.

@FortressofLugh

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I should have, but I was more focused on this exact example. I thought to include it at some point but it slipped my mind. I will just do something specific on it another time I suppose.

@thegreenmage6956

3 жыл бұрын

@@FortressofLugh No worries, this is a complicated picture, and even if it were simple, the pieces are scattered, so you are both presenting it and constructing it at the same time. Things will become more concise in the future. The old and the new are watching.

Remember kids, spay and neuter your Lokis. Only you can prevent Ragnaroks.

Checks out

17:07 how does one spell that?

Great that i didn't know of course that you have similar mythology with norse or somehow connected

I like the idea of Ragnarok's story of renewal after the battle. It is much more favorable, I believe, than the christian Armageddon and of course there is no pantheon of God's (very dull) and they just havemany humans tortured for eternity for a variety of reasons, some very, very questionable, and others going to heaven to grovel and praise on their knees to the sky-daddys (talk about incest! LMAO) for their eternity. Yeah, pagans definitely have more fun! Thanks for the videos.

Transcript?

3:34 15:31

Druids were the magical people

For some time now I have had a new perspective. One day, there will be a slum on a space station, this planet long-since rotten and wrought. Or perhaps we will be here, living in a post-fallout reality. Our objective, as modern Celts, is to ensure that when that time comes, being a Celt still means something. The threat of end times is not about averting the inevitable. It is about maintaining tradition we preparation for the aftermath.

@elizabethford7263

3 жыл бұрын

Ugh. Anthropologically there's no such thing as "Celt".

@thegreenmage6956

3 жыл бұрын

@@elizabethford7263 And that is precisely the notion which we must resist against, if not, what is left of us will surely disappear. How, anthropologically, is there no such thing as a Celt?

@elizabethford7263

3 жыл бұрын

Check out Dr Barry Cunliffe at Oxford

"Women will be without modesty, men without valor....." ....Oh shit, you guys.

@hutchison3379

3 жыл бұрын

Define modesty.

Wonder what your thoughts are on the God of War franchise's take on the Norse myth now. Turning Angrboda black and making Thor look less than heroic.

Heil the all father Odinn

That prophecy fits todays age or at least the coming 50 years like nothing else

The great flood of noah was the end of the Norse God's. The original world was destroy.

Women without modesty, men without valour..

doesnt that sound like our the age we live in? 3:15

REGNAROK Rag-narok = (read backwards) = Koran=Quran Rag= gra = crow Rag-narok = Crow Quran Magic word for magicians: Abracadabra = Abra-cad-abra = (shuffle the letters) = Arab-cad-Arab Al·la·hu Ak·bar Akbar (shuffle the letters) = Arab-K British were the druids & still are. Like “Priest or prince Charles/Christ” Imperialism or. Impair realism??? The British Empire was not founded; it was conjured up by John Dee, Queen Elizabeth the First’s court magician. There are two versions to the tale: either Dee summoned a demon, or he sacrificed Christopher Marlowe, the famous playwright, in a blood ritual. Possibly of Britain Britain B-r-(it)-ain = B it Rain Br-(it)-ain = Brain it Brit-ain = Tribune (Brit)ai(n)= burnt B-ri-t- ain = T-b-Naira or T-b-Arian Bri-tain B-rit-ain = B-arain it Brit-ain = turbian Bri-t-a-in = T - in- arab Britain Brit-ish= (turn B to K & I to U) Turkish

@samirdizco2759

2 жыл бұрын

are you crazy

Before I watch the video, I wanted to share my theory; Celts descend from Ancient Greeks - Macedonians and possibly Carthaginians. (Basque people are the bridge and offshoot) Celtic Cathar religions ties to Bologilism is one example. Norse vikings descend from Hittites (Alongside the Scythians) Nordic and Scythian tribes are "Gog and Magog". These are the remnants that survived the collapse of the Bronze Age and the genocide perpetrated by the Sea Peoples. The Hittites who occupied Debir, Hebron, Jericho and Jerusalem at the time, faced a second "Ragnarok" at the hands of the Israelite Youth Army, led by Joshua, under the guidance of Moses. This would make them the "Nephilim" aka the "Mighty ones of old". If you want a size comparison, just stand John Stewart in front of Hulk Hogan or to be fairer, just think of Sylvester Stallone standing in front of Hulk Hogan in Rocky 3, for a "Grasshopper" reference. Imagine at best Zac Efron facing down Brock Lesnar. Imagine Andy Samberg facing down Dolph Lundgren. Its very possible "Nephilim" is a form of cultural propaganda and demonization. The word actually means "Hybird" or "Bastards", with "Naphal" actually meaning "The Fallen" in Hebrew. "Sons of God" and "The Chosen People" is a not a very far leap as a proclamation. Especially for a group of people who have notoriously reinvented and rebranded themselves over the span of history. Also "AEsir" when translated means "Men of the East" with the "Gods" described as being either "Swarthy" or "Redheads". Red hair genetically originates from the Middle East. Heimdallr was described as being the "Whitest of the Gods" which makes Disney's casting kind of offensive. And considering their version of Thor is just a mix of "Tor of Troy" and "The Archangel Michael" wearing Alexander the Great's cape? I think this somehow ties into ancient bloodlines divided by archaic hominin ancestries. I think this is the ancient basis for the prejudicial divides that led to WW2. Its encoded into people's inherited ancestral genetics. Then you have the story about the Assyrians defeating the Hittites in their vassal state near Babylon-Sumer, and 10s of thousands of Hittite men were forced to migrate North AFTER they had one eye removed. Celts also hold ties to Ancient Phoenicians, who's remnants can be found among 1st Nations people's of North America. Cherokee hold genetic origins to Galilee. This connection is being reinforced by archaeological discoveries of Phoenician Copper mines in the Great Lake Regions. These mines are dated for around the time the Old World mysteriously got their Copper and Bronze supply, that shares the same purity rating. And Anishinaabe hold Celtic genetic ties, pre-colonialism, and may be tied to the Tochorian people (Celts) of the Gobe Desert and the Silk Road trade route. You can see Celtic and 1st Nation connections based on customs and cultural practices such as music or textiles/fashion designs, language and names used/given, such as ones used to describe Rivers in both Great Britain and Canada (Pre-colonialism). "Talisman" is an example of word that carries over and nearly translates; A God of Crafts vs a Craft used for 'magic'. Early Celt + Early East Asians = Anishinaabe 1st Nations people? Both Asians and Anishinaabe share a prominent inheritance of "Denisovan" DNA, while Celtics possess distinct Neanderthal inheritances.

Ragnarök is only Norse/Viking not Celtic! Celtic worships: Taranis, Lugh, Dagda, Morrigan, Danu, Nuada, Ogma... they are not the same.

Good channel but you don't go into occult (hidden), shame. The real problem is what is History HES Story is definitely not our story.

I dub our age the "wack age"

Isnt ragnarok a christian-influenced theory? To kill the gods?

@FortressofLugh

3 жыл бұрын

No, as the video explains

@pierren___

3 жыл бұрын

@@FortressofLugh whats the goal of it then ? What happens after ?

@gaventer2022

3 жыл бұрын

Renewal, Rebirth, Purification, Detox, Purging... Etc! How about doing some basic research in your own time? Just a though. 😎

@pierren___

3 жыл бұрын

@@gaventer2022 Why purging from gods that were our creators? Especially when most of the after-gods are close to christian-like? I did some research and i dont agree

@gaventer2022

3 жыл бұрын

I also don't fully understand the purging of gods part really... Not an expert myself, as a Hellenic Neo Pagan! I suppose it would make sense that it could be "Christian influenced" to retcon the death of gods... It certainly fits the bill! I just figured that it was an integral part of the purification/rebirth process. But you've got a point! I'd definitely feel the same if for example the Olympians were destined to die out in a similar fashion!

Bad take on Christianity. The whole work of Christ is to make the world new as it was intended to be. Read Revelation 21. New Heaven. New Earth.

@FortressofLugh

3 жыл бұрын

You are right. I must have been half asleep on that. I have corrected it.

Umm, that’s exactly what the Bible says

@FortressofLugh

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you are correct. Sorry. I have corrected it.

@SuperChimcham

3 жыл бұрын

@@FortressofLugh it’s crazy how all religions and myths are parallel. Check this- Enki and Enlil from the Mesopotamian stories are identical to the stories of Thor and Loki. The gods from heaven- the Nephilim, or the gods from Nifflehiem- which means those who live in the clouds.

@Isaiiahii

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperChimcham It's because white people (from eastern to western Europe, From ancient Greece and Rome to north Africa and the ancient Middle East) are descendants of the ancient peoples spoken of in the Bible, and who the Bible is about. Many of them (some before Moses and perhaps even before Abraham) spread out over the earth and carried with them their traditions, laws, customs, manners, myths, legends and prophecies. DNA is proving that white people existed in ancient India, China, the Middle East and perhaps even North and South America. This history has mostly been lost and today even suppressed. A lot of this was being uncovered in the 1800's by men traveling the world and discovering now suppressed information. You can't discuss what was being revealed in the 1800's any longer because you get called a racist. Any idea of white people once being scattered across the whole earth and the rulers of ancient civilizations gets mocked and shunned by so-called political correctness. But this information is resurfacing now, just not in the mainstream. My theory is that white people were the original founders of the ancient religions that exist today (Not Islam as it is more modern than the others, but Muhammad was clearly highly influenced by the Old Testament), and that is why they all have so much in common with the Bible. Read the first Book of Enoch and see how much of it parallels with the Bible. Enoch is more ancient than Moses. I could write a book about this but I'll stop there. P.S. I don't support all his ideas and conclusions, but check out Robert Sepehr here on KZread. He does a lot of fascinating work on ancient history and the migrations of people.

@SuperChimcham

3 жыл бұрын

@@Isaiiahii I agree with you but only after the last last cataclysm. I think the Greek Mythos of Phaethon and also the Mayan creation story of the 5 suns explains how black people came to be. I think that white people came to be at that time too because of living underground.

@Isaiiahii

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperChimcham Interesting, thanks for the reply. Do you have a video you could share on that theory? I'm not familiar with it.

Aren’t you misrepresenting Christianity a bit ? Doesn’t the Bible say that after the battles in the book of revelation there is a renewal of both heaven and earth, with a new city of Jerusalem descending from heaven? As well as Jesus and God returning to walk among humanity as in the days of Eden?

@LiamMacD

3 жыл бұрын

I've heard very little biblical references that show a renewal of the earth rather than it's destruction as humanity is supposed to ascend to heaven. I know the Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the earth will be renewed, but they sight their own literatures rather than biblical versus to prove the teaching. If you have some quotes it would be great but I don't think there's much scripture to back that belief that isn't up to personal interpretation.

@gaventer2022

3 жыл бұрын

Obviously, the textual appearance of Ragnarök is some centuries later than the drafting of the Book of Revelation, but the idea of Ragnarök surely predates its recording in the Eddas, whereas such a concept is not found in the Old Testament and is not associated with Jewish mythology and thought.

@galaxysmp8163

3 жыл бұрын

@@LiamMacD Revelation 21:1-3 1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. Not much for interpretation there IMO, at least not in the KJV. Maybe other versions are different, but then again Christianity is rife with weird and widely differing interpretations as well as additions, case in point the concept of the rapture is nowhere in the Bible that I have seen.

@galaxysmp8163

3 жыл бұрын

@@gaventer2022 oh I agree Ragnarok has enough aspects common across indo- European cultures that it is difficult in my mind to attribute the tale to later Christian influences. Well except the versions where Baldur returns as the supreme God, that sounds kinda Christian to me.

@FortressofLugh

3 жыл бұрын

I think you are right actually. It has been too long since I've read it so sorry for misrepresentation. Perhaps I will do a video on this in the future. You have inspired me to refresh my knowledge on the subject. There is also the Persian example as well which some people believe influenced Christianity. I definitely do not think the Norse tale is a copy of the Christian because basically all Indo-European traditions have such an destruction and renewal myth but I stand corrected. To me though this is more interesting because it is a source for common theological ground that may have played a roll in conversation, as well as my belief that gods such as Lug and Odin were basically reinvented as the Christian god, suggested by the stories that Cúchulain appeared in the sky after his death and preached of Christ and was the first to prophecy Christ

Ragnarok is only Nordic not Celtic two different things Celtic paganisms / Reconstructionist don't teach Ragnarok mixed pagans may but Ragnarok is not Celtic at all