Really impressed with Matt’s fondness of this GRC. A guy like him drives everything……his praise speaks volumes.

"Hitachi! From personal pleasure devices, to shocks! To heavy mining excavators! For all your needs!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@mengx94

Ай бұрын

I love hibachi

@SafeBandicoot

Ай бұрын

Hitachi also proudly supply nuclear reactors and related services.

@wyteoh2000

Ай бұрын

Yes.

@corollabzr

Ай бұрын

Hitachi = Tokico merged back in 2004

@cbotten106

Ай бұрын

Isn't that like a "marital aid" or something? I don't know I'm asking. Any unexplained vibrations in that vehicle we've got an immediate probable cause. And it sounds like Subaru cheaped out on those rear shocks. Car & Driver made the same comment about the rear end "clomping" over bumps the front handled nicely, come on Subaru!

"No instrumented testing" hilarious!

Love the "GR-Four" throwback on the side skirts.

@jeremyjackson8643

28 күн бұрын

Yea it's nice.

AS Matt noted in the podcast, he has lapped the GR Rolla extensively, and not had an issue with the overheating diff. He does also note that this is anecdotal evidence, so perhaps it's how you drive it as well. Also great video.

Nice to see Thaddeus again!

Bittersweet video. Just traded my GR Corolla for a G70 3.3T. Moving from a great driving area to NYC, and the Corolla, amazing as it is, wasn't quite cut out for what my driving life is going to look like when I move. I got 16k miles out of it, with a few track days, so I definitely feel like I experienced it how the GR engineers hoped it would be. Lived up to the hype, and I'll miss it. Figure I may pick one up again down the road one day, so keep buying them people!

@Krazertv

Ай бұрын

You have bear mountain north of NYC! Great roads up there!

@Sayu2x

Ай бұрын

The interior quality difference must’ve been life changing

@OGcottoncandyrandy

Ай бұрын

Ew, a Hyundai? 😂

@tealruby582

Ай бұрын

NYC? I'm there often for work. If I had to move there I would 100% ditch my cars.

@s4awd2

Ай бұрын

Such a fun car to drive. Surprised you let it go. I would have made it work :)

A lot of the road noise on the BRZ/86 is from the v-bars that go from the strut tower to the firewall. Wrapping them with sound deadening helps a lot. Going down to 17" wheels is also a big help. This was a really cool non-instrumented video :)

I dunno if I'd call the GRC "affordable" it's $45k for what's basically a corolla hatchback under it all. Not that it didn't stop me from buying one mind you.

@timw2083

Ай бұрын

The Corolla Hatch XSE is a very good looking starting point. I have a GRC and love the invisible sleeper effect. Only Car People know what it is. When someone ask what I drive, I quickly say a "Corolla" 😂

@jjmot27

27 күн бұрын

The problem is that performance cars are getting rarer these days, and this is “affordable” compared to something like an M3.

@buggyfanatic6918

26 күн бұрын

i would rather have a type r than a corola gr any day, even though the type r is a fwd

@timw2083

24 күн бұрын

@buggyfanatic6918 that's a great choice. I bought the GRC, but glad there are still fun hot hatch options. You should get one if you can find it

@R--O

19 күн бұрын

​@@timw2083 had to fly down a few states to get mine at msrp. #worthit

Great video! Love these kinds of comparisons.

That's a pretty nice Nitrous Blue Focus RS... Wait a minute...

@Erkkremlinklum

29 күн бұрын

I’m still salty the rs was so short lived

@exothermal.sprocket

14 күн бұрын

With 1 less cylinder, less power, and less aesthetic appeal.

@jaketeske6136

4 күн бұрын

@@exothermal.sprocketand 1000000% more reliability. Toyotas don’t crack blocks at stock power.

@exothermal.sprocket

3 күн бұрын

@@jaketeske6136 You do realize that was an early issue that Ford solved early, and subsequent 2.3L engines were not doing that? They do still sell that engine in another platform. Anyway. Your percentage number is an obvious gross exaggeration.

Damnit I'm watching this video! I just listened to the podcast where the guys were wondering what was up with the metrics. It's excellent! Thanks for doing this one.

This was put together really well guys, thanks for the video!

I enjoy these comparison videos

this felt like so much fun. thanks for bringing us along!

Toyota has done something special here. Just picked up my new GRC for MSRP. And I love it. Blows me away. Great video

@brandon9491

24 күн бұрын

Such a good car, congrats on getting it for msrp! I paid 2k over a while back and was happy with that 😂

@josephtejeda854

18 күн бұрын

I got my core msrp with the diff and caliper package 😊

Man, I love comparison videos!

Thank you for the review what an excellent comparison

Thanks for all what you guys do.

Great job boys! Keep up the good work with realistic cars that are attainable

Great video guys

Great video guys!

Coyote crossing the track at 25:17

@J-Bae

2 күн бұрын

haha I just dropped down to see if there were any comments for this!

Been waiting for this one!!!!

Great video - thanks for giving the people what they want regarding affordable sports cars. I hope you're rewarded with a lot of views.

@adogmcdizzle

16 күн бұрын

Seems like they haven't been rewarded... Matt's comments about that on the crew show podcast brought me here.

“Be there in 5 minutes” had me rolling.

Love these two cars love ypur work and your complicity when working together . I would go for the subaru brz ts since i alrady have two turbo fast german cars . Something like that would give à different feel of driving in my favorite twisty canadian mountain roads.

They should have put the GR Corolla motor in the GR86.

@johnl.38

Ай бұрын

That's the rumor for the next gen

@stephen8813

Ай бұрын

Id pay for that.

@brasp

Ай бұрын

Laggy turbo? No thanks. A slightly larger 4cyl with an 8000 rpm redline would’ve been actually perfection

@Erkkremlinklum

29 күн бұрын

@@braspsomeone with some sense!

@TerryFT86

28 күн бұрын

@@brasp yes.... 8k..... but subaru accoutants wont do it. Why is there so many MBAs out there ruining every industry

Haha! :D nice one! Didn't knew that TST crew contains guy from Poland, love it! Pozdrowienia Tadeuszu!

TST is getting better and better

@jareknowak8712

Ай бұрын

...i miss tuned car tests.

I suspect if you start asking more, you might find that it's relatively common to have fairly different dampers between the front and back. There's lots of reason why, for one you have more room for damper diameter in the front being a mcpherson strut with a somewhat large diameter spring. The rear is a multilink with the damper inside a fairly small diameter spring for packaging reasons. So the front gets room for a larger body damper, and the rear not so much, but then the rear also has to contend with a lower motion ratio which means it also needs greater damping forces. So in short, you don't necessarily want the same type of damper front and rear as they often have different geometries to contend with.

@bradcomis1066

Ай бұрын

While it true that there are different packaging constraints of chassis/suspension layout front to rear you'd still WANT that great digressive damper curve and balanced damper performance front and rear. Whether or not it can be achieved is the challenge that the engineers take on. A really well packaged car would consider this from the start and build in enough space for good dampers front and rear.

@Levibetz

Ай бұрын

@@bradcomis1066 Maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear exactly what made the front dampers special, but yeah digressive would be good. I thought it might be an inverted strut or something. Best I can tell the Gen 1 BRZ is just impreza rear suspension with a bigger hole for the larger diff. Literally shares lateral links and such. So I suspect this is the same multilink geometry as used on other Subarus. It's a pretty good geometry though, no reason not to use it.

@bradcomis1066

Ай бұрын

@@Levibetz He doesn't state any details about the front dampers other than that they are upgraded and have a good ride feel. So, I'd suspect they have upgraded valving from the standard units. Shared suspension is logical for a product like this.

Awesome video guys. Good to see Thad too👍🏻

I've had my BRZ for a little over a year and It's by far my favorite car ever. Such a well-balanced package.

Would love to see GR86 Trueno or one with performance package vs BRZ tS. Just to see how each company tunned suspension.

Just heard the pod, crazy this doesn't have more views! Great video, and entertaining. And no you're not old and done, keep going lol! Although faking that you're old and done might boost things haha

I’ve totally never seen any of those Hitachi shoulder massager videos either man!

You forgot about the GR Yaris at 16:00!

Good to see Thad. I loved the All Cars movies, and other Thaddeus Ideas over the years. If only they paid enough for you guys to make more of them.

Awesome video!

love a Thad appearance! great video boys

Hitachi shoulder massager? What is Zack talking about? I have no clue🤷‍♂️

haha Zach's Hitachi comment...gold!

I love my GR corolla. Just added some lowering springs and more aggressive alignment and it's even more fun and impressive. Now on another slightly sillier topic. Matt, I really dig that orange flannel lol. Been trying to find one just like it, mind sharing the brand? Cheers!

This is what you need to make more of.

I just don't understand why every reviewer has to relegate the 86/BRZ to the car you learn to drive RWD in and then move on to bigger boys. Seriously none of them think one could just own an 86/BRZ and be happy?

@Villani_AV

Ай бұрын

It's the same with motorcycles. Some of us do indeed like more power, but a lot of people just prefer handling and feel

@Villani_AV

Ай бұрын

And it almost becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. If you're someone who prefers handling and lightweight, but you hear nothing but acceleration, 500hp, etc you're going to subconsciously feel like you NEED more. 300hp is still more than most people can handle with everything turned off. Don't listen to others, buy what you like

@Erkkremlinklum

29 күн бұрын

True driver enthusiast want even less and get a Miata cause less is more

@Villani_AV

29 күн бұрын

@@Erkkremlinklum very broad statement there. I prefer more power, I also like to build those cars to handle. I guess I'm not a "true enthusiast"

@PM4K

28 күн бұрын

​@@Villani_AV I agree with you.

Love my 2nd gen BRZ as a weekend canyon/track car! I added a Cusco throttle pedal extension to close the pedal spacing, also helps liven up the throttle response a bit. A K&N intake gives the FA24 a great induction note. Cheap front camber bolts for -2.5 degrees up front. All makes for an amazing lightweight rwd car for under $50k.

Great see the old (introduced in 2001) the gold STI brembos. I have them on my GC8 WRX and they are amazing

Great video! Im surprised how good the BRZ sounds stock

14:48 "it's just epic" followed by the warbled shrieking of the tires here is hilarious and I don't know why

Very kind of you to drop this on my birthday! Great as always.

@PigglyWigglyDeluxe

Ай бұрын

Happy birthday whoever you are! 🎉

@whistlinlipo

Ай бұрын

Happy birthday! I hope you have a good day

@zackklapman3569

Ай бұрын

Happy birthday

@Krazertv

Ай бұрын

Happy birthday!

@sethsimpson8086

Ай бұрын

Happy birthday 🎂 🥳

Here to watch after listening to the podcast. Great video ahead, I’m sure of it!!!

I've been wondering where this video was, heard the comparison mentioned on the podcast awhile back.

31:44 I live for Zack's manic laughter

Oh this is going to be a classic vid

Love my GR, just got and I need to hit the track

@JFlogerzi

29 күн бұрын

watch those Diff temps. With Summer approaching I might skip unless you live in cooler temps.

I have a GR86 love it. Highly Recommend it

@yume8380

Ай бұрын

Good choice, cheap enough and a modern classic.

@davesudlik9638

Ай бұрын

Ditto

This comparison is missing the Elantra N ;) we would have awd vs rwd vs fwd.

@johnnyolson258

Ай бұрын

Agreed. Elantra N and BRZ/GR86 are probably the best two to compare being in similar price range and closer in power. Very good FWD vs RWD comparison

@benglasby8014

Ай бұрын

Savage Geese 🪿 did a pretty good comparison set, don’t believe the GR86/BRZ was in the mix though

I've had my GRC Circuit Edition for a week... it keeps a smile on my face. I can't wait to get my track day. I love how its basically invisible on the road since its just a Corolla 😂

@trigganometry168

Ай бұрын

How do you claim the free track day? I also picked up my GRC circuit last week 😅

@timw2083

Ай бұрын

@@trigganometry168 congrats as well. My buddy said Toyota will send us the membership and track cert within a couple of weeks. I hope you're enjoying yours as much as I am. 🎉🎉

Good classic motoring show, thanks a lot smoking tire

I love the gr corolla I jus keep leaning tword the gr for new car but then there's the CTR one of my dream cars .

@JFlogerzi

29 күн бұрын

at MSRP is the better overall car and a much better track car. But if you live where AWD matters and more lean towards daily driving the GR would be my pick.

Keep in mind that the wheel alignment is set to optimize street driving. It can be adjusted to optimize for track.

I'll take the brz ts

This is an awesome comparison. Hope changing to GR86 increases your engagement.

@Zach - BMW's "dynamic handling package" only adds adaptive suspension in the rear on most cars like the 230i, 330i etc - another situation where the front and rear suspensions aren't both upgraded. never understood it either.

Great premise for a video gents, glad you chose these vehicles for a comparison, better that a pair of unobtainium Supercars. Peace

I bored my son doing a similar comparison on the way to school today in my GRC. My previous car was a BRZ Limited. I miss the suppleness of the BRZ suspension, but virtually everything else about the GRC is better.

Just for reference, the core edition of the GR Corolla also comes with the selectable torque split and if you opt for the performance package you also get the limited slip differentials. Arguably the GR Corolla Core with a performance package is the car you should get if you care about performance. A core GR Corolla PP MSRP is just under $39,000. When you compare a BRZ ts at about $37,000 you might as well just make the jump to the GR Corolla for $2000, it's not really a $7000 difference.

Matt is hilarious. “I looooove this thing”. Lol. They way he said it. 😂

@nicolasbolduc8764

Ай бұрын

It sadly would not sell here

@exothermal.sprocket

14 күн бұрын

Focus RS. Golf R.

That fit is sick.

Which car can blow it's motor and have warranty coverage denied first?

@KN-jw7ts

Ай бұрын

What a stupid comment. You really think you’re slick, don’t u.

@16BitOG

Ай бұрын

whichever one does things not covered under warranty that cause the engine to blow.

@mengx94

Ай бұрын

Tbf it's boffum

@aluisious

Ай бұрын

@@16BitOG Both have been denied for track days

@johnl.38

Ай бұрын

​@@16BitOGlots of stories of stock gr86/brz warranty denials related to oil starvation lmao. Do some research... The GR corolla ones I have seen are all money shifts so fair enough.

Now if you are able to test a GR Yaris.

Great episode! How bad is the Corolla interior for 40k?

How about a track test between an Accord and a 2012 Impala!

I love ny gr Corolla core in ice cap white, what wn absolute ripper

i think the 86/BRZ is the "more fun car" and the GR is the more speed and more usable car, different ideas and executions. Great to have variety nowadays

I’d only want the GRC if I could only have 1 car in the garage. But if I already have a daily I’m taking the tS. Thats just the driving dynamic recipe to me. Although it needs a catback and to disconnect the cabin engine noise module. Then it’s perfect. I’m one of the few that don’t want a turbo in it.

Yes the color of the kislux is beautiful and it is a great decision, maybe one day they will add feet and straps. It would be nice to have a bigger bag during the colder months when we have to store gloves, beanies, scarves, etc…

I don’t agree with your comment about what a true GR product is. You totally missed the mark on that one. Gazoo Racing had major input into the GR86 and the GR Supra development. All three cars deserve those badges. The GR86 has a stiffer suspension and a more aggressive ECU. The GR Corolla might be the “purest” one since it is all “Toyota”. In Asia Toyota released a number of Toyotas that are now branded GR sports. Those are what are would consider “marketing branding” since all they come with is aero bits and black themed wheels, badges, etc…

Please use the same driver for both cars.

When I sat in a BRZ Ts at the NY auto show, I was disappointed by the pedal placement. Too far apart for "rocking the ankle/foot" heel toe technique and not enough room on the right side of the gas pedal for the full heel out swing method. Also, I wonder like tinted windows...can consumers get "acoustic laminated glass" done aftermarket? I feel like I would want the BRZ to be a little more "grand tourer" as I'm driving across the country to get to the next race track, you know?

Test drove both of these and went with the GR Corolla Circuit... It wasn't even close.

I would love to actually see some racing video comparison of a Focus RS and the GR Corolla. There doesnt seem to be too many.

for some reason this video never popped up in my feed, I didn't know about it until listening to the podcast earlier today.

The GR Corolla review makes me wish the GR Yaris was available on this side of the Pacific

Awesome to see Toyota making some fun little sports/enthusiast cars. Had a GR86 for a bit and was fun to drive but always wished it had more power. Would love to see that Corolla motor in a GR86 at some point. Sad times that these days the best sports car you can get for under $50k is a Corolla or BRZ/GR86 😔 Cars have gotten outrageously expensive.

I wonder if the Morizo GR Corolla is similar feeling to the Focus RS, both had complaints of too stiff for the street.

@JFlogerzi

29 күн бұрын

Exactly but Snice Matt drove both he can tell u first hand

love that chorizo corolla

anybody else catch that coyote running through the track at 25:17

Pretty sure the noise in the BRZ is just the fake speaker engine noise. The normal BRZ has that since without it the engine is very soft and quiet, which is good for being stealthy. Also you can disable the fake engine noise by unplugging the cable and it takes less than a minute with many guides on KZread.

These are the top two on my list (base not the tS) so thanks for the video!

18:25 the emphasis on 'crispiness' let's you know it's really good

Had a GRC when they first came out, incredible driving experience but toilet interior.

That was really good stuff 😂😂😂😂

I wish Toyota also Brought all the trucks and cars over to the US

Both of these are very appealing cars, but they both have issues as track cars. Oil starvation for the BRZ/GR86, and overheating rear drive unit clutches for the Corolla GR. These issue make me wonder if a Miata or WRX might be the battery basis for a daily that will work for track days. (Though the WRX might also have oiling issues, at lease its center diff based AWD system should hold up on the track.)

The BRZ is the answer to "what is slow car fast".

@hojnikb

Ай бұрын

and miata..

Seldom uttered phrases: "If you want all-out speed, the Corolla might be the answer."

@24:00 somehow Hitachi and STI being in the same sentence ser my tickle alarm off.

Would changing from PS4 to PS4S on the BRZ help the steering feel? How bout bushings?

Matt, you need to do a rallycross in the GRC. It comes alive on the dirt and really feels like a rally car. Incrediblly stiff chassis.