R9 or CR7? England Bonuses & Maradona Mayhem | EP 27
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What did each of Gary, Alan and Micah do with their England bonuses and who forced Micah to give his away? How good was the Brazilian Ronaldo? And who stopped Diego Maradona falling off a balcony at the Bombonera? Plus Gary recounts the night he thought his career was over.
00:00 - Intro
00:45 - The trios' origin story
06:26 - Jock Wallace story
09:37 - Micah's international fee bonuses
12:33 - Alan's golf tournament
13:20 - R9's potential without the injuries
21:41 - Managers being sacked early on in the season
24:35 - Which footballer would you be?
26:26 - East Lancs Derby
Пікірлер: 576
The speed at which both of them said R9 gave me chills. R9 was just unbelievable.
I saw R9 live in Milan when he was in his prime at Inter. I’ve never seen anybody like him (and I saw live also Messi and Cristiano). He was called phenomenon for a reason. Unreal
@miamitten1123
2 ай бұрын
Prime was Barcelona
@spz8342
Ай бұрын
@@miamitten1123tougher competition in serie A
At his peak, Brazilian Ronaldo was frighteningly unplayable. I absolutely love him. The footballing equivalent of peak Iron Mike Tyson.
@Ghost-tx4ft
6 ай бұрын
his prime was like 10 games bro.
@RajSingh-jv4dn
6 ай бұрын
💯 r9 the best ever
@BluesFanUK_
5 ай бұрын
@@Ghost-tx4ft Indeed, his peak lasted up until the back end of 99, he then struggled with injuries and came back a different player - the Ronaldo who won the Ballon d'Or in 2002 was a very different player to the one who won it in 97. All round talent he was a superior player to Cristiano, but it's a case of what could have been.
@akashpandey7466
5 ай бұрын
@@Ghost-tx4fthe never reached his prime kid.. And 95-98 he was 80% of his prime.. This is 50% more than cr7 prime.. In 2002 r9 was 50 % of what he used be in 90’s And kid am not talking about no of goals scored its about quality difficulty...
@broxy2007
8 күн бұрын
@@Ghost-tx4fthis prime was more like 100 games but ce7 fanboys liken you just don't get it lol
Ronaldo was injured for a total of 1,324 days in his career he missed nearly 5 years of football in total and considering that imagine if he never got injured still to this day one of the best strikers ever
@boubacardiallo5945
7 ай бұрын
THE best Striker ever
@Footballazz
7 ай бұрын
He’s the best talent in football history Gary: He was still one of the best even with his injuries Alan: equal to if not better than Messi and CR7 without his injuries Micah: Undisputed greatest of all time without the injuries And that’s just these 3. Many other great players managers and pundits would say the same. And if you watched him play, you’d say the same too.
@z3dda
7 ай бұрын
Messi, R9, Ronaldinho, Zidane.. Top 4, 5th can be debated. Just how it is.. R9 Best Stiker Ever.
@pauldavison486
6 ай бұрын
Yes. But he DID get injured. That’s what makes CR7 so incredible. His dedication to maintaining his fitness is unparalleled. If R9 committed half as much he would have stayed healthy. Just look at him now. 🤔
R9 is by far the best player I've ever seen, the things he was doing were unthinkable at the time. He had every single attribute of a striker to the highest level there was. The fact he gets included in best player of all time debates despite having his 3 and half year practically career ending injury shows truly what a gift he was to football and his mentality to come back and do what he did in 2002. Blessed to have been able to witness him
@readventurekids
7 ай бұрын
I echo your words. Brazilian Ronaldo was an unstoppable force. A joy to have lived through his young years and watched him at PSV and Barca.
@shehrozamar4644
7 ай бұрын
At his best, comfortably top 3 players I've ever seen. The most complete striker I've ever seen.
@lelethumnisi4478
7 ай бұрын
By far? Have you watched Messi?
@BluesFanUK_
5 ай бұрын
@@lelethumnisi4478 None of them have, Ronaldo's become a myth, like Maradona 'single handedly' winning Argentina the 1986 World Cup. He was a phenomenal footballer, but like Gary pointed out, he scored a lot of poachers goals too. If you look at a 10 year gap either side of Ronaldo's peak, so between 1986 - 2006, you had Romario, Zidane, Van Basten, Platini and Maradona, then Henry and Ronaldinho - Ronaldo wasn't a clear cut above all of them, he was on course to be, no one will ever truely know though. Messi on the other hand legitimately was, was doing things by the time he was 21/22 we'd never seen before. Maradona-esque number 10 with Gerd Muller's scoring prowess, absolute freak.
@relentero8547
5 ай бұрын
@@BluesFanUK_Tbh though, we don’t have the level of competition that we used to have. Every excellent player from Ronaldo’s time would all take the top spots for best players in the world currently and it’s not even close. R9 dominated his competition in the past, he was levels above everyone else.
Three different but overlapping generations make for a great dynamic. Alan Shearer is the most pleasant surprise on KZread. Expected him to be rigid but he's an absolute delight in this environment. They genuinely all are.
@koinutachi
7 ай бұрын
I completely agree. Although I have a deep admiration for english football, I am not english; I am spanish, hailing from Barcelona, for instance (warm regards to our legend Gary Lineker, by the way). The thing is, I wasn't acquainted with Shearer's personality beyond the pitch. Naturally, I held him in high regard as a player, but it's been a pleasure to observe his rather easy-going, if not somewhat laid-back, demeanor. I found it quite appealing. I also thoroughly enjoy Micah. The guy is an absolute delight and can light up a room with his presence. In summary, I love this podcast 🙌
R9 supposedly scored around 80 goals where he rounds the keeper. You hardly see that today, he was something else. I went 98 opening game in Paris against Scotland and he was incredible to watch, what a talent.
@snuffly6492
7 ай бұрын
88!
@tris87don16
7 ай бұрын
That was his trademark unstoppable in his prime definitely one of the goats
I've seen MADNESS from CR7. Some real amazing goals. But with all that said I still think R9 would have been the better player. And quite easily. R9 is the most amazing player I've ever seen with the ball at his feet.
@davidclark2669
5 ай бұрын
Great comment.... Nice to see others put there with a brain, all these kids annoy me such much, cr 7 cr7 cr7 bla bla bla clueless R9 different gravy
Ronaldo Phenomenon is the greatest attacking player I've ever seen. There's no question 'R9' is far better than CR7, which sounds crazy, and Christiano of course isn't simply a striker, and I'd regard him as the best wide player in his position, but Brazilian Ronaldo is truly the greatest from the 90's to today (at his peak). He played like a computer game on amateur mode; strength, speed, agility, touch, dribbling, and even vision were all perfect. The way he thought so quickly to get out of positional problems, or tackles was just electrifying. People talk about his injuries, but I think it's almost as though a human body containing his ability and speed could never have maintained it for more than 5 years. Lightning.
Prime Ronaldo from 1996-1999 was the greatest footballer i ever saw play the game. He was frightening. Then his knee exploded and was never the same player.
Micah is gold. He would improve anything you put him in-his laugh is incredible
Big up guys 💥 Another fantastic episode 🙂 The Scottish accent was hilarious 😆 Nice to hear you guys talk about R9 🔥 Fun fact - I use to have a blogspot/forum about 13 yrs ago where I use to highlight different players each week from legends to unappreciated players from all around the world & I named it Prime R9. It was a joke/play on the kids at the time, when they started to use their favourite players names on their display names/usernames so I named the site & my username Prime R9 a nod to my favourite player from my younger years. So now when people say Prime "insert players name" that comes from me. Over the years my slang has caught on 😉 no one really says "in his prime" it's always "prime" then the players name.
@Shunei_187
7 ай бұрын
💯 Good times! It's much more than that bro you're being too humble! All these KZreadrs who now exist from big to small it doesn't matter who they support they all try to talk like you and they all use your quotes and lines when they talk. You influenced a whole generation they wouldn't exist without you.
@JuanCarlos11920
7 ай бұрын
Greetings you are a legend in your own right amigo your impact and influence is unparalleled. You are one of the only person from England that is well versed on players from all over the world and not just from England. I miss the in-depth conversations and player comparisons on your forum.
@SMthere
7 ай бұрын
Incredible story...
I think what sums up r9 is that he had a big injury, potentially career ending. Came back, won the 2002 world cup, and the ballondor. He was clearly affected by the injury, not as explosive as before, but still so so good. Unreal player.
Cheeky Henry teaser, can’t wait for the episode lads. Enjoying the podcast!
Love hearing Lineker and Shearer talk about players from past generations. I need to go and check out highlights of Glen Hoddle now😂
@Leon-Noir
7 ай бұрын
Please let me know what you think. I promise you that the highlights will not do him justice.
@christaylor1913
7 ай бұрын
@@Leon-NoirI second that the highlights will not do him justice
@TheGregcellent
7 ай бұрын
I was watching an old Tottenham cup game from the early 80s the other day, and whilst it's hard to tell due to the nature of the game back then, it's clear to see he's head and shoulders above everyone else on the pitch in terms of technical ability. Steve Archibald looked good too
@Leon-Noir
7 ай бұрын
@@TheGregcellent He genuinely played in the wrong era or in the wrong country. He was so technically brilliant, but the press and various managers never knew how to utilise him. They wanted 100mph battling players. He was French, Italian, BraIlian, etc he would have had 200 caps.
@mediacenterman8583
7 ай бұрын
Hope you can find his goal vs Watford or his volley vs Liverpool. He was a wonderfully gifted player.
R9 genuinely lived up to his Phenomeno nickname!
@alandemaio3043
7 ай бұрын
Fenomeno the Brazilian media creates to different atlethes, there’s the phenomenon of MMA Vitor Belfort and many others.
Most crazy stat about R9 he scored 88 goals after taking it round the goalkeeper
In my time, I've had the honour of seeing some of the greatest play the game. And to this day, including Messi and CR7, nothing still compares to watching R9 in his prime. For me, he is the GOAT.
@paullomas4620
7 ай бұрын
100%
@notaspeck6104
7 ай бұрын
That's your opinion
@GIBBO4182
7 ай бұрын
@@notaspeck6104that’s why he said “for me” 🤦🏻♂️
@forcesensitive6371
7 ай бұрын
@@GIBBO4182 Thaank You!🤦🏿
@Scott-bh2qb
7 ай бұрын
@@notaspeck6104clown
After a long day /week at work nothing better than sitting down with a beer and listening to you guys. Amazing as ever guys.
Best football podcast around, haven’t missed an episode. Please keep it going!
First time listening. Just wanted to say this reminded me of an old radio show I used to listen to through my alarm clock at night when I had anxiety. It was the only way I used to fall asleep. This reminds me of it, but about something I love. So thank you.
Loving this podcast. The three of you are brilliant and I always look forward to watching it. Great shout, Micah, about the Superbowl
Kids today cant imagine the difference in goals scored by strikers today due to high defensive lines and teams defending the oppositon box instead of their own. R9 would thrive today even more than he did back then.. and injuries would have been treated better
This show is brilliant guys . Keep it up
You can't help but smile listening to these three brilliant podcast 👍
This podcast should be massive subscribers wise in 5 months very good entertainment. Id definitely get a guest on once a week. Good effort lads
These 3 are fantastic on the Top 10 and now these podcasts a great to listen to.
R9 is the goat for me
This podcast really helps my day go by at work, thanks lads what a great show.
Love micah you have to admit, i know hes only talking and having a laugh on all these shows but hes got some work ethic. I see him on every broadcaster for any game i watch
If R9 never had them career ending injuries he would be THE greatest.
good choice, my 3 favourite pundits, love listening and watching you guys
It is wonderful to hear you mention Hoddle Gary. I think he gets overlooked sometimes and it tends to be only Spurs fans who remember how good he actually was. He is still one of the most gifted English players to have ever put boots on.
@herytik4027
7 ай бұрын
I’m a Chelsea fan and to me, he modernised the club and started to change the English game by bringing in continental players and attitudes. Shame he couldn’t keep his beliefs to himself.
@georgeschofield6099
7 ай бұрын
Top players gary in day the best with Alan shearer Harry kane in my book top ten best great goalscorer love mica special being city fan aah so friendly great porgas keep good show . Keep good work up guys thanks all goals
Acer it once again, brilliant show.
I’m officially addicted to how much joy this podcast brings me.
The banter and chemistry between you three is S tier. (That means totally elite for you oldies😂😂)
This has become my favourite podcast, keep up the good work boys fantastic
This is certainly becoming a monster pod. It's the best one currently, every episode is fantastic and look forward to more.
Got goosebumps listening to you talk about Ronaldo, what a player. He was playing against 90s Serie A defenders, Christiano was playing (for the most part) against 2010's La Liga defenders. Ronaldo would have scored even more goals in that league.
@anirudhmenon9099
7 ай бұрын
2010s la liga had great defenders too?
@stuartchadwick5940
7 ай бұрын
@@anirudhmenon9099 really? Several players got close to or over 1 goal per game in that league and for the likes of Suarez and Christiano they never got near that in other leagues before or after. Even Neymar had a better record and he went to France after.
@JoblessJazz
7 ай бұрын
What? La Liga centre halves who coincided with Spanish football domination? A league with many of the best in the world who won multiple European and world level honours? 😅 Clueless and again just trying to push a narrative that R9s career was anywhere near CR7s.
@stuartchadwick5940
7 ай бұрын
@@JoblessJazz when someone resorts to insults, you know you're right. You're comparing Serie A in the 90s, a league where Shevchenko, Zamorano, Trezeguet, Crespo, Batistuta, Inzaghi, Del Piero (list is endless) never got anywhere near a goal a game. The league as a whole was notoriously defensive, that's without mentioning the colossal defenders throughout the league. Were you alive in the 90s? Because that is baffling to me, how you can call someone clueless is frankly outrageous.
@stuartchadwick5940
7 ай бұрын
Ronaldo got around 0.67 goals per game at Real Madrid, this was whilst being 3 stone overweight, 3 & 1/2 years out injured and most of his pace and explosiveness a distant memory. Clueless LOOOOL!
I don't listen to or watch podcasts really, never got into them other than maybe DOAC, but this is brilliant. Proper mates taking the piss out of each other and great stories. You really feel part of it, great podcast. 😂
Alan: “By the lugs!” Especially with the room acoustics 😂😂
This podcast is elite....no more words needed
Another awesome episode lads.
Love every video! I can't wait for the ep with Thierry! ❤️
Great podcast!. I am super looking forward to seeing Henry on the show!. It would be fun having other legends on the podcast too from all those different era’s.
As a Milan fan, I sweated bullets when R9 had the ball at his feet, when he had the ball at his feet , I just knew that this guy was going to do something crazy with the ball. I still remember the goal he scored against Inter when he was with us at Milan in 2007-08 season. My only wish was that he had his prime with us.
I'm sorry I took so long to subscribe, I've been a viewer for a while now. Great show ❤
Thanks very much for the content and stay safe 👊
Great podcast guys
R9.he was beast in his prime.esp 2002 WC.
@GeorgeLista
7 ай бұрын
He wasn’t even top of his prime in 2002. Incredible.
I love this pod. Watching Micah laugh is medicine
Never knew Leicester was managed by a pirate! 😂😂😂 great podcast gents and loved the story Gary!
Thierry is my footballing hero, so I'm very excited to see the man and the legend on the podcast very soon!
Love this podcast one of my favourites. Takes my mind off the crap happening in the world
CR7 In his prime I would prefer! people forget that Ronaldo between 2010 - and 2015
@navjitbassi03
4 ай бұрын
Nah thats very recent. We all remember that. 1998 r9 is easier to forget
Great podcast! Micah is really funny.
R9 is the greatest CF in history and no one's has matched his level since
Brilliant love this podcast
How is R9's English? Would love to see him on the podcast to learn how he views his career and what he achieved. If his English isn't great, maybe he could speak in Spanish and Gary could translate for us?
@n0213862
7 ай бұрын
The man speaks good English. He’d be a great guest, I think.
@JamboP26
7 ай бұрын
I remember him interviewed at the Brazilian Grand Prix. His English is basic but good
@mediacenterman8583
7 ай бұрын
Lineker interviewed him in Spanish and R9 responded in Portuguese. The BBC broadcast had subs in English
@davidplummer936
7 ай бұрын
I had a look. Couldn't find the one with him speaking Portugese but found this documentary Gary did in Brazil which R9 spoke in English (pretty well to be fair). It was on football in Brazil though so would love to hear a more personal interview about his career kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZKmprc9wfMrgirQ.htmlsi=58rIzJ1NRRssiI2j
"yes, I think that's clearly the question, Micah" killed me 😂
3 different generations …. Legends of the game and Micah 😉
Very entertaining great stuff
Lineker last question was gold 🤣🤣🤣🤣. He was smiling before asking the question 🙂.
Can we get R9 on the podcast😅? Loving the stories!
these guys are so mainstream yet so funny and interesting not boring at all best footy pod
"Pablo Zabeletta" made me laugh out loud - well done chaps.
@mediacenterman8583
7 ай бұрын
Lineker was a savage for that one. It was hilarious.
World Cup and international stories are the best from Gary
The difference is we getting from former players view. Which is the difference. Players who have gone the distance, much respect. Gary and Alan and Micah. Regardless of what MIcah when you burst on the scene you fifa stats were high. You were always my right back in FIFA that time. Unlucky on the injuries. You had the potential to be great bro. Keep going. Great podcast.
Gary, I love you being a Spurs fan, but me and my boy love these. I wasn't convinced in Micah, but he's great and doing a wonderful job in this format. You cover Pre Premier League, start of the premier league and modern day, well done! I love that Micah is respecting you finally as a baller!! Long may this podcast continue, I see Sky is copying it now. All the best to the three of you
What’s interesting is the R9 most people know is the post-injury one and even them he was deemed an all time great. Most don’t know the R9 in the mid to late 90s
Cristiano Ronaldo has actually become somehow underrated.
Best podcast out
Of course a football podcast with 2 football legends (and Micah) is going to do well
I love Micah but what he said while comparing R9 and CR7 was nonsense. Thanks to Garry for correcting
Micah needs to start commentating during games. R9 shone in a Brazilian team with Ronaldinho (Ballon d'Or winner), Kaka (Ballon d'Or winner), Rivaldo (Ballan d'Or winner), Carlos (Madrid GOAT), and Cafu. For context, R9 played 98 times for Brazil with knee injuries throughout his career, which resulted in multiple clubs. He also was diagnosed with a thyroid condition which resulted in weight gain. Had he been playing in the modern game today, he would average 40-50 goals per season when you look at Haaland and Mbappe and what they are doing with a fraction of his talent.
Oh my gosh, it just gets better by the week!! Micah’s smile and belly laughs are the best!
14:07 Just to add a little bit, he was flying in the 2002 WC. What a player!
Totally agree that Hoddle has to be in the convo on the best English midfielder, alongside with Stevie, Scholes (I didn't hear Lamps name but I'm assuming he was mentioned) and Gazza. 😊
Love this podcast. Much as I love CR7 and think he's an amazing footballer and machine, R9 was nothing more than tremendous! Even with all those injuries he was still a phenomenal footballer. By the way, trophies outside of football, the Masters and the Ashes I can understand but the Ryder Cup is something really special!
Under the cosh is another great podcast
It’s obviously the original, and best Ronaldo
Great Episode as usual. How to you message questions in?
16:05 when Gary says "recently" it could be anything between yesterday and 2004.
R9 is no doubt the better of the two a phenomenal talent
@pn074
7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
I saw a video where Marcel Desailly, Lilian Thuram and Frank Lebouf discuss ways to stop Ronaldo before the '98 world cup final. A back line like that being even the tiniest bit worried about a player is the highest form of respect they could afford to an opponent. Damn those glass knees of his, he would've been an alien if not for them. Long live El fenomeno!!
That zabaleta bit never get old lmao
I'm obsessed with this podcast. Incredible
Speaking on halftime entertainment. A few seasons ago West Ham would have a girl called Harper sing at every game at halftime. She was signed to West Ham Records. No idea what happened with it all
Can we buy Alan a tripod for his phone at least? 😆
Ronaldo always be my idol, my GOAT. I just love when he playing
Micah is a positivity and good vibes GOAT ❤
hence ... a great podcast
Links zaboletta payout to Micah was timed To perfection
In a shitty world, this brightens it up.
Seen both Ronaldos play, R9 was a class above Cr7.
@pn074
7 ай бұрын
I've seen both play and Cr7 was massively above R9
Ronaldo is the best player I’ve seen, definitely. Cristiano is great and achieved far more at club level but club football changed so much in that time. It’s such a small amount of clubs that can win things now, 20 years ago clubs were far closer in ability as money gap wasn’t so vast.
25:30 Gary Lineker troll job 😂😂😂😂😂
Good show. Take on R9 and Cristiano is rubbish though.
Question as well for you and Alan. Could Gazza have been as good as Zidane?
This was a great idea guys.