Why Diving Is Ruining The Game & The Pressures Of Taking Penalties | EP 64

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What was it like playing against Sam Allardyce’s Bolton in the early 2000’s? Why do we put ourselves through the highs and lows of playing fantasy football? How do you define what a ‘world class’ player is?
Gary, Alan and Micah also discuss the emotions of taking a high pressure penalty.
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00:00 - Intro
00:30 - Liverpool v Newcastle
05:30 - Trent In Midfield & Liverpool’s Form
16:48 - Ange Ball Failing?
20:31 - World Class Players
24:10 - Rangers & Celtic In The PL
26:00 - Manager Transfer Window
27:15 - Big Sam’s Bolton
29:10 - High Pressure Penalties
37:30 - Alan On A Panel Show

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  • @barryelvin6600
    @barryelvin66004 ай бұрын

    Penalties must have been hard for Gary, as it is twice as far as Gary's usual goals.

  • @dreamer2355

    @dreamer2355

    4 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @GertBowker

    @GertBowker

    4 ай бұрын

    lmao

  • @mattford9044
    @mattford90444 ай бұрын

    Klopp appears to be the only manager using 15/16 players per game which is a compliment to the quality of the squad he has built.

  • @Rabnalldo

    @Rabnalldo

    4 ай бұрын

    Great management. Don't understand why more managers don't utilise this every game. To have a winger, for example, push hard for 60 mins knowing they are only playing 60 mins match then a sub coming on like for like giving it twice the intensity as their only playing for 30mins. Up against an opposition full back that is playing 90mins will get destroyed. U do that in 4 other key positions and u should win the game. Sounds straight forward and simple yet as u said Klopp does seem to be the only 1 to utilise the extra subs.

  • @drdassler

    @drdassler

    4 ай бұрын

    All of a sudden he's rotating after using the same dozen players every time for years. 🤣

  • @STST

    @STST

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@RabnalldoKieran Mckenna does it in the championship with Ipswich. They are currently 2nd (having just come up from league 1) and have scored more goals from the bench than any team in all 4 leagues. He changes the 2 wingers, Number 10 and number 9 around 60 mins. It definitely works. Most of our goals are in the last 20 mins.

  • @siraajuddin736
    @siraajuddin7364 ай бұрын

    I didn’t see Alan say anything about when Isak dived against Nottingham Forest?

  • @GIBBO4182

    @GIBBO4182

    4 ай бұрын

    Because he didn't dive!

  • @siraajuddin736

    @siraajuddin736

    4 ай бұрын

    @@GIBBO4182 neither did Jota then

  • @GIBBO4182

    @GIBBO4182

    4 ай бұрын

    @@siraajuddin736 ok…someone has never played football

  • @edglue6138

    @edglue6138

    4 ай бұрын

    Behave. Clear pen He had an open goal. Why would he dive?

  • @siraajuddin736

    @siraajuddin736

    4 ай бұрын

    @@GIBBO4182 all I know is. Jota dived and so did Isak. I’m not denying Jota dived but call everyone out on diving and not just when a Liverpool player does it.

  • @michaelaperkins32
    @michaelaperkins324 ай бұрын

    Soon as he takes another step with his left he goes down, this was the ankle the keeper caught with his elbow. Wouldn't even be up for debate had this been Kane or Grealish, the narrative would be the keeper made contact and they were clever

  • @razakhan9102
    @razakhan91024 ай бұрын

    Same shearer who lauded calvert Lewin for being "cute and clever" falling over on a header to get a pen against Liverpool same shearer who wrote about "whats a players supposed to do when they are touched in the Box?" His regional bias is unreal! Newcastle keeper admitted he made contact

  • @joshuatan3039
    @joshuatan30394 ай бұрын

    when jota dives, it is an embarrassment. when harry kane dives, it is clever.

  • @BruceLee1.0

    @BruceLee1.0

    4 ай бұрын

    I don't think Harry Kane would dive after beating the goalkeeper and have an open goal to score. That dive was pretty dumb

  • @joshuatan3039

    @joshuatan3039

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BruceLee1.0 id like to see you being tripped whilst running at full speed.

  • @joshuatan3039

    @joshuatan3039

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BruceLee1.0 kzread.info/dash/bejne/doimr9SEkpCum7w.html

  • @user-tg6vq1kn6v

    @user-tg6vq1kn6v

    4 ай бұрын

    Any English player gets a free pass on here

  • @daveyfunk

    @daveyfunk

    4 ай бұрын

    I'm a Spurs and Kane fan and I'd agree with you. It's a plague on the game and can't be one rule for some and another rule for others. All players should be criticised and Kane definitely has a habit of going down too easily at times

  • @paulharris869
    @paulharris8694 ай бұрын

    Players are coached to dive even at non league level. The rules are the problem as players get punished by refs for staying on their feet, instead of taking a dive and getting a free kick.

  • @chrismiller6317
    @chrismiller63174 ай бұрын

    Great show as always lads,the other reason is I can’t remember when I last saw a penalty given where the player has stayed on his feet,and the shirt pulling in the area,and all you hear from most pundits is if they gave a penalty every time there was a shirt pull you would be giving 10 penalties a game,2 answers to that,1 what’s the point pundits are trying to make,2 GIVE THE PENS and then perhaps they will how to defend properly.👍👏💥❤️

  • @nathant9292
    @nathant92924 ай бұрын

    Micah explaining how his head had gone because of Salah missing a pen for his fantasy team has brought back some memories I thought I had buried deep enough 😱 good to laugh at his misfortune as a now neutral though 😂

  • @ACsPianoCorner

    @ACsPianoCorner

    4 ай бұрын

    Micah is certainly not wrong. I had Salah as my captain this week in Fantasy Football and I was losing it too with that first penalty miss. Then by the end of the match (with his goal, assist and all the fantasy football points) all was forgiven. 😂

  • @r4h4al

    @r4h4al

    4 ай бұрын

    I know. Isn't fantasy football meant to be for kids?

  • @MrBatchy123
    @MrBatchy1234 ай бұрын

    Amazing how they focus on Jota but not the appalling dive by Isak. Jota didn’t dive the keeper hit his leg and admitted to it.

  • @Magpie74

    @Magpie74

    4 ай бұрын

    Contact doesn't automatically mean a foul

  • @MrBatchy123

    @MrBatchy123

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Magpie74 but it does when it stops a goal scoring chance and also makes no attempt for the ball. The keeper wasn’t even close to the ball when he made contact. If he doesn’t touch Jota he slots it into an empty net. As he impeded him by the time Jota gets the ball the angle is probably far too tight to score. If he doesn’t go down and doesn’t score, people will say he should have gone down. He goes down on contact and yes exaggerates it and then he’s called out for diving. Many a time Lineker and Shearer have seen a Kane dive and said (a) it’s clever play or (b) he’s entitled to dive as he’s been touched. But because Jota is not English he’s dived and cheated. Didn’t see Alan calling out Isak when he wasn’t even touched and dived to win a penalty vs N Forest. The media have encouraged diving more than anyone else.

  • @Magpie74

    @Magpie74

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@MrBatchy123 goal scoring opportunity? He took 2/3 steps b4 going down. He denied himself the opportunity and all these players act the hard man but then reckon thats enough to bring them down in that fashion?

  • @kemchy3838

    @kemchy3838

    4 ай бұрын

    Yh because tapping someone on the shoulder is the same as knocking someone running off their feet

  • @Magpie74

    @Magpie74

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@kemchy3838 yh because he was really knocked off his feet wasnt he????? He stayed up til he thought he wasn't gonna reach the ball and then dived. So he'd already shown the contact wasnt enough to bring him down and if you wanna continue to try n be a start arse, Longstaff should have had a penalty then cos there was contact there too. Cant have it both ways. Longstaff's was deemed as not enough contact so other one should have been ruled the same way - end off. Now you obviously heavy bias and will no doubt continue black is white so you can do that on your own cos logic is obviously lost of you

  • @MrSkeeta01
    @MrSkeeta014 ай бұрын

    Love hearing about fantasy football through Micah's ups and downs in that Liverpool game, I and many millions are just like Micah. He should be our porte-parole😊

  • @og87
    @og874 ай бұрын

    I loved they think it’s all over. It was genuinely class. Loved that show. Question of sport but with more humour.

  • @markmccarron1851
    @markmccarron18514 ай бұрын

    Brilliant as always boys! Ball placement for penalties was good too hear & don’t stress too much on the fantasy football Big Meeks🤪.

  • @TheWorldClassStamp
    @TheWorldClassStamp4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for reading out our question guys 20:07, we love the show!

  • @FOXYZBACK93
    @FOXYZBACK934 ай бұрын

    Micah is older than me but I remember the last few seasons of they think it's all over... Gary and Rory as team mates and I'm sure Jonathan Ross was on it too

  • @BrianLough
    @BrianLough4 ай бұрын

    Liverpool had tonnes of injuries when klopp first took over too, its probably some combination of: - players getting used to it - getting players in who are better suited to it - similarly to first point, but the team implmenting more sports science side of things (and maybe the darker side of this too)

  • @Rain188
    @Rain1884 ай бұрын

    He had an open goal 1) he didn’t need to dive 2) usually player don’t get up so fast on their feet when they dive, he immediately jumped up because he was angry

  • @kidfuryplayzyt3017

    @kidfuryplayzyt3017

    4 ай бұрын

    FINALLY SOMEONE WITH COMMON SENSE

  • @cookieshooky
    @cookieshooky4 ай бұрын

    Love you guys! You're always so funny 😂

  • @A-Port-In-Any-Storm
    @A-Port-In-Any-Storm4 ай бұрын

    really spoiling us with the episodes this week (though the rooney one was a bit weird)

  • @mrgames-Will
    @mrgames-Will4 ай бұрын

    The best pod in a long time!

  • @thefacelessquestion3333
    @thefacelessquestion33334 ай бұрын

    I think Newcastle went far beyond expectations from when the takeover happened. Now they're in a bit of where they should be in the grand scheme of things.

  • @JordZz1981

    @JordZz1981

    4 ай бұрын

    yehh, was always gonna be a slow build

  • @Do27gg

    @Do27gg

    4 ай бұрын

    Agree, potentially same with arsenal

  • @MS-sy8ls
    @MS-sy8ls4 ай бұрын

    Diving for pens is a scourge on our game. And Gary is right - VAR, which is supposed to be there to aid the game, just encourages it

  • @WaniZame
    @WaniZame4 ай бұрын

    Is the injuries not just the consequence of them being pure athletes now? I think Micah was getting at this but I feel like players back in the day didn’t push their bodies to the same limits so got less injuries.

  • @klownssuck9478
    @klownssuck94784 ай бұрын

    haha Im with Michah, I play FPL and have a deal with mates in a little league that the winner each month gets brought lunch buy the others. So theres food on the line man :D As for the dive, I think he was just giving Salah the FPL points as he had him as his captain :D But the main thing to worry about is if there was no contact Jota would score, there was contact and Liverpool score, made no difference in the end. Saying that if I was a Newcastle fan I would feel hard done by on that one, as a Liverpool fan, i'll take it because we have had so many bad VAR calls against us this season

  • @jacksmith694
    @jacksmith6944 ай бұрын

    Gary & Alan, Micah is absolutely right about Fantasy Football😂🤣. Next season you have to create one for the channel

  • @BlackWhite-lj4qb
    @BlackWhite-lj4qb4 ай бұрын

    You guys should definitely do an episode listing your World 22 top players of the current generation.

  • @ThomasSloan-kz9fu
    @ThomasSloan-kz9fu4 ай бұрын

    Regarding injuries... I think the stop start nature of the game with VAR involved is part of the issue... you warm up for a reason and stopping for 2-3 mins and then starting again a few times could trigger a hamstring issue or something maybe? I am not an expert so probably wrong 😅😊

  • @neilt1889
    @neilt18894 ай бұрын

    Big Meeks will go on there podcast as he does everything else !!!👍👍

  • @Taecoconut
    @Taecoconut4 ай бұрын

    I think it’s the playing surfaces - they did a doco on the NFL how the synthetic surfaces have correlated to more injuries

  • @tman8015
    @tman80154 ай бұрын

    You should start a Rest is Football FPL league for next season

  • @craigdavis1307
    @craigdavis13074 ай бұрын

    This may be too simple but why can’t two clubs agree in advance of an FA cup game that the result will be settled any not replayed? If both clubs agree it avoids the replay but it does not stop smaller clubs getting replays against large clubs and the financial benefits.

  • @fulleylonely1138
    @fulleylonely11384 ай бұрын

    Question for you guys: if you were playing in a game where the team needed to score a penalty to take the game to a shootout and you could only take one penalty. Would you rather take the penalty to send it to a penalty shootout but not take one during it or give the deciding penalty away and take it in the shootout?

  • @spockks
    @spockks4 ай бұрын

    He needed to dive because the keeper did touch his feet and delayed his run, making him unable to reach the ball (in his mind).

  • @lukemckenzie8183
    @lukemckenzie81834 ай бұрын

    For the Angeball question, I think it does cause more injuries as it was the same when he was at Celtic

  • @martinharper2215
    @martinharper22154 ай бұрын

    Always used to love They Think It's All Over. I remember when they raced around Silverstone on Go Karts 🤣

  • @BennyTang1021
    @BennyTang10214 ай бұрын

    Not sure if this commemt will be seen Loving the show, it has been one of my most anticipated things during a week I do have a suggestion for the show. I am watching the show on here KZread obviously, and loving micahs infectious laughter you guys banter and all. But when you guys are talking about some incident in the week (e.g. Jota dive in this case) Would it be possible to inlcude a short clip of that in the video? So that for those who does not follow everything in the week can easily know what you are talking about, instead of searching on internet and come back Again loved the show, hope this suggestion finds you well

  • @jagonchichon590
    @jagonchichon5904 ай бұрын

    World class has to be about accepting the responsibility to impact/win the game and not hiding when things get difficult (i.e., embracing the pressure)

  • @NoFrictionZone
    @NoFrictionZone4 ай бұрын

    Has anyone seen that YT short video of Micah's dive with Villa? 😂😂😂😂

  • @michaelkneale3825
    @michaelkneale38254 ай бұрын

    Wasn't Anelka at Bolton wanderers for a brief time?

  • @turtleplop4901

    @turtleplop4901

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes, 2006/07 i think .. on a side note he is the number one answer for most pub quiz questions you don't know the answer to.. Underated player.

  • @kamogelomhlantla5046
    @kamogelomhlantla50464 ай бұрын

    Shearer speaking on Klopp's passion on the sidlines: "You almost have to admire how much he cares for the club and his players Shearer speaking on Arteta's passion on the sidelines: "It's a bit embarassing and probably not what the players want to see from their manager" Why is the energy different??

  • @stehill6543
    @stehill65434 ай бұрын

    If Jota stayed on his feet and missed the chance, everyone would be saying "there was contact, go down". He can't possibly win in this situation. If there was no contact from Dubravka, VAR would have overruled it. Alan has praised Harry Kane in the past for going down easily, where is the consistency?

  • @verselines

    @verselines

    4 ай бұрын

    English bias, what else is new? Alan was insufferable in this episode.

  • @simonoliver8576

    @simonoliver8576

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@verselineswell apparently he stuck up for luis suarez years back for a similar incident to the jota one pal where guzan was the keeper and suarez went down and got a pen I think its because he is a newcastle fan so he is biased in that respect when its against his team its different however other than that he is quite complimentary re liverpool in general to be fair I just think it shows all pundits are biased really and often contradict themselves when it comes to referee calls 🤔

  • @Youafool500

    @Youafool500

    4 ай бұрын

    Nah mate he dived, as a striker who ain’t on the pens, don’t know why he did it, saying that he is unselfish as evident with the Jones goal

  • @r4h4al
    @r4h4al4 ай бұрын

    The question about Bolton, Gary, was clearly meant for the other two, because they were playing during that era.

  • @andyc3408
    @andyc34084 ай бұрын

    I think they need to revise the advantage rule. If they did the same as rugby, meaning that they could allow advantage, but call it back if the advantage didn't work out, I think it would incentivise players to stay on their feet. That way they get 2 chances to score.

  • @azalikmar2
    @azalikmar24 ай бұрын

    If it is due to the pitches, then it has to be down to the boot providers to give the players the proper footwear. Probably leaning towards conical studs rather than blades

  • @tomstretton1844
    @tomstretton18444 ай бұрын

    If you had to make a squad of 25 players including 3 keepers then whoever gets in that squad is world class

  • @BumFluffer1999
    @BumFluffer19994 ай бұрын

    I think the injuries are to do with the intensity of the sport being increased yearly and because coaches are making the game faster & faster and even more physically demanding, you’re just shortening your own players’ careers even if they have elite endurance.

  • @pulleyfm8585

    @pulleyfm8585

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, it's a big part. Plus counter intuitively the increased number of subs means coaches and players don't have to converse themselves at all. Footballs gone from being an aerobic heavy sport to a much more anaerobic sport. There's way more off the ball running being done to pull defenders around and even bottom table sides will have 7 or 8 guys in the box at times on both ends of the pitch.

  • @WangPaste

    @WangPaste

    4 ай бұрын

    Or players are just soft these days... go back 30 years, look at the brutal tackles and the boggy pitches and tell me there wasn't more chance of injuries back then.... If today's players were only paid when they are fit and available for selection then the number of injuries would half overnight..., fact

  • @pulleyfm8585

    @pulleyfm8585

    4 ай бұрын

    @@WangPasteThe boggy pitches are safer to play on than the modern grass/synthetic carpets they have today. Mud and dirt gives way, modern ones catch and rip ligaments/muscles in half

  • @jeremywilliams5107
    @jeremywilliams51074 ай бұрын

    I'd like to ask the strikers on this podcast: if they were through on goal and were touched by the keeper, but could still get to the ball and score, would they fall down and get a penalty which they know they won't be taking, or would they carry on?

  • @thebigjr1

    @thebigjr1

    4 ай бұрын

    As Gary explains - Jota has taken too heavy of a touch which in the moment he worries he won’t be able to reach. However because he felt some contact he decides to go down. The reason I use the word ‘decides’ is because of the delay between contact and going down. So to answer your point - it’s better to win a penalty for your team than knock it out of play for a goal kick

  • @andrewwright4195

    @andrewwright4195

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@thebigjr1100% that football nowadays everyone does it

  • @jamesfitzpatrick847

    @jamesfitzpatrick847

    4 ай бұрын

    So if in that theory what your saying is correct and his touch is to heavy is that not because of the keepers contact? For me it's a foul if he missed they wouldn't have given a pen because he stayed on his feet that's where the problem is. If it's enough to make him take a heavy touch it's a foul simple really and as for the delay it's not as much of a delay as some are making out. The keeper knocks him out of his stride it's simple it's a foul he didn't get the ball

  • @GravelordWrust

    @GravelordWrust

    4 ай бұрын

    @@thebigjr1 This doesn't answer his question: 1 - Because you didn't read it properly. 2 - You're not one of the strikers on the pod.

  • @jeremywilliams5107

    @jeremywilliams5107

    4 ай бұрын

    @jamesfitzpatrick847 No question about the foul and penalty, it's just the choice between scoring a goal yourself or having someone else score one. If the striker is really wanting the goal then he will carry on. Personally I think Jota could have got the ball and scored himself but seems he didn't.

  • @matthewmoloney2336
    @matthewmoloney23364 ай бұрын

    Apart from when an English player does it There was contact btw. Its a penalty.

  • @user-et3ns9ym4l
    @user-et3ns9ym4l4 ай бұрын

    Regarding Rangers and Celtic, I think you missed the fact that the standard of teams they are playing against falls well below the standard of the premiership, which is why they stand out. Neither of them win anything when they go into Europe and are often bounced out very early on against better oppositon. If they were considered to join the English league it should be at the level of League one at best.

  • @robertanderson8458

    @robertanderson8458

    4 ай бұрын

    If the old firm were allowed to join the English league they would be challenging for European spots within 3 or 4 seasons. At the moment Scottish football doesn't have the finance to even compete with championship teams in terms of wages. You are correct about the weekly level they play at but they are 2 of the biggest supported clubs in the world. If they had finance to offer Premier league transfer fees and wages the would both be top 6.

  • @nellypringle2875
    @nellypringle28754 ай бұрын

    On the point of Eddie Howe being under pressure, it's more of a crossroads for the owners than it is for him: what kind of club are they trying to build? Is it the Chelsea model, where the managers come and go every other season depending on immediate levels of success, or is it the City/Liverpool model, where the managers are given time? I would hope it's the latter, as a Toon fan.

  • @danielmcmanus9298

    @danielmcmanus9298

    4 ай бұрын

    Hopefully they will give him time as long as they keep going in the right direction, done beyond anyone could have expected so far. Good too see the toon doing well, Liverpool fan here

  • @oClxssy
    @oClxssy4 ай бұрын

    Jota was going at pace, goalkeeper hits his left foot, he tried to keep going but lost balance due to the touch on his foot. If it wasn’t a foul, VAR would have overturned it.

  • @neilmc1842
    @neilmc18424 ай бұрын

    Funny how they call out a foreign for ''diving'' yet when its kane, gordon, grealish its clever play

  • @bobkendall1244
    @bobkendall12444 ай бұрын

    Q: What would it take for harry kane to win the ballon d’or this coming year? If everything goes in his favour, he could win the bundesliga whilst breaking the record for most goals in a season, have a good shot at the champions league, whilst captaining england as the favourites to win the euros this summer. Assuming that Haaland, Bellingham and Mbappe may be his competition - what will it take?

  • @johnstewart3011

    @johnstewart3011

    4 ай бұрын

    Winning the euros

  • @Do27gg

    @Do27gg

    4 ай бұрын

    He’s got a better chance to win it at Bayern

  • @Richards80

    @Richards80

    4 ай бұрын

    A FUCKING MIRACLE 😂

  • @bobkendall1244

    @bobkendall1244

    4 ай бұрын

    @@johnstewart3011 do you think that would be enough to stand him out enough against bellingham?

  • @johnstewart3011

    @johnstewart3011

    4 ай бұрын

    @@bobkendall1244 who knows? Ballon dor seems to be more of a popularity contest, also depends on what Jude achieves.

  • @eoinf2773
    @eoinf27734 ай бұрын

    Alan Shearer the most prolific penalty-taker in Premier League history. Id say he knows about diving

  • @sonnypembleton6706

    @sonnypembleton6706

    4 ай бұрын

    So just because he was an amazing penalty taker that means he dived? You can take penalties from other players being fouled. Give your head a wobble matey

  • @gl1363

    @gl1363

    4 ай бұрын

    Going by your logic I should be a trillionare now because I really know how to spend money 😂

  • @chrispalmer7893
    @chrispalmer78934 ай бұрын

    Of all the hypocrisies in modern football, the greatest is watching all these ex-pros pretend that diving is a modern phenomenon. That, and the weird fixation on diving when other forms of cheating are ignored or even applauded. Deliberately fouling a player to prevent a break away is cheating, but is called "taking one for the team". Claiming it's your corner or throw-in when you know the ball came off you is cheating, but it goes completely uncommented. Oh, there's the ever-present hypocrisy over diving seemingly in favour of English players; the favoured English player (the most egregious example in recent years being Harry Kane) was "clever" in how he won that free kick or penalty where a foreign player would be attacked for diving in the exact same circumstances. The truth about diving is not that it happens more now than it used to, it's that as video technology improved we got better replays and we see it more frequently. It was always there (yes, even in English football despite what you might have heard about "foreign influences" bringing such evils to our hallowed game...)

  • @derryhorgan
    @derryhorgan4 ай бұрын

    I think the injuries are partly down to var a lot more standing around and stop start waiting on decisions waiting on var

  • @WangPaste
    @WangPaste4 ай бұрын

    Diving is a part of football now whether we like it or not and its actually become a skill... Most of todays players grown up with it and have probably been doing their entire footballing lives since schoolboy days. In my day you'd have been likely to be kicked by your teammates and manager for diving but now players get instructed to go to ground at the slightest touch in the penalty area....

  • @user-hf4ql9hq3n
    @user-hf4ql9hq3n4 ай бұрын

    hi guys I would like to ask all three of you About knee slides after scoring a goal. do you think given the injuries that are happening that it puts a strai muscles and joints. I love all your chat and humour.

  • @leekite13
    @leekite134 ай бұрын

    Loving the podcast lads Gary would you ever take the England job if asked

  • @ScottsBigCountry
    @ScottsBigCountry4 ай бұрын

    I always defined world class means the player is in the top 3 players in their position. But yeah, world class now means much less than back in the 90s/00s

  • @TerryWaitesRadiator
    @TerryWaitesRadiator4 ай бұрын

    How could var have overturned it? The ref gave it, var saw there was contact. That's not a clear and obvious error because the ref has thought there was contact and VAR have confirmed it.

  • @Badonicus
    @Badonicus4 ай бұрын

    The only thing that dived was Newcastles form this season.

  • @williamdear7938

    @williamdear7938

    4 ай бұрын

    Hilarious.

  • @samjames792

    @samjames792

    4 ай бұрын

    Deluded

  • @brettharter143

    @brettharter143

    4 ай бұрын

    No LiVARpool spent alot of the game throwing themselves on the floor and got two pens from it

  • @georgeyboy5256

    @georgeyboy5256

    4 ай бұрын

    & Jota.

  • @pauljackson2013

    @pauljackson2013

    4 ай бұрын

    Rose tinted specs

  • @tvgcmma9215
    @tvgcmma92154 ай бұрын

    Ange is style of play, or more importantly training, is a partly to blame for injuries but ange has said this himself as takes a while for players to adapt to changes but it’s not a long term thing just first 6 months as adapt to change of training

  • @realife1542
    @realife15424 ай бұрын

    It’s part of football now, if a player feels any contact they falling like they got by a sniper

  • @nabillarif
    @nabillarif4 ай бұрын

    Alan... Be a professional... You are giving this lovely podcast a sour name.... Chill bro

  • @dman9152
    @dman91524 ай бұрын

    When Harry kane gets a penalty in the euros like Jota's, they will call him clever.

  • @chilton7853
    @chilton78534 ай бұрын

    31:09 “Steve! Steve!”

  • @kofigeorge1156
    @kofigeorge11564 ай бұрын

    Have any of you look at the replay? Klopp is a General. This is why Klopp was smiling from ear to ear in preseason, he knew what he had to work with

  • @Alex-li9cv
    @Alex-li9cv4 ай бұрын

    Anyone know what hoodie Micah’s wearing

  • @markdurham7939
    @markdurham79394 ай бұрын

    I wonder what shearer thinks about Gordon constantly diving

  • @colinhamilton7204
    @colinhamilton72044 ай бұрын

    Question of sport was my favourite especially phill tuffers absolutely 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @lukemorris4065
    @lukemorris40654 ай бұрын

    Honestly he’s right. But the attackers diving isn’t what’s ruining it the most it’s defenders/midfielders. If they fall over in their own half it’s a foul 99% of the time, really pathetic to watch

  • @wpmarkuk
    @wpmarkuk4 ай бұрын

    Regarding the Jota "dive". I think that the VAR got this (almost) right. Their role is to find definitive evidence that the decision the referee made was wrong. There was contact, and therefore can VAR say the referee was 100% wrong. I am not so sure. What I do think should have happened though, is that the VAR should have recommended to the referee to look at this again on the monitor as there is enough doubt. This is an example of an incident in a match were VAR doesn't help, in fact it makes it worse.

  • @philippepalmer2968
    @philippepalmer29684 ай бұрын

    are you going to also have awards for best & worse VAR decision of well 2023 as well because it'd be interesting to hear what you come up with and more importantly all agree on and also awards for women's football,best player,best team etc

  • @vonpiit
    @vonpiit4 ай бұрын

    Fantasy Football ruins the way you watch games so I take some distance to it while I watch games. Still play it, just abit casual.

  • @dardobartoli
    @dardobartoli4 ай бұрын

    Loved Jota at WW, but not his diving. Hate it with a passion. Look at Kilman recently, headbutted, albeit lightly, but because he didn't go down like being shot in the head, nothing given

  • @markdavis8430
    @markdavis84304 ай бұрын

    Can we not all agree The players will always do what they can to win! It’s the rules and the people running football that are killing it! Not the players There only playing the game

  • @Lee-lm9xi
    @Lee-lm9xi4 ай бұрын

    Alan hates diving but has no problem kicking a a player on the floor in the face

  • @barrycallan2784
    @barrycallan27844 ай бұрын

    On the injuries thing. Maybe stems from the whole knock-on effect from lockdown and schedule alterations. Then all the international games, plus world cup at the wrong time in the wrong place, all that extra travel,how is it a surprise that there are extra injuries? Look at all the young players suffering burnout early in their careers.

  • @cwils9797
    @cwils97974 ай бұрын

    Nothing wrong with Ange ball, it’s still working and will continue to work. It’s the Spurs medical staff that are the issue, we always get stupid injuries.

  • @Vertibirde
    @Vertibirde4 ай бұрын

    Shearer himself was brilliant at throwing himself over under no pressure, people in glass houses and all that.

  • @chrispalmer7893

    @chrispalmer7893

    4 ай бұрын

    Oh no no no no... Shearer was "clever". That's what it's called when an England player does it.

  • @markdavis8430

    @markdavis8430

    4 ай бұрын

    @@chrispalmer7893So true 😂

  • @ayoutubechannel7143

    @ayoutubechannel7143

    4 ай бұрын

    You clearly didn't grow up watching Shearer. English players can be just as bad, sure. Kane is one of the biggest divers in the game right now. But Shearer wasn't one of them

  • @chrispalmer7893

    @chrispalmer7893

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ayoutubechannel7143 No, he took more than a couple of dives in his time. Will grant you that Kane was worse, but I think that's more down to differences in how they played and the positions they tended to get into rather than because Shearer has some sort of moral high ground here.

  • @Do27gg

    @Do27gg

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ayoutubechannel7143he definitely has dived more times than jota

  • @Shamusving
    @Shamusving4 ай бұрын

    Amazed there's so many kids trying defend Jota.

  • @cullzo
    @cullzo4 ай бұрын

    Gary and Alan lose a lot of credibility when there calling out Jota but NEVER called out Harry Kane. Who I’ve watched dive at least 10 times during the PL area or for England

  • @mrhussain9008
    @mrhussain90084 ай бұрын

    I totally agree with Micah about the quality of player right now is not great. Just compare the top 15 strikers in the world in 2013 2014 to now. NOT IN ORDER (btw most of these players were under 33) 1. Luis Suarez 2. MessI 3. Lewandowski 4. Zlatan 5. Benzema 6. RVP 7. CR7 8. Diego Costa 9. Aguero 10. Falcao 11. Mandzukic 12. Dzeko 13. Tevez 14. Cavani 15. Rooney Now do the top 15 strikers now under 33 NOT IN ORDER 1. Kane 2. Mbappe 3. Osimhen 4. Haaland 5. Toney? 6. Watkins? 7. Nkunku? 8. Gabby Jesus? 9. Honestly I need help, at this rate Nketiah and Hojlund will make the top 15 It's shocking how far the talent has fallen.

  • @Robert_Blair
    @Robert_Blair4 ай бұрын

    Jota went down on the next step he made on the ankle that was clattered by the goalkeeper's elbow. He decided to go down, but there is no doubt that he was knocked off his stride and probably out of confidence in finishing the chance.

  • @SueMyChin

    @SueMyChin

    4 ай бұрын

    That doesn't mean it's a foul. Watch jota's right foot, he can clearly put his foot down normally and recover his balance but he instead drags his toes and goes down. Football is a contact sport and a slight touch is not a foul.

  • @Robert_Blair

    @Robert_Blair

    4 ай бұрын

    @@SueMyChin Football is a contact sport until contact gives an advantage to one player over their opponent. In this case, Jota was knocked off his stride and out of an easy goal. In all this debate about diving the question "why gamble on a penalty appeal when it seemed easier to tap the ball into an open net" is not being considered enough. If we set aside the sensationalist nonsense and assess the situation logically, we might find a reasonable, even if anticlimactic, answer. Jota likely felt he couldn't score and the reason for that is because he was impeded. Even the slightest touch can gain a huge advantage. The difference between fair contact and foul contact is the outcome not the intent.

  • @SueMyChin

    @SueMyChin

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Robert_Blair The whole point in making contact with your opponant is to gain an advantage. It's within the rules that you're allowed to do so. It's not a foul. Like a defender putting his arm accross an attacker gives him an advantage but isn't a foul. He dived because his touch wasn't great and might not have got to the ball.

  • @Do27gg

    @Do27gg

    4 ай бұрын

    Spot on. There’s a difference between an actual dive and going down to show you’ve been fouled

  • @Robert_Blair

    @Robert_Blair

    4 ай бұрын

    @@SueMyChin Contact is unavoidable that is why most of it is tolerated. Gaining an advantage from said contact is foul play, that is the rule.

  • @leeratcliffe1332
    @leeratcliffe13324 ай бұрын

    Micah said Eddie Howe is honest in his interviews lol, Did Eddie not say “longstaff should have had a penalty” and “Dubravka didn’t touch Jota”, but both players have publicly came out and contradicted their manager, Dubravka said “My elbow caught Jota” and Longstaff said “It was no way a penalty when I was touched”, so if the players that made the mistake or got brought down didn’t think either incident was incorrect then how is that Eddie being honest? Dubravka and Longstaff where honest, Eddie was doing what managers do and blowing off steam, I wonder how he (EH) will deal with Dubravka and Longstaff for publicly contradicting him….? Will he do like Klopp did to Mamadou Sakho when he publicly embarrassed Klopp? Never played him again and sold him in the next window, I doubt it lol

  • @paulgibbons2320
    @paulgibbons23204 ай бұрын

    Linkers generation started it. The Italians in Italia 90 were shocking. We've been trying to emulate them ever since. Alan's right it's sxxt.

  • @petermeades196
    @petermeades1964 ай бұрын

    Do you think the December World Cup has something to do with the increased injuries?

  • @andrew-jv7iv
    @andrew-jv7iv4 ай бұрын

    How about throwing all the Scottish teams into a revamped League Cup ?

  • @TC-qd1zw
    @TC-qd1zw4 ай бұрын

    If you make contact with an opponent before playing the ball, that is a foul. Simple. Use Law 18 and send them off for bringing the game into disrepute. That is International Decisions. Go on read it.

  • @markoradulovic3307
    @markoradulovic33074 ай бұрын

    What kind of Liverpool rebuild are you guys talking about, they lost 2 first eleven players and had ample time to replace them, Henderson and Milner were not first team players although important squad figures

  • @abo7628
    @abo76284 ай бұрын

    Diving isn't the problem VAR is the problem I used to coach children and with VAR now i would be telling anyone to go down for any contact, the ref isnt in charge and somewhere someone might give it

  • @mattford9044
    @mattford90444 ай бұрын

    If you put them in the premier league next season they would be relegated and would then struggle in the championship..

  • @carlos-fv1rc
    @carlos-fv1rc4 ай бұрын

    When you’re running at full speed, like Jota was, even the slightest touch of a player’s foot will cause him to lose balance, and it’s not always the first step when it happens. Jota had no reason to dive with an open goal in front of him. And Dubravka did admit there was contact

  • @Do27gg

    @Do27gg

    4 ай бұрын

    This is what amazes me, it’s not even a debate and the game wasn’t even close 😂

  • @tanglfc
    @tanglfc4 ай бұрын

    "Explain to our younger viewers what it was Gary" Micha embarrassed to say he'd never heard of it before.

  • @MA10764
    @MA107644 ай бұрын

    Dive? Gordon!

  • @andypalin3287
    @andypalin32874 ай бұрын

    Nice bathroom Alan! 😉

  • @FIHRR-bd8uy
    @FIHRR-bd8uy4 ай бұрын

    What’s going on with Alan’s extension lead 🤷‍♂️😂

  • @jhondoe1477
    @jhondoe14774 ай бұрын

    He didn't dive, he just swam

  • @Ttkoize
    @Ttkoize4 ай бұрын

    Aston Villa dived against Burnley no one talks about that

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