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@johannes5289

27 күн бұрын

@SaintMurad your intepretation of the word „tawaffa“ is correct, but your conclusion is incorrect. It is right that Jesus (as) died, but not on the cross. It says in Surah 4:158 ( when you count Bismillah as first verse otherwise it is Surah 4:157): „And their saying, ‘We did kill the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah;’ whereas they slew him not, nor crucified him, but he was made to appear to them like one crucified; and those who differ therein are certainly in a state of doubt about it; they have no definite knowledge thereof, but only follow a conjecture; and they did not convert this conjecture into a certainty;“ It appeared that Jesus (as) died on the cross, but he did not die, it appears them so (Jesus (as) was in an unconscious state). He (as) survived the cruxifixion and died afterwards a natural death.

@ferhatrecani2301

26 күн бұрын

How much costs your translation?

The Quran is so poorly written that it couldn't possibly be from a true God.

@marc3dartist601

Ай бұрын

How can a mere human came up with such a divine surah? For sure it's from the creator of the universe... O believers! Do not enter the homes of the Prophet without permission ˹and if invited˺ for a meal, do not ˹come too early and˺ linger until the meal is ready. But if you are invited, then enter ˹on time˺. Once you have eaten, then go on your way, and do not stay for casual talk. Such behaviour is truly annoying to the Prophet, yet he is too shy to ask you to leave. But Allah is never shy of the truth. And when you ˹believers˺ ask his wives for something, ask them from behind a barrier. This is purer for your hearts and theirs. And it is not right for you to annoy the Messenger of Allah, nor ever marry his wives after him. This would certainly be a major offence in the sight of Allah. 33:53

@ishtarlew598

Ай бұрын

@@marc3dartist601 😂 The Quran is the word of Satan. It's not even in chronological order and much of it only Allah understands. Jesus is far superior to Mohammed. Mohammed is not worthy of untying Jesus's sandals.

@owncraticpath

Ай бұрын

@@marc3dartist601 You claim the gospels say Jesus is God... So a J3wish man claiming to be God is surely from God... But this is somehow evidence of a fabricated narrative? Really? God supports his prophets, and honors them. Even if you fricking hate it. Mock as much as you want, we will see how that ends. I'm 100% sure i could quote a Bible verse similar to what you quoted, and you bunch of hypocrites would not reject the Bible... You are just like the Pharasies, making excuses for your rejection. وَعِبَادُ ٱلرَّحْمَـٰنِ ٱلَّذِينَ يَمْشُونَ عَلَى ٱلْأَرْضِ هَوْنًا وَإِذَا خَاطَبَهُمُ ٱلْجَـٰهِلُونَ قَالُوا۟ سَلَـٰمًا And the servants of the Almighty are they who walk upon the earth modestly, and when the ignorant address them, they speak peace; (25:63) وَٱلَّذِينَ يَبِيتُونَ لِرَبِّهِمْ سُجَّدًا وَقِيَـٰمًا And who spend the night to their Lord submitting and standing; (25:64)

@robinharwood5044

Ай бұрын

Same goes for the Bible. The bits that make sense are open to multiple interpretations, which is one of the reasons why there are so many denominations.

@owncraticpath

Ай бұрын

Do you really believe that? Can you like show an example?

Thank you for your dedication! Exposing Islam is so important.

@sayyidelahie9714

Ай бұрын

4:159 U man worshipin Pagan

@sayyidelahie9714

Ай бұрын

Xpose😂😂U Worship a Man OUT A VAGINA 😂

@Yahyajohannes

Ай бұрын

😂🤦‍♂️Nisa surah 4-161 Ayat says somthing other this yahuda friendly jewish guy is fishing christians🎣 🤷🏻‍♂️

@sayyidelahie9714

29 күн бұрын

@@Yahyajohannes SO Worshipin a Man OUT A VAGINA IS now tru by your logic

@Theunknowntruth01

29 күн бұрын

They will tell you one word in Arabic has two or more meaning, just like english has words like Father and son have multiple meanings. He just got schooled, the one that's talk doesn't know Qur'an Arabic. To us he is childsplay

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Thanks for your labor of love. The truth is being exposed that the Quran fables and legends are the work of men.

Amen and Amen! I'm going to deal with it by Living for Yasou Al Masih till my last breath 🙏❤😇❤ Shukran Jazilan Akhi!

Excellent. I have been waiting for one of the apologists to,point this out. I met an Afghan man who noticed this in the Quran and it kead him on his search for truth. He is now a follower of Jesus.

I'd like to see this argument down at speakers corner next Sunday.

@CtrAltawesome

29 күн бұрын

I don't think bob of speakers corner will be bringing it.

@Spark290

29 күн бұрын

​@@CtrAltawesome And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

@Theunknowntruth01

29 күн бұрын

They will tell you one word in Arabic has two or more meaning, just like english has words like Father and son have multiple meanings.

@Spark290

29 күн бұрын

@@Theunknowntruth01 The quran clearly says Jesus was never crucified or was killed...

@Spark290

28 күн бұрын

@Theunknowntruth01 Psalm 118: 5, 17-18 “I called upon the Lord in distress: the Lord answered me, and set me in a large place.” “I will not die, but live, and I will proclaim what the Lord has done.” “The Lord severely punished me, but he did not hand me over to death.” “I will give you thanks, for you answered me,and have become my deliverer.” “The stone which the builders discarded has become the cornerstone.” [This is a Messianic psalm which makes it explicit in verse 18 that he will not be handed over to die]

Well done sir! It's AMAZING!

Great work! Keep it coming.

Read Quran 6:60 in Arabic and be quiet… And He it is Who takes your souls at night (in sleep), and He knows what you acquire in the day, then He raises you up therein that an appointed term may be fulfilled; then to Him is your return, then He will inform you of what you were doing.

@AlexMkd1984

28 күн бұрын

stupis Muslims are decived by satan lies aka Allah 💩

@mohamedalomairi4140

26 күн бұрын

According to Quran, Jesus wasn’t killed nor crucified, but it appeared like that to the people. Rather he was ascended by God to heaven The Qur'an does not deny the death of Christ. When Allah said, ‘O Jesus, I will cause thee to die a natural death and will exalt thee to Myself, and will clear thee from the charges of those who disbelieve, and will place those who follow thee above those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differ. [3:56]

@Atanepes

25 күн бұрын

Exactly ​@@mohamedalomairi4140

@abiephraim1634

23 күн бұрын

​@@mohamedalomairi4140 biggest blunder in historical events 😅😅😅

@alibrahym

23 күн бұрын

@@mohamedalomairi4140 Please do note, there are other words with different translations depending on the context, alnisa ayah 157, literally proves the intepretations of the muslims to be right.

Nice work pointing out the fallacy in their argument, Saint Murad ❤

Thank you brother for your work,God bless

God continue to bless you! He has raised up a powerful voice, we praise Him and thank you so very greatly for your undying work of truth exposing the biggest lie to humanity. Peace of Christ and much love to you and your family. Shalom

I just subscribed, thank you for this🙏 I look forward to your future videos 💯

Mutawafeeka Is Not Same AS Yutawaffa or Tawaffani (Even A Child Can Distinguish) All Have District Meaning May Allah Curse Me If i Am Lying And YOU If You Are Lying And All Who Knows That He Is Lying But are Spreading This.

Thanks for using one of my favourite pictures of Jesus in the thumbnail lol. Great video as always ❤

Okay, if مُتَوَفِّيكَ means that Jesus died, then why Allah didn't say موت? Also why then, مُتَوَفِّيكَ has a different root word as compared to موت ? I am sure there is a difference because what I know, as a noob in Arabic, is that there are many levels when Arabs describe something. Like there are many levels of friends, anger etc.

@hafizumar107

26 күн бұрын

@@Zidane-is-the-GOAT05 Yup. It really doesn't mean the actual death. There is a word for it.

God bless you abundantly brother 🎉🎉🎉🎉 May God protect you and your family 🎉🎉🎉🎉

Read Quran 6:60 in Arabic and be quiet… And He it is Who takes your souls at night (in sleep), and He knows what you acquire in the day, then He raises you up therein that an appointed term may be fulfilled; then to Him is your return, then He will inform you of what you were doing. 

@buggivibes7579

29 күн бұрын

Seems your allah forgot to factor in the fact that some people can decide to go nights without sleeping....

@Sherif.1988

29 күн бұрын

@@buggivibes7579 seems like Blah blah blah …the majority of the world is asleep at night ..that’s what Allah created nights for..wether you chose to sleep at night or day ..that has nothing to do with the point I am making to this guy who says the Arabic word “Tawafa” is only used for death

@Belikewaterb

26 күн бұрын

So you accept that he fell into a deep sleep on the cross, and that he was not substituted unjustly with one of his disciples?

@Sherif.1988

25 күн бұрын

@@Belikewaterb never crucified never killed , do people sleep on the cross every day? How do you know Allah substituted someone unjustly? Show me

@Belikewaterb

25 күн бұрын

@@Sherif.1988 The Tasfsir claims through hersay, and conjunction, that Jesus chose 1 of his innocent disciples, who volunteered to die in his place, this is unjust, and hersay, innovations added to the Quran, making Allah look unjust.

It's been a long time bro, you haven't posted anything here! ➕➕🙏

Murad, can you translate the verses of the surah "Nuh (Noah) 71:1, 71:2,71:3, For us, the first, second and third verses are what Allah Almighty and his prophet Nuh (Noah) tell us about these verses

Of course jesus killed by his creations, but Prophet Isa saved by Allah from being crucified ❤❤❤❤

@williamgarayua5878

29 күн бұрын

Every day there are new testimonies of muslims saying that Isa Himself called them to His Way: -"I'M The WAY, The TRUTH & LIFE"

@AlexMkd1984

28 күн бұрын

Stupid Muslims allah ia not a god stop misleading fake Muslims people 😂😂😂😂

@Jesusistheway5724

28 күн бұрын

Indeed, Islam teaches a totally wrong image of Jesus 😢. Poor muslims, they are deceived.👿

@thecatholicprince

28 күн бұрын

even in Jewish prophecies, the Messiah had to be God, blood sacrifice was necessary in Judaism

@user-yc2lp7ng5v

28 күн бұрын

Jesus lived on that day. His spirit was just separated from the body he took as a vessel of salvation. Death is just the spirit leaving the body but the spirit of the individual is eternal. The spirit that entered Mary's womb to form itself a body. That body was the image and the person of Jesus christ reflecting the shadow of heavenly holiness and Godliness on earth.

A question for you Saint Murad, I have checked carefully, and I can not find in the quaran where Allah says that he is the creator of all things. The quaran states that he created all things, but unlike the Bible where The LORD GOD makes the declaration throughout the Bible, Allah makes no specific declaration. I ask because, the Muslims always asks the question, where in The Bible did JESUS say HE is GOD, worship ME. So for this reason where does Allah state in the quaran, I am the creator of all things, and I know all things. Please answer this for me. 3:55 3:55

@BukarKalli

Ай бұрын

Among others go to suratu shuraa verse no 9 It says (الله خالق كل شيء) Which means Allah the creator of everything

@alibrahym

Ай бұрын

@@BukarKalli Akhy bro its matterless to deal with them. They'll ignore and continue to mock.

@BukarKalli

Ай бұрын

@@alibrahym I am not replying for them to take it , because I knew already that they will not follow it. But If there's one person who is willing to know the truth and follow it among the people who check the comment section , I am doing it for him

@alibrahym

Ай бұрын

@@BukarKalli Im proud of you brother heart God bless you with paradise ❤❤

@BukarKalli

Ай бұрын

​@@alibrahymAmen and u also🎉🎉🎉

Which English Quran translation is best for non Arabic speakers/readers

Murad, can you translate for us the translation of Surah Al-Imran (The Family of Imran), Father Maryam (Mary) mother of the prophet Isa (Jesus) peace be upon him Verses 3:19 what kind of religion does Allah tell us in this surah

@imperia6345

26 күн бұрын

@@Zidane-is-the-GOAT05 write the verse in full

Wama katalouhou wa ma salabouhou... it's very clear

hi Murad. the link for the free download doesnt work. It just downloads so many werid files

Jesus was not crucified, it was all a CRUCIFICTION❗❌❌❌

@user-xu1hn3ic6b

27 күн бұрын

Can you reconcile 4 v 157 Jesus was killed so Allah took him to himself. Vs 3v 55 5 v 116 Then if Jesus never died is with Allah when will 19 v 33 be fulfilled from the Quran? When will Jesus die and resurect?

The SIN, Standard islamic narrative.... Which makes perfect sense, after all SIN Moon god, is the Islamic god. Approved

@alibrahym

Ай бұрын

if the moon god is in islam then the moon god is in christianity and judaism

@starlightHT

Ай бұрын

@@alibrahym Is Allah a father? NO. The God of Abraham says he is the father of the Israelite people, Jesus Christ calls God the Father... And Allah is no one's father. The only relationship you can have with him is that of slave to Master. Therefore it is not the same God. God of Abraham condemns pedophilia, slavery, war, plunder, murder and Allah loves this behavior to the point of being Opposite. It seems that Allah is Satan. Another, when Muhammad met Gabril, he was tortured and tormented to the point of wanting to commit suicide, and in the Bible no angel mistreated any human. "Leviticus 26:1 Nor set up in your land sacred pillars or carved stones to worship them." Kaaba, Black Stone.... you are a follower of the Moon god and in the eyes of Moses you are a pagan who in his time would have been stoned if you were from the Israelite tribe.

@starlightHT

Ай бұрын

@@alibrahymJust so you know pagan. Allah and Lil away from Lillah, that leaves us with lah (god), a word that is common to both names. In fact, Lah was the name for the moongod, the main Egyptian god and a god being worshiped by the Arabs.

@alibrahym

Ай бұрын

@@starlightHT Never heard anything more stupid than that. Allah comes from al-ilah al-ilah means "the god" or "something thats worth being worshipped". Allah is basically that, but genderless. Since al-ilah is a word with a gender. Allah is just a word which is genderless. Literally why dont arab christians say "ilahy ilahy" but say "Allah Allah"? You missed something mate.

@CtrAltawesome

29 күн бұрын

😂 oh dear. Allah is just a fused word that means the god. You don't get to who the god is originally by the word the god. You been watching Lloyd de Jong? 😂

What does matter if he died?

Where does it say he rose from the dead? He just died.

احسنت يا شيخ

@owncraticpath

Ай бұрын

Hey, are you the j3wish rabbi who debated on the discord of the submitters? Curious. Have you checked the work of Sam Gerrans? I don't buy the 19 thing, but perhaps you find of interest the position of the Qur'an alone and Sam has done his hermeneutical work. I invite you then to consider it. Salutations

@TeshuvahforIshmael

Ай бұрын

@@owncraticpath 19 & the true Salat go hand in hand. Work has to be done to purge all the falsehoods out, however.

@owncraticpath

Ай бұрын

@@TeshuvahforIshmael I see. Then God willing, let us keep working. Seeking truth, the path of Abraham

@Mr00000111

28 күн бұрын

are you a Jew? do you endorse the trinity which is an abomination to the Jewish creed?

IS it true that the curan and Muslims agree that Jesus was crucified, i don't understand? I have Seen the curan saying he was not killed nor crucified.

God is good so is jesus

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One should have knowledge about the Arabic language not just commenting on things from Qur'an.

وما قتلوہ و ما صلبوا That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

Your point is disproved because look at other words in the quran in the surah 12.101 like my guardian and my protector. One word means two meanings.

SIN - Standard Islamic Nonsense #WithoutliesIslamdies

Just a quick question murad as i think you might face many of these, and those who do the work should be prepared to defend it. While i agree that mutawaffika can mean death and arguably usually does mean death. we have two competing theological processes at work. The obvious sin narrative, and the earlier Christian narrative which predates the sin. So it would be not neutral to translate mutawaffika as death as that is importing the Christian theology into the translation. The author could of used yamuwt but instead opted for a more ambiguous term if he means jesus was to die. I think therefore a neutral meaning in that verse is probably take. Although i like the more poetic sleep. In any event i do think its good good to draw attention to this as thd verse is far from clear and open to a high degree of interpretation. Edit: actually i just thought of something, in the gospel of mark they is the messianic secret, that is no one really knows who jesus is and its a bit ambiguous as to who is thd person of jesus in mark, i think Muhammad is doing something similar here, i think he is talking to Christians and been purposely ambiguous to appeal for a wider audience. This opens an interesting line of enquiry.

@alibrahym

Ай бұрын

whats ur discorfd

@CtrAltawesome

Ай бұрын

@Adam-zn9yh yeah and then he tells them not to say anything, the messianic secret

@CtrAltawesome

Ай бұрын

@Adam-zn9yh mark 8.30

@CtrAltawesome

Ай бұрын

@Adam-zn9yh I think he says son of man not son of god. Anyway you can get from mark jesus divinity, you can also get from mark jesus not divinity, "why call me good! no one is good except god alone". It's ambiguous and further complicated by the fact that the Last 12 verses of mark are an interpolation. Which versions are floating around northern Arabia? Who knows. Muhammad is doing the same thing I think, taken up can mean he died, and it cannot depends on who is listening and that is reflected in the written text, it's all very ambiguous and needlessly so .

@CtrAltawesome

Ай бұрын

@Adam-zn9yh I appreciate that is your stance, what I am saying is other groups did use mark and specifically claim Jesus was a human, so they read mark obviously a bit different from yourself. Adoptionists been the main one, and church farthers write about them such as ireanaeus, Tertullian, Eusebius and others.

Pffffffff looooooool this means that you don't even know Quran. Poor thing. Such statements like this videos have been DEBUNKED.

Because tawaffa, in Arabic, means "to take". The word for "dying" is "maut". "Tawaffani musliman" means "take me(to You, O God) as a Muslim", which, in this context, means death. "Cause me to die as a Muslim" in Arabic is "Ij'alni amootu Musliman" where "amootu" comes from the root "maut". Same way, when Allah said to Jesus, "Inni mutawaffika", it means, "I will take you to me". "I will cause you to die", in Arabic, would be "Inni saaj'aluka tamoot". That is not what He said. Now one can be taken to God after dying or even not dying, as what happened to Jesus(peace be upon him). In context like "take me to you as a Muslim", "to take" here means "to cause to die". So, no, there is nothing wrong with the Quran. The fault is in your poor understanding.

ALLAH is aware of what you do.

Without lies Islam dies

@JimmyMontana-jw1ec

26 күн бұрын

@@Zidane-is-the-GOAT05 Lies about denying the death of the Lord Jesus on the cross my lil

Brother Murad will have the most accurate Quran translation. As he himself said , Muslims will throw bsnana peels on his way to show the truth .

Murad is Arabic concordance saint

--------------------💌son💌 of 🌹Mary🌹 died and rose to heaven alive by the will of 💙 God 💙 A return to nature consistent with Creation ...... A return to what has been revealed over the Prophets of 💙 God 💙 The truth is known since God created the pencil, which the Creator is absolutely alone and perfectly unique.

The Quran does not mention JESUS. The Quranic "Eesa" is equivalent to Esau, not to Yeshu. These are two different persons who lived in different eras.

The biggest threat to abdulz is reading their own books 😂

@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful

29 күн бұрын

At least Muslims understand that genocide is bad unlike man worshipers who love to see their God tortured and killed💀

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Hey here is a Verse for you in the Quran that says Jesus was killed read it! Quran 4:157 and for their saying, “We have certainly killed the MasīH ‘Īsā the son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah”, while in fact they did neither kill him, nor crucify him, but they were deluded by resemblance.Those who disputed in this matter are certainly in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, but they follow whims. It is absolutely certain that they did not kill him,

Here is a correction to what you said: Surat Al Nisa Verse 157: And (for) their saying, "Indeed we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the Son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but (another) was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Read the arabic verse.

@Belikewaterb

21 күн бұрын

This is a mistranslation the actual correct translation says "it only appeared to be so." The addition ("another one was made to resemble him") should be in brackets because it's an addition or innovation added to the Quran by translators who add in their own bias.

Without lies islam dies

@owncraticpath

Ай бұрын

How can being in surrender to God die? An action doesn't die. What dies is Trinitarianism, Sunnism, Shiism, Judaism, and the sects people made up, which are not based on revelation but on human desires. God did reveale the Qur'an, deal with it. Jesus died, like John the Baptist, and they will be resurrected, or were so, both. Precisely. وَسَلَـٰمٌ عَلَيْهِ يَوْمَ وُلِدَ وَيَوْمَ يَمُوتُ وَيَوْمَ يُبْعَثُ حَيًّا And peace be upon him the day he was born, and the day he dies, and the day he is raised up alive! (19:15) (This talking about John the Baptist, and a similar verse where Jesus says it) This is interesting because the gospels also mention John the Baptist being resurrected, or a rumor of that happening. Personally, i don't care. You are the ones giving it relevance, i think Paul was a wolf in sheep's clothing, so his cross theology is wrong in any case. Also, nowhere does the verse say when he died, it is quite possible that the cross did not kill him, and he died later, many Christians said this in the first century, Pontius also said Jesus died too quickly... that is proof that something happened there, the author wouldn't have mentioned that detail otherwise.... It is possible that he entered a comma, was not crucified, and three days later he awakened, and then or later God took him in death. God knows the details. What is true tho, is that "they did not kill him nor crucify him", this is factual. Whether this refers to the Talmud claim and not to the gospels, this is facts.

@WonderWoman000

Ай бұрын

@@owncraticpath you are a fool!!

@pigmeatishambacon

Ай бұрын

@@owncraticpath WHEN ALLAH BLEW HIS RUUH INTO MARYAMS VEEJAY,WAS IT A DIVINE SPIRIT OR A HUMAN SPIRIT??

@owncraticpath

Ай бұрын

@@pigmeatishambacon You don't even understand what divine means to begin with. All your greek definitions have nothing to do neither with the Gospel nor the Quran. God breathed of his ruh on us also!!!! And on Adam... So think what you want about this. The trinity is still manmade, and the number three of it, totally arbitrary. I respect hindus because at least they are more coherent, some of them... And i believe they are closer to the truth than trinitarians.

@alibrahym

Ай бұрын

@@pigmeatishambacon DO you even know what its meant to be

Satan also denies the salvation

Is your ignorance that prevent you from understanding that some words in Arabic language have a lot of meanings and the context will give you which meaning should be taken. For example in the Quran the same word you are talking about Allah used it in ****وانما توفون أ جوركم يوم القيامة**** Or**ثم توفى كل نفس ما كسبت ** In this two verses the word tawaffa means( to pay) Which doesn't mean dead completely . And they're many verses in the Quran which used the same word but it cannot take the meaning of dead. You are making a claim that the Quran accept the dead of Jesus while if you have little integrity you will see in the Quran Allah is saying unambiguously that (وماقتلوه وما صلبوه) They did not kill him and they did not crucify him. If you want to believe your god is killed by some random Jews go and believe it. But don't use the Quran please and please. And stop the translation of Quran which you said you are doing because you are not well equipt

@karimbouriah1895

29 күн бұрын

Absolutely correct

@joen2075

27 күн бұрын

Murad is correct in his translation . Yours is from SIN . Standard Narrative Hoax .

@karimbouriah1895

27 күн бұрын

@@joen2075 No it is incorrect wrong in his interpretation of the Arabic language, the coran clearly said , they did not killed him or crucified ,God saved him and he resurrected ted him on that day whether u believe it or not .

@BukarKalli

25 күн бұрын

​@@joen2075this is the problem you people have you just buy anything from anyone who claim's he is native Arabic speaker if the person is against Islam.

@BukarKalli

25 күн бұрын

​@@joen2075this is the problem you people have. You buy anything from anyone who claim's he knows Islam asfer as he is criticizing Islam

Stupid people don't understand that the very first translation of the Quran was invented between 8th and 9th centuries about 4 generations after the death of Prophet (pbuh), in which Quranic language was taken different to the standard Arabic to define the Quran in their own meanings.

Brother you are maybe not good in arabic and sura an-nisa 157 ayat says that Jesus was not killed or crucified

I believe Jesus died, and I am muslim but not in the cross cause the guy in the video didn't tell what is said before this verse..

According to the Quran, Isa died and resurrected: "Peace be on me on the day I was born and on the day of my death and on the day I shall be raised to life.’" Q 19:33

@owncraticpath

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Like John the Baptist? يَـٰيَحْيَىٰ خُذِ ٱلْكِتَـٰبَ بِقُوَّةٍ وَءَاتَيْنَـٰهُ ٱلْحُكْمَ صَبِيًّا “O John: hold thou fast the Writ!” And We gave him judgment when a child, (19:12) وَحَنَانًا مِّن لَّدُنَّا وَزَكَوٰةً وَكَانَ تَقِيًّا And tenderness from Us, and purity; and he was in prudent fear, (19:13) وَبَرًّۢا بِوَٰلِدَيْهِ وَلَمْ يَكُن جَبَّارًا عَصِيًّا And dutiful to his parents; and he was not arrogant or defiant. (19:14) وَسَلَـٰمٌ عَلَيْهِ يَوْمَ وُلِدَ وَيَوْمَ يَمُوتُ وَيَوْمَ يُبْعَثُ حَيًّا And peace be upon him the day he was born, and the day he dies, and the day he is raised up alive! (19:15)

@valkyrie3493

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​@@owncraticpath The form of the verb "to die" used in that passage is يَمُوتُ, which is a future or present continuous form, "he dies" or, "he will die". Given that the verse is revealed to Muhammed 600 years after John, you will have to explain to us why John hasn't yet died at the time of Muhammed. 😂 😂 😂 The verb also occurs in the same tense and context in the following passages: 87:13 25:58 20:74 16:38 On the contrary, the past form of the verb "died" مَاتُوا۟ occurs once in 98:4.

@owncraticpath

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@@valkyrie3493 Are you a sunni or a christian? Tbh i have no clue. There are verses which quote past events where they speak in present or future... that's how quotes work. For instance Satan promised, in the past, that he will, in the future, misguide the people, except a minority of believers who are secured in God and faithful... So i don't get your point, but thanks for sharing i guess.

@valkyrie3493

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​@@owncraticpath While we're still on the topic of John, Aulloh makes a statement about the name in 19:7, that nobody has ever borne the name before John the baptist. A search through the Hebrew Bible proves this to be false. Several people were named Johanan in the Hebrew Bible. 2 Kings 25:23 1 Chronicles 3:15 1 Chronicles 3:24 1 Chronicles 6:9 1 Chronicles 12:4 Aulloh did not seem to be aware of this. 😂 😂 😂

@valkyrie3493

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​​@@owncraticpath When we read from the beginning of the chapter, we see that the events are being narrated in past tense. Until we get to verse 14, which is *very plainly* narrating an event which hasn't occured yet at the time of the Revelation. It's all there in plain Arabic.

‼️‼️☪️Let me suppose that you have good intentions and that you do not know that there are meanings to the word, even though you appear to be from an Arab country "Yotawaffa" means (die or sleep or like take a soul ) And I will prove that to you also from the Quran الله يتوفى الأنفس حين موتها والتي لم تمت في منامها فيمسك التي قضى عليها الموت ويرسل الأخرى إلى أجل مسمى إن في ذلك لآيات لقوم يتفكرون . Quran 39:42 There is yatawaffa in the people who sleep ˹It is˺ Allah ˹Who˺ calls back the souls ˹of people˺ upon their death as well as ˹the souls˺ of the living during their *sleep*. Then He keeps those for whom He has ordained death, and releases the others until ˹their˺ appointed time. Surely in this are signs for people who reflect. And don't you know this verse? and said, ‘We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God.’ (They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, though it was made to appear like that to them; those that disagreed about him are full of doubt, with no knowledge to follow, only supposition: they certainly did not kill him- Quran 4:157

In Quran ,Judas Iscariot 100 % was crucified on the cross after he acted like a leader among Jesus’’s followers that night and was arrested by soldiers..Jesus was caught up to heaven before soldiers arrived the house he stayed with some followers!

Bro this is completely taken out of context. Like this is how far u go to deceiving people?

In the Quran, the death has 3 forms 1. In sleep, the soul is raised to Allah, while the body is still alive, and Allah sends back the soul to the body. Visually, whether the person is sleeping or dead, one can not differentiate, which is alive. 2. The second form in which the soul is raised and it is never returned back to the body. This means the end of life in this world. 3. The third form of death, means, departure of both soul and body, and both are raised to Allah. So it is not the Quran, which is contradictory. It is the human who doesn't have such intellect to understand the true meaning and depth of the language.

@oneandtruth

15 күн бұрын

​@Zidane-is-the-GOAT05 the person in the video, is misguiding the people by claiming that Quran contradicts within itself. While he failed to mention that the word death in the Quran has three different forms.

ealaaah dodolan wolak waliking dobosan toong tong 😂😂😂

Dear, 'tawaffa' can be translated to mean that God takes someone completely, as in through death God takes people to Himself. However, Jesus Christ was not destined to die, so God took him completely by raising him up to heaven. And he is not dead. In the end times, Imam Muhammad Al-Mahdi, the twelfth descendant of Prophet Muhammad"who is absent now", will appear and rule the world. Jesus will descend from heaven and pray behind him, and when the Christians see this, they will become Muslims.

@Maryam-gl6si

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Imam al-Mahdi, also known as Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-Askari, was born on the 15th of Sha'ban in the year 255 AH, which corresponds to the 31st of July in the year 869 AD.

@Maryam-gl6si

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The occultation of Imam Mahdi (A.J.) is a significant and complex topic in Twelver Shia thought. According to Shia beliefs, Imam Mahdi is the twelfth Imam in the line of infallible Imams who succeeded the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). There are two main occultations of Imam Mahdi: 1. **The Minor Occultation (873-941 AD):** It is believed to have begun after the death of his father, Imam Hasan al-Askari, when Imam Mahdi was still a child. During this period, he communicated with his followers through four special deputies. The Minor Occultation ended with the death of the last deputy. 2. **The Major Occultation (since 941 AD until now):** At the end of the Minor Occultation, Imam Mahdi began the Major Occultation, which continues to this day, during which the Imam does not directly communicate with his followers. It is believed that this occultation will continue until he is commanded to reappear to establish justice and eliminate oppression and corruption in the world. The possible and believed reasons for the occultation of Imam Mahdi include: - **Protection of the Imam:** To safeguard him from assassination and persecution, as the ruling authorities at that time sought to eliminate him due to the threat he posed to their power. - **Testing the Believers:** The occultation period serves as a test of faith and piety for the followers, who must adhere to the doctrine and act according to the laws without the visible presence of the Imam among them. - **Creating the Right Conditions:** It is believed that the appearance of Imam Mahdi will occur when the conditions on earth are suitable for his leadership and the establishment of a just rule. These reasons reflect some of the beliefs and doctrines of Twelver Shia regarding the occultation of Imam Mahdi and its purpose.

@Maryam-gl6si

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Christians will become Muslims because they will see their prophet Jesus praying behind Imam Mahdi, following him.

@Maryam-gl6si

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Christians will become Muslims because they will see their prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) praying behind Imam Mahdi, following him.

@Backstabber03

29 күн бұрын

​@@Maryam-gl6si imam Mahdi fake stories created, Qur'an never mention imam Mahdi, and mhmd means "praised one" was a title and not name of person used by Jews for their coming prophet and Christians for Jesus, there is no history of Mecca in 7 century in present day Saudi

And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. This guy is a liar....

@litimagaji474

28 күн бұрын

Just by mentioning the name Messiah rendered the verse useless because no jew will ever be proud of killing the Messiah this is a barefaced lie from the pit of hell

@Spark290

28 күн бұрын

@litimagaji474 🤣🤣🤣🤣 your funny. The Jews hated Jesus... the quran is sufficient for me...

@Spark290

28 күн бұрын

@@litimagaji474 In the gospel, it is this claim which leads to some of the Jews attempting to stone him, and their eventual handing Jesus over to Pilate for crucifixion on charges of blasphemy: "We are not stoning You for any good work," said the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God

@litimagaji474

28 күн бұрын

@@Spark290 confused dude they refused to recognize him as their Messiah because he didn't conform to their idea of a Messiah that's how they got it wrong and tried to kill or stone whenever he says something they don't want to hear

@Spark290

28 күн бұрын

@litimagaji474 Psalm 118: 5, 17-18 “I called upon the Lord in distress: the Lord answered me, and set me in a large place.” “I will not die, but live, and I will proclaim what the Lord has done.” “The Lord severely punished me, but he did not hand me over to death.” “I will give you thanks, for you answered me,and have become my deliverer.” “The stone which the builders discarded has become the cornerstone.” [This is a Messianic psalm which makes it explicit in verse 18 that he will not be handed over to die]

no he didnt and this jesus is the future im the past my husband is the present we are judgement day

You just shown that you don't understand tafsir

@ivanz6368

25 күн бұрын

Not a big deal! Even Allah doesn't understand tafsir - because it's tough sir 😂😂😂

@ahmedyassinenajjar1516

25 күн бұрын

@@ivanz6368 I see you're an indian, I'll just ignore you

@ivanz6368

25 күн бұрын

@@ahmedyassinenajjar1516 hey bozo!! you just insulted 1.5 billion people

@ahmedyassinenajjar1516

25 күн бұрын

@@ivanz6368 you insulted 2 Billion

سلام دوستان مسیحی این کلمه متوفیک برای مردن بکار رفته اما چون این قضیه درماعده ایه 157مرگش وصلیب شدن رد شده ومی فرماید یقینانگشتند دیگه نمی شه گفت صلیب شده ومرده یادتون باشه این متوفیک منظورش خواب عیسی است وقتی که عیسی شب خوابیده بود روح ازتنش جداشده بوده خود قران توفی را برای خواب هم بکار برده اگه تنها توفی برای مرگ بکار می رفت حق داشتید ولی در سوره انعام ایه 60 و زمر ایه 42یتوفی راواضح به خواب بکار برده واین کلمات اصلا به بقیه ایات قران دراختلاف نیست منظورش خواب عیسی است وروزی که قرار بوده صلیب بشه صبح رود بیدارشده روحش برگشته باجسم وروح بالا رفته انجیل تحریف کردندمی خواهید قران هم تحریف کنید این تناقظ نیست این ها مباحث مختلف قرانه قبول دارید که توفی جداشدن روح از بدن است خوب موقع خواب هم روح از بدن جدامیشه

The SIN or Sin the bull and moon god of Ur that flows into Allah, Mo's idol.

Another day another fitnah

God doesnt died, event for 1 milisecond

Praise olla and praise razu lala 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Wrong! Quran clearly stated he was not crucified nor killed on the cross. You are trying to mislead the Muslims by wearing Arabic dress but you failed miserably.

@slemonman

27 күн бұрын

Whats this then? Quran 19:33 Peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I will be raised back to life!”

@Glajdar

27 күн бұрын

@@slemonman - it says the day i die ( IN FUTURE), NOT the day i died! ALLAHUAKBAR!

@slemonman

27 күн бұрын

@@Glajdar ahh yes Jesus will come back and die? and be ressurrected again? Muslim logic 101 , 0 critical thinking skills.

@slemonman

23 күн бұрын

@@Glajdar i blocked your answer? i dont own this channel buddy , go take your schizo pills coz youre being paranoid rn.

The shameless desperate attempt to justify Christianity through misinterpretations of the holy Quran is not a new tactic in the book.

Deductions and assumptions while being high on pigeon droopings 😂 ﴿ ترجمة: لقد كفر الذين قالوا إن الله ثالث ثلاثة وما من إله إلا ﴾ Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no ilah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilah (God -Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall the disbelievers among them. Zip ya lip

Before He ascended in to Heaven/Jennah; Jesus left an aspect of Himself with the disciples that never went to the cross. This is called the Eucharist. It is the Ahmed aspect of Himself. Jesus Christ is the real Muhammadim (MHMD) who sits on the seat of Moses/Musa. Islam is a Monophysite Christian sect, Jesus is The Word of God (Kalimatullah), The Angel of The Lord (Rasool-Allah) and The Beloved (Habibullah). He was Begotten not of the Father but of the essence of The Holy Spirit/Ruh Al Qudus.

@helman41

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Complete nonsense, and I'm being charitable.

@abj136

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@@helman41 It may be nonsense but I suspect this is correctly describing the Monophysite heresy.

@Witchfinder48

29 күн бұрын

Christ was not crucified Psalm 41:2 KJV

@silverltc2729

29 күн бұрын

@@Witchfinder48 The Eucharist was not hurt, but shared with the disciples before hand.

Just like JW

Come on your interpretation has too many flaws man first of all it's god who said inni اني which means that I. so by the mutawaffik translation ( I died) will only be applicable on the person who is the person mentioned and donot say inni cuz mutawaffik will mean you are dead but inni is here it will mean I am dead but if warafi'uk goes on it will be I am your death and I raise you up But If you add up اذ then inside the sentence then. You will be tangled up اذ اني متوفيك ورافعك For I will cause you to die and raise you up Idh mean I and if you add idh in this sentence with warafi'uk then you are going to drain bro cuz it will be for I cause. now a first person is talking then the mutawaffik will be automatically gone to a third person so this is the simple Grammer you fake ex Muslim Arab

May God bless you for your work sir. This is also the position of us Quranist Muslims. 4:157-158 confirms the crucifiction, ressurection and ascension of Jesus the son of Mary and that this was God’s plan all the time. What the Quran is not confirming is the passion narrative, i.e the suffering and humiliatiion of Jesus. In the Quran GOD seems to cause a bodily death to Jesus shortly prior to the physical crucifiction as 3:55 indicated, killing his son so that his enemies will not torture him. GOD caused Jesus to die in such a way so that his enemies do not notice that Jesus is physically dead just like GOD did with Solomon: ”When the appointed time for his death came, they had no clue that he had died. It was not until one of the animals tried to eat his staff, and he fell down, that the jinns realized that he was dead. They thus realized that if they really knew the unseen, they would have stopped working so hard as soon as he died.”34:14 Jesus, the son of Mary was created like Adam was created and he died like Solomon died.

@silverltc2729

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Before He ascended in to Heaven/Jennah; Jesus left an aspect of Himself with the disciples that never went to the cross. This is called the Eucharist. It is the Ahmed aspect of Himself. Jesus Christ is the real Muhammadim (MHMD) who sits on the seat of Moses/Musa. Islam is a Monophysite Christian sect, Jesus is The Word of God (Kalimatullah), The Angel of The Lord (Rasool-Allah) and The Beloved (Habibullah). He was Begotten not of the Father but of the essence of The Holy Spirit/Ruh Al Qudus.

@economician

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@silverltc2729 What reference in the Quran do you have to the eucharist? Muhammad is highly likely referencing Jesus before his death and ressurection since Muhammad can die or be killed, see 3:144. Ahmad is highly likely referencing Jesus post ressurection, when Jesus gets a name more praised than that of Angels( ahmad means MORE praised). See hebrews 1 and Quran 5:116) Yes monophysitism maybe. Monophysitism in the sense that Jesus only has a human nature. See 5:17) Jesus is Kalimatuhu/ HIS WORD/ God’s Word to Mary, God’s promise to Mary that she would give birth to the Messiah. Jesus is God’s Word to Mary fullfilled through the virgin birth. See 4:171. Jesus is not the Angel of the Lord/Ruhuul Quds but Jesus incarnates the powers of Ruhuul Quds / Angel of the Lord which allows him to wield the natural laws to his will. See 5:110.

@majeromajero7330

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Nah, Adam was shaped from clay blown a human spirit. Jesus was not shaped. It came out directly from God.

@economician

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@majeromajero7330 GOD blew HIS Spirit into Adam just as GOD blew HIS Spirit into Mary resulting in the Virgin Birth. ”He shaped him and blew into him from HIS SPIRIT. And He gave you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brains; rarely are you thankful.”32:9 ”As for the one who maintained her virginity, we blew into her from OUR SPIRIT, and thus, we made her and her son a portent for the whole world.”21:91

It’s funny that we can debunk the entire video without even watching it with just 1 verse 😂😂😂

why ruining everything you said with the final sentence? treating the claim that Jesus was crucified and the claim that he rose from the dead as both undoubtedly true while only the first is so, makes you no different than those Islamic scholars you so passionately despise...

The passage you have quoted says nothing about Jesus dying on the cross.

Sheikh Liars, deal with it! 😂

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Hhahaha 😂 you new lie update

Jesus was not crucified Psalm 41:2 KJV

@yarn7344

29 күн бұрын

1¶To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David. Blessed is he who considers the poor; The LORD will deliver him in time of trouble. 2The LORD will preserve him and keep him alive, And he will be blessed on the earth; You will not deliver him to the will of his enemies. 3The LORD will strengthen him on his bed of illness; You will sustain him on his sickbed. 4I said, “LORD, be merciful to me; Heal my soul, for I have sinned against You.” Has jesus sinned or not? Read verse 4

@Witchfinder48

29 күн бұрын

@@yarn7344 speaking on our behalf I have sinned

@Witchfinder48

29 күн бұрын

@@yarn7344 Read verse 9

@yarn7344

29 күн бұрын

@@Witchfinder48 tell me has Jesus sinned?

@yarn7344

29 күн бұрын

@@Witchfinder48 4I said, “LORD, be merciful to me; Heal my soul, for I have sinned against You.” 5My enemies speak evil of me: “When will he die, and his name perish?” 6And if he comes to see me, he speaks lies; His heart gathers iniquity to itself; When he goes out, he tells it. 7All who hate me whisper together against me; Against me they devise my hurt. 8“An evil disease,” they say, “clings to him. And now that he lies down, he will rise up no more.” 9Even my own familiar friend in whom I trusted, Who ate my bread, Has lifted up his heel against me.

I saw some Christians claim Jesus being alive and not having died is proof he's the eternally living... Well, guess they lost it now, God cannot die. Jesus died, and i agree, this shows Jesus did die. Nowhere does it say on the cross, nowhere does it say he was resurrected already. That's... your imagination.

@abj136

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Christians don’t say he didn’t die. That he died is the most emphatic statement in the gospels, and second most is that he returned to life on the third day.

@owncraticpath

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@@abj136 I have no issue with it. The only issue is when you say he is God. Which is literally not true. God is one means he is one opposite to three or millions... God is one being, one will, one person if you will. God is indivisible, you cannot claim he is three persons. Or that he is flesh or took flesh. Practically all of this comes from John, the most unreliable, late gospel compared to the other three... That alone is extremely sus to me. God knows best tho. Perhaps John is fine and what isn't fine is your translations and interpretations of it, i definitely see that also since some of John is extremely monotheistic and show Jesus saying clearly only the Father is the only true God... The Father being a metaphore for Lord. Aka, the Lord is the only true God, not his servant Jesus nor anyone else.

@pigmeatishambacon

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@@abj136 US XTIANS SAY"THE FLESH DIED" NOT GOD, JESUS WAS FLESH =HUMAN ON EARTH

@pigmeatishambacon

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@@owncraticpath IF GOD CANT 3, THEN HES NOT GOD,IF GOD CANT DIE AND RAISE HIMSELF,HES NOT GOD,GOD IS ALL MIGHTY,NOT LIMITED LIKE ALLAH

@owncraticpath

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@@pigmeatishambacon If God can't stop being God he is not God? You don't understand God. If God can't substract the legs from the sun is he not God? Wait, the sun doesn have legs? Ah, but that's the thing, what scripture says, the Quran at least, and i believe the Bible probably also, is that God is over all THINGS competent... He can do ALL THINGS... All things which are... a thing. God dying contradicts the idea of God. Because God is the living God, he does not taste death, he is the eternal, he can't stop existing. Therefore, you ask asking God to stop being God to be able to be God. No sense. All this to fit a MANMADE creed of nicea... The ARROGANCE of this is extreme... To try to make God fit your human conceptions of him... Which no prophet talked about, and Jesus said the "Father" is the ONLY true God... EXPLICIT... He did not say "I, JESUS, AM THE ONLY TRUE GOD" nor did he say the Father and I, and the holy spirit, together are the Only true God... He clearly said, one of the "three persons of the trinity" he ALONE is the only true God. Anything or anyone else is therefore a FALSE GOD... JESUS IS A FALSE GOD. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A FALSE GOD. Your saints you venerate, false gods, even if you don't admit your worship and devotion to them... if you are catholic...

I am all for changing opinions ect and rejecting the SIN, but I when reading the rest of surah 3 verse 55, your logic doesn't seem to hold up (at least for myself) this is because after it says I will cause thee to die (according to your translation) it starts talking about Isa and those who follow him being placed in a high rank until the day of judgement. This suggests that Allah is talking about them whilst they are alive. You could potentially argue that Allah is talking about them when they are in their graves and this elevation of rank will take place thereafter during judgement; however this purgatory stance you take is further rejected by the next statement in the same verse which says "Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differed" If Allah was talking about them in any other case but when they are alive then this final part of the verse will not make sense as it suggests two deaths of Isa and those who follow him and judgement after he has already raised their ranking. You may argue that the last part of the verse (Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differed) is talking generally to the people who read the Quran and not to Isa, however if we anticipate quotation marks starting from verse 55 and ending at verse 56, it suggests Allah is directly talking to Isa here. This direct communication from Allah to Isa and the anticipation of quotation marks is further proved by verse 57 since then it is talking to the generality of the people who received the Quran rather than reiterating what Allah told Isa. Moreover, I believe the translators rendered tawafaa or the root 'WFY' as "to die" since it has a plethora of meanings, one of those meanings being "to take." Every time they render it "cause to die" I believe they are slightly paraphrasing to show the reader that "to take" really means to cause to die in those certain instances. However since the root has many other meanings it does not always mean that "to take" means cause to die as the root seems to signify the completion, rendering or fulfilment of something in Hans Wehr or Lanes Lexicon. Here are some values for the root WFY listed in the lexicons : ejtaal.net/aa/#hw4=1285,ll=3055,ls=79,la=4884,sg=1244,ha=896,br=1061,pr=170,vi=389,mgf=862,mr=803,mn=1572,aan=732,kz=2980,uqq=437,ulq=1817,uqa=455,uqw=1882,umr=1185,ums=1001,umj=953,bdw=968,amr=702,asb=1092,auh=1765,dhq=616,mht=982,msb=263,tla=100,amj=1051,ens=1,mis=1616

@silverltc2729

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Before He ascended in to Heaven/Jennah; Jesus left an aspect of Himself with the disciples that never went to the cross. This is called the Eucharist. It is the Ahmed aspect of Himself. Jesus Christ is the real Muhammadim (MHMD) who sits on the seat of Moses/Musa. Islam is a Monophysite Christian sect, Jesus is The Word of God (Kalimatullah), The Angel of The Lord (Rasool-Allah) and The Beloved (Habibullah). He was Begotten not of the Father but of the essence of The Holy Spirit/Ruh Al Qudus.

@hbilbeisi1

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@@silverltc2729 I like this perspective as I always have thought that the wise man that Moses encountered (referred to as khidr in the SIN) was of the same spirit as Jesus, hence the fish symbolism. However, could you provide me Quranic verses to backup this perspective? If they stand coherent I’m willing to accept.

@hbilbeisi1

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Or let me rephrase my reply after reading yours again, I understand what you’re saying and I also don’t. Could you possibly expand (using Quranic verses)

@helman41

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@@hbilbeisi1 You understand what he's saying, and you also don"t, because it's actually nonsense.

@hbilbeisi1

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@@helman41 well it’s certainly a very esoteric perspective. I wouldn’t just outright throw his opinion out the window. That’s why I asked for his logic based off of Quranic sources

What a liar

Well, Jesus never existed. Its a fictional character created by Buddhists to spread Buddhism in Syria & Egypt. The word 'Jesus' comes from the word 'Yashas'. Yashas was the first disciple of Buddha according to Buddhism.

@grathii

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No

@trira1171

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​@@grathii Gospels (particularly Mathew) were written by Buddhist evangelists. Christianity is a derivative of Buddhism.

@whatistheevidence370

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The claim that Jesus was a fictional character created by Buddhists to spread Buddhism in Syria and Egypt is highly inaccurate and lacks historical basis. Let's examine the key points: 1. Historicity of Jesus: The existence of Jesus as a historical figure is widely accepted by scholars. Multiple sources, including non-Christian ones, provide evidence for Jesus' existence[1][3]. While there may be debates about specific details of his life, the consensus among historians is that Jesus was a real person who lived in 1st century Judea[1]. 2. Origins of Christianity: Christianity emerged from Jewish traditions in the 1st century CE, not from Buddhism. The historical context and theological foundations of Christianity are firmly rooted in Judaism, not Buddhist teachings[1]. 3. Etymology of "Jesus": The name "Jesus" does not come from "Yashas." It is derived from the Hebrew name "Yeshua" (ישוע), which is based on the Semitic root meaning "to deliver; to rescue"[4]. The Greek form "Iēsous" (Ἰησοῦς) is a transliteration of the Hebrew name, which then became "Jesus" in English[4]. 4. Yashas in Buddhism: Yasa (or Yashas) was indeed a disciple of Buddha, but there is no connection between this figure and Jesus Christ[5]. Yasa lived in the 6th century BCE in northern India, centuries before and geographically distant from the origins of Christianity[5]. 5. Spread of Buddhism: There is no historical evidence suggesting that Buddhists created Jesus to spread their religion in Syria and Egypt. Buddhism and Christianity developed independently in different regions and time periods. In conclusion, the claim is a misinterpretation that conflates unrelated historical and religious elements. Jesus and Yashas were distinct historical figures from different time periods, cultures, and religious traditions. The origins of Christianity and the historicity of Jesus are well-documented subjects of scholarly research, and there is no credible evidence supporting the idea that Jesus was a fictional character created by Buddhists[1][3]. Citations: [1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus [2] impactmap.cam.ac.uk/demonstrating-jesus-as-a-historical-figure-in-the-public-arena/ [3] bigthink.com/thinking/was-jesus-real/ [4] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_%28name%29 [5] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasa

@xaelath7771

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​@@trira1171 Why would Buddhists from India try to spread Buddhism in Syria & Egypt by writing Gospel in Greek about a Jewish Messiah? And why would they ommit from that Gospel anything to do with Buddhism? Why would they include things that directly contradict Buddhisms central teachings?

@villainousssb533

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hhmm is that from the gospel of barnabas