Quiet firing: What you need to know about the latest workplace phenomenon
You have probably heard of the term “quiet quitting,” which is gaining traction among workers who are tired of going above and beyond for little return.
Now, there’s a new workplace phenomenon that’s the flipside of that.
Essentially, “quiet firing” happens when employers demoralize workers enough that they decide to leave on their own. This can happen in various ways, such as not responding to requests for promotions or wage increases, increasing workloads to an unmanageable level, or by snuffing out opportunities for career growth.
Global’s Anne Gaviola explains how quiet firing is impacting workplaces.
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There’s also quiet promotion where someone gets paid significantly more than their coworkers who are told there is no more money for raises.
@nimaakhtarkhavari8766
Жыл бұрын
What's your point? ln a private company you can do whatever you want...
Sure hope this doesn't lead to "quiet violence" because everyone is acting like passive-aggressive children to one another. That would be a real shame and totally unexpected.
@scienceisreal779
Жыл бұрын
@SwampMonster440 no its just capitalism
this happens in unionised places all the time, under the guise of restructuring
@davemcd9077
Жыл бұрын
lol, unions in Canada?=re-languageing.
This happened to me like 2 months ago. I was promised 5% commission on a sales job I acquired. When I brought the company a big ticket that could have easily brought in $100k+ they told me my new rate was 1%. When I told them it wasn’t in my contract I was let go and received nothing. I was told that they were “restructuring”. I am willing to go on record for this
Years ago showed up to work, manager came out and said get out we are replacing you, I was so upset but it was the best thing ever for me as that place went under a year later
@MrWallace484
Жыл бұрын
@Gonzo Mandingo nothing it was false accusations
@MrWallace484
Жыл бұрын
@Gonzo Mandingo replaced for cheaper labour actually so now you know
7 year wage freeze has me wondering if my company has been ahead of the quiet firing curve.
@JohnDoe-gn5bc
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWoodfordreserve that is an option for sure. Unfortunately ageism is a factor (I’m not a young man). I will likely lose a few weeks of vacation as well as a portion of my employer contribution to my pension. But you are correct, there are other employers.
This is not "the latest phenomenon" but is in fact the CAUSE of much of the so-called quiet quitting. I and people I know have worked for many companies over the last few decades who treat employees this way, then act surprised when the employee shows little motivation to strive at work.
It’s strange to me that “doing your job to an adequate degree” is considered “quiet quitting” in the west.
@fbsfgr
Жыл бұрын
The west?
@TheDrudgenator
Жыл бұрын
People finally realized the Work place is not the meaning of your life.
@ares106
Жыл бұрын
@@TheDrudgenator yes but if I was a conspiracy man, i would think the big corporations came up with this concept to accuse anyone who is not giving 110% of quiet quitting them.
@huntsbychainsaw5986
Жыл бұрын
Large portions of the job culture are toxic work places.
@JB-ue7em
Жыл бұрын
@@fbsfgr Do you not know what the west is? Lol
Everything has to be "quiet" because speaking up leads to harassment charges
Call it what it is. As stated its potentially constructive dismissal. This quiet quitting and quiet firing has nothing quiet about it. It's simply folk on TikTok making a lot of noise thinking they have discovered something new, which, as is usually the case, they haven't.
@Liberal_From_Prairies689
Жыл бұрын
It’s quite comical how people on TikTok act like they’ve discovered so called “hacks” and all this crap that most of us have actually been doing for years and that is common sense.
@hairydude4020
Жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for; pretty simple stuff really.....
This is not the "latest trend". This has been the case for a while.
@rollinsomethingbutiforgot
Жыл бұрын
It's like they were just born or something and have never heard about the common things of the world
Why use euphemisms? Quiet firing: Treating employees like cr@p and making them so miserable they are forced to quit for their own sanity. Quiet quitting: Doing a very good job for the hours that you agreed upon, rather than working so many hours you end up working for less than minimum wage.
@hhiippiittyy
Жыл бұрын
@Gonzo Mandingo Depends on the employer.
@ithinkthat
Жыл бұрын
@Gonzo Mandingo I made a comment about using euphemisms to describe ugly behaviour. Your assumption that this is about me is incorrect. I've had a good career. And though you're keen on blaming the employee, most of what I described from what I have witnessed is budget driven.
@nimaakhtarkhavari8766
Жыл бұрын
Victimhood mentality, the new pandemic...
I dealt with this prior and a bit during the pandemic to the point where I couldn’t handle the chronic stress, but I got lucky enough to get out of that department in 2021 and save myself from quitting due to having a bad manager using psychological warfare and passive-aggressive tactics (favouritism, nepotism, unfair shift time changes, etc) he tried almost everything with a smile and an excuse. I can't believe I lasted 3.5 years under that manager. Don't give in whenever you know you're being pushed (smoked) out to the point where you're losing your sanity, try to do so on your terms and in the safest way possible, if you gotta get away from a toxic boss/manager who's trying to quietly make you quit.
Quiet firing has been alive and well for a loooooooong time.
@elizabethmcleod246
Жыл бұрын
You bet! Bullying is rampant and has been for years.
Also known as 'constructive dismissal'.
My boyfriend is being quiet fired right now. He's been at the organization for 15 years and most of his subordinates are making more than him! I've never seen or heard of such a thing. It pains me so much, but his personality doesn't help the situation. While he's extremely hardworking and knowledgeable, he can be quite blunt and by-the-book. The other leaders & supervisors are spineless who slack off and cover for each other. They have the title but don't do the job, which is so common nowadays. I wish he wasn't so invested that he could easily walk away.
@aaronbirook4367
Жыл бұрын
get out while you can, he is being taken advantage of. Just move on to a new mate or embrace struggle love
I work from home and currently know exactly what they mean by this
Quit firing is actually harassment and bullying.
@SnowWhite-hr4ho
Жыл бұрын
Bullying is illegal there should be criminal charges. Then it would stop.
This is a stupid issue. If someone doesn’t want to do extra work it is called just doing your job. It also means you probably won’t get a bonus, extra shifts, overtime pay, or promotions. But if someone was to do more or “go the extra mile” at work it means you probably means the supervisor and boss seeing value in the employee would want to keep them by increase wages, extra work, and promotion. But to expect a promotion when they are competing against all the other workers there for doing the basic level seems foolish. If I went to work standard hours never lifting a finger for extra work I would expect my pay check and nothing else. However if I did extra work, took extra shifts, went the extra mile and someone else got promotion who just did the basic work. I would be looking for a new job that day. There is no point in working at a place who does not reward extra work. Just like it would make no sense to expect extra benefits just for doing basic work. There is nothing wrong with just doing the work you are assigned with the time stated. There is a disconnect if you expect a promotion is automatically given just for showing up though.
@louismeloche3857
Жыл бұрын
The carrot at the end of the stick is going to be, you're lucky to have a job. Keep "brown noseing" and "bag licking" but every once in a while, give your knees a break.
@PaladinSaris
Жыл бұрын
There's a reason they didn't show people working with their hands in the video. This is all bourgeoisie, upper-middle class office "slaves" complaining that they have to do any work at all.
@soyentak5076
Жыл бұрын
JWong my man; also if you do go above and beyond, don't be afraid to ask for extra. Let you bosses know what next step that you want or to work in a different role, and don't be afraid to go above your bosses head if your not getting what you want. Know your worth and keep the lines of communication open in regards to what you want.
Ahhh. There's a name for it! Experienced this blatantly. High five. It's ok tho , know your value. Work hard, eventually some job will notice.
@war1231
Жыл бұрын
@Gonzo Mandingo so you recommend jumping to different companies? This will look really nice on your resume. How about companies changing their structure.
I was quiet fired right around the same time I recognized the poor management.
To summarize: "Quiet firing" = Constructive dismal. My suggestion if you find yourself in this situation: Record and document every interaction until you've gathered sufficient information to prove your allegations. Then contact an employment lawyer, or the Employment Standards Act regulators (Provincial), or The Canada Labour Board (Federal), or your union to sort out proper compensation.
@trifectawinnings7755
Жыл бұрын
I did that, contacted an employment lawyer. I guess I picked the wrong one. He informed them. I was removed from my position as the managing partner's assistance in a law firm. I was given nothing to do. I would stay online after hours and check his email and mine (I was authorized) and try to take care the work. He'd tell me it wasn't necessary and then have someone else take care of it and only involve me if it wasn't done correctly.
@huntsbychainsaw5986
Жыл бұрын
@@trifectawinnings7755. You should definitely have recourse then. I don't know what the laws are like where you are but if a layer goes behind your back like that and you can prove it they'd loose their license here.
@mfoco1
Жыл бұрын
It's constructive dismissal, but what you can do depends on where you are. In most US States, the vast majority of such employees have no recourse at all. There are no repercussions for the bad boss or incompetent HR, so it's really not good for the employer either.
@huntsbychainsaw5986
Жыл бұрын
@@mfoco1. Yep, good old USA. The #1 most developed third world country on earth. The legal system there is archaic at its best, and draconian at its worst.
This one is nothing new. Employers have been doing it forever!
@hhiippiittyy
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. It's just a childish "no u" response to quiet quitting from the same people who want you to devote yourself to the job as much as they do but for 1/10th the wage.
I am going through this now and I can tell you that it affects my whole life. Panic and anxiety attacks at work and at home. No sleep the nights before work, constant migraines and neck pain, emotional distress, isolation, and complete exile from everyone else. Even bosses not responding to request for help, giving the wrong info, and making me wait 30-40 minutes for responses that used to take 2-5. My boss won’t even speak to me. This has been going on for years. But really amped up when I made a complaint to hr a week ago and a request for a reasonable accommodation to work from home 4 days a week instead of 2. I don’t know what to do or how much longer I can take it.
@simp2234
10 ай бұрын
😢same I have going through this
@Itzyhani
10 ай бұрын
@@simp2234 today they ignored a most of my requests at work. Then posted pictures of ppl like the black guy from forest gump who had a underbite to pick at me. Literally it was an inside joke and about 4 people ppl laughed. It’s the worst feeling to know ppl are picking on you and you can’t say anything.
They used to call this "getting the push"
Sorry, but that has been going on for generations.
there are provisions made in labor code about vexing behavior. edit : sometimes its not the employer per se but just someone in the chain of command. sometimes they push a very valuable asset out of stupidity and end up being the ones losing their job. play your card well.
@huntsbychainsaw5986
Жыл бұрын
-Employment Standards Act (Ontario provincial regulator) Canada Labour Board (Federal regulator) Or contact your union rep (Yes this happens in a union environment, it's just never made public because unions usually deal with this "in house". KNOW YOUR RIGHTS IN THE WORK FORCE.
Being a business owner and changing toxic work culture seems the way to go for some.
The media doesn’t worry about this they haven’t done there job in decades.
This isn't a new practice. It's been going on for a long time. My second job ten years ago did this all of the time. My boss who was the attack dog got employee of the month the day I left, only to get fired soon after. If no one is there, no one can tell...
So business as usual then? Quiet firing happened before quiet quitting. I mean that's why quiet quitting exist.
Quiet firing is an old practice. As a manager, I’ve done this in the past. It’s not new. When your being treated like crap at work, your manager is trying to get rid of you.
Quiet quitting and quiet firing, meet quiet idiocy. I'm watching IQs deteriorate in real time.
😮Whatever will these corporate come up with.
Yea we are over worked and underpaid. Guess the government should lower the taxes and make life more affordable
COVID and Pandemic really did a number on the workplace. My previous employment the whole management staff was let go. I was a manager as well but I was spared but eventually a year later the new management quiet fired me because I spoke up about things at the workplace. No leader likes an employee that speaks their mind no matter how good of an employee you are. They like people they can control and wouldn't question them. Living in Florida this new trend quiet firing and quiet quiting in the workplace makes it hard for everyone managers and employees especially Florida being a right to work state.
the atmosphere of tiktok has tapped into the workforce for professionals to start acting like passive-aggressive kids. what has humanity come to? LOL
You are replaceable……
The stock videos really added to the quality of the video.
@FortitudineVincimus
Жыл бұрын
What would you rather have been shown... stock video of the Serengeti?
@mr.c.2888
Жыл бұрын
@@FortitudineVincimus anything from their decades of B-roll, or the person speaking. With covid I forogt what an office was.
@davidbeddoe6670
Жыл бұрын
@@FortitudineVincimus Actually? Yeah. That would be very relaxing.
GFL does the same thing
They've been doing that s*** for years what's so surprising it has a name now
My Loyalty, above, and beyond work ethic is worn out from abuse. You get the job done what's paid for, anything else costs extra. There are No free Lunches, tighten your boot straps, stealing time is a quitable offense.
@groovyengineer
Жыл бұрын
@Gonzo Mandingo Where is this mythical place of praise ?
@groovyengineer
Жыл бұрын
@Gonzo Mandingoyou're such great management material. I been the manager getting pressure from above, "it's not me its you". Lol you're doing a fine job.
Hmmmm Ford said we have a serious shortage of workers, and it’s getting worse. Why would employers fire ppl?
I swear people act like working is that serious like get in and get out that simple
So they wan't to play that kind of game. Let's play the no children game, quiet quitting game. Run.exe
Yep. Especially if you are over 50!
You are just a number in the grand scheme of things
There are 2 job openings for every 1 unemployed person in America today. Businesses need to get more competitive and less complacent. Plain and simple.
It's called constructive dismissal. Is 1984 your play-book or what?
The supervisor won't recertification of ticket causing loss of employment, wages, and quitting.
Quiet firing is a made up buzz word for actions that have been happening for a long time, company management setting the employee for failure in bullying and harassment by the use of false documentation against the employee.. It's just being done more in regards to TRYING to counter current trends. Also to note, the repeated documentation about the false claims that the company makes against the employee, can be used for legal backing IF needed to protect the companies (false) firing of the employee. Some states in the U.S.A. have laws about the firing of employees that can protect the employee. Also bullying and harassment that is also the case. Also know, that some states are "right to work" states, that companies don't need ANY sort of hard documented reasons, so make sure you research the state laws where you live. Quiet Quitting is the result of companies taking advantage of and asking too much of their employees and giving them very little in return, for the extra efforts that they have done. The companies burn out their employees, and it is actually the companies fault.. Not really a "Gen Z" issue at all. If you keep getting pulled into office meetings for things that are NOT your fault, know that you are being targeted and it may be a great time to either save up a lot of money to live off of and for legal representation OR find yourself another job and just move forward. Unfortunately, there are always very wicked people out there that work for companies that are 100% cruel to their employees.. That's the real world we live in.
Well lets get ready for an even worse labor shortage.
This has been going on for years its just now they put a name to it. Wanna promotion act dumb and lazy and watch the promotions come. Easy way to counter stop showing loyalty to a job and never stop looking for something better.
Boomers have been doing this for years lol nothing new about it
Sounds fair to me.
This is nothing new. It’s just got a new name. But for the under 30 crowd it is cause they don’t have the life experience to know.
It's absurd to suggest talking to HR. If an environmental enables such conduct, HR is part of the problem. What's needed in the US is reform of unemployment law.
For those interested, I made a YT video about quiet quitting and I share my personal thoughts on this topic :)
Lol 😂 don’t believe that got fired for doing three peoples job, they looked on the computer and said I wasn’t doing anything for five hours! I told them I was possibly writing everything done on sheets they didn’t want to acknowledge them or even go and find them in the other warehouse inside boxes on the top shelf I said we can all go over there and look for them I have nothing to hide , nope the just walked me out the door! 7 yrs wasted on a company that didn’t want to care about their seniors! That have been there while the door was swinging people in left and right!
@greenleaves8980
Жыл бұрын
Wow, that heartbreaking that they would not see your loyal and appreciative and saw that as an asset. I hope that you heal from that betray. They’ll see one day they’ve made a big mistake.👎🏿👎🏿
Whatever they promise you get it in writing, with a witness on company letterhead and have it notarized!
Most employers just make something up, fire a pay later.
'I seen one guy (white male (big suprise)) 'Quiet Laughing' at someone suffering from a quiet firing attack. Then when I called him on it. He just stared at me. There is no doubt in my mind he was doing 'quiet violence' in his mind. Plus he racist without a doubt (his wife is Black but that means nothing). I think I'll have him canceled definitely going to report him. Could barely go into work after that experience.' - ❄
If you people are concerned about labour abuse, time to start looking at the culinary and restaurant world
i was told there arent any full time jobs. i have been living a worrking lie for 22 years!!
Quiet quitting = quiet firing. Pretty logical!
@aaronbirook4367
Жыл бұрын
Nope, entire departments will be let go during times of economic downturns. No-one is safe and assuming you are safe is only going to lead to depression and suicide when you find out you are not.
Nothing new here..........just new term for it I guess
This is good. Nobody wants a quitter, or anyone with intentions of working for a "C" grade. Just typical of today's lazy attitude.
Let’s go Brandon
Oh no Ronald McDonald! What have they done to you!
I can't take some child wearing putting on make and trying to describe something serious
Give the quitters a quiet kick in the butt.
seems to me we REALY NEED whistleblower LAWS......of some worth?...(the present ones are INADEQUATE=tru dat, la.)
workin is for poor people.
Sorry I'm all for this. I have a co-worker who is doing the bare minimum. So annoying, our work is pooled so she's basically creating a massive backlog of work that me and everything else has to manage. I'm all for loud firing.
@hhiippiittyy
Жыл бұрын
Your bosses are using you to make up for their lack of management skills and inability to adequately assign work. Your coworker sucks, surely, but your bosses are no better. Blaming her alone is playing the game on their terms. Playing into their hands. Demand a raise.
@kingstarscream3807
Жыл бұрын
If you want her to do more then you need to pay her more. This isn't rocket science, kid. Smart people with dignity don't work for free.
Quiet quitters are basically safety hazards for the rest of us...
news flash: keep doing the bare minimum & you'll never be successful
@ericzommer5581
Жыл бұрын
News flash: Risk vs Reward .. its a thing, why risk mental health and financial insecurity for a business that doesn't care about your well-being? Yes. You can be successful at something but what good is it when you are broken by the end of the process? Work to what you are paid for.. nothing more. No business deserves your time and energy that way.
@donm2067
Жыл бұрын
I worked hard at all my companies, always in the top ranked employees. All you get is more work load for a pittance more, just take the skills and move on, I make way more now.
Anyone taking the approach of quiet quitting, is only putting a nail in the coffin of their career. There is a balance, but this is a childish and short-term way of thinking, that will lead to no success.
i would never hire any of these clowns.. have fun quiet quitting lol