Quake Demo: Thresh vs MikeJ oldschool Duel 1997

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Here is a nice practice match between Quake Legend Dennis "Thresh" Fong and MakeJ.
Game: Quake
Map: DM6 "The Dark Zone"
Demo date: 25.04.1997
The demo was downloaded from here:
(Link removed because it was no longer working - the filename was "thresh1.zip")
Here is a description of this demo from the site:
"The demo was recorded at 4 a.m. in April 1997. Thresh declined to play MikeJ on about 6 servers because Mikej's ping was slightly lower on each one and also refused to let any spectators watch. MikeJ finally gave up and told Thresh to pick any server he wanted. Thresh (as always) plays a smart match against a pretty good player (who has since gotten much better) to win the match. The final score isn't very indicative of how well the game was played by both players."
1. The client used is called FTE and it was downloaded from here:
(Warning it could trigger your antivirus)
triptohell.info/moodles/autoup...
(I did not get any viruses and everything worked after I downloaded
fteglqw.exe or fteglqw64.exe)
2. The effects used are from this forum post:
www.quakeworld.nu/forum/topic/...
3. The HQ Textures and HUD elements are downloaded from here:
qrp.quakeone.com/downloads/
(just put the .pk3's in "Quake/id1"
4. The teleporter effect can be activated with this command in the console "r_telestyle 3"
The demo is super old, but I like seeing ThresH play and I wanted to experiment with a new client for oldschool demos.
Music used: Escape from the Temple by Per Kiilstofte
machinimasound.com/music/esca...
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International
(creativecommons.org/licenses/b...)
Have fun!

Пікірлер: 128

  • @bonedome
    @bonedome8 жыл бұрын

    I watched this live in the room. It was epic.

  • @JonnyAbs-0

    @JonnyAbs-0

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very cool. Could they see each others name labels like that?

  • @skobar

    @skobar

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JonnyAbs-0 no

  • @rix911

    @rix911

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@skobar really? Who are you?

  • @scambaitspidey3470

    @scambaitspidey3470

    2 жыл бұрын

    well that's a lie "Mikej's ping was slightly lower on each one and also refused to let any spectators watch."

  • @bonedome

    @bonedome

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@scambaitspidey3470 Several people watched it. Myself (EG|Muppet), Zakath, Loki, killboy, and a few others.

  • @Kartoffie
    @Kartoffie3 жыл бұрын

    its wonderful to see how the technique used back in the day were so different than now but the pacing is still fast as ever

  • @AIMarketingFunnels

    @AIMarketingFunnels

    3 жыл бұрын

    Note they didn't have strafe running / circle jumping in the original quake

  • @sven31415

    @sven31415

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AIMarketingFunnels They didn't know about this yet. It was known later.

  • @Wobbothe3rd

    @Wobbothe3rd

    Жыл бұрын

    The graphics didn't look this good back then. Not sure if they were even on openGL acceleration for this match, but even if they were the game looked more basic.

  • @dougfoster445

    @dougfoster445

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Wobbothe3rd nope..good ol 640x480 intergrated direct video....This was obviously replayed as a demo through quake though...I remember Thresh back in the day and actually played him. Back then gaming wasn't competitive like it is now for sure...I played this game for 10 hours a day and I'm positive if I did tournies I would've won...Was number 1 on mplayer and net...I'm 40 now lol

  • @DaRealKing303

    @DaRealKing303

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@Wobbothe3rd yeah, I doubt they were playing in 1080 lol

  • @stayin91degrees
    @stayin91degrees8 жыл бұрын

    woah old school, thanks for posting these!

  • @Frobbl
    @Frobbl10 ай бұрын

    A bit surreal to watch this 25 years later.

  • @realbr1koo
    @realbr1koo5 жыл бұрын

    Good old Quake. My favorite fps from the ninetees. Theres no other game with such a rough atmosphere, the sound effects, the theme, the weapons everything fits perfectly together. And the multiplayer was amazing as hell.

  • @jancabal84

    @jancabal84

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would have said the same thing about Quake3 and Quake3. Just Quake4 and Quake Champs are bit of an odd ones. And I guess I am still flattering Quake Champs, that one is completely off

  • @mourad3795

    @mourad3795

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jancabal84 what about quake wars

  • @Lagos3sgte
    @Lagos3sgte8 жыл бұрын

    Still the best death match game ever made.

  • @valletas

    @valletas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah this isnt doom 2

  • @Khaled-eo9mr

    @Khaled-eo9mr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@valletas you mean UT

  • @berko9647
    @berko96474 жыл бұрын

    it's so old that they don't even bunny hop wow

  • @discoRyne

    @discoRyne

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's a purity to it.

  • @DaRealKing303

    @DaRealKing303

    10 ай бұрын

    Could you imagine going back in time and showing them what up? Lol

  • @piotrlistwan8116
    @piotrlistwan811611 ай бұрын

    Awesome. Reminds me a times when our IT teacher in secondary school allowed us to do Quake tournament 25 years ago. It was fun :)

  • @danfarm
    @danfarm8 жыл бұрын

    This channel is fucking great, man.

  • @yalezzzz
    @yalezzzz7 жыл бұрын

    Jesus christ, I am old af. :(

  • @DelasVC

    @DelasVC

    4 жыл бұрын

    S7R4 Hahahaha

  • @dekasdump7588

    @dekasdump7588

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@s7r49 lmao

  • @Asocial-Canine
    @Asocial-Canine4 жыл бұрын

    Man, back in the days when people spoke in full sentences when saying "glhf"

  • @Wobbothe3rd

    @Wobbothe3rd

    Жыл бұрын

    They had macros and binds back then too lol

  • @Asocial-Canine

    @Asocial-Canine

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Wobbothe3rd fair actually XP Can't imagine setting binds for something small like that personally, but QC not having them prolly made me forget about em

  • @exet

    @exet

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Asocial-Caninewe had binds for a lot of text back then. You could bind any string.

  • @blackidna
    @blackidna3 жыл бұрын

    Watching the new generation of gamers commenting on how primitive these players' techniques are is like watching those barf colored skin tight suits wearing cyclists commenting on pictures of people riding on penny farthings.

  • @mareksicinski3726

    @mareksicinski3726

    2 жыл бұрын

    that is a bit fo misointerpretationa nd misstaement

  • @SvenS2
    @SvenS28 жыл бұрын

    Completely off topic: Love the rocket mod that's used. Those particles and explosions look sexy af.

  • @capatrateka

    @capatrateka

    6 жыл бұрын

    and the fact that you can see through the teleporter :)

  • @Talisman09

    @Talisman09

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes that's so far off topic

  • @r.g.thesecond
    @r.g.thesecond2 ай бұрын

    Man that HD pack is peak 2000s. Ranger looks so yassified

  • @squirrelz6117
    @squirrelz61177 ай бұрын

    surprises me how some of the tactics thresh came up with on this map is still used in high tier duels from all of the new games. his positioning was really good for this being one of the first competitive FPS games. they must have played this so much when it came out. the same kind of positioning is pretty critical to keeping map control, and i can see it with the RA. but then i saw him convert map control once or twice by going up through the top area to RA. since he still had a clean red armor, and had just picked up mega health, he made the smartest decision to push from highground to avoid excess damage, and then just gets control again. i highly doubt many players were this methodical.

  • @deadeye4520
    @deadeye45205 жыл бұрын

    Good ol Quake was the best. Especially CTF, Rocket Arena, and Hypnotic.

  • @grottjockejompe
    @grottjockejompe2 ай бұрын

    nice upload, i remember thres clan vs nine in sweden sthlm

  • @backtoussrsoviet5694
    @backtoussrsoviet5694 Жыл бұрын

    Yo why you’re doing this to me? I played this game as a teenager and now in my late 40’s. Seem like yesterday

  • @VictorLean1472
    @VictorLean14727 жыл бұрын

    Hi guys, may I ask where to install this game for a Mac?

  • @zigg7958

    @zigg7958

    7 жыл бұрын

    nquake.com should work fine

  • @mattscott7871
    @mattscott7871 Жыл бұрын

    The battle around 17:30.....that's Quake.

  • @bsnhbksan
    @bsnhbksan4 жыл бұрын

    Is there anywhere that we can still play this map online? Like, does Quake live on steam have it?

  • @SleepyAdam

    @SleepyAdam

    3 жыл бұрын

    I believe there is a Quake Live port of it on the Steam Workshop in the collection "Quake 1 maps" but I've never been able to get it working. QuakeWorld is also still online and you can play the original using ezQuake. I recommend joining the U.S. QuakeWorld discord to find games.

  • @bsnhbksan

    @bsnhbksan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SleepyAdam Thanks buddy, much appreciated. I used to play this game on LAN with my mates way back in 1996 - and watching this video just brought back so much nostalgia.

  • @bitffald

    @bitffald

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can now play this in quake champions

  • @Wobbothe3rd

    @Wobbothe3rd

    Жыл бұрын

    You can now play this in the Quake remaster, but online Quake NEVER stopped.

  • @zdzichuWentyl
    @zdzichuWentyl4 жыл бұрын

    BEST GAME

  • @SneakShaDa
    @SneakShaDa2 жыл бұрын

    Просто Пушка Игра)

  • @MrCandySkull
    @MrCandySkull6 жыл бұрын

    wonder how they played without darkplaces

  • @CTimmerman
    @CTimmerman5 жыл бұрын

    Great reflection effects at 13:00.

  • @BloGGMania
    @BloGGMania4 жыл бұрын

    Охуительно! А почему нет распрыжки, кто-то знает?

  • @dantealighieri5547

    @dantealighieri5547

    4 жыл бұрын

    Либо ещё не обнаружили этот баг, либо ещё не научились им пользоваться в бою.

  • @erazorCTF
    @erazorCTF3 жыл бұрын

    Strafejumping wasn't a thing back then?

  • @notturok7841

    @notturok7841

    3 жыл бұрын

    Evolution my friend

  • @miguelpereira9859

    @miguelpereira9859

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was just being discovered I think

  • @T02myRu
    @T02myRu4 жыл бұрын

    if they knew about the shaft bug... :D

  • @JonnyAbs-0
    @JonnyAbs-04 жыл бұрын

    Could you always add the name label to a player? Never used this but really gives location away

  • @TheBroz

    @TheBroz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jonn Abshire that is only on the replay

  • @JonnyAbs-0

    @JonnyAbs-0

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBroz they are so good at reading location it's like they can see the label through the walls

  • @JonnyAbs-0

    @JonnyAbs-0

    4 жыл бұрын

    @shane marz wow that's a long name for it

  • @JonnyAbs-0

    @JonnyAbs-0

    4 жыл бұрын

    @shane marz yeah i get it. You said it was called something with a super long name. You were using a snarky and overplayed cliche, so I just interpreted it literally since you were being a dick, and I wasn't going to play along.

  • @Steprc
    @Steprc3 жыл бұрын

    Tant de nuits blanche :)

  • @EMB3D
    @EMB3D4 жыл бұрын

    what engine is this? good game!

  • @decebal01US

    @decebal01US

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its called FTE, and there is a link in the description. But I see that the first link does not work, but the second one still works: www.quakeworld.nu/forum/topic/718/my-fte-particle-effects

  • @EMB3D

    @EMB3D

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@decebal01US i missed the link as usual, thanks!

  • @OGSuperDirty
    @OGSuperDirty9 ай бұрын

    These guys would get wrecked by the new gen kids. There's 10 yr olds out there frying.

  • @Tovvvija
    @Tovvvija4 жыл бұрын

    before the HUH! era ;)

  • @bigbosssmiling7135
    @bigbosssmiling71354 жыл бұрын

    who else misses windows xp and office 97? :(

  • @nelonnnusk
    @nelonnnusk8 ай бұрын

    They knew that Tresh is Elon Musk himself.

  • @Windrider784
    @Windrider78411 ай бұрын

    It's weird to see a time before gamers called each other the n word during deathmatches.

  • @DaRealKing303
    @DaRealKing30310 ай бұрын

    No hopping is just weird.. I could have wrecked both these dudes at the same time 😂

  • @IlIIIllIII
    @IlIIIllIII3 жыл бұрын

    did people use the term no lifes back then if the player was very skilled

  • @MrFunnyHandsInYourPants

    @MrFunnyHandsInYourPants

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haters back then also. People who did not understand us gamers and thoughts they were somehow higher up than us. Like it is our hobby, leave us alone we aren't hurting anyone.

  • @IlIIIllIII

    @IlIIIllIII

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrFunnyHandsInYourPants so they're not any different than today? if the players better, they'd call them a no life?

  • @MrFunnyHandsInYourPants

    @MrFunnyHandsInYourPants

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IlIIIllIII i say it is a little more mainstream today, esports is broadcast on major television networks, even with covid vid game matches are played on espn (nba, college football, tennis) by fellow athletes. It is still criticized though and I think it will still continue to be since it is not a "traditional" way to make income since it is secretary you're not really sweating or engaging in labor for your hard earned pay (working the farm, melting steel, surgeon, construction foreman, etc)

  • @bshthrasher

    @bshthrasher

    3 жыл бұрын

    People didn't play games 24/7 back then, because they didn't have high speed internet or LAN available at home. No lifers in gaming appeared later with WoW and other MMO games.

  • @MrFunnyHandsInYourPants

    @MrFunnyHandsInYourPants

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bshthrasher false

  • @FrostRare
    @FrostRare Жыл бұрын

    I’m sorry but Mike is getting a$$blasted

  • @ImDatOoz
    @ImDatOoz6 жыл бұрын

    stupid question but why aren't they bunny hoping that much ? too much noise ?

  • @impulse255dj

    @impulse255dj

    6 жыл бұрын

    ezioch Well noise is one consideration in dueling. It is worth mentioning though that in 1997 when this demo was recorded strafe jumping and bunny hopping were not widely utilized in deathmatch by most players. Although there were a few high profile players began utilizing it throughout 1998 it wasn't until late 99'/early 00' that it really became an essential part of the meta.

  • @ian7208

    @ian7208

    4 жыл бұрын

    It hadn't really developed as a technique yet, and it also works much better in quakeworld, not netquake (slightly different settings/programming/etc), which they're playing here.

  • @cherubyno
    @cherubyno5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing graphic, considering the ages!

  • @sovereignmind6822

    @sovereignmind6822

    4 жыл бұрын

    they are HD reskins, the demos play the footage back with whatever graphic settings and mods you are using on your version of Quake

  • @cherubyno

    @cherubyno

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sovereignmind6822 interesting! Thx for for the info!

  • @VALIS538
    @VALIS5385 жыл бұрын

    Pre strafe jump update ?

  • @yodamunkey

    @yodamunkey

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think this was just before they were good enough to bunnyhop lol. So funny. Really puts it in perspective. Imagine if Thresh played this guy: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aomeubOiidaZhs4.html

  • @yodamunkey

    @yodamunkey

    5 жыл бұрын

    I take it back, this guy is even better than the first link holy hell: kzread.info/dash/bejne/daV4s6uGiJSqiqg.html

  • @jaydee499

    @jaydee499

    4 жыл бұрын

    Strafe jump was always a math glitch and wasn’t intended in the original Quake design. id even tried a “fix” by removing it from the q2 beta. Hardcore players convinced them to keep it. It’s kind of funny that id backed into success in a way because there is no way quake would have been as popular with out strafe jumping

  • @Wobbothe3rd

    @Wobbothe3rd

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Jay Dee later in Quake 3 Carmack tried it again in an early patch, and immediately reinstated it after pushback.

  • @Funk0_
    @Funk0_11 ай бұрын

    Omg it’s the rocket launcher from tf2 they’re copying tf2

  • @realityvanguard2052
    @realityvanguard20525 жыл бұрын

    this was not filmed in 1997 lol 1080 p widescreen?

  • @endmiee35816efqe

    @endmiee35816efqe

    5 жыл бұрын

    No duh? Quake and Doom both had *demo files*, which you could record and upload online. It was a lightweight alternative to screencapture, which wasn't really a thing at the time. Files were relatively light, too, only being a few KBs in size(and when the internet was still at KB/s, this mattered. Most source ports of the game allow texture mods and obviously resolutions above 640x480/800x600. Said source ports also allow for playback of demo files, which is what is going on here. It is a demo file being replayed back in a port of the game which allows for texture mods and high resolutions. So technically, this was RECORDED in 1997, but it's not direct capture of the original game being played.

  • @fastnoc

    @fastnoc

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@endmiee35816efqe the demos were so small because all they carried was text arrays. since everything was universal back then there was no need to pack in anything else. So your engine did all the work when you played it back. ahh the memories. 3dfx & Dual voodoo cards made those horrid graphics run at max fps no matter what :)

  • @fastnoc

    @fastnoc

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@iamthetank44 I sure do! I had dual voodoo3 cards too. I rememmber thinking 'this is incredible' and it was so terrible looking compared to what's around now lol. I was in a clan called Xeno back in the day. you probably never heard of them, but they were big in gaming. It was strange to be in such a prestigious group and literally nobody in my real life had a clue that I played games.

  • @ignaciosavi7739

    @ignaciosavi7739

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its a demo file

  • @Wobbothe3rd

    @Wobbothe3rd

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@MyGSP this still works to this day with Quake 2 demos on Quake 2 RTX (!!!)

  • @fredriktennila5424
    @fredriktennila5424 Жыл бұрын

    Quake 1 is cool but its too fast., As you come from a corner a rocket could be hitting you right on n u dont hear its coming (more like direct hit, which i dont like too much...)... nice on sp but not mp. q3a/ql is slower and much more smooth, easier to play and modern still competitve as q1.Any1 agree?

  • @wiktoriaslominska8078
    @wiktoriaslominska80784 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a noob duel ;d

  • @davidchez513

    @davidchez513

    4 жыл бұрын

    The match was roughly a year after Quake was released. Surely the duel matches were primitive that time.

  • @DelasVC

    @DelasVC

    4 жыл бұрын

    This was even before they found out about bunny hopping 🤣

  • @davelister9755

    @davelister9755

    3 жыл бұрын

    They were smart players just bad hardware. I think that never was actually fully understood. Thresh and MikeJ both controlling the best positions and locking it down like the best of today do.

  • @hyper_channel

    @hyper_channel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davelister9755 for some reason it's so interesting to see

  • @spetznaz14
    @spetznaz146 жыл бұрын

    Skill level so low compared to later players, not sure Thresh was as good as some make out.. no offence.

  • @Khorney

    @Khorney

    6 жыл бұрын

    This was the highest level of quake at the time. Remember that there was no strafejumping yet, playing on CRT's, no 3d gfx cards and using ball mice. He was the best at the time, by far. If he had kept on playing he would obviously have improved like everyone else did. Remember that alot of the guys that became a top player in quake, like CZM and Fatal1ty were actually playing quake at this time as well but they were not in the top yet. It might seem like low level, but so does Muhammad ali's old boxing stuff compare to today's fighters. And remember, Thresh literally changed quake, John Carmack said that he made quake 3 easier for noobs because of Guys like Thresh.

  • @zatozatoichi7920

    @zatozatoichi7920

    6 жыл бұрын

    "Playing on CRTs" sounded like if a proper model weren't more than adequate for the highest level play possible - even today. Voodoo (1) was also available at the time. Ball mice generally suck, but there were some kinda "decent" options, even back then, like the original Microsoft IntelliMouse.

  • @davelister9755

    @davelister9755

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mechanically they were good for playing on a keyboard or track ball, they had no mice for gaming afaik. They have a firm understanding of positioning and item control though. The only thing I think is required of MikeJ that Thresh was doing good at is taking back control. Of course Thresh has the lead most of the match so MikeJ had to leave good positioning on Red Armor to try and tie the game, which threw control away eventually and Thresh just locked it down again. They were really smart players, not to be underestimated.

  • @crashoverride9681
    @crashoverride96817 жыл бұрын

    what a noobs plays?

  • @Khorney

    @Khorney

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nice troll attempt, but fail :)

  • @Talisman09

    @Talisman09

    6 жыл бұрын

    lol you probably weren't even born in 1997

  • @mbbm8002

    @mbbm8002

    6 жыл бұрын

    This is truly NOOBs play

  • @user-sr6pi5lp3q

    @user-sr6pi5lp3q

    6 жыл бұрын

    2:56 noob hits wall

  • @davidmacdonald9152
    @davidmacdonald91526 жыл бұрын

    This game blows

  • @SamJDH

    @SamJDH

    6 жыл бұрын

    you blow

  • @Wobbothe3rd

    @Wobbothe3rd

    Жыл бұрын

    It's the GOAT.

  • @anonymousanonymous3707

    @anonymousanonymous3707

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Wobbothe3rd it's finely distilled dopamine just the purest hit 😂

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