For those curious, all the automatic TV dimming features on the C2 can be turned off. Just requires either a service remote or software that allows you to tweak things on the TV.

@GraylanSakaris

6 ай бұрын

There was a fix in firmware 03.33.65 a couple of months ago that finally fixed the ASBL issue on the C2. I’m sure there’s more that could be done in the service menu, but it just voids the warranty which always freaked me out haha.

Lee, it's been fun watching your monitor journey. I'm figuring out this same thing for my studio so it's been very helpful!

@FStoppers

6 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it!

@vlcthefish

6 ай бұрын

@@FStoppers As someone who use to have quad 4k monitors if you want to step up to the next level get two 49" ultrawide monitors and stack them

I’ve had a 42”LG C2 OLED for over a year as my main monitor. The auto dimming doesn’t bother me at all and I’ve had zero burn in.

I just jumped from a 42C2 for almost two years to a 48C4 for 3 weeks and now finally on the 55S90D. I love it! I figured id get rid of my 2nd monitor and use a 55 inch! I have my screen set up into 4 squares. My chair is reclined back a bit. I'm at least 3.5 feet away and its great! If gaming, i just push my seat back a bit.

It's been fun to watch your process Lee. I went through a similar on a few years back and opted for a 42". I recently upgraded from an old LG 43' LCD (HORRIBLE color, maybe 73% sRGB) to a LG C2 42" and it's been AMAZING, the size can be a little big from time to time, but for the most part is absolutely amazing. I think that the 55" would be too big for me

You should have gotten the 42inches one, I got it and it's perfect! Another thing is we often ignore how contrast plays a big role in resolution perception.

a curved 8K display about that size along with some software updates from macos to support the features you described would be dope

It sounds to me, curved TVs need to come back and maybe offer a dome like TV where not only the sides curve in but the top and bottoms too for the purpose of sitting close like a personal IMAX at your desk. 8k resolution though. I've seen tech channels review monitors/TVs that can flex from flat to curved for personal preference, but they're expensive and experimental.

Really good points I've never heard before. Very helpful. Thx.

This is such a well made video! Love the switching setup editing! I was personally thinking getting a 32 inch monitor as a second screen with my macbook pro 15

@FStoppers

6 ай бұрын

Go 42!

@edisondairo3618

6 ай бұрын

cost is 1263 usd @@FStoppers

I think the ideal setup is 3 monitors (2 "smaller" ones & one larger one on the end to use as an output display) I would much rather look left and right slightly with the monitors angled towards me, than deal with 4 looking up all the time. I think you need to compromise, 3 is the sweet spot imo.

@contentsdiffer5958

6 ай бұрын

Having to tilt your head back a few degrees sounds pretty horrible, but is actually great for your health.

after many years of my own monitor journey ... my latest ideal setup is 2 panels. 35" curved ultrawide mounted 1" off of desktop surface, with a 49" curved TV mounted above and tilted downward toward the viewing position. The slight curve of both screens seems to help with the corners not "feeling" so far away. I built 2 vertical frame rails on the back of my desk - mounted the upper TV with a simple tilting mount that is flush against the rails, and the monitor below is mounted using a telescopic / accordion type mount where it can be pulled forward 12" closer to the viewing position (my desk is also very deep). The monitor's factory stand would not adjust low enough for my liking, so I removed it and mounted it as low as possible to the desk surface to reduce the overall mounting height of the TV above (in an effort to reduce neck strain from long hours of staring at both screens). I've had this setup for a couple of years now - and it is by far my favorite! keep experimenting my man!

Love what you are doing here. A couple of things.... 1) in KZread just use the theater mode (2 left of the full screen choice). This is how I watch most videos on my OLD Dell 32 inch monitor (with the browser set to a comfortable size... more later). 2) I get you like to full screen within each monitor. At work (when I worked in the office pre-pandemic) I never full screened anything with a 2 monitor setup. I sized all my "windows." Way too much white space in the tools I use. As for at home, with the 32"... I want bigger. And since I like sizing all my apps ("windows"), I am seriously considering that LG C3 at 42 inches (it's in my Amazon wish list). Some time after February I am going to be turning my dining room into an office... and I think I "need" that bigger monitor. So.... thanks for all your testing. It helped me out a lot. Not sure yet on that expensive dock. BTW... I too HATE the menu bar on my MacBook air (but I try my best to never use it) and not a big fan of the Dock (I was a PC guy until 2 years ago), so let us know when you and your friend come up with a fix for it.

i got the c3 42 for 850 + 5 year geeksquad and i had 3 monitors, two stacks and a side and this is so much , and flex zones is fucking amazing on pc and whatever you said it was for mac. the Oled Colors are jus so beautiful ,and you're the first one that has mentioned the dimming feature beingfixed, because I was very hesitant to purchase one for that reason alone, I am glad to find the same result you have had, I aalso thought having a 2080 was going to be a problem and that was also fixed, without gsync on and the adapter. so overall 20/10 best experience I have had and then I bought the C3 for my room so the picture quality never changes and now looking at my iphone , is disrepsectul to my eyes, love the content!

I've been using a Vizio 32" 4K TV for years. Love it.

Great video … can you (or have you already?) share the settings you changed on the OLED TV? thanks

I use a 42" C3 and it works really well for me, from programming to gaming and consuming media I really have no complaints.

@descendency

6 ай бұрын

I tried it with a C2 and I just couldn't stand the TV-ness of it. I went back to a 27" monitor.

@RoyalBoyle78

2 ай бұрын

@@descendencythe 42” seems like a monitor then monitors

I'm using LG C2 48". The ABL isn't a problem. It only dims when nothing is moving and just like C3, it becomes bright again when you move your mouse.

The C3 does have a "dual PC" mode, where you can connect two HDMI inputs. This way mac os would at least see it as two separate monitors, give you two menu bars, etc....

@definingslawek4731

6 ай бұрын

but then will it split it into two squarish screens or will it be two tiny 16x9s?

@bricaaron3978

4 ай бұрын

@@definingslawek4731 Do you mean 16 x 4.5s?

@definingslawek4731

4 ай бұрын

@@bricaaron3978 I meant two 16x9's because when I tried this mode on my c3 it didn't fill up the vertical resolution, it made two 16:9 windows side by side, so a lot of the screen was black.

@bricaaron3978

4 ай бұрын

@@definingslawek4731 Oh.... Something like two 1920 x 1080 quadrants?

You should give curved superwides a try. I have the LG 38" 38WN95CP-W UW4K, IPS and I love it!

Two 1080p monitors are doing me well. Nice big letters and excellent PS and LR!

Hey Lee! - thanks for putting this video together. I am currently researching how to set up my 4 x monitor set up and was wondering if you ever consider the 1 over 3 configuration? I currently run 3 x 4k 27" horizontally and thought I would go the 1 of 3 when I get my M3 MAX but based on the ergenomics of it all, I am thinkging 2 over 2 might be optimal like what you have here? Considering you were talking about ergernomics, was interested if you had any experince or did any research on the 1 over 3 config?

I use a 55 inch LG OLED TV instead of the multiple BenQ monitors that I used to. One feature that I love is that I have have much more variety about where on the screen I an put the programs I am using. On 4 monitors I could use 4 different programs, but on the OLED TV I can arrange those programs anywhere I want. I can have 4 programs arranged on the screen just like the 4 monitors, but on the OLED I can pull a program right to the middle of the screen if I want to.

@bricaaron3978

4 ай бұрын

I've been using a 55" OLED55B7A as a PC gaming display since 2018. It's a High FoV Gaming setup, in which my viewing distance for gaming is 18", giving me a horizontal Display FoV of 106°. When the in-game FoV is increased to ~106° the image is distortion-free since the In-game and Display FoVs match, and the immersion is indescribable.

Have you looked into the Samsung Odyssey Ark 2023 edition? It's a curved 55" monitor, that allows you to use 4 inputs simultaneously on the same screen, thus giving you the feeling of 4 individual monitors while only having one monitor to deal with. It's expensive ($2500 USD), but could be a best of both worlds solution for your use case.

Thank you for a productivity focused review. All the others are gaming. I want Max real estate for Max screens open with spreadsheets, texts, PDFs etc. You're review helped enormously. My biggest concern with the TV option was small text getting blurry in so many windows... But I'm getting that's not much of an issue. You keep returning to the 8k concept. Is it for that reason? Also glad you use Mac. I got divvy and what a game hanger. Thanks for that too.

Hmm, great video. I think for me a TV sounds so enticing however I believe you bring up great points, so I decided on a 34-inch Monitor with 2 27-inch on top Thank you, sir.

Also have you tried a simple quad viewer box that combines 4 input signals into one 4k 60p signal. That would solve our menu bar problem

@FStoppers

6 ай бұрын

I own one but didn’t test it. I want an 8k one but they cost 20k

Next test i would love to see.. two ultrawide 49 on top of each other.... with 2 inputs per monitor so they can still behave as 4 independent monitors.

Wow. This is the comparison I didn't know I needed. A 4K TV is now officially not an option for me. Now I'm wondering about a 5k2k display vs 4 2k displays 🤔

Great Video!

Have you considered using 2 ultrawide monitors instead of 4 standard monitors? You can also get curved ultrawides so could be a good option

@JuentherGauch

6 ай бұрын

was also going to recommend that. There are some 4k ultrawides, i think they are often called "5k2k" monitors, so 5120x2160 (4k resolution in height but 21:9 aspect ratio), for example the LG 34WK95U-W

@jmssun

6 ай бұрын

Don’t get the LG one.. uncommon resolution issues, so so HDR.., but Image retention/burn in for some reason is a thing for this.. 😂 the LG 5k2k has been a nightmare for me.

@JuentherGauch

6 ай бұрын

@@jmssun uff ok

@NiallEveritt

6 ай бұрын

This would be sweet 🤤

@PatchedBandit

6 ай бұрын

This is true! I have one LG 38" 38WN95CP-W UW4K, IPS and I love it.

I have 3 x 24 " monitors next to each other and one 43" 4K television on top of them and I love it

Still working with a 24" 1080p display, bought almost 15 years ago; for my work I don't need anything extra for now. Great IPS panel (my monitor is by HP, but the inside LG panel was used at the time in Eizo monitors), still calibrates with a DeltaE inferior to 0,3, that's a workhorse for color correction. Will change it only when it will die, or if I'll start recording in 4k, which is not needed at the moment by my customers.

About KZread full screen in-window, just use the "Theater Mode" button, two buttons to the left of "Full Screen."

@4:21 Now I can't unsee that dead pixel ....

Can you make another video on this explaining about HDR content editing in DR using this OLED TV as monitor?

For the preview size, if u drag n downsize it and then go up and down on the file list with the arrow keys then the size doesnt go back to big size

I have a 55 in LG C1 OLED as my main panel and an Alienware 34 in OLED as my side Poratrait panel running Windows 11. By far this is the best setup. I love watching movies, play games and watch some adult content on the couch. So I can always switch from my office chair, to my recliner lazy chair just by literally switching seats.

maybe try a curved TV? I think that my 34 inch curved utralwide is enough, but I would love to try a 42 inch C3, mostly because gaming would feel better. BTW, is it really that hard to make it auto-wake up? I have my TV setup so that I turn on the Playstation and then it turns on the TV automatically, which turns on the sound system. Maybe it's a docking station configuration issue?

I am in your boat. I had a thripple monitor setup with a 4k on top running surveillance software. I also had a multiple 4k / 1080p setup at the office. Went to a different job and planned on picking up the super wide samsung monotor for about 10% gaming while not working. I have looked and the 8k TVs are in the same price range. I am thinking I might as well do that.

You need to install full window KZread chrome extension for chrome and it will fill the video to the size of your chrome window.

I would suggest adopting turning your chair and keeping you neck neutral when having to look off to the edges. That might help alleviate the neck fatigue.

Damn what a setup

@Fstoppers what is a good software for viewing clips before importing them in Premiere Pro. Or do you view all of them in Premiere? Thank you!

What is your opinion of the Samsung Odyssey monitor? Or LG ultra?

I’ve been watching those car guys recently as well

I think for windows users that menu bar problem and also the windows management issue is not a problem. Main issues would be the pixel density and the flatness of TV which requires more head movement at 55inch

I've just taken the plunge with a 65" Samsung QN800B 8K TV, moved my desk back and am now loving being at 4ft from the screen with a vast amount more screen real estate than my old 3x 28" 4K set up. Resolution is epic and I'm going to create a few videos on it to show what I've been doing to maximise my working habits and keeping my regular stuff at the lower 2/3 of the screen to avoid neck pain. It's fricking awesome for gaming as well though with 4K 120Hz and 8K 60Hz!

@dougtracey53

6 ай бұрын

It was also on a crazy Black Friday deal so only £1200 inc VAT with a 3 year warranty in the UK

@bricaaron3978

4 ай бұрын

@@dougtracey53 8K would be great for a High FoV Gaming setup, but I could never ever deal with LCD.

@dougtracey53

4 ай бұрын

​@@bricaaron3978this is sick though with 8K MiniLED Samsung QN800B 65"going to do a video review of it as it's awesome for working and gaming as will do 4K 120Hz.

The best solution is to use a VR headset like the comming Vision Pro to scale your screems however you want while you work on a confortable sofa.

What about a 5k2k Ultrawide 40" on the bottom and either (2) 4k Monitors or (1) Apple 5k monitor on top? The LG and Dell 40" ultrawides give you great resolution and no bezel in the middle...

Question, what did you do for color calibration on the TV?

iew! Do you know if all the functionality of this TV can be accessed if I use it as a computer monitor, and will all the sound play through my computers audio interface?

lol @ the Father son Duo from car edge! love them!

Did U considered - Samsung Odyssey Ark 55 inch Mk2 - yes its only 4K but curved and 16:9 ratio - still propably would tick more boxes then ur curent setups.

Shout out to the Car Edge team!

I use 4 monitors (Windows), but not all the same size. I have one main 30" as the central main screen, then 3 smaller monitors on the sides and it works extremely well IMO. All screens tilted perfectly toward where I sit and very convenient to be able to maximize a window on one of the screens. I've considered using an 8K TV instead, but just cant see it working equally well.

@vlcthefish

6 ай бұрын

I've done that as well along in the past. I have two 49" ultrawides now. Never going back to the quad setup. You will realize how amazing it is to have no bezels in the middle horizontal.

want an update on how it's going with the ivanky dock. thanks.

Oh good I still can't decide if I should switch to a 4x 4K screen setup or get a large 8K monitor.

What laptop did you use to connect those 4 monitors? Thank you

I worked with mac for 10+ years and i find two 27-inch optimal. On each you can have as many desktops you like. Use Mission control and App windows to switch. Use one instance of Finder that are set to "All desktops".

How does the color space on HDR compare to an Adobe RGB monitor? I’m thinking about upgrading to an Adobe RGB capable monitor but they are expensive and I’m not really sure if I will get better prints. Seems like a lot of money to experiment with. Any advice is much appreciated.

For better youtube video experience: right click TWICE on the video and select Enter Picture in Picture…you can resize the pop up a little bit

I have been using 4 monitors on my system for about 8 years now. The setup has always been 3 monitors laterally, with a big 32 in the center, curved, with 2 27" curved left and right. My top (4th) monitor is actually a teleprompter, so I can do video conferences and have eye contact with my customers. Oh wait, it isn't 4 monitors, it is 5. I have the laptop sitting under my right hand monitor, and it is also an extended monitor. So 5, yeah. Don't do this without a cooling pad! There IS another 4 monitor doc, which is made by WavLink. Super fantastic product. It has support for 4 HDMI or DP monitors. I also have this on a KVM with two systems. My first system is a gaming system, PC, about 5 years old now, but still rocks any game I play. The second one is my MacBook Pro 2019. It has an i7 with 32 Gig of Ram. I have the 4 monitor Doc for this, and it runs on a single Thunderbolt 4 cable to run all 4 monitors. I think I will do a video and link it here later, just so you can see this setup.

@DavidsHawkins

5 ай бұрын

the other thing on my setup, it is built with all used parts, so none of my monitors cost more than $250. The 32" center is a ROG monitor, while the two left and right monitors are curved MSI monitors. The curve arc is very nice because it puts the edges of the monitors within your peripheral vision if you are looking at the center monitor.

If You have 24mpx camera 4k monitor is a little too small for 50% zoom in editing softwares because editing panels. Try to find 5k - 6k or something similar.

Just a thought how about making the font bigger did you try that.

I am waiting for the 4k oled monitors thay come next year, and going to have an LCD IPS for productivity and the OLED for games

tvs do have a auto wake feature, its called CES, and that can power on the display.

There are now 49" 32:9 OLED monitors in 2X4K instead of 2XQHD!! Just mount 2 of those above each other. They are also curved, so always perfectly tilted towards your eyes.. But this will be EXPENSIVE..

Any opinions on two ultrawide 49" stacked

tv is great for a studio setup with wireless keyboard so you see it from a far while tethered to a camera

Have you tried going dual 5K displays?

I used to have a 40" TV, that was not workable for me, I have gone to a 32" and use two of them. One is the Samsung M8, I use the TV function on that too. My gaming rig has its own 144Hz monitor.

What about two 5k2k monitors? Or two Dual 4k monitors?

I have a 43” Dell 5k2k with a second 32” 4k monitor to the left.

I see a lot of Lucky Lopez and Car Edge in this video - are you just a car guy or do you do work in the auto industry? Super curious.

Maybe Try Dual Ultrawides... But for 8k you would need the new 57" Neo G9 which are currently $2000 each so....

The OLED burn-in is still a big issue since LEDs dim over time as they wear out. There is no way to fix that issue with the panels. Since they also use a TFT layer to essentially act as switches for the OLED subpixels, the TFT layer can have its own set of retention, and the pixel refresh will remove that, but uneven wear of the OLED layer cannot be fixed or corrected with the pixel refresh. This is simply the nature of this technology.

@bricaaron3978

4 ай бұрын

It's actually not a big issue at all. I have over 10,000 hours on a 2017 LG OLED55B7A used as a PC gaming monitor with _zero_ image retention. I started to get image retention right away, and realized that I needed to make changes. I turned the OLED Light (brightness) down to '10', hid the Taskbar, removed everything from the desktop, and set the desktop background to black or 50% grey. After that, the retention went away and never came back. If I play the same game for several weeks straight (WoW, Skyrim, etc.) the HUD might be slightly retained, but it goes away when you stop playing that game. OLED is for people who understand what it is, why they need it, and are willing to observe proper operating procedures. Everyone else should probably go with another technology for now.

Like I said in the last post, you should have looked at the OLED Monitors from Asus and LG, not their TV's. Like the LG 48GQ900-B and the Asus ROG Swift OLED PG48UQ. They address many of the issues you had with the TV. I was speaking from experience, because I used a C1, then a C2 as monitors. Autowake, dimming, etc, are not longer a problem-even though the C3 panels no longer have this issue. But on my desktop, I run Windows on two 48" Asus ROG PG48UQ's, and one 32" Cintiq. Don't have any issues with multimonitor use or setup at 2.5ft from usage position. But I guess you're issue is also concerned about price, and that price was more important than picture quality for you? Which you didn't mention in the first video. If that's the case, then yes, a large screen OLED is not for you in comparison to other options, because no large format OLED are as inexpensive. But you should have also considered splitting the difference with two 4k 42" OLED monitors instead of one 55" OLED, would probably have made your setup more useful.

I used Many setups for work as a Linux engineer (i look a lot at command line terminal) i found 3 x 27 inch 1440p monitors to work the best for me and as far as at home setup I prefer my 42 4k oled monitor and 27 inch 1440p monitor on a side. I think its about efficiency I do not want to deal with any window management software to split things up best to have 3 different hardware level monitors and going beyond 3 you start to lose track of what is where.

@vlcthefish

6 ай бұрын

Try dual 49" ultrawides. I used to have your setup but the 49" ultrawides are incredible.

@Eskoxo

6 ай бұрын

@@vlcthefish Nah i prefer to not have to use software to split things up and 49 gives 2 27inch screens instead of 3 and dual route i dont need 4.

you forgot to add in the switch in the total price

I went 2 ultra wide curved monitors stacker vertically. Tried, huge monitor… hated it. 4 screens drove me nuts. 2 ultra wide stacked is perfect. You can wide screen applications that benefit from it, which is a lot for me.

Can you make this experiment in with 8k tv?

Isnt there any software that divides your4k screen such that its perceived as 4x1080p monitors by the OS. I am not saying I know one, but I bet there is.

@godmode3359

4 ай бұрын

I wish

How about Dual 57" Odyssey Neo G9 Dual 4K UHD

42 inch lg C3 is just perfect for me. Oddly enough I get no neck strain than when using a 27 in. I'm using a 70cm deep desk.

When you use Windows, it already has separate menu bar. You can use it entirely as you got 4 or more screen. I always use it 5 windows at the time. 1 Words, 2 browser windows, 1 cctv monitor, 1 files explorer. That ""always full screen" is not a problem in my PC, I use K-Lite player and it can be set to retain previous position/size. So, after rocking my 49 and 43 inches 4k as a monitor for years, I can't go back to monitor anymore. 55 probably too much, 43 is a bit small, I think 49, 50 is the perfect size for monitor.

you can buy a program , that can Split the tv into 4 fullscreens

@godmode3359

4 ай бұрын

What is it?

I use a 48” C1 and the dimming drives me nuts!

you gotta rethink your arm position in the opening shot ;)

I think a 42" inch is best with 1 or 2 extra monitors

do you know an ips 10 bit tv for like 400-600 euros

Also need to add the price of the dock.

Hey you watch CarEdge too?

As someone who use to use 3 monitors best thing i did was "downgrade" to 1 ultrawide monitor with a side monitor that i rarely use.

i wanna see you test the samsung ark display that might be pretty good

how do you lose resolution but gain image quality?

Agree, tv 40-ish inches is great. But get an Oled... dont get convinced on the QLED or Neo QLed... oled is so much better

I've been using a 43" Samsung TV 1080p for over 10 yrs. Earlier this year, I took a Sony 43" X85K LED 4K UHD ($550) to my workplace to replace the office's 27" Dell monitor. Now, everyone in my department, including Finance dept has converted to Sony, once the new fiscal year was in place. I took my Sony back home and will buy another one in order to have side-by-side viewing. BTW, I have the LG 77" C3 OLED for over a year and it's awesome.

C3 48' above 2*24' dell touch screens.

this man underestimates my ability to jump through hoops