I use analog meters every day. An absolute must for testing electronic components. Sometimes my analog meter shows a faulty diode, but my DMM says its fine.

@circuitblog01

5 жыл бұрын

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@SteveAaron

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed 100%. My analog meters show me things that my digital ones can’t. And I’m particularly fond of my very old, yet very accurate, VTVM’s.

I used to think analogue meters were redundant old technology. Until I picked up an engineering text book from 1998 mentioning how analogue meters make it easier to read fluctuations. Your video here demonstrates this excellently. You have a new subscriber.

I love your videos and how well and simple you make them. I am beginner at electronics and was watching you beginner videos. You have so many videos that i cannot find it anymore and get lost in your sea of videos lol. If i can find it again ill try to learn some more from your great videos. Thanks

Have used both meters for several years and stilled learned something new, thank you!

I still think there is a place for a analog meter on the work bench. Sometimes the visual stimulation is required, especially when you do not need to measure absolute values.

Very interesting, I've got a digital multimeter but I've got a soft spot for the analog's as they tend to give you a better representation of the ranges on the analog scale. This is why I still like mathematical slide rules compared to digital calculators.

I have an analog Micronta that I have had since I was a child. It was a gift from my grandfather from Radio Shack. It is a huge one too. It is my go to meter for nearly every project, but I do have a cheap digital for when I need to get real accurate voltage measurements down to the 2 decimal places (like measure a lead acid battery to see its state of discharge) Once thing I have noticed is a lot of digital meters have a hard time with accurately measuring voltage of Modified AC Sine waves off of inverters. My analog doesn't have that problem. I think though if you do a lot of electronics work you definitely need to have both.

@tristan6509

8 ай бұрын

9 years late, but you need a true-RMS meter for reading square waves accurately

Another thing to consider with a analog meter is the input impedance - the handheld model you're displaying has a 20K/Volt rating which is probably ok for portable use. At the bench a VTVM with often a 11M/Volt rating will load down your circuit that much less (if the circuit is sensitive to that kind of loading). One of the most useful functions, and why I keep a VOM/VTVM on the bench, is the ability to quickly adjust/tune a circuit by looking for a peak or null...hard to do with a digital display, even a DVM bar graph. As usual nice video Martin, thanks!

great demonstration , thank you !

I have never seen a better video on multi meters that's a great as this, this is the most entertaining video i have ever seen. 10/10. I have watched 420 times now. This video would make the most suicidal of people cheer up. you and your eyebrows deserve those 193 thousand subs. I love you sir.

Another good video. I personally like digital meters. The only time I like to use an analog meter, is for sensitive detection circuits where you would like to see slight changes in voltage or current.

@aepullfrozz2794

4 жыл бұрын

And for the motorcycle ?what the best meter analog or digital (just ask).....for me analog is better than digital on RPM meter and speed like defi meter

@tristan6509

8 ай бұрын

Ideally you'd use an oscilloscope for that, but an analog multimeter is a cheap solution

First, nice choice on your DMM. I also have the Fluke 87V. Wouldn't trade it for the world. Another Tester I have is a Simpson 260 analog. My first shop experience was using an analog meter. What I have found is that they are great for watching your capacitor charge and discharge rate. Also they are great to sniffing your defective switches: shaky needle - bad switch.

I started on a micronta clamshell, and went to a Fluke 77 many yrs back. Recently we had a fire at my work which melted my new series 4 model 77. This prompted me to evaluate what i need in a meter, i opted for a new Simpson 270-5 and a cheap tenna dvm. I am so glad i went analog. So much more precision and fast action on the 270. No comparison. The Simpson for my purposes is hands down superior to even the Fluke it replaced.

Very informative thank you! Despite its obvious drawbacks, I may pick myself up an analog meter. could be very useful for seeing oscillations that are too quick for the sampling rate of my digi meter.

One other advantage of analog meters: when something goes wrong and you've overcurrent/voltage, you can here the ping of the needle hitting the right side of the scale ;) . And then hope, you didn't shoot the meter... Nah, honestly, analog meters are pretty useless nowadays. The only advantage I really still have to give to them, as you mentioned, is seeing the change. But if I really would want to see that, I'd use a scope anyways. There are just too many other disadvantages: slow, hard to read correctly from an angle, wrong reading if they aren't oriented correctly (most of them have to lie flat), low internal resistance in voltage measurements aso.

@gordslater

9 жыл бұрын

Horses for courses. I have a lot of personal digital bench and portable gear but I still use analogue meters for most jobs except calibration checking which is where a good 4-wire 6.5 digit DMM really stands out. My workflow is far faster for fault finding with a analogue meter and at the end of the day that's money. Once you get the knack of judging the voltage from the rate of rise of the needle you rarely need to look at the scale itself for checking around ICs for DC levels. For more complex work I use active probes on analogue meters when I need high impedance or high bandwidth, 100MegaOhm or 500MHz is easily attained with the right setup at low cost and reasonable flatness One thing that really annoys me about DMMs (even quality ones) is their susceptibility to RF fields. In addition, some are noisy at RF themselves, making small-signal or EMC work rather difficult with them. Modern scopes may have high specs but when it comes down to everyday use for my work they are rather pointless. The scope I use the most is a cheap re-badged unknown manufacturer with CRT dual with 20MHz -3dB point - and that's mainly for the X-Y mode. I had to hack a Z connection to it to make it more useful. I have a selection of more modern scopes, including a Tek MSO4104B and DPO71604C. They haven't been powered on for a while or two and don't really pay for themselves. Try getting fast potentiometric readings down to 0.005% accuracy with a DMM and you'll see what I mean. I use various bridge configurations to match precision components to this accuracy all the time for specialist design work - trying to use a DMM to balance the bridge is almost impossible to do in a hurry. Amongst my colleagues and peers, analogues are still the norm for faultfinding production equipment and troubleshooting new designs. Departmental testgear budgets are six-figure per annum but if you look around the benches they are covered in AVOs and VTVMs - you should see the look on the faces of postgrads when they look around. After a couple of years on the job they are buying old meters off Ebay for peanuts just like the rest of us and calibrating them on the (analogue) comparison bridges once a month :)

@1ohtaf1

5 жыл бұрын

@@gordslater An analogue VOM that uses active probes? What?

Seems a bit over damped, to me. You would assume they would have put trim pots for each scale and use the external one just to zero the leads. I can't remember if you said you aren't able to get a simpson, but I bet a tear down on one of them would have cal pots for every range. Analogs do have there uses, I have a cheep nasty one and hardly ever use it. But when I do, its an instant relative indicator. Nice upload, Thanks

@soyegranville3180

7 жыл бұрын

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I had two Sanwa Yx360trf, and both died on me every after 10 years of very slight use. For example, I only use it once to measure a battery AAA voltage and then kept it in cabinet with batteries removed. Ten years passed, I took the analog meter and used it again, and weeks later I notice the resistance measurement no longer works. Despite new battery. This happens to me twice on two Sanwa Yx360trf. I don't use the analog meter that much, but I wanted it to be around in case i need it. I saw, that contact rusting is the prime cause. This third time around, I bought a Fluke 17B+ and hope this one will last.

my needle is not working well since the fuse got busted. i have an analog multimeter when i set it to the lowest reading the needle wont zap to right like it used to it just went to the middle. please help. im just new on this thing.

@amdbtk

5 жыл бұрын

Battery change?

Great video thanks

which one do you prefer. I do use both and find it more interesting to use the analog meter but seems to me the digital one has many advantages over the moving needle of the analog meter. Never the less I still prefer the analog because it's cooler =) PS I do realize this is an old video...

do the Sanwa PC7000 review! i want to see what's inside, but i dont want to open mine >_

Analog meters have their place when you have oscillating voltages and etc. It's a lot easier to identify them, that's why I only keep one, the rest of my multimeters are digital.

@cristianoferreira2052

4 жыл бұрын

How do you measure small leaks in transistors? The digital ones cannot measure.

@aepullfrozz2794

4 жыл бұрын

And for the motorcycle ?what the best meter analog or digital (just ask).....for me analog is better than digital on RPM meter and speed like defi meter

Analog shows the same movement for magnitude change regardless of the starting point if the scale is linear. But on a digital you might have one digit change, or all of them change, which intuitively looks like a bigger difference. I knew a man who could repain anything, and he used a big vintage voltmeter on his desk. It couldn't be pulled by the leads. He said it was much better. The scale was also finer on it. The auto ranging should be turned off like on early digital multimeters. I feel very uneasy if I see microvolts displayed and I'm about to touch mains voltage with the meter. The Fluke is unreachable for most people. Other meters update less often, and the time to settling is therfore longer.

I have the exact same digital meter and taken several comparisons between that and my Simpson 260 on several electrical items. They were both spot on and agreed with the resistance findings

Thanks for the video. Evidently a vehicle TPS can not be read correctly with a digital meter so buying an analog meter to do the job.

@CaleoFL

7 жыл бұрын

yep.. thats what im in need for now. for my tps for my jeep. so analog it is

If you have a look at Jestine Yongs website and in particular his book 'Testing electronic components' he extensively uses an analogue meter over a digital one. However, the necessity to have a scale going from x1, x5, x10, x100 etc is carefully explained. I agree with you 'horses for courses' Thanks Martin.

it would be nice if they made the needle really close to the background so parallax wouldnt be such a problem

Eve tried aligning an IF strip using a digital meter with an RF probe? I only use a analog meter for RF work. Ted VE6AMR

Digital multimeter like fluke and klein multimeter have input protection in their resustance. If you mistakenly forgot you have the meter on the wrong setting it will not explode. In a analog multimetet dosent have a inpuy protection in its resistance that might got to explode.

Analog meters are good for high voltage low energy stuff, as cheaper digital ones easily break if there is spikes in voltage. I have broken many

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I love analog multimeters

Thank you

Digital all the way!

I always prefer analog meter when it comes to voltage measurements, I've had cases with fake voltage when. I have tested with digital imeter t shows 12V DC but when I have measured with the analog it was 3 VDC, then I inspected the PCB and realised it is a fake voltage due to a thermistor issue on the PCB,

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I work on scooters for a living and sometimes I need to test the ignition components. The manuals say to use a specific model of meter to take the resistance readings. It says that because of the semiconductors in it that the wrong kind of meter will not give accurate results. Of course, the model of meter they recommend isn't made anymore. I think I've figured out that the reason you need a specific kind of meter is that most meters don't use enough voltage on the resistance test to push through the semiconductors. Does that make sense? Are there meters that use higher voltage to test resistance than others do?

Both digital an analog have their pros and cons. You need (a decent quality) one of each to have the capability do the full range of meter testing.

@yosefmacgruber1920

7 жыл бұрын

Why do I need analog when digital can do everything? Also, digital seems to handle "overload" indication and negative polarity better. If I like only digital watches, not analog, does that means I should use a digital multi-meter? I tend to think if I am just probing for where there is voltage, analog works fine, and I don't even need to turn it on or have a battery in my old analog meter. But if I want an accurate reading(s), digital is the obvious choice.

Does analog meter read true RMS?

@giriphotog

5 жыл бұрын

this is analog multi meter with true rms www.amazon.in/gp/product/B01MTSN3MP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

@jgwalling

4 жыл бұрын

Metro Q makes an analog true RMS meter

Thanks

If voltage is not stable - fluctuating signal, actually digital meter is better, because if fluctuations are fast, needle is too slow and you are not able to figure out min and max reading - amplitude of fluctuations, but on digital meter you have min/max button or you can switch meter to VAC and then measure only AC part of voltage, so you can measure amplitude of fluctioation directly. For example, if you have classic rectifier (50/60Hz) you can measure AC part of voltage on filtration capacitor. Decent quality digital meter is another level than some analog meter. Also quick measurements like measuring lot of resistors/voltages, and chcecking if they are in tolerance - you have data login feature, or you can set tolerance and meter just beep if it is OK and it is very fast.

@laharl2k

10 жыл бұрын

exactly what i was thinking. If i set mine to DCV and prove the mains i can clearly see the 50Hz in the bargraph. I dont think an analog one could keep up at that speed. It's fancier and all but as time passes there's less and less that a analog can do that a digital one cant. They still have their use in some old equipments for specific stuff though.

I just like coĺecting old analogue meters there grate for fixing old amiture rodio

AMM dont need battery for Volt and Ampere mode, only for Ohm need a battery. AMM are better for Ampere. DMM always measure Voltage

Analogue bar on a digital meter should easily help you compute whether its increasing or decreasing? Analogue meter has poor resolution and another disadvantage with analogue meter is polarity - wrong way can damage meter.

@Sparks52

7 жыл бұрын

If they're marked "CE" (UL in USA, CSA in Canada, TUV in Germany, etc.) and they've not actually been tested or certified, that's (1) civil trademark infringement and (2) more important, it's criminal fraud. In reality, for many people, the "El Cheapos" are sufficient for checking house wiring to switches and outlets, which is Cat II. I've used a $5 analog VOM for that for decades (has a mirrored scale too). Sits in the kitchen drawer. The real issue with them is more about the people who buy them observing proper safety procedures and probe/lead maintenance. Their target market and the folks most likely to grab one off the peg rack in the checkout lane of the grocery store are generally clueless about how to properly use one and they won't read the directions or the safety warnings as they demand "Plug-n-Play" devices. That's invariably the "cockpit error" that occurs when someone gets zapped using one. They don't know what the Hell they're doing, completely disregarding proper safety procedures and the condition of the probes and test leads they're using. Not the meter, but the Village Idiot using it.

Analog meters can take voltage spikes and trasients better than digital. All the diode arrays, spark gaps, gas tubes and MOV's add up making digital three to five times more expensive for a really good meter.

once i went digital i never went back to analog, hated them, imprecise measurements etc, to me even the cheapest digital outclasses an analog, i had a few british avo's model 40's {regarded as the best analog}

This is a bit of a curiosity but there is at least one auto-ranging analog meter: the Micronta (Radio Shack) 22-216: Radio Shack 22-216 Multimeter Review.mpg

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Ok presentation, but the screw adjustment for the needle is for a zero adjustment with no input. Not to adjust the accuracy.

If you can use the analog one correctly and easily, no problems will be faced with the digital.

Its much better having both electrical and electronics background and having both analog and digital. Analog is so much usefulness in electronics. Especially in identifying the transistor leds. It not only identify the PNP/NPN but the emmiter-base-collector visla difference in its resistance.

Analog is much better

I don't buy the deciphering advantage, you can put the dmm in relative mode, easy to spot, or min/max; the changing part, it's not so much a dmm problem, but a Fluke 87 V problem, which is a very slow DMM actually analog meters are extremely inaccurate, they have absolutely no place beyond general basic information display

Digitalis for me 100%

That is the zero set. It isn't for calibration. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

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hmm, no Martin, analog has no merit :) If showing changes was a priority then you could do a 1000Hz display that could accurately show a 200Hz oscillation and of course you can do oscilloscope functionality and show MHz or even GHz. analog meters are profoundly terrible.

Ha! I'm guess it's your first time using an analog meter? The rule of thumb is that you can estimate down to a 1/10 of a graduation with a good eye.

analog meters are good at recycling 😂

I still think there is a place for a analog meter on the work bench. Sometimes the visual stimulation is required, especially when you do not need to measure absolute values.