I don’t particularly care what Putin wants and doesn’t want. I care about the misery he’s _causing._ If he wants, he can stop it.

@asrafamani5028

16 күн бұрын

Just tell zalensky that go play comedian dont be politics to western then it will stop I think

@CoffeeAndPaul

16 күн бұрын

Mmm, can he? This news is telling us that Putin might not be able to stop what he's started. If someone as well-known as Mr. Navalny was (maybe) purposely killed WITHOUT the express order of the big boss, this means a power in Russia -& all parties in Russia are still supposed to operate (arguably) under the thumb & permissiveness of Putin, including the Russian Mob- was working external to or outside of Putin's control, & it's probably the Siloviki since they manage the prisons. Patrushev & the Siloviki are the most powerful interest group under Putin's immediate influence right now. That's not good in a corrupted society with nuclear weapons, so naturally the World will be concerned about this news. The Siloviki definitely don't control Russia's strategic nuclear weapons, but they probably still have access to deployable tactical weapons of mass destruction including small nuclear, short-life biological, & time-dependent-LD50 chemical weapons. After all it was the internal security services, not the regular Russian Armed Services, who decided to deploy airborne phenobarbital gases in the Dubrovka Theatre hostage crisis. The Russians' record there is mixed. They killed many of the hostages in the execution of the anti-terror raid & they supposedly captured none alive, which is a goal if you're running an anti-terrorist operation because you want to find out who told you to do this & all relevant information about them & possible cohorts.

@CoffeeAndPaul

16 күн бұрын

Mmm, can he? This news is telling us that Putin might not be able to stop what he's started. If someone as well-known as Mr. Navalny was (maybe) purposely killed WITHOUT the express order of the big boss, this means that a power party in Russia -& all parties in Russia are still supposed to operate (arguably) under the thumb & permissiveness of Putin, including the Russian Mob- is working largely external to or working outside of Putin's control. This would probably be the Siloviki since they manage the prisons. Patrushev & the Siloviki are the most powerful interest group under Putin's immediate influence right now, & the Russian armed services community run a close second. That's not good in a corrupted society with nuclear weapons. The Siloviki definitely don't control Russia's strategic nuclear weapons, but they probably have access to deployable tactical weapons of mass destruction including small nuclear, short-life biological, & time-dependent-LD50 chemical weapons. After all, it was the internal security services, not the regular Russian Armed Services, who decided to deploy airborne phēnobarb gas in the Dubrovka Theatre hostage crisis. The Russians' record there is mixed. They killed many of the hostages in the execution of the anti-terror raid & they supposedly captured none alive, & capturing someone alive is a goal if you're working for an anti-terrorist, government body because you want to find out who told you to do this & all relevant information about them & possible cohorts.

@CoffeeAndPaul

16 күн бұрын

Mmm, can he? This news is telling us that Putin might not be able to stop what he's started. If someone as well-known as Mr. Navalny was (maybe) purposely killed WITHOUT the express order of the big boss, this means that a powerful body of men in Russia -& all parties in Russia are still supposed to operate (arguably) under the thumb & permissiveness of Putin, including the Russian Mob- is working largely external to or working outside of Putin's control. This would probably be the Siloviki. They manage the prisons. Patrushev & the Siloviki are the most powerful interest group under Putin's immediate influence right now, & the Russian armed services community run a close second. That's not good in a corrupted society with nūkes. The Siloviki definitely don't control Russia's strategic nuclear weapons but they probably have access to deployable tactical weapons of mass destruction including small nuclear, short-life biological, & time-dependent-LD50 chemical weapons. After all, it was their internal security services, not the regular Russian Armed Services, who decided to deploy airborne phēnobarb gas in the Moscow Theatre hostage crisis. They killed many of the hostages in the execution of the anti-terror raid & they supposedly captured none alive, & capturing someone alive is a goal if you're working for an anti-terrorist, government body because you want to find out who told you to do this & all relevant information about them & possible cohorts.

@CoffeeAndPaul

16 күн бұрын

Mmm, can he? This news is telling us that Putin might not be able to stop what he's started. If someone as well-known as Mr. Navalny was (maybe) purposely double-tapped WITHOUT the express order of the big boss, this means that a power party in Russia -& all parties in Russia are still supposed to operate under the thumbs & permission of Putin, including the Russian Mob- is working largely external to or working outside of Putin's control. This would probably be the Siloviki since they manage the prisons. Patrushev & the Siloviki are the most powerful interest group under Putin's immediate influence right now, & the Russian armed services community run a close second. That's not good in a corrupted society with nukes. The Siloviki definitely don't control Russia's strategic nuclear weapons but they probably have access to deployable tactical WMD including small nuclear, short-life biological, & time-dependent-LD-fifty chemical weapons. After all, it was Russian internal security services, not the regular Russian Armed Services, who decided to deploy airborne phēnobårb gas in the Dubrovka Theatre hostage crisis. The Russians' record there is mixed. They offed many of the hostages in the execution of the anti-terror raid & they supposedly captured none of the criminal actors alive, & capturing at least 1 person alive is a goal if you're working for an anti-terrorist police force because you want to find out who told you to do this & all relevant information about them & possible cohorts.

If Navalny wasn't assassinated then why was he buried in Russia and not handed over to his family as they wanted?

@TrevorSachko

16 күн бұрын

Umm... he wasn't given back to his family?

@pandoraalberts5267

16 күн бұрын

There was a long delay. And reports say the corpse had been "mutilated", but there's no official statement to clarify what that means. I think it would be hard to question the family on these details.​@@TrevorSachko

@unconventionalideas5683

16 күн бұрын

He may have been assassinated against Vladimir Putin's wishes. That's not necessarily impossible.

@6F6G

16 күн бұрын

@@TrevorSachko He was buried in a Moscow cemetery.

@daydays12

16 күн бұрын

Indeed!

yes, he only buried him in a nightmare gulag prison, duh... don't fall for Russian misinfo pls

@lw1zfog

16 күн бұрын

R.I.P. GONZALO LIRA

@mcarranzaz

16 күн бұрын

​@@lw1zfog * R.I.H.

@matt.willoughby

15 күн бұрын

​@@lw1zfogDidn't he die of pneumonia?

@lw1zfog

15 күн бұрын

@@matt.willoughby depends who you ask

Who put Navalny in jail in the first place, come on now tell it like it is. Slava Ukraini and Slava the Free World!!!!

I find that very hard to believe that putin didn't have anything to do with it

@goonerboz6023

16 күн бұрын

That's because you have been brainwashed and cannot seem to accept the times the tv and newspapers are lying to you and are not your friends

@jimohara

16 күн бұрын

That’s to do with you

@marktwain5232

16 күн бұрын

Ditto. This is the most amateurish presentation I have ever seen.

@DavidGitongawriter

16 күн бұрын

Its understandable considering the amount of disinformation that accussed without evidence. Imagine what we don't know about NordStream and even the Ukraine War. Food for thought.

@roywatson8133

16 күн бұрын

either way i should not think pootin as lost much sleep over is passing

Nobody can really know for certain, but I would say this "leak" is pure stirring the mud in the puddle to create an element of doubt, and really should probably regarded as more Kremlin propaganda. Best wishes from George

@csonracsonra9962

16 күн бұрын

I'd say it's from the west, this is a the beginning of "a way out" for putin I bet

@georgejohnson1498

16 күн бұрын

@@csonracsonra9962 And you may well be right. One never knows what is going on behind the scenes. Perhaps there is still a back-channel between the Whitehouse and the Kremlin, but that would be a serious secret! Best wishes from George

@thinker646

16 күн бұрын

I 💯 agree with you!

@marktwain5232

16 күн бұрын

BINGO. That is the most rational read on this.

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

15 күн бұрын

@@georgejohnson1498the direct teleprinter connection isn’t a secret, although what is said using it usually is.

Crime bosses send indirect messages to their henchmen to create plausible deniability.....

Neglected he is responsible for the unjustified arrest then abuse and neglect is what killed him.

Why did they poison him if they didn't want him to die ?

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

15 күн бұрын

They aren’t very bright.

@zhen159

15 күн бұрын

It’s possible Putin could be dead And there might be behind-the-scenes Power vacuum

Social media reveals much more "secret" information than anywhere else now days

Russian miss info. Next.

Saying "the Kremlin lied" is like suggesting "trees are wood". Yeah. Of course. Ingrained behaviour.

Any one ever heard of - Know the commanders intent. Use your initiative. Keep the boss happy?

‘Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?’

@NefetariMoonRay

16 күн бұрын

HAHAHA SO COOL. PESKY RELIGION NAGGING IN MY HEAD. HE SAYS.

@NefetariMoonRay

16 күн бұрын

MORALITY BE LIKE A FLY GETTING IN THE WAY OF HIS POLITICAL INTENTIONS. BUT NETAN ALSO NEEDS A FLY SWAT TO GET AWAY FROM INTERFERENCE OF ANY CONSCIENCE BOTHERING HIM.

An absolute leader does not have to give an order... 'Will no one rid me of this turbulent political opponent?

Even if this is true, let's not forget how happy Putin was in the wake of Navalny's death. He may not have ordered it, but he wanted and liked it.

Everybody knows -60°C in the middle of a Siberian winter kills

@Withnail1969

16 күн бұрын

its a brutal prison system.

@gerryhouska2859

16 күн бұрын

@@Withnail1969 It is a brutal barbaric country.

@guff9567

16 күн бұрын

@@Withnail1969 The weather is pretty tough too. Maybe Navalny was gay and got too close to a gay-basher for warmth

@sot11cat

16 күн бұрын

​@@guff9567Guffy

@BruceJ999

16 күн бұрын

​@@guff9567😂😂😂

maybe not but who's going to believe anything putler says?

@13thbiosphere

16 күн бұрын

Apparently Mr. Put said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine and we believed him

@CGplay186

16 күн бұрын

@@13thbiosphere US has satellites cover the whole earth, their reports USA know long before that Russia were gonna invade seeing their troop movement, yet they didn't do anything or prepared Ukraine, with good defance you can do so any fighting only occurs at the border, so why did USA wait untill was too late, hmm.

@agnescraig2912

16 күн бұрын

The American Intelligence service believe Poo-in-tin

leaks.....plants

@American-In-Mykolaiv

16 күн бұрын

Leeks are plants.

Leak or deliberate misinformation. Dont be gullible 😂😂😂

Sounds like propaganda to me! Who did it if not pooptin?!

Dmitri Peskov: "US aid is causing more Ukrainian casualties!" Coming from the aggressor’s side, this level of gaslighting is just... beyond everything imaginable … wow.

@kareemdurrant139

16 күн бұрын

This ain't surprising.

@sot11cat

16 күн бұрын

Peskov worrying about Ukraine is an absurdity and an oxymoron per se.

@dalecrocker3213

16 күн бұрын

But it's obviously so. US aid extends the war and this obviously leads to more casualties.

@thinker646

16 күн бұрын

​@@dalecrocker3213stopping the war can also happen in 1 hour when Russia goes outside the boundaries of Ukrainian territory, and stays out. Like some of the aggression from black sea ships stopped when they decided to remove themselves from a position that continues the war. An ancient saying: Actions speak louder than words!

@dalecrocker3213

16 күн бұрын

@@thinker646 A Russian retreat isn't exactly likely though, is it?

Hook, line and sinker... and maybe the fricken tacklebox....

"PUTIN didn't order Navalneys dearh". 😂😂😂😂😂. Not me guv.

So, this was an interesting discussion, but I thought there were doubts about Putin's direct involvement months ago? Budanov, head of Ukrainian intelligence, even released a statement that their sources indicated that Navalny died of natural causes, likely heart failure caused by his long-term mistreatment within the Russian prison system. His health was suffering terribly. Of course, Putin was directly responsible for Navalny's declining health, so take that how you will.

So this leak came from putin?

Great interview, get Dan Lomas back again really soon!!!

Well that really clears things up

❤Ukrainians ❤

Just clicked on this video to leave a comment. I don't believe this for a minute.

Ha Ha, yer right, I just looked out the window and saw a pig flying by.

Thanks for sharing

As an American who worked in US Intelligence Services (won't name which) this was a quite brilliant interview regarding Intel and how it's used. I WILL say that in my experience when the President receives the morning PDB, 60% or higher commonly derives from classified internal information that's been breached, and is not open source. However, open source has many definitions, just as a confidential source. It becomes a grey area and Intelligence Services live in the grey area whilst picking and choosing Intel from both ends, open source and surreptitiously obtained.

who gave the order for him to be poisoned ??

@FarterBoom

14 күн бұрын

Novichuk Novichuksky

Of course it was. Explained on another channel.

I don’t believe words. Proof only 😁👍

Totally agree with the comment below. Stop causing this disaster, misery, terror, your criminal activity. How can you believe a word this consistant liar expounds.

Even if he didn't specifically order it , he still wanted him arrested and put out of the way for good whatever that took. No difference.

"Heavily caveated" means gossip grade info to me.

Ya sure. Don't believe it for a second.

it is completely irrelevant, he put Navalny into prison and tortured him in the first place

Just stop it silly. Why was he put in that prison to begin with?

I call BS. This “leak” was supposed to leak.

If Navalny had been a valuable prisoner-exchange resource for the Kremlin, why did they send him to a notoriously awful prison? As a prized asset, why wasn't he maintained in good health? (Slava Ukraine!) By the way, where's Gerasimov ?

this is pure incompetence trying to exonerate a criminal aided by the propaganda of useful derelicts.

Who will free me from this turbulent priest?

Yea, sounds like a lie from Putin to cover up for his past mistakes.

I feel like this is likely counter-intelligence. I wouldn't jump to believing this at face value.

Even if Putin didn't order Navalny's demise, the irony is that the act will ultimately lead to Putin's demise.

Mr Navalny could have been expelled with ceremony from Russia.

Sowhere does the buck stop in the kremlin. This conversation could have been cut down to a couple of seconds. It's chaos in the kremlin.

No ones acts without Putins say so

There are some heavy duty mental gymnastics going on here to paint Putin as incompetent...Putin didn't know/want Navalny killed but Russian leaders were surprised by the strength of western reaction to his killing hence their miscalculation..isn't it more logical that Putin knew what western reaction would be a hence did not want the killing of any dissident...or he did want him killed and miscalculated the western reaction ..it can't be both...while I am not of supporter of any of the parties involved, Putin seems to me be be far more astute than any of his oppents in the US, Europe or the Ukraine.

@daydays12

16 күн бұрын

Agreed.

@icu17siberia

16 күн бұрын

He recruited Sweden and Finland into NATO, and got Europe to rearm. His Rostec profit share increases, and he’s killing the Russian auto industry….yes…pretty astute

@fnmkd3142

16 күн бұрын

No need to paint putin as incompetent, russia is literally falling apart.

The nation where they simply make up an organisation for a BBC interview

_Quelle surprise!_ I mean, who knew?? 😂

He may not have ordered his death, but having Navalny in captivity and no doubt dealt with harshly, hastened his death.

Yes he did

The Times Radio interviewer is doing a parody of a Times Radio interviewer? If that's the case... funny!

And talk talk talk🤮

Deputy Defence Minister for one …now arrested

We will never forgot Navalny. Maybe one day Putler are in the same prison.

Obviously this is nothing that would be dscussed anywhere in the open or in any office. Acting innocent is the easiest thing to do for a good liar.

Secret sauces did he say?

Is this guest feeling well....looking at his eyes ..

It was quite obvious, that it was rather a result of typycal russian prison mistreatment than something directed from above.

This is padded 'content' speculative narrative without facts, maximun respect to a brave voice whose memory should be better served.

Whether he ordered it or not , keeping Navalny alive was Putin's responsibility. Navalny's death is entirely Putin's fault. Others may simply have done what they believed Putin wanted. It really doesn't matter. In such a case it only means Putin did not make explicitly clear that Navalny must be kept alive and well.

So he didn't do it But twist it enough and - wala - he did it

Headline: *certain* Content: "Heavily caveated, not confirmed, from a discord leak of someone's boasts, USA suggestion maybe" - that's some quality journalism there 🙌😂

That's total bs dude

He just placed a known compulsive, risable , fiery, and violent guard in his everyday life where-about and waited. Nipping some caviar with his crownies. Laughing inside, waiting 4 the plan to stick to the surface..

If that’s true .. then my name is Elvis Presley and I have a planet to sell ya’ll.

So what are we to believe that puttin is a good guy now

@janmortimer1758

16 күн бұрын

Not!

@user-np8yn6yz8k

16 күн бұрын

Wow, where did you get that?

Did the intelligence report provide toxicology records 🤔 Or carry out any experiments on the long term effects of novichok poisoning 🤔🤔

Even if he didnt expressly order it. If not for his imprisonment and previous poisoning, its hard to imagine he'd be dead right now. Either way Putin is ultimately to blame. His death is explained by incompetence then.

Censoring comments will not help spread propaganda - you have to keep the balance.

So, guessing about guessing... nothing solid...

Politic

Ohhhh come on. Navalny was beeing kept in a horrible place in bad conditions. He was young and died because of the king putin.

In other words, .... it's a wild guess.

Absolute nonsense. Shows the intelligent source is very poor.

Idk this reeks of controlled disinfo

I wouldn't trust that lisp. Looks like he has hours left to go for some reason

Will the truth be sung as loud as the Lies of this channel?

Admirals of Obviousness

oh dear, oh dear ‘tHE tiMEs’ ! the NAFO fanbots DO NOT appreciate this hot take ! next you’ll be suggesting that it was the CIA terminating a dodgy investment. did GCHQ definitely sign off on this one ? you’ve right royally ruffled some heavily vested reality tunnels here. 😂

What’s with the novochock makeup?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

This guy is a liar

Just like Trump did not get help from the Kremlin During the 2016 election. Please, a wink, and a knod is the same as doing it himself at those levels.

I suppose that makes him a better guy😇WEST still listening to Russian propaganda 🤯😡

B.S.

clumsy..

His employers CIA killed him. Nalvalny was not important in Russia. Lom 😂😂😂

@boink800

16 күн бұрын

Please give us some proof of your CIA conspiracy theory.

@janmortimer1758

16 күн бұрын

Absolutely true.He wasn’t a threat to the election.Only 2% of the polls.Communist party was the biggest threat 20%.Huge distraction for us and eu at the time.Security council meeting in Germany and gen in g*za.

Chill on the lips smacking, hard to listen to with headphones because of it.

BS. He definitely wanted him gone. The US was trying to get him out w Evan G. & Paul Whelan. I hope Germany dsnt let the russian out in their country. We let the lord of war out for Brittney Griner. We let out major criminals for our innocent citizens. It's f'ed up but I understand. F Russia

So the news are not news at all and this clip as with most clips from times radio are just one very long blah-blah-blah

Boycott Putin, stop his over use of power.

@user-np8yn6yz8k

16 күн бұрын

Boycott the USA, stop their over use of power.

Most Putins political threats never get to leave long, Putin had a soft spot on Navalny, maybe he saw him as a successor.

Wait a minute, all the Ukraine bots were wetting themselves saying Putin had him killed. Now it turns out he had nothing to do with it😅😅😅😅

@karylhogan5758

16 күн бұрын

You assume we believe this🧐

@mickser101

16 күн бұрын

@@karylhogan5758 1 week after he died Budanov of GUR said he died of natural causes now US Intelligence say Putin had nothing to do with it. Wake up pal

@karylhogan5758

16 күн бұрын

@@TheChessTheoretician Putin is the enemy… 🧐🇮🇪

@icu17siberia

16 күн бұрын

So you’ve come around to believe The Tmes reporting now. That’s progress.

@karylhogan5758

16 күн бұрын

@@icu17siberia the times is not the only news source