Large Appliances tested in the video: - Armstrong Air 3.5T A/C - 90 LRA - GE Profile Performance Wizard Dryer - Frigidaire Stove/Oven Links to the parts & pieces in the video (affiliate links) ------------------------------------ Victron 48V MultiPlus-II 5kVA 120V Inverter www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-48v-multiplus-2-5kva-120v-inverter-70a-charger/?ref=AzzpK9Fl 10kVA 120/240v Base MultiPlus-II System www.currentconnected.com/product/10kva-120-240v-multiplus-2-5kva/?ref=AzzpK9Fl Victron Cerbo GX www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-cerbo-gx-system-controller/?ref=AzzpK9Fl Victron GX Touch 7" Display www.currentconnected.com/product/gx-touch-display-cerbo-gx/?ref=AzzpK9Fl

@aaron840

9 ай бұрын

you should add that soft starter to your ac unit. It will lower the start up amperage ALOT from the ac unit and should prevent the lights from freaking out.

Wow! What great units Victron made, I want this system. It's great to see the Father/Son combo video. You are a good Dad Adam.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! He really enjoys helping out.

Really enjoyed seeing the father/son time and him helping you. Reminded me of my time with my dad (he passed quite a few years ago). Great job!

@AdamDeLay07

Ай бұрын

Thanks! He loves when he can come and help out!

What a great video, very detailed tests, makes me feel even better with my decision to go victron.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! I don't think you'll be disappointed!

A big yep to the multimeter beeps. It always gets me too.

These are impressive units. The LF makes the difference with inductive loads like your air conditioner. That was cool

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

Yes they are! Thanks!

Please look up the left hand rule for NFPA 70E when it comes to opening or closing breakers. I know it’s not common knowledge, but it will help keep you and yours safe. Thank you for taking the time to create videos for us to watch.

Awesome video. Amazing how quiet the inverters are with those loads. I know you only enable AC in on certain occasions but wonder if the power assist feature of MPII could make the impact of starting that AirCon less without a soft start.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Power Assist is where the battery power is added to assist Grid power. Unfortunately, not the other way around. It's more designed for RVs running on smaller generators that cannot support the full load. Battery power will be added to the "grid" power to supplement. I do have plans on getting a soft-start. I just wanted to wait and run the test without it to see if it would work.

@cgutowski471

9 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 Ahhh. You’re right, I had it backwards. Keep the content coming, it’s great!

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

@@cgutowski471 No worries. Thanks!

Thank you Adam for the load test. After reviewing Gavin’s, Will’s and EG4’s load test of the EG4 18k and your Victron test, I have come to this conclusion. 1) Connections: The EG4 has all of the switches and breakers built in, The Victron is extra. 2) Telemetry: EG4 WiFi included, Ethernet adapter or LTE 4G dongle extra $199, Victron Cerbo GX very expensive extra $381. 3) Shunt: EG4 does not need one, Victron needs one at extra cost. 4) Bus bar: EG4 default not needed but depends on batteries used. Victron needs their own, expensive. 4) Load balancing: EG4 is up to 8kW constant one leg, Victron trips at 6kW. 5) Surge: EG4 is 14kW for 10 minutes and 16kW for 5 minutes, Victron not even close. 6) Self consumption: EG4 is 70 watts, Victron is 30 watts for two inverters. 7) PV inputs: EG4 built in 4 inputs up to 600 volts each and 21kW total, Victron separate unit(s) 2 or 4 inputs, up to 450 volts each input at 4kW for a total of 8kW or 16kW 8) Software: EG4 covers everything in one unit, Victron is all over the place with different ways to read what is going on. I could compared more but I think I have seen enough to know which product line I am going with.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

I've heard a lot of good things about the 18kPV. Good luck with your solar project! Let me know how things go!

Current Connected, Adam needs some 48V SOK server rack batteries! :p

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

haha...yeah I need to look into more batteries. Then I'll have to get more panels to charge the batteries. Such a vicious cycle...😁

I'm surprised that it struggled with the AC but the fact it ran at all of course is the point. I would never bother trying that on the HF 6500EX. I've got to figure out the same thing. I haven't moved everything to solar yet but I've got clamp meters on the grid input so I can start figuring out the things I haven't moved over yet. Looks like the central AC uses 2800w, so once I get a soft-start on that I can move it to solar. Oven uses 3600W, but I didn't think to test the broil. The highest I have seen coming from the grid so far is 10kW total. But first I need to figure out why one of my circuits on solar doesn't work.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend testing the A/C on the 6500 without a soft start. It makes funny noises....😁 I never use the broil feature on the stove so it completely slipped my mind. I could be wrong, but I believe it turns on the heating element on the top and the bottom of the stove at the same time. During my test with just "bake" turned on, it seemed to handle that fine. One thing to keep in mind about the stove/oven is that it doesn't stay on all the time. Once it reaches its set temperature, it will cycle on and off to maintain that temp. So while the test shows a lot of power being used, it's not gonna be constant. One of your circuits doesn't work?

Very nice congratulations 🎊 i loaded my two 8 kw inverters to 16.6kw 2*1 ton ac+2*1.5 ton ac +1 2ton ac with all lights 2 vaccum cleaners and 1 hair dryier plus 2 induction stoves.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

Awesome! It's a great feeling when you can push your inverters and they over-perform!

@HybridShedIraq

9 ай бұрын

@w8dev I'm sure you have propane or LPG line to the house. why are you using an electric stove? it takes so much power 🔋 🤔.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

@@HybridShedIraq We have propane where I live, and it's not cheap.

@HybridShedIraq

9 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 I buy 35lb cylinder for 3.5$ and it last at least one month.

The install looks really nice but if you are going to only feed loads at the output side of the inverters, you should look at adding an Autotransformer to the outputs of the two inverters so that L1 and L2 will be balanced regardless of loads.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. My loads are typically balanced. I just wanted to test how the inverters would handle the imbalance. I'll be testing ESS at some point to try to feed some of the other loads in my house.

@PanelsUpSolar

9 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 ESS will certainly add to the capabilities. Hope you are ready to add more solar panels because you are going to quickly learn you will be able to stop the meter. When matched with a bank that could sustain your loads for a day or two, you could easily reduce your power bill to nothing but service charges and taxes.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

@@PanelsUpSolar Oh yeah. I know I'm gonna have to expand both my array and battery bank. Just have to save up my pennies to do so.

it does everything it's suppose to good deal

It would be great if you could go over the ESS (feeding energy back into the grid) and check it out. I didn't know MultiPlus-II can do that. Isn't that same as the net-metering? Do you happen to have a bi-directional electric meter, so you can see the amount of power going back to the grid? PS. I though you could operate the MultiPlus-II so it would be connected to the grid and function as a helper, when your solar isn't enough to handle all the loads but I didn't know it can also feed back power (e.g., excess solar) to the grid.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

The MultiPlus is a hybrid inverter that can back feed to the grid. While I will test the ESS features, I won't be back-feeding to the grid as I don't have any net metering agreement. Plus I probably wouldn't get one since the UL listing on the MultiPlus is still pending.

When my system is powering my house and my dryer is running and my AC I've seen my smart shunt read ~9700 watts. Would this system be able to handle something like that? It would be neat if the inverters could max themselves out and then pull any excess from grid power to prevent overload.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

If it could run all that it would be awful close. Then you really wouldn’t have any extra capacity though for anything else that might get turned on. While it can’t pull excess from the grid, it does have the ability to switch to the grid for a period of time once your inverter output has reached a threshold. It will maintain a grid connection until the “release” threshold is met.

Hey so from the video, I wasn't entirely clear on your setup. Is this two Multiplus 2s, both 5kVA, with one connected to the other in Power Assist? It would be helpful to hear more about this from you in the video. For instance when you used fired up the AC, how much did the system provide from each inverter at spike time? Could a single 5kVA MP2 handle the startup? That would be interesting for all those folks who are looking at getting just one MP2 to begin with... If you're reading this and can recall any of the answers to these questions, I'd love to know!

@AdamDeLay07

26 күн бұрын

I have 2 MP2 5kVa inverters setup in a split phase configuration. So each inverter would handle 120v of a 240v configuration. Since the AC is 240v, each inverter would equally provide half the power required to run. A single 120v MP2 5kVa would not be able to run the AC.

@malk6277

26 күн бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 Aha! Thanks, that helps alot. I live in Europe currently, and I wonder if their 230V version of the MP2 would be able to handle it. My guess is yes, without too much else running (maybe just lights, and normal computer stuff). I'm trying to decide whether to go with the 5kVA or the 8kVA... hoping to be able to start out with the 5kVA and then get a second one and use it in parallel to increase capacity, when funds are more abundant. Anyway, no need to run the AC off of it all the time, as we do have the grid. Thanks again!

@AdamDeLay07

26 күн бұрын

@@malk6277 No worries. Glad to be able to help! I've not looked but I believe there are specific 230v inverters. You would just want to look at the spec sheets to confirm.

So im going to be using the victron multiplus 3000va. Two in split phase. And going to be inputting grid power. For power assist. Do you have grid input? On your inverters?

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

Yes I do have grid input. From my understanding, "power assist" is used when you need additional power over and above what can be provided from the AC In connection. It then takes that additional power from the battery.

@carlosreyes6448

9 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 yes correct, so if you're load is above. The rated capacity. Of the inverters. It will pull up to 50amps. For the 3000va. And I believe up to 100amps. For the 5000va. That's truly amazing. But what can I say. It's victron.

Cook somthing while your testing..yea..steak and scallops. That would be fun..

What a difference a tier 1 inverter makes..am I right?

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

Makes a huge difference!

What size screen, are you using?

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

The 7". I believe they call it the "Victron GX Touch 70"

@carlosreyes6448

9 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 so are you feeding solar, into a subpanel? And what size array, are you using. I'm building at 10.2kw ground mount.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

@@carlosreyes6448 I have solar coming into a Victron 450/100. I have several arrays totaling 6.2kw.

@carlosreyes6448

9 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 okay nice, yeah I'm going to have to go with. The 450/200. It's expensive, but with a 10.2kw that's what, I'll be needing. Oh one more question is the password for victron 000000. I have a small victron charge controller and that's. What I use. I'm not sure if it's the same for the multiplus.

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

@@carlosreyes6448 it’ll be worth it. Being able to break up 4 different arrays into a single unit should help maximize potential, especially if you have to deal with any shading at all. You must be talking about the BT pin. There’s no BT on the multiplus. You can either use a cerbo (or raspberry pi) or you can pick up a Mk3-to-usb. www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-cerbo-gx-system-controller/?ref=AzzpK9Fl www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-interface-mk3-usb-configuration-tool/?ref=AzzpK9Fl Personally I would recommend the Cerbo. You can do much more with it than you can with the USB interface.

Could your wife NOT run the blender while you're doing these crucial tests? Sheesh. Doesn't she know this is prime time?

@AdamDeLay07

26 күн бұрын

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its only 4 KVA for an 5KW MP 2 not more , than Overload Alarm!!

@AdamDeLay07

7 ай бұрын

It’s a 5kva inverter.

You need to update your Intro video now you are victtron only system

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

Even my son asks me if I updated the intro...😁

@jimhanty8149

9 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07yea.. yer son is right….it’s like a having a Porsche but leaving the Pontiac in the front spot… 😂😂

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

@@jimhanty8149 🤣🤣🤣

Pretty good video, but what I got out of it is this - Ian is way cooler than you are. Just sayin ... 🙂

@AdamDeLay07

9 ай бұрын

Thanks. I told Ian that. His response was “he’s got sense…” 🤣🤣🤣