Links to the parts & pieces in the video (affiliate links) ------------------------------------ Victron 48V MultiPlus-II 5kVA 120V Inverter www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-48v-multiplus-2-5kva-120v-inverter-70a-charger/?ref=AzzpK9Fl 10kVA 120/240v Base MultiPlus-II System www.currentconnected.com/product/10kva-120-240v-multiplus-2-5kva/?ref=AzzpK9Fl Victron Cerbo GX www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-cerbo-gx-system-controller/?ref=AzzpK9Fl Victron GX Touch 7" Display www.currentconnected.com/product/gx-touch-display-cerbo-gx/?ref=AzzpK9Fl For more information, please check out my website with links to all the components, materials and products I have used in developing my off-grid solar system: going-off-grid.com Supporting the Channel -------------------------------------------------- The 'Buy me a Coffee' - link is here (on the bottom, right corner of the website): going-off-grid.com You can also click on the "Thanks" button under the video to support the channel. Thank you for your support!

These Victron's we own, well they are magical, that's tje best way I can describe them, never been happier with a purchase.

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Definitely!

The system you have there always amazes me. Rock solid! Thank you for the videos. You're the best 😊

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Interesting as usual. Thanks.

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Jeff!

This was cool. I prefer real world tests like this. We actually do this on a daily basis. Dry clothes and cook. And so do many others. So it gives people an idea of what the system can do in a real world setting.

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Kinda what I was thinking. While not really something I would recommend to do constantly with these inverters, it’s still possible.

Another great Video. Filled the batteries today with a good solar day here in Michigan.

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Thanks. You’re lucky! I didn’t even make it up to 60%, but my wife was processing chickens all day, so I imagine she used a bit of power doing that.

Living in Florida the AC is my biggest load Al the way until mid to late November! Our utility company has a 25 dollar minimum usage charge so I keep my stove and dryer on grid for the 25 Minimum charge because there not used very frequently and pull huge power but only for a Short period that way my AC can stay running on solar without my stove tripping the 6548’s thanks for the test always great to see you helping us new folks out!!

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad to be able to help!

1 gallon of propane equals 27 kilowatts of energy and is priced in Michigan at $2.27 per gallon as of 09-2023. I&M electric is $0.174 per kilowatt. So 27Kw x 0.174 = $4.70 - $2.27 = $2.43 savings. An electric dryer runs for about 1 hour per load, however propane runs about 20 minutes. It does not matter how you use the kilowatts, whether it is a Clothes Dryer, Water Heater, or Stove/Oven, Propane or Natural gas is less expensive. Eliminate 220v split phase by converting heavy loads. Our property runs on DC for lights, fans, sound, computers, Server, water pumps (SeaFlo), modem and router. We remove any AC to DC power brick and use DC/DC buck converters as needed. We use propane for central heating (12VDC), oven/stove, hot water on demand (12VDC), clothes dryer (120VAC). AC runs our kitchen appliances, Freezer, TV’s, Induction cook top's, 120 volt well which we converting over to DC. (An electric dryer can be used on sunny days as dump load). We have done all this still tied to the grid. We are upgrading from 12volt to LiFePo4 48 volt. We are shopping to replace our Xantrex SW3012. We use filtered Waste Veggie-Oil in our 5kw Diesel generator when the grid is down.

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

That’s awesome! Lots of work but definitely worth it in the end! One thing that people might not like about LP or NG is that you’re still being reliant on an outside source though. If you have enough solar and battery, you can be 100% self reliant for power.

@stevenfrazier8939

8 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 Living in Michigan requires the grid or a generator to supplement our life style in the winter. We have chosen to pay the propane company instead of the grid for heavy loads. Remember the math, a $2.43 savings for every 27 kilowatts when propane is used instead of the grid. We use a 3200 RPM Ninja Spin Dryer (120AC inverter) drys clothes to 90% in 3 minutes by extract water from the clothes coming out of the Clothes Washer (500 watts @120AC inverter). It extracts so much water, we can use a clothes-line or use a Propane Clothes Dryer (120AC inverter) for a fraction of the time. We cook with electric using a counter top oven and induction cook-tops (120AC Inverters) with Propane stove/oven for backup. Making on demand hot water with propane always save energy and money. We do not have line imbalances because it is all 120AC. The last seminar I taught had 13 couples learn how to harden and secure their water systems from grid failure. We also covered converting all of their heavy electric loads over to propane so they would have them when the grid goes down. Everyone there only had generators So they needed to reduce their critical loads. One couple was spending $480/month, the savings are impressive. Generators can handle multiple critical loads easier when they are 120AC. Now let’s talk about the elephant in the room, “SMART METERS”. They are spying on us all the time and are able to turn off the grid connection at will. Propane has no meter. So, no meter and is 50% cheaper to operate, that is a win in my book. Plus our waste Veggie-Oil powered Diesel generator is already cheaper to run then the grid, so, adding an EG4 Chargeverter will be a game changer when we switch from a 12 to 48 volt nominal battery bank. I have been asking you about the Victron equipment because we are starting over at a new off-grid property soon.

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

@@stevenfrazier8939 thanks for sharing Steven! I’m actually looking forward to hearing how your 18kPV install goes at your new property!

A good load test would be to charge an ev its a constant load that you can adjust while charging

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Yes it would, if I had an EV to test with.

Can you do a test to show the grid kicking in to supplement the inverters?

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Actually I think the next video on my list is gonna be how to ignore the grid connection or switch over to it when you need it.

Love the shirt ;)

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Haha! Yeah if you haven’t noticed by now, I like t-shirts with sarcastic sayings on them…my family had figured that out too so they pick them up for me when they find funny ones.

Induction cooktops and heat pump dryers are way more friendly to inverters. At some point it's cheaper to replace a power hungry appliance than opt for a bigger inverter and battery.

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Agreed! We replaced one of our old freezers a year ago. Went from 250w continuous down to 30w occasionally.

Can't help but notice during the test that PV input was less that a Kw and that battery draining fast, was it a bad solar day when you were doing the test ? or do you need to augment solar and battery to maintain off grid ability ?

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

It was a horribly cloudy day. It’s been that way for weeks now. Clouds and rain. Very depressing…

Do you think you could start the AC with the dryer going?

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Hmm, I’m not sure if it would or not. Maybe I’ll take a look this week…just for kicks…

It was a challenge, but I managed to freeze the video at the point where you inserted the picture of you and your wife. at 6:10

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

Haha. I had to put my tablet in DND mode because I kept getting emails.

@rv10flyer84

8 ай бұрын

He'll be at 100K subscribers real soon if he keeps that up.

@retrozmachine1189

8 ай бұрын

If you have access to a keyboard you can frame step using , and . keys

It's a good test but not realistic, it's no great hardship to stagger using some none time critical high loads. You don't dry clothes , or cook 24/7/365, each is really only used a few hours a week, and I have never used all rings and ovens at the same time in my life. Speccing a system to allow all loads simultaneously run at all time is just a waste of money.

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

It might not be realistic for some that have had solar for a long time and are used to juggling loads. For people that have never even had to think about what loads are running together, it’s very realistic. Granted, it’s not something I would do with this system on any regular basis, I was just curious if it would work because it would let me run the system near the top of its capacity for a longer time than my previous test. I completely agree you should size a system to run all loads. There’s not point because it will never happen.

@jimhanty8149

8 ай бұрын

Your doing a great job with a great system…I have done this type test to push things with simalar but smaller gear this month…I found a way to get more power out safely…and for all day.. …… the one thing I’m not seeing here that is very important is a real time measurement of heat on the batts - SCC - multiplus..all 3 .. the batts( battle borne 24v ) and inverter are rated for full power output at 77F ( STC) ,the victron150/100 SCC is rated at 90F with full power output... Vic says they do that on purpose as it is more of a continuous full duty device during the day than the inverter.. If you put them in a room that is 75 F they will all heat up rapidly under a decently heavy load…( not nessaceraly max) the SCC will run up about 20 degrees but it’s not a real issue as it’s rated for higher …The batts will run up about 10 to 15 degrees but they are ok as batts put out more power slightly warmer. what happens is the multi will run up as much as 40 or more degrees ( yes everything is wired solid - 4/0 cable- all connections and wire is not even warm.) if one watch’s the watts as the inverter temp rises and takes lazar probes of the temp, the watts used goes higher as the efficiency gets lower . Victron has a chart showing how the multi puts out less and less as the heat rises… SO.. I tried a trick I took off the cover of the multi.. huge amount of heat escapes when you do…it’s amazing how it just plummets …I put a small fan on the bottom to greatly increase air flow out the front … the temp dropped about 30 degrees or more and efficiency went back up about 20% to 30 % as I kept increasing airflow. I put another fan on the SCC and the temp sits about 80F …I then ventilated the battery’s and they dropped back a good bit while putting out 150 amps at 24 v…all afternoon. As I posted a screen shot on an online forum you may have seen , instead of sitting there very warm at at 3000 watts load it was chugging right along all day at 3300 to 3600 watts simply by keeping the temp Down below STC…ever wonder why a computer room is jus plain cold..? It’s the 30th of sept and I’m waiting for cold weather to see how much of a push much colder temps will give the system… I would like to try about 40 F ambient and measure effects on the 3 devices.. and output efficiency Whatever your producing at normal , will increase a lot if that equipment is kept below it STC rating… Lastly I put a small A/ C unit in the area and brought the temp down to about 65… now all devices stay cool at max and I haven’t tripped any breakers , any overload shut downs … nothing… the unit draws 100 watts per hour as it cycles of and on alot in a small area but I’m getting back much more than what it draws keeping the equipment really cool. It runs about 15 min per hour or less. I will keep trying Untill I find it’s limits and then back way off…then I’m buying another multi and doubling the panels… But I just wanna know what it can pushed to do… Best of luck with your stuff. Jim.

@AdamDeLay07

8 ай бұрын

@@jimhanty8149 very nice Jim! Yes temperature does play a big factor in output capability. That’s one reason why I have my equipment in my basement utility room which stays at or below 70 degrees during the summer. The only reason it might get any warmer is if the dehumidifier has to run a lot. I am glad though that Victron is a little more transparent in how their equipment operates than other companies. If you look at the manuals at all, you should see just about all the information you’ll need to know.

@jimhanty8149

8 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 haaa…Victron is on a whole other level when it comes to transparency , instructions,explanations and being forward thinking about its products use… I have 9 pieces of Victron product , some in use and some as spares some as occasional use devices …I have not had an issue with any… that’s hard to find these days… Chow, J.

@retrozmachine1189

8 ай бұрын

@@AdamDeLay07 Goes much deeper too if you want. Victron provides a wealth of information on the capabilities of their equipment to the point where you can design your own stuff to interact with it. I think the only thing they won't reveal is how they keep their inverters synced for parallel or 2/3 phase operation since having the public tinkering with that wouldn't be a good idea. From solar chargers to Cerbo, all of it is fully documented. Want to dynamically control the amp limit on a solar charger? No problem. Want to write your own plugin / device handler for Cerbo? No problem.