Always makes me happy when I see a notification saying you've got a new video up. I really appreciate you showing this as I hadn't heard of Purelymail. I'm considering setting up a new IT business and will very likely set my email up with them.

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

Thanks, and glad you enjoy the content!

Ive been selfhosting my mail servers for 10+ years now.😊

@davidlu7627

Ай бұрын

how do you avoid blocked by gmail?

@Tntdruid

Ай бұрын

@@davidlu7627 got my own ipv4 range.

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

It's totally possible, I think the trick is getting an ipv4 that spammers haven't already ruined.

@davidlu7627

Ай бұрын

Gmail request a few setting. mx, txt, cname, etc. ​@@AwesomeOpenSource

@YourComputer

Ай бұрын

@@davidlu7627 Wouldn't that require a valid certificate for the server?

Great video again Brian, Even though I am not going to be implementing this at the moment, it is awesome to know about and would definitely use it if I was to change my email hosting provider. Also something great to offer clients if they are just looking for setting up email and aren't part of the Google or MS ecosystems.

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

I agree, it's a great opportunity all the way around.

So its like an equivalent of Google Workspaces which we re already running. What you didn t mention is the amount of free space each user has. So questions are: -user's space -Can a user has alias to those emails? -Can you forward emails of an existent user to another one? -Does this service provide a cloud drive where users can share files? -Does it have a notificatin center where you can monitor user's activities? PS I have an idea for a video of yours. Setup 2-3 Zentyal servers, one for DHCP/DNS/AD, another one for File and (mandatory) Printer sharing.All clients running Windows. The third one probably isnt possible yet since I cant think of a way a linux server running windows instances, so act like an RDP server.

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

This is email only (purely mail), so no shared cloud space. It's really just for email. The creator doesn't specify a quota, but he has some verbiage around excessive usage making professional pricing more valuable. As to the exact amounts I don't know. I do remember forwarding to other emails being in there, but not sure on aliases.

You can self host from home and use ddclient and you can get your ip removed from the block list the hard part is getting rDNS setup which you can kind of fudge with PTR dns records

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

Interesting. Never heard of the methods you give, but good to know.

Watching now, should this be considered part 3 of the MSP series you're doing?

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

It is indeed part 3. Part 4 is in the works.

@user-mg1ey8nn8j

Ай бұрын

@@AwesomeOpenSource Love it! I actually never thought about mail port blocks with regard to VPS, definitely a good call out

Does this mean i need to add the email twice? once in purely mail and also in plesk? as no new email address is reflected in plesk which is where i get the info to add to my mail client and for forms etc.

@AwesomeOpenSource

20 күн бұрын

I'm not familiar with pleask, so can't say, but only 1 system should be managing your email accounts.

Personally, my only concern with 3rd party email is privacy, while I'm not doing anything that will make the police come to my door... I think its well known how gmail reads the emails and i think outlook even checked an encrypted zip file from a security researcher? Will definitely give this a try anyway, tried hosting my own and it worked but feels like security will be a pain in the ass

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

I agree, sadly email is one of the most commonly used communications we still have today.

What is a good solution for backing up multiple huge email inboxes?

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

Where are the email inboxes? Generally the service will have a backup of some sort. If self hosted, you need to know what you're using for the various parts, then we can figure out how to back them up.

Hi Brian dharashan here from South Africa. Been a while great video as per normal. Can you set this up with a mail client like thunderbird or outlook

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

You sure can.

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *📧 Setting up email communication for business* - Setting up email communication for business on VPS providers like Linode, Digital Ocean, etc. 02:06 *📬 Exploring the Purely Mail service* - Purely Mail is a promising email service still in beta, offering solid email services at a competitive price. 03:33 *💸 Affordable pricing and payment options* - Comparing the yearly costs of various email services like Gmail, Zoho, and others. - Purely Mail offers a cost-effective solution at $10 per user per year. 05:38 *🔒 Domain setup and security measures* - Detailed guide on setting up a domain with Purely Mail, including MX records, SPF records, DKIM records, and DMARC records. - Ensuring email security by following recommended security protocols such as setting up two-factor authentication and backup codes. 19:27 *💼 Managing users and account settings* - Easily create new users for different domains within Purely Mail. - Set up strong passwords and application passwords for added security. - Utilize application features like two-factor authentication and password reset methods. 21:18 *📧 Exploring the Purely Mail webmail interface* - Accessing and navigating the webmail interface provided by Purely Mail. - Testing email functionality by sending and receiving emails. - Confirming successful email delivery and replies. 22:50 *💳 Billing and account management* - Overview of the billing section within Purely Mail. - Information on credit card updates, billing modes, and yearly automatic charge limits. - Monitoring usage reports, storage allocations, and email statistics. Made with HARPA AI

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

Thanks. I have timestamps in the video to help, ut not quite so detailed.

Are you thinking about getting a affiliate link to this service? Interested in using this solution for a couple domains and might as well help out if possible.

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

No, I'm really not, Just wanted to use it, and wanted to share with you all. It seems like a good option for starting out on a business, and a really great cost.

@joaovaz1289

Ай бұрын

@@AwesomeOpenSource Thank you for the reply and for sharing the knowledge. :)

Mail is one of the few things I don’t self-host. Most people like MS Outlook and Exchange sever features which is very hard to replicate without Exchange and self-hosting / licensing Exchange is a security and cost nightmare. I just stick with O365 for these needs. It’s not free, but it’s not terrible either in terms of cost.

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

Totally understand. There are some great services out there for this type of thing. I'd say, maybe look at the NextCloud hosted offering if you ever want to ditch the rest of MS, and then pair that with a service like ProtonMail.

What are the challenges you have had with Gmail and SMTP? It's what I'm currently using and haven't had any challenges in my small deployment. Curious what I may run into as I expand

@sonictech1000

Ай бұрын

They keep changing the authentication requirements. At this point I'm completely unable to get Ricoh or Sharp MFP devices to send.

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

I have 100s of comments from over the ysears of folks trying to use GMail for SMTP, and they can't get it to work. The application password wouldn't work, or their 2FA blocked it, and on and on. It's just a headache I want to avoid, and allow others to avoid if possible. Anyone is free to use what they want, of course. If it works for you, then use it. Nothing wrong with that.

@NorthhtroN

Ай бұрын

@@AwesomeOpenSource appreciate the response, I have a very small set-up right now and not to many unique use cases, but as I grow I'll be on the lookout, right now it's working and I go by if it ain't brok don't fix it mentality:)

@gg-gn3re

Ай бұрын

@@AwesomeOpenSource there's a setting to "allow lesser secure login" within your google account. If that isn't checked smtp won't work for 99% of things

@manitoba-op4jx

16 күн бұрын

i have never gotten gmail smtp to work. i don't know anyone who even HAS

No-Ip and presumably others offer smtp proxy services so you can host your own incoming mail server and still have reliable outgoing service.

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

Interesting. I'll have to see if I can find more on that.

@gg-gn3re

Ай бұрын

dynamic IPs get auto blocked by many large mail servers. This is why people report having issues in the first place. Self hosting email is fine... the first step is buy a static IP

Can you make a video about how to get ana manage domains cheaply

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

When you say get and manage, can you give me more on what you're trying to do? What is "cheaply" to you? I pay around #12 US per year for a domain name, and manage it with the tools that Hover provides.

@HiltonT69

Ай бұрын

Cloudflare DNS management is free. And good.

Not interested in the service, but nice call out on self-hosted email. Do you think email might be dead?

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

I don't think email is even close to dead. I would love to see it mkae a huge leap forward, but no, it will be around for a long time yet.

I like open source but putting my trust in a one person LLC? I am not sure where the sevice is hosted neither sure what backup solutions are used (what if disaster strikes in a single datacenter, or is it his garage?). This looks very vulnerable giving the missing info. From a European standpoint the location as also encryption of the data is an extra concern. Maybe you should further look into this service, as also you could make a compare to simular services. Keep up, I do like your channel!

@AwesomeOpenSource

Ай бұрын

I'll see what I can find out.

@manitoba-op4jx

15 күн бұрын

@@AwesomeOpenSourceany updates?