TrueNAS Core vs. Scale: Which is Right for You?

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00:00 TrueNAS Scale VS TrueNAS Core 2023
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  • @loverofbigdookies
    @loverofbigdookies11 ай бұрын

    I started using truenas when scale was released. I decided to learn the platform on scale despite being advised to use core. I have struggled with numerous features due to my lack of knowledge, but overall it is working today and I think it's a gift to humankind to get software this powerful for free.

  • @rgrcoutts
    @rgrcoutts11 ай бұрын

    Started with Core about 2 years ago with a cobbled together system, added a 2nd Core system for offsite replication and upgraded the drives in the main system to proper NAS drives, upgraded both a few months ago to Scale for the apps and VM support, been an excellent and stable journey so far, definitely made easier by TLS's excellent videos guiding the way👍

  • @daspump
    @daspump11 ай бұрын

    I ran a Core system for many, many years and it was solid. Recently built a new machine for my storage needs and found that Core did not support some of the hardware so had to move to Scale. Haven't looked back. It's been solid like its Core brother, so I can recommend either solution. Appreciate the videos and thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @keithhearns3783
    @keithhearns378311 ай бұрын

    TrueNAS Core; single home user, used to clear up multiple USB drives on desk top, moved music, video, scanned documents, deprecating file cabinets, have VM Ubuntu and Docker

  • @dylantaylor490
    @dylantaylor49011 ай бұрын

    I upgraded from core to scale and I've been super happy with the additional capabilities with regards to containerized apps and virtualization

  • @Mr.Leeroy

    @Mr.Leeroy

    11 ай бұрын

    It is not an upgrade

  • @dylantaylor490

    @dylantaylor490

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Mr.Leeroy Sure feels like one, and the UI refers to it as one in CORE 12.

  • @Mr.Leeroy

    @Mr.Leeroy

    11 ай бұрын

    @@dylantaylor490 It's a sibling product, you are not expected to upgrade to it, only switch to. Updater allows to "switch update train" in order to convert your appliance into it. In reality they are both at the same version on different base OSes.

  • @brandonchappell1535

    @brandonchappell1535

    10 ай бұрын

    Considering the same, although rebuilding my plex library etc seems like a pain. i pretty much just run a linux lite VM in bhyve, plex and syncthing on my core machine (as well as general storage), just not sure what i gain by switching, can you detail any of the "additional capabilities" u mentioned?? cheers

  • @dylantaylor490

    @dylantaylor490

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@brandonchappell1535 I didn't have to rebuild my library, I just pointed plex at my old media folders and it used them

  • @bigchew3149
    @bigchew314911 ай бұрын

    I had Ran Core untill about 3-4 months ago an i did a fresh install of scale & i gota say i am liking it ..seams to be great..i have had a 10gb nic just stop working after a while for some reason but i think my old 10gb nic just needs a upgrade..lol. thinking 25gb is in my future at soon ish..ha ha ha ! Keep up the good work & thanks for sharing ! !

  • @cjchico
    @cjchico11 ай бұрын

    Core. Absolutely rock solid, no issues with speed, easy to set up and manage.

  • @devemia
    @devemia11 ай бұрын

    I initially used Scale on bare metal, but then migrated to Core in a VM on the Harvester HCI platform.

  • @lbickley
    @lbickley10 ай бұрын

    I'm still running TrueNAS Core but have been testing TrueNAS Scale for a couple of months. As Dylan Taylor mentioned in his comm ents, I am very happy with the new containerized apps in Scale. They are easier to implement and conform to other Docker/Kubernetes apps.

  • @renovxperts
    @renovxperts11 ай бұрын

    Team TrueNAS Scale. Thanks Tom for yet another great video!

  • @mitchb7183
    @mitchb718311 ай бұрын

    Came in under Core, but Scale at home all the way. Core and Ent at work. Great solution for repurpose of old poweredge servers.

  • @rolling_marbles
    @rolling_marbles11 ай бұрын

    Using scale for two reasons; KVM and Docker/Kubernetes. It’s also nice to to run into all the hardware oddities with FreeBSD when repurposing “older” equipment. As long as there is no purposeful nerfing of Scale I’m happy with it.

  • @og.grasshopper
    @og.grasshopperАй бұрын

    Using Core atm. Passing through Broadcom storage controller with 10x (22TB) spinning rust + 8x (4TB) enterprise SSD. My Core is running on a vm inside vSphere. I also have a separate K8S cluster setup independent of Core on the same vSphere server. Contemplated switching to Scale, but my core is literally just a virtualized storage appliance and I’ve stood up the benefits of what Scale has to offer as independent VM’s hosted by vSphere. TruesNAS Core has been running solid for about 18 months, when there is a drive issue it typically self heals - sometimes a nudge or two - and there is no noticeable issue. All of my pools are comprised of some combination of mirrored disks.

  • @eugeni_cat8334
    @eugeni_cat833411 ай бұрын

    I TrueNAS Core always. If you need a pure NAS with ZFS and the peace of mind of having a robust and stable system, without a doubt TrueNAS Core. If you want to work with Docker and VM you have TrueNAS Scale. In my scenario I have two servers (Main and Backup with BackBlaze B2 cloud backup integration (3-2-1)) very low power TrueNAS Core (Dell PowerEdge R210 II - 36 watts stable and sustained consumption) with Xeon E3-1220L v2 processors (TDP: 17w). For Docker and VM themes I prefer other O.S. that more transparently manage such scenarios (UnRAID and VMware ESXi respectively). Thank you very much for sharing your videos, they are very interesting and useful. Kind regards😎

  • @sagarsriva

    @sagarsriva

    11 ай бұрын

    True. I ran FreeNAS for 8 years. So robust. Lucky me, Even all 3TB *8 wd reds have none failed!. I already built my new TrueNAS scale now knowing virtualization is so much better there.

  • @ShiggitayMediaProductions
    @ShiggitayMediaProductions11 ай бұрын

    I had been running Core, but then it got annoying setting up a VPN instance in a specific jail I had setup... I looked into Scale more and when I realized it's basically Docker containers and it's super easy to set a VPN to run on container deploy, I was sold and I swapped over to Scale... (though the main reason why I left Core was because I was a dumby and I mix and matched modular power supply cables when rebuilding my server, which I primarily use for Plex, and it fried some HDDs, ruining my Raid Z1 array.. Yeah..... I decided to start fresh and go with Scale and I've not looked back).

  • @novafire99
    @novafire9911 ай бұрын

    Currently running truenas core as it meets my needs. Only have one jail running urbackup to do de-duplicated file backups from workstations/servers of only important files. I have a proxmox cluser for virtualization so it's not required or wanted on the NAS, I prefer to keep them seperate..

  • @sagarsriva
    @sagarsriva11 ай бұрын

    I am running scale on my 14TBx8 drive system RAIDZ3 ( yes paranoid).. Nice video as always.

  • @sarajakas2001

    @sarajakas2001

    11 ай бұрын

    No paranoid, i'm paranoid :) 12HDDs 4TB as 3-way mirror vdevs = 4x3HDD=10TB my standard (max 12TB) usable+1 Cache Nvme drive + for system Hdd+Sdd as Work production storage server, its really paranoid :) - for git server

  • @sagarsriva

    @sagarsriva

    11 ай бұрын

    @@sarajakas2001 lol

  • @MenkarX
    @MenkarX11 ай бұрын

    I had issues with usb 2.5G Realtek nic on Core . So, I've switched to Scale and it's working fine now. Both my boxes are Scale.

  • @T3hBeowulf
    @T3hBeowulf11 ай бұрын

    I started with TrueNAS Scale when it was released on bare metal; evaluated and tested it's functionality and generally liked it. I then committed the apparently cardinal sin of virtualizing TrueNAS Scale onto a VM on the same hardware it had previously been running bare metal and I still like it. Virtualizing it freed up some of the other hardware in that system to dedicate to a different tasks and I haven't really noticed any trouble. The controller is PCIe passthrough and it yas a dedicated chunk of RAM. The neat part for me was ZFS pools imported perfectly fine and the backup config applied to the fresh VM without issue, allowing me to just keep on going as if it was always a VM.

  • @jeremybw2180
    @jeremybw21808 ай бұрын

    I've deployed Core recently and am leaning to upgrade to scale simply due to the containerization and PLUGINS offered via charts.

  • @R.e.2405
    @R.e.240511 ай бұрын

    For me, for my readynas the question is: unraid or openmediavault... Can not run truenas of any form, due to 3 gigs of system memory, not to mention lack of brltty in scale, even though omv (open media vault) prooves that it can be done... And yes, brltty (to use a braille display during installation, and to check ip after) is critical for me, since I am completely blind...

  • @urzu181
    @urzu18111 ай бұрын

    Running 4 TrueNAS machines.. 1 at home and 3 at each branch of our company.. for home use I have Scale, but Core on the 3 machines at each branches of company.. for work related stuff I personally prefer core..

  • @NickGee93
    @NickGee9311 ай бұрын

    @Lawrence Systems hey tom can you do an in depth video possibly about how to get unifi controller working on truenas scale, i have found no real guides on it and it has been very confusing. i am able to get it deployed but then the log shows that the http request gives a 404, which when trying to go to the web ui its an error 404 page as well and i cant seem to figure out what is causing it. thank you

  • @SmalltimR
    @SmalltimR11 ай бұрын

    In the even there someone only wanted NAS (nothing else), would Core be the better option?

  • @finding.filene6509
    @finding.filene650910 ай бұрын

    IIRC, is it true only TrueNAS Core supports ACME DNS/ Authenticators?

  • @BlackBagData
    @BlackBagData11 ай бұрын

    I have 3 Core setups and love them.

  • @wpoole10
    @wpoole1011 ай бұрын

    Tom or ANYONE, how can I setup a permissions in a dataset to where I (dad) has full control and want my other users (wife and kid) to be able to read and write files if they want, but not be able to delete each others files ONLY the ones they created? I am able to have each user write files to the dataset but the user that creates the file cannot delete their own file. How do I fix this???

  • @jrbling25
    @jrbling2511 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the vid. Team Core, still seems i don't need to migrate to Scale for anything thats actually critical. Small nit picky note re: the initial comparison. in my understanding, zfs replication works to any compatible zfs pool, not exclusively core/scale systems.

  • @douglaswhitfield9111
    @douglaswhitfield911111 ай бұрын

    I'm currently using proxmox and I had an instance of truenas core running, there are some thing that don't play nice like monitoring aspects, I'm wondering if it would be worth migrating to scale just to have a Linux based nas for better compatibility

  • @antonterekhov9389

    @antonterekhov9389

    11 ай бұрын

    I did this migration, and I still do see any improvements in the monitoring

  • @eggman9713
    @eggman971311 ай бұрын

    I am right now building a new system for a NAS to replace my aging Drobo (it works, but since the company isn't around anymore, having a proprietary RAID format that I can't recover myself if other hardware dies is a bit of a nervous situation). I haven't yet decided between Core or Scale. I like the idea of Core being rock-solid BSD and just being used for storage in my case, but I am building the machine with extra horsepower to perhaps use Scale in the future for VMs and Docker. I am new to TrueNAS so I'll probably install Core on it to get started, but if my needs change in the future I'll migrate to Scale.

  • @helpmeget100subs

    @helpmeget100subs

    11 ай бұрын

    I like scale. It was easy to get started. Switching over can be a pain learning but not too problematic.

  • @mt_kegan512

    @mt_kegan512

    11 ай бұрын

    Tough call. Core is a thing a beauty when just used for storage. Scale is a tempting mistress tho. Rest assured that you can't go wrong with either.

  • @RizalBoon

    @RizalBoon

    11 ай бұрын

    I have the same situation last year. Starting out with Core, then eventually migrated to scale for easier time with PCI hardware, VMs and Apps. No regrets for me.

  • @Caddy666
    @Caddy66611 ай бұрын

    wont try scale for another few iterations yet, but it does look to be becomig what i want. core is fine for now, and cant be arsed to re-set up my nas again using scale, if its potentially less stable.

  • @antonterekhov9389
    @antonterekhov938911 ай бұрын

    Hi Tom, as usual, great video! A few notes: 1. TrueCommand doesn't have a free version. Starter's kit (subscription) is $6 per month for 30 drives. 2. Scale does support ZFS encryption, but performance is x5-8 slower than the Core version, so I'd put a few asterisks there:) Ping if you need proof of that. Honestly, I was surprised (we're talking about 160 Mb/S VS 750 Mb/s). Also, there are a lot of topics dedicated to this problem. I switched both my home servers to TrueNAS Scale recently. It's the second attempt to do so. Now Scale looks pretty good, except Encryption issue. Also, the permission model in Scale isn't very friendly. Overall, I'd recommend Core as a more stable and robust system for everyone without running VMs/Jails/Containers in the TrueNAS. Otherwise, Scale makes more sense.

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    11 ай бұрын

    I have posted in their forums about this and I have only had this issue on low end CPU's in specific read situations. Oddly it can write at full speed to an encrypted dataset but the first time read is limited to single core.

  • @antonterekhov9389

    @antonterekhov9389

    11 ай бұрын

    @@LAWRENCESYSTEMS I use AsRock Rack X570D4U + AMD Ryzen 7 5800X + 128 GB RAM. TrueNAS is virtualized w/ HBA passthrough (64 Gb RAM, 8 cores of CPU). All pools are SSD only (4x Micron 5200 Max and 4x Micron 5200 Eco). Write speed was x2-3 faster than read, but still not 100%. I saw recent topics for the same issues not on low-end CPUs. It may or may not be connected: I encrypt the whole pool, not a dataset. Anyway, it's fine for my home lab to remove encryption, so I recreated pools from scratch, and now I enjoy the full speed of SATA SSD pools:)

  • @u235sentinel
    @u235sentinel8 ай бұрын

    I'm starting with Core since this is my first use of the product. I figure once I'm ready to try out Scale I'll build out a second unit and give it a go. Stability is essential to me as I start out. Using a TerraMaster F4-223 (yes I know they come with TOS). I think I'd rather go with something more community supported to begin with.

  • @hescominsoon
    @hescominsoon11 ай бұрын

    HA for a server i ordered from ix has HA that fails and takes the entire box down with it. we have been running for two years with HA off to keep the machine up. IX has since ghosted us on support saying our network is causing the HA to fail, the box to go offline. It's unfortunate because i was a very vocal advocate for ix systems. no longer. they have worked for others...but for me my nearly 25k ha server is only able to run in single controller mode.

  • @pocketrip
    @pocketrip11 ай бұрын

    Does Scale still have the bug with performance for encrypted pools?

  • @antonterekhov9389

    @antonterekhov9389

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes, it does! Massive issues:( I got 5-8 time degradation in read speed compared to the Core.

  • @JohnPonthecuff
    @JohnPonthecuff6 ай бұрын

    OK, I've been struggling with scale. Not because of it, but because of me. I just re-installed it fresh and will use your videos for guidance. I've been out of it for more than 10 years (professionally), but what the heck....Here goes.

  • @veepee78
    @veepee788 ай бұрын

    I'd prefer scale, but I am using core at the moment. I had trouble with network when I had scale installed. Network cut off after some time of usage and that's kind of a bummer.. I was using asrock z77 extreme3 motherboard that has realtek 8111 network chip. Changed to core and I have had no issues since. I have upgraded to intel 2.5gbit lan card later, but have not changed to scale yet, being little afraid of net hassle.

  • @davidh3f
    @davidh3f11 ай бұрын

    Still run core at home. Tried scale for a short while while it was still under fast development, but needed a stable system as a home NAS. So returned to core and haven't had the chance to revisit scale. For what I need, core is more than capable and it's reliability is unparalleled. I also have Plex jail, which works fine, but just a bit behind on versions.

  • @boro057

    @boro057

    11 ай бұрын

    This is where I am too, and why I want to switch to scale. Plex is the only service I have open to the greater internet and being behind on versions is not ideal. On a similar note, I also use nextcloud (local only) and I’ve never been able to successfully update it. I always need to reinstall and reconnect my data. Hopefully the update process is more useable on linux, or docker.

  • @mt_kegan512

    @mt_kegan512

    11 ай бұрын

    Same here on the TrueNAS front. Regarding your Plex installs, I've been on xcp-ng for a couple years now and it may be easier to bite the bullet and let two servers handle your needs. Sure Scale can do it all, but it actually can't if you don't want to manage it. And that's OK. I realize cost/heat/power may be a concern, but grab a mini PC (Tom just did a review) and give it a shot. I've crammed ALL the things in EXSI before, and while rock solid... Sometimes adding another box just makes your life... well...easier.

  • @UltralifeTech
    @UltralifeTech11 ай бұрын

    Core for stability. Scale for compatibility.

  • @cranil
    @cranil11 ай бұрын

    Obviously the best way to setup up your system is to virtualize TreuNAS core in Scale.

  • @OT-tn7ci
    @OT-tn7ci11 күн бұрын

    Fuck, now that I use XCP-NG and TrueNAS, (moving away from VMW and ESOS) I am gonna be coming to this channel a lot I guess. I am still keeping my opnsense though, thank you.

  • @geoshapka
    @geoshapka11 ай бұрын

    i run TrueNAS Scale only because it is virtualized in proxmox and Scale has guest-agent built-in. Otherwise i would have Core on dedicated hardware for stability

  • @miguelromano4274
    @miguelromano427411 ай бұрын

    Hello! I would like to know if there is a problem mixing ironwolf discs with EXOS EX10 in the same pool.

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    11 ай бұрын

    It will work but a pool will be limited in performance by the slowest drives in the pool.

  • @miguelromano4274

    @miguelromano4274

    11 ай бұрын

    But can it generate a problem in my POOL/DEVS?@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS

  • @KentBunn
    @KentBunn11 ай бұрын

    I just want the best solution for long-term use, to operate solely as a NAS plat form. If I want to work the VM's and containers, I'll have a dedicated host for that.

  • @mt_kegan512

    @mt_kegan512

    11 ай бұрын

    That is the conclusion I came to when trying scale. That was well over a year ago however and I might give it another shot. I'll ALWAYS have a dedicated hypervisor for ease of use and feature set. Keep in mind I won't bet against IXststems, and 4 years from now scale will probably be at a proxmox level for virtualization LoL

  • @Felix-ve9hs
    @Felix-ve9hs11 ай бұрын

    TrueNAS CORE because I want stability over everything else. Containers are on a FreeBSD Server and VMs are on Proxmox VE.

  • @nyccontrabass3489
    @nyccontrabass34898 ай бұрын

    Would be great to have an app to take care of memory tuning in scale.

  • @computersales
    @computersales2 ай бұрын

    I might be switching from core to scale to fix some problems I'm running into. Change is hard though.

  • @Rkiver
    @Rkiver11 ай бұрын

    I moved from Core to Scale and Scale suits me much better for my usage.

  • @andibiront2316
    @andibiront23169 ай бұрын

    I run Core, and I don't see a reason to migrate to Scale. I don't use containers nor virtualization on my NAS, that runs on ESXi hosts.

  • @jeremyhenderson163
    @jeremyhenderson1635 ай бұрын

    Leaning towards Core, as I've heard that ZFS is RAM-hungry. Not sure if my understanding is accurate, but seems like I might have to replace RAM more often than Core. LOL not that I believe I will be replacing it every month or so, I'm just a "set it, and forget it." type and that seems like more worry maintenance? I have heard that ZFS is better, but is it worth it's hunger?

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    5 ай бұрын

    ZFS is not hungry for memory, it's efficient kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqRqyY9xhraWZrA.htmlsi=pCHEzQUfZoCgW1zL

  • @jeremyhenderson163

    @jeremyhenderson163

    5 ай бұрын

    Ok, I think I understand it better now? While ZFS does "occupy" as much of the RAM as possible, it's only "working" the RAM as often as data transfers are in use ( basically only updating the cache logs to reflect recent, or most, used.)? So if my pools are achieve only, and I'm not requesting the data within them, then the RAM isn't really being "worked"?

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jeremyhenderson163 pretty much

  • @jeremyhenderson163

    @jeremyhenderson163

    5 ай бұрын

    🥰 Thanks for clearing that up. I'm not sure how I missed that video though, I enjoy (and appreciate) your content and delivery.

  • @powderpuffman121
    @powderpuffman12111 ай бұрын

    Scale is perfect for a home user like myself that lives in a small apartment and doesn't have much room for a homelab. I think that's one of the best use cases for it.

  • @christopherjackson2157
    @christopherjackson215711 ай бұрын

    I gotta say my preference - after doing a lot of testing with both - is core The apps on scale are nice I guess. But why not just get a second box to run services, it's not like ur running anything heavy on a storage server anyways....

  • @christopherjackson2157

    @christopherjackson2157

    11 ай бұрын

    Tho I have and do still recommend scale for users who want services and have a strong preference for a single box for whatever reason

  • @JayantBB78
    @JayantBB7811 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot Tom. I asked for this video. You honored my request. Respect for INDIA. 🙏🏻

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    11 ай бұрын

    Hope you enjoyed it!

  • @jirehla-ab1671

    @jirehla-ab1671

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@LAWRENCESYSTEMSIs it possible to port truenas scale to rhel based distributions? Where it uses a rhel based linux instead of debian linux?

  • @jirehla-ab1671

    @jirehla-ab1671

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@LAWRENCESYSTEMSso truenas command isnt free & open source right?

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jirehla-ab1671 Anything is possible If someone or some team is willing to put the code together.

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jirehla-ab1671 Correct

  • @ziggo0
    @ziggo011 ай бұрын

    Core. I value stability and reliability before fancy features my appliance should have nothing to do with.

  • @Mikesco3
    @Mikesco311 ай бұрын

    For me the basic difference is that core might be a bit more secure and stable and may run slightly better, however pickier on type of hardware due to it being based on BSD, where scale runs on Linux so it can run on a wider variety of computers, and ZFS support is more recent to Linux so the BSD version might have an edge on stability and performance (as ZFS in BSD is built into the kernel versus being a kernel module in Linux). However the containerization in BSD is jails which hasn't been as widely adopted as docker on the Linux side, so you're going to have a larger variety of apps for scale...

  • @edwinkm2016

    @edwinkm2016

    11 ай бұрын

    Correct, but a little disclaimer. Scale has no jail support. Unfortunately missing in Tom’s list as well. With a jail you are free to install software like an interactive OS. Containers are just packaged applications. Most people just need Docker but both lhave their use cases.

  • @krismoore9223

    @krismoore9223

    10 ай бұрын

    Just two minor corrections here. SCALE is more secure and has additional hardening for security focused environments. Stability wise it is about on parity with CORE these days, more-so if you run on home-brew hardware.

  • @ericfielding668
    @ericfielding66811 ай бұрын

    Core on backup NAS - it gets an rsync backup from a Synology box each night PLUS monthly snapshots - I am not sure what I'll do if Core drops rsync

  • @Darkk6969

    @Darkk6969

    11 ай бұрын

    rsync is just a package which you can add back in yourself. It won't be available in WebGUI if they decide to remove it.

  • @sarajakas2001

    @sarajakas2001

    11 ай бұрын

    i too use Core for backup rsync, scale in production, still in migration from old servers in progress :)

  • @edwinkm2016

    @edwinkm2016

    11 ай бұрын

    Then run the Rsync in a jail I suppose.

  • @backupaddict1356
    @backupaddict135611 ай бұрын

    I would like to test scale with 3 servers for share nothing, when do see this being ready for production?

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    11 ай бұрын

    Not sure, maybe next year.

  • @backupaddict1356

    @backupaddict1356

    11 ай бұрын

    Ok thanks@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS

  • @hornetbad
    @hornetbad11 ай бұрын

    For me, I completely converted to ( CasaOS ) because it is most suitable for ( Home Use ) with ease for what I want , SMB storage center, containers are EASY in CasaOS and can be installed on any device .. Yes, any computer, including Raspberry Pi if you want to !!

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    11 ай бұрын

    CasaOS is neat, just make sure you are backing things up :)

  • @hornetbad

    @hornetbad

    11 ай бұрын

    @@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Of course, the system is installed on a separate hard disk, and the storage and backup are on other hard disks, and this is essential. In general, I think that CasaOS for home use it is much better than TrueNAS!! thank you man for all the good job and Thank you for your wonderful KZread channel

  • @rkeller1984
    @rkeller198410 ай бұрын

    What's the difference between Angelfish, Bluefin and Cobia?

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    10 ай бұрын

    Oldest to newest in that order

  • @NoNamenoonehere
    @NoNamenoonehere10 ай бұрын

    mostly using core,but getting tempted to move totally to scale

  • @sjenkinsnm
    @sjenkinsnm11 ай бұрын

    I'm on core trying to migrate to scale. Moving jails is the worst! They really need to get LXC containers... Originally used for just storage and Plex but now I've been running my business for 3 years off a TrueNAS including groupware, virtual machines, mail server, and dozens of services besides.

  • @edwinkm2016

    @edwinkm2016

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes this are ugly when you want to run custom scripts for example. In my case I create my own container images with script that do 1 task which ends eventually. So to make it interactive I run a “sleep forever” as main proces and now I can use it like a jail

  • @finding.filene6509

    @finding.filene6509

    10 ай бұрын

    A project I'm working on will likely use Ubuntu as its hypervisor uses LXC. So I feel you on LXC support and containers.

  • @Darkk6969
    @Darkk696911 ай бұрын

    Core for me as only using it as pure file server. Eventually I will move over to scale simply because I like getting under the hood and Debian is great for that. Another reason why I use ProxMox.

  • @edwinkm2016

    @edwinkm2016

    11 ай бұрын

    What do you mean with “under the hood”? You should treat the Nas as an appliance. Do not install software on the OS layer. You have jails on Core and Containers on Scale as alternative.

  • @bikerchrisukk
    @bikerchrisukk11 ай бұрын

    Core running on 5 machines and 1 machine using Scale for experimentation purposes.

  • @truckerallikatuk
    @truckerallikatuk11 ай бұрын

    Core or Scale? I kinda wish I had the money for Enterprise... or the need. Ah well, scale works for me. Just running one server with scale right now. It has a few docker containers, and I have zero idea what the heck a kubernetes is or why I'd want any.

  • @edwinkm2016

    @edwinkm2016

    11 ай бұрын

    It is the orchestrator. It can spin up extra containers if your website gets more load. It is also cluster aware so you can spread the load over multiple machines. So, enterprise features. Not sure if any decent company should run their apps on the NAS directly though

  • @Theborg72
    @Theborg7211 ай бұрын

    Thanks for another good review I switched back from scale to core. The 2 biggest reasons are 1. Account management was a nightmare to understand in scale and the fact that they would remove support for rsync was what made me switch back. Now it remains but not as a service. so how it will work in the future remains to be seen if it is time to go to scale or stay on core.

  • @krismoore9223

    @krismoore9223

    10 ай бұрын

    The only "rsync" that was removed was "rsyncd", which was moved to an app. Using rsync to sync to and from TrueNAS SCALE over SSH is still fully supported as usual.

  • @W00DGR0USE
    @W00DGR0USE8 ай бұрын

    I'm sad this wasn't brought up, but if there's no feature scale offers you that you need and you're running an older system I would recommend core solely over the fact that the scale is a bit of a ram hog in comparison to core.

  • @GourmetSaint
    @GourmetSaint11 ай бұрын

    TrueNAS Scale. Virtualised under Proxmox, passing through the LSI SAS card.

  • @sagarsriva

    @sagarsriva

    11 ай бұрын

    I would never virtualize my NAS. I do other way around that's why scale is the best. ZFS support is must

  • @GourmetSaint

    @GourmetSaint

    11 ай бұрын

    @@sagarsriva There is full support for ZFS when you pass through the SAS card. TN Scale sees all attached drives natively. It works very well.

  • @edwinkm2016

    @edwinkm2016

    11 ай бұрын

    It’s a choice of risks. You create another complex layer (OS) with potential bugs, timing issues, etc.

  • @mt_kegan512

    @mt_kegan512

    11 ай бұрын

    For production maybe not wise. For a homelab run by a guy that seems to know what he's doing?...totes fine. You guys are both correct. Make sure you backup your pools tho!

  • @zparihar
    @zparihar11 ай бұрын

    They are removing Rsync from scale?????

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    11 ай бұрын

    They are leaving in the OS but getting rid of the menus and modules.

  • @fvgoya
    @fvgoya11 ай бұрын

    I still don't understand the difference. I think that the scale is a little better, because runs Linux but, still, if both are so similar, why the Core version exists?

  • @marcogenovesi8570

    @marcogenovesi8570

    11 ай бұрын

    because Core is older than Scale, and is the base for their paid enterprise version. Scale is the "next gen" of their TrueNAS appliance and will probably take over when they are done developing all the features they couldn't have in Core.

  • @fvgoya

    @fvgoya

    11 ай бұрын

    @@marcogenovesi8570 Got it now. Thank you very much Marco!!

  • @kellyling9216
    @kellyling921611 ай бұрын

    Running a Core system at home. I just need it to be a NAS/File Storage, plus my use case at home requires RSync. Running a separate eSXi server for my dev work / vms

  • @niacinsoupbowl
    @niacinsoupbowl4 ай бұрын

    I prefer core but its being left to rot by IX systems.

  • @marioskyriakou
    @marioskyriakou11 ай бұрын

    I would love to see videos for WS2022 AD and more!

  • @MatthewHill
    @MatthewHill11 ай бұрын

    Team Core all the way until they pry BSD from my cold dead hands.

  • @diedrichg
    @diedrichg11 ай бұрын

    Nope. Neither. I loved Core but jails were too much maintenance. Scale plain blows monkey balls with its implementation of Kubernetes. This is why I switched to Unraid and I'm as happy as ever. (pssst, Unraid now has ZFS)

  • @jdancouga

    @jdancouga

    11 ай бұрын

    Unraid + ZFS FTW!!! The only drawback for most users is that unraid is not free. However, I think it is worth every penny.

  • @sweetjonnie
    @sweetjonnie7 ай бұрын

    core because FreeBSD

  • @ralmslb
    @ralmslb11 ай бұрын

    The ARC cache limitation on Linux is a deal-breaker for me at this time. No option other than waiting even more :(

  • @chrish297

    @chrish297

    11 ай бұрын

    You just need to follow his tutorial it's limited by configuration. It just needs a quick config to allow full ARC.

  • @Yuriel1981

    @Yuriel1981

    11 ай бұрын

    I dunno I feel with being able to resize the Arc limitation like Tom just demonstrated in his previous video is pretty mitigating on that front. And with scale being designed with docker containers and Pods using RAM as well the initial 50% limit does seem conservative but some free memory for Apps are necessary.

  • @ralmslb

    @ralmslb

    11 ай бұрын

    @@chrish297 it's not a fix. Having X amount of memory completely locked is a problem and is shocking how Linux is incapable of dealing with that in 2023. Its only less of a problem for people running 128Gb+ of Ram, but not everyone is.

  • @marcogenovesi8570

    @marcogenovesi8570

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ralmslb Technically speaking it's more of an integration issue, you don't need to lock away ram to be used as cache for linux native filesystems because they actually use Linux's caching subsystem. ZFS can't.

  • @krismoore9223

    @krismoore9223

    10 ай бұрын

    This is on our roadmap for Q2 '24 to have addressed in Dragonfish, FYI.

  • @nynros31415
    @nynros3141511 ай бұрын

    scale, bc i can kvm this 😂

  • @TechySpeaking
    @TechySpeaking11 ай бұрын

    First

  • @mikepxg6406
    @mikepxg6406Ай бұрын

    OMG an American.....

  • @kchiem
    @kchiem11 ай бұрын

    I would bet that iX abandons FreeBSD within 2 years.

  • @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    @LAWRENCESYSTEMS

    11 ай бұрын

    They can't and won't as they are still selling 5 year support contracts.

  • @kchiem

    @kchiem

    11 ай бұрын

    @@LAWRENCESYSTEMS They'll just tell everyone to switch at that point.

  • @gcs8
    @gcs811 ай бұрын

    TrueNAS core for most things, OSNEXUS Quantastor for HA

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