I just got the full meal deal from bob last week. I will be assembling this over the next week. Thank you for putting this video up, it will help me get started. Also, shout out to Bob at race at home. I live in WA state and the crate I received from Bob (UK) was packed as well as anything I have ever ordered. Their attention to detail and open communication made it a pleasure to do business with. Thanks to Karl for the video and Race at home for a great sim!

Man, your rig is evolving fast! Awesome stuff.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Sure is!

@triggerhappy9036

2 жыл бұрын

Trust I’m so jealous haha 👌🏾 🤣

Me watching the video: "There is no way he's going to lift a full alu profile + DD2 sim rig on his own. Someone's going to have to come and help hi---oh, it's on already." :D :D :D

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

lol I like a challenge!

Awesome! Love the detail you take in your presentations.

I'm really happy that your channel is growing this fast so now you can test this stuff for us 😃

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

The channel is still small but I count myself very lucky! :)

After using the pt 6 actuator at the SRG... I was absolutely amazed!!!!! Barry put me in the rally trucks and oh my god!!..say lumps and bumps one more time 😆.. Lastly congrats on the upgrade!!

Big moves, Great video Karl

Awesome setup! Also loved seeing the Winamp visualizer running in the background =)

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah old school! :)

Great video and an amazing rig! I have been using a motion rig for a few months now and the immersion it adds especially with VR is just insane. After some time I cant imagine sim racing without the motion. You get so used to it.

@blacknovella

2 жыл бұрын

i feel that way with my buttkickers.. i wanna do the D-box deal.. but man.. is it really worth it at the end of the day?

@Arvidje

2 жыл бұрын

@@blacknovella no not worth the price tag.. try the sfx 100 project , and save up for the surge and traction motion later. I mean those actuators are awesome against a buttkicker, u will be feeling g-force, but that price of the d-box is way to high for what u get..

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Having recently used D Box I'd say no, the PT actuator or Prosimu ones work just as well.

@TurboJLo

2 жыл бұрын

@@blacknovella Yes

@FrankHerfjord

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling I went for Symdeck which is a similar actuator approach but actually more effectively at a lower cost. 6 grand for the full 5-dof.

Wow this rig looks fantastic. Looked really fun. I imagine getting that up the stairs was fun. That side to side movement looked pretty cool but not excessive like I've seen with some motion systems.

@pt-actuatorukltd1118

2 жыл бұрын

Getting it up the stairs was easy, Karl just put it under his arm and Aaron and I watched.

your setup has evolved massively

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

It has! All thanks to the generosity of others though, I could never invest this sort of money.

Your setup is looking gooood 👌 Nice work mate. You've come a long way and you full deserve it. Cats name is Ori. Reminded me, I still have to finish will of the Wisps!!😐😲

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! :) It is and thats exactly why we named her Ori, I also am yet to finish Will Of The Wisp, so little time for game playing these days!

Just watched your video. Freaking awesome! I have considered getting the lowrider for my PT actuators kit, unfortunately I am in New Zealand so the shipping may be $$$. Informative video as usual!

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm sure it won't be cheap but it's a great toy! :)

It looks a really good system, the only thing you need is one of those seatbelt force feedback systems

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in two minds about those (having used one recently and reflected upon it), it mostly just feels like you are being hugged by someone and nothing like braking IRL lol! Maybe if I spent more time with one and also configured the motion to very slightly pull back and tilt forward (and I do mean only SLIGHLTY) it may work better?!

Great video! Can't wait to see how you feel about this rig once you've had it for several months. I live in the States and will upgrade my rig sometime soon and am very interested in this accuator based system and how low it sits. I hate the look of the taller models and would have trouble putting something like that in my space. God bless and race on 👍😎

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

It's such great minimal design!

Great video as usual Karl. It's becoming evident that not just your subscribers appreciate your honest and fair review style but the guys making the gear do as well. And that's a pretty big commendation for your channel.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that mate thanks!

great stuff as always ! now i know why your monitors have to be at that height ... your giving Will a run for his money !

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, had to raise them up for this! :)

Thank you

Looks like another brilliant, fun addition to the rig Karl. The one good thing about my condition is (and others with tinnitus) that I don't think that high pitch noise would make a difference to normal! 🙂 One thing I would like to ask is how does this setup now compare to the high end racing pods you have been in this year? Perhaps a video detailing the cost of your current set up might be educational?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think you'd not notice at all then :) Good question and I'll do a quick video to answer! :)

@mattwelland8466

2 жыл бұрын

Race@Home are also working up a sound-insulated servo case, which massively reduces the impact of coil whine!

Looks f***ing awesome. I don't even like racing games and I want a go on that 😂

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

lol It is! :)

Couldn't wait to click on this. Just got off work. 🙆🏽‍♂️🙆🏽‍♂️

The movement looks very subtle. Not like others I've seen.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

In rally it feels really big when big things are happening, the camera really doesn't do it justice.

A very impressive piece of kit, and for a prototype, it looks beautifully made 👌 great explanation on the physics of how it all works, in an easy to understand way,appreciate that 😉 That is an amazing rig you have, and as someone else mentioned, investing in a 4point harness might be useful? Not just for the immersion obviously 😀 but also to stop you moving around in the seat so much, cause that will wear you out!😯 Quick question, might be too early to tell, but how's it affected your times, say,in DirtRally? Quicker cause of the immersion or slower,for now, cause it feels more real and therefore will need time to adjust to the game again?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

A harness may be needed, we'll see! Motion is great fun but IMO will always make you slower, fighting being thrown around versus sat tranquil is a no brainer, like running too higher FFB it just makes everything harder.

Just make sure you keeps the pets out , when you play :)

Looks amazing! How does it compare your your old seat mover? Also you could add some of those motorized seat belts next to simulate braking :)

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

There is no comparison, a seat mover is very limited in what it can replicate.

Hey Karl, are you interested in button boxes or dashboards for the Fanatec CSL DD? Would love to see a video about that stuff. I'm still waiting for SRH to put a matching dashboard for that wheelbase on their homepage...

Love your content Karl. Just a question about what setting you changed in the Thanos that was giving you a strange noise, and what kind of noise you were experiencing, if you can recall?

@KarlGosling

29 күн бұрын

I can't mate sorry, was too long ago.

That whine right on my tinnitus frequency

Stunning...Can i ask what TV's you are using?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

LG OLED C1's 55" mate, lovely displays.

IF they sell the bottom half of the rig I may very well be interested I already have baby monster actuators just need the 4th and 5th dof. Great video!

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

The Low Rider is the bottom half mate! :)

Looks like you've reached peak rig... Can't really think of anything you could do to improve it, at least not dramatically. Maybe a simcube 2 pro, but not a huge improvement from a DD2, and plus you've got that fanatec sponsor/affiliation, so makes sense to use the DD2. Some replica GT3 wheels would be awesome, but those are quite pricey.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think you're right, maybe a G belt setup but there's not much else.

After having this low rider kit for a few months how do you like it. Also I was looking into getting that prime rig and was wondering how much wider is the floor deck than the frame of the prime. Wondering if I can add rolling casters for moving it to the other side of the room when not using .

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

It's great, no issues at all! :) No you can't mate, the whole assembly would be too heavy and the plate is designed to be flat on a floor not suspended by it's corners.

One thing I found interesting was that in the gameplay section, you were reacting to slides before they became apparent on the screen. I have recently re-installed DR2 but found the car feels really floaty. I am going to re-watch your set-up video to see if I can resolve it.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Thats because on slippery surfaces you have to initiate the turn before you reach the corner and the same applies to counter steering... if you wait for it to happen it's too late.

@TheRatlord74

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling I think I should have said loss of traction rather than sliding.

Hello Carol, I asked you before on how do you connect your TVs to your computer, would you please elaborate on that! I have the new LGOLED TV and I am considering purchasing two additional as well but I only have one HDMI 2.1 output in my video card

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Watch my video on how to do it.

@MaherIbrahim

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling thank you!

Great video Karl. You did by poor old Bob dinner and a beer, right?

@pt-actuatorukltd1118

2 жыл бұрын

No

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I think I made him a coffee?

@pt-actuatorukltd1118

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling you had no milk

@danthomas7909

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao!

How are you finding this now you've had it running for a while Karl? Maybe worth doing a more in-depth follow up video? I tried the demo rig at Race@Home just before Xmas and came away feeling that the 4 corner actuators were much more immersive than surge and traction loss (in that order). To be fair to Bob & Aaron, they were completely run off their feet trying to get orders shipped in time for Xmas & the rig wasn't properly configured as they'd been running some test stuff before I turned up. They were running the 150mm actuators for surge & TL but said that they are planning to change them to the 200/250mm travel ones early in the NY. They have offered for me to have a follow up demo when they will have more time to get it properly set up, which I'll almost certainly take them up on.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I will be doing a follow up at some point mate for sure. But I love it! :) The vertical actuators can easily be replaced by 4x strong tactile transducers (for about 85% of the effect) so they are they least important IMO, TL and surge cannot. But proper tuning is needed to really fell the benefit, plus TL is not something you would ever really feel unless you're into Rally or just a bad driver and forever losing the arse end! lol

Karl I ended up buying the all new drivers to replace my old drivers because of that noise…the new ones are white….they were 300$ a piece and my other drivers, other the. The noise we’re fine….it was well worth the money….300x6….the new ones are silent

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

This is all on loan so not really for me to swap things out... plus I don't have a spare $1800 either! lol

Can you do a review on the simXpro x80

What a setup😃👌My SimXperience Controllerboxes are also quite noisy from the fans and I just have a multiple plug socket with switches fixed to my rig to shut them down when not in the game. I also bought closed headphones to dam the actuator-sounds when driving. DR2 has rather vague telemetry-output IMO and if getting BeamNG to work, it is a hole different thing. Best motion-telemetry has IMO iRacing and AMS2 on tarmac and you can probably run both with true triple 4k and proper triplescreen-correction. Isn't it better to add a headtracker to the rig like Boosted Media so that the FOV moves with the TL?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Cockpit view is no use in DR with triples so head tracking won't add anything. Other sims move the cockpit as you accelerate and brake anyway (ACC for example), I don't think they do for the back end swinging around but that should not be happening in non rally sims and if it does you're either crashing or it's so minimal you don't notice the view at all lol At least thats my testing so far :) I don't think Will uses it anymore either.

@Leynad778

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling Will is using a D-Box only atm, so doesn't make sense to track since lock to horizon does the job. With the NLR two axis TL it's rather a must and with one axis it depends on the game I guess. If the camera looks straight only, the dashboard is fixed or only goes up/down while your rig is changing your viewing angle all the time including the wheel, it sounds to me like a good idea to compensate this with a headtracker. Not mandatory like with the NLR, but it basically is the same effect than mounting the display to a motion rig.

Big UP to Bob. Short for Kate.

@pt-actuatorukltd1118

2 жыл бұрын

Where's Baldrick?

Nice.. so mate would you say get the PT actuators but I talking with out the Low rider as that overall cost is more than I want to spend.. will just the actuators be worth it as in how it feels Or would you say just go with transducers?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Really tough choice mate, Low Rider and 4x transducers would probably be might choice.

@SURG3NT

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling cheers mate

great video, what about losing traction at the front, does it affect the movement of the platform?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

No mate, sims do not output front traction loss data.

@simvictorr3732

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling okayy got that, thank you

Great video. How come you don't drive Richard Burns Rally? It's still going strong thanks to the modding community.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Visuals.

Anyone know if you Can use tactile transducers under sim seat if you’re on PS4 if so how?

Quality btw sometimes the high pitch sound is a coil core vibrating. If you open the box and look for the coils and (when power is off !!!) push stuff around a bit, it can help stop the sound.

Do they ship the Lowrider to the U.S.? Best design I have seen.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

They do yes!

@johnambers

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling Great thanks.

I used a car jack to lift the rig. 😄 @21:30. I'm sorry but i don't agree. I had a butkicker first and now 4 actuators motion setup. I places the transducer in all 4 corners but my aluminum rig is so firm that you cant tell where the vibration is coming from. Entire rig shakes all together. There is no way you can replicate what you feel trough motion with transducers. Not even close. When i hit the curbs for example the side of the rig lifts and vibrates and i can expect what the car wil do on that moment. Because of the impact. The immersion is a different level. I can catch slides because traction lost movement. Yes also possible with 4 actuators. So much different. Of course im talking about track racing. Haven't tried rally yet.

Which Servo motor is used in this.

nice vidya

4:42 / 32:10 self-inflicted wound or did some 5 DOF bit bite?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Stabbed myself with a screwdriver a work! lol

Hallo aus welchen Material besteht dein Dach?

So how much flowers do you need to convince the wife that this fits our room over stairs.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Many flowers! 😆

Holy shit, nice! But does it really cost 9k?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah motion isn't cheap!

so this is the current motion platform y usin?

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

What is the difference in the different dof I see 3 5 6

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

How many axis there are that can move, ie: pitch, roll, sway, surge, heave.

I missing the heave quick movements (dampers/springs ) surge and pitch are available but the heave not so ( I have the sfx100 motion ) so I know what is missing Maybe the rally simulator telemetry output is not so good as Iracing-rFactor2-Assetto Competizione ones

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean your SFX1000 has slow heave speed? This setup can pull 2G of acceleration and literally throw me out of my seat if I want it to!

@bwm9637

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling The very fast movements, it seems to me that you get pitch, surge movement but not the fast ones, can you feel rumblestrips? and max rpm engine fibes trough the basic movement Its difficult to explaine trough words, maybe you should post a iracing video because that has perfect telemetry output I doubt if the rally games are as good

I didn't know the mega drive was powerful enough to drive triple screens

That 16khz sound is awful, at first, I thought it was some florescent lights until you explained what it was and I could still hear it when you were racing. That would drive me nuts! Btw, I'm 52 and still have great hearing.....

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah thankfully I don't hear it when racing, the volume is up much louder than in this video (I didn't want to blow out the mic) and once I'm done they go off.

@TMERUNNR

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling Thank you for the great content!!👍

You start off with a G29, PlaySeat Challenge and 24" monitor and before you know it... The curse of Sim Racing.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Yup! lol

I messaged them as I already have a 3dof sfx100 built motion rig and I have the motor and drivers and just needed the actuator and they never responded

@pt-actuatorukltd1118

2 жыл бұрын

Message us again

Looks like it might be time to fit a 5-point >_

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I do have one here from my old seat mover days!

@richardrussell7082

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling What about the belt tensioners that 'simulate' braking force?

💜🔥💜

What you think of the Yaw2?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Fun but not great for sim racing... I've not tried one though so just an opinion based on what I can see from video's etc.

@extremeforce7566

2 жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling thats what I would use it for is sim racing nice all around package for 2k IMO

@pt-actuatorukltd1118

2 жыл бұрын

From the guys at YAW Production of Yaw2s havent yet started, we’re having some slight delays due to the unexpectedly changing material costs and the chip shortage

It's 5 dof, what's the missing 1? Heave?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

No sway, the front doesn't move left to right.

@pt-actuatorukltd1118

2 жыл бұрын

Upright motion with 4 actuators is 3DOF. Surge is 4, Traction loss is 5

it feels slow! am I right?

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Slow? What does?

Cockpit view would be more suited to this type of kit .

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Not in Dirt Rally, it doesn't support triples.

at the 20:22 mark look at the glass, is it just me or is that a face on the glass???

@gregersalbrechtsen2698

2 жыл бұрын

Its the Batman logo:)

Do you even play racing games tho lol

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

Rarely right now! lol

This is the same guy who gave us a whole video explaining why is got rid of his motion rig.

@KarlGosling

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't have a motion rig, you mean my DOF Reality seat mover that I sold to buy my DD1? Yeah this is a whole other level, doesn't compare at all! :)