Provectus Group | 50 Yard Zero on a 25 Yard Range?
Only have a 25 yard range to zero your rifle on. Well in this video we show you how to perform an approximate 50 yard zero on a 25 yard range. Hope you enjoy!!
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This is exactly what I needed. Perfectly explained. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing Ken. Really enjoy your teaching style.
Thank you for this video! You explained everything perfectly and it's just what I've been looking for. Keep up the great work!
Amazing information, thank you for all of your instructional videos. Your teaching style is so easy to follow and understand.
@caseymelick8023
3 жыл бұрын
I so agree
Great video explaining this. You broke it down well compared to others I've seen.
@caseymelick8023
3 жыл бұрын
He does that with everything great instructor
Thanks great video just followed your advice 1.2 inch low at 25. Gets me hunting til I can fine tune at 50
exactly what i was looking for thank you!
Thank you! Back up home, I liked using a 50 yard zero, but had to move quite a distance away due to my job, and there are no rifle ranges around here that are longer than 25 yards. Well... unless I wanna spend 700+dollars a year for a membership.
Just what I needed. Thanks!
Thank you for this info
you are the man! 1.2 inches. Thank you
Dude thank you, fantastic advice
Thanks. I've heard that a 50 yard zero will also be a zero at 200 yards. Now if you don't mind doing another video for the .308 NATO or Winchester caliber. Thanks for this educational video. This is very helpful. God Bless.
Thank You for the Information !
Thanks brother just want I needed!
Very clearly explained. Thanks
Good stuff. Thanks.
Thanks for this video! Quick question, about how many clicks up would be needed to adjust from the 25y to the 50y zero if the CCO is 1/4 MOA?
great video, thank you for not dragging it out for 15 min
Great info!!! 👍🏾
Excellent video!
Excellent video. Just earned a sub.
Perfect sir! Thank you.
Well explained, is this also effective for a pistol caliber carbine like the Ruger PC Carbin, using using loads from 115 grains (Target rounds) up to 147 (Federal HST)? Let’s let’s put the middle ground at 124 grains.
Perfect! Thanks!
Thanks for a great video. What is the significance of the 1.2 inches? Is it the height of the sight above the bore? Here in the U.K. our ranges are measured in meters please how would you set this up to do a 50 meter zero at 25 meters? Kind regards from Dorset England 🇬🇧🇺🇸👍
Good work.
good info!
You can do a 10yd 50/200yd zero. Rounds impact exactly 1.9” below poa. I did have to fine tune at an actual 50yd range as well
@hinchman101
3 жыл бұрын
That's my favorite technique as well my friend. I do it in the background with a bore sight laser. ☻☻☻👍🏿✌🏿👌🏿🤙🏿
@MrThfknsamurai
3 жыл бұрын
Is this only for 223/556 or does this apply for others. Im zeroing a bolt action 7.62x39
@hinchman101
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrThfknsamurai That applies to all rifles😉
Thanks for the information. So basically 5 clicks up on scope that is zero for 25 yard
You just earned a subscription 👏
@caseymelick8023
3 жыл бұрын
yes he did he got mine
Beautiful
How you move your POI to bull if POA is the dot above Bull?
Thanks
Good info Ken! I use the 10 yard 1.9" offset poa/poi target. That also equals a 50 yard zero.
@midwesttroubleshooters9284
6 жыл бұрын
Eric Hertel do you see huge deviation at distance? I don't like the lack of precision you get zeroing close up.
@jungleno.
2 жыл бұрын
The Bullet is barely stabilized at 10 yards.
@Code_Made
Жыл бұрын
So at 25 yards you would be roughly 1.5" low to equal 4" high at 300 n bullseye at 100? Ty for ne help🤙
Good info
the best method is first identify the size of the kill zone, then the max distance you want to hit the kill zone, then pick the flattest trajectory that hits the most kill zone targets out to your chosen distance, i myself perfer a no hold over trajectory for the simple reason that front sight can block view of where you need to hold, especially at long ranges but what really matters is what ever zero you choose its if you hit your kill zone wether you hold under or over knowing where to hold to hit your kill zone, shooting air rifles also for most of my life having a dozen different velocities, over 100 different pellets with different ogives and profiles and over 25 different grain weights, we air gunners know trajectory well because we have to, we have much more drop, lots of wind drift, we make more ballistic calculations for targets of many sizes, and other variables to deal with far more then center fire rifles wich gives us vast experience because we shoot alot being the cost is cheaper to do more tests, at the end of the day its all about hitting your kill zone out to your prefered distance despite your zero, if kill zone target gets hit every time with using more then one sight in then it doesnt matter, its all about making hits on kill zone never missing any out to your disired distance you choose, combat, plinking, competition and even extreme long range are all different from each other. in a imperfect world you can have flat shooting with out hold over nor long range shooting with out hold under, some where in a trajectory path you will have hold under and hold over depending on distance
Depends on the weight of bullet. Sight my rifle 1inch low at 25yds and hits bullseye at 100
@oscaroso926
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was going to ask... thank you
@ericcarr7557
3 жыл бұрын
Technically, it's the velocity of the bullet, since Newton's law dictates that all objects drop at the same rate regardless of weight. So a 55 grain bullet and a 62 grain bullet will drop at the same rate if all other variables are eliminated.
Great video.. Question.. How bout useing a 243 100grain?? With a 1/4th click scope?
How could you do this with 300 blk out
If your sight height(bore center to optic center) is around 1.5 inch, aiming at 1.2 inch above the bullseye at 25 yard would land your shot at the bullseye. If your sight height is greater than 1.5 inch, then you will need to aim higher than 1.2 inch above the bullseye due to a different bullet path. My point is how high your sight from the bore center will make a difference.
Is this the same at altitude? Thanks
Ok, but this is giving you the aprox. if you are using a red dot optic right? Given you a sight height of 2.5 inches above the bore? Because if you are using iron sights and I confirmed this with 1.5 inch of sight height it would be aprox. .6 - .7 inch, but if you are speaking of a sight height of 2.5 inches with a red dot optic yes you are correct 1.1-1.2 inchs. Please let me know thanks. ps. You can do an offset at 10 yards of -1.9 for 50/200 yards. I use a 7 yard in my hallway at home with a target on my front door. That would be aprox. -2.1 inch offset, which is -1.9 10 yards, 0 at 50 yards and so on. Still have to tweak 1 click here and there sometimes dependings on weather, grains, wind ect.
Awesome
How would you do this if you wanted a 36 meter zero?
1.2 is that 1 1/4 inches.=( my back woods we walk pase the range)
So Ken, is the 1.2 yd dot equal to every 25yds? Such as 75yds=2.4in, 100yd 3.6in etc...?
@caseymelick8023
3 жыл бұрын
that's a good question
Why don’t ranges that have rifle bays sells targets already setup for the 50yd zero from the 25yd line?
@TheHonestTruth
3 жыл бұрын
The real question. I just printed some targets online that I'll bring to the range.
very clear explanation. perfect language. no slang. excellent
@ProvectusGroup
5 жыл бұрын
Claude M. P. Thank you
@talknheadz
4 жыл бұрын
Howd you expect his dialect to be? Im curious...smh
@6tuf85dyfu
Жыл бұрын
Let me guess, he's very "articulate and well-spoken."
I'm a little late on this. Nonetheless, I went to the range as of recent to zero in a new reflex/red dot. I was zero at 25 yards. However, I ran the target out to 50 yards and was 5"-5.5 " higher than my zero at 25 yards. Hence, I did use the magnifier for the 50 just for a clear view. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
@caseymelick8023
3 жыл бұрын
this dude is a really good instructor
@randomchannel4886
3 жыл бұрын
Check your mounts for looseness
This will work if you boresight with a laser too correct?
@manuelwheeler5254
3 жыл бұрын
A bore sight will get you close but they're not 100% accurate
how do u measure 1.2 inches?
@rsawye03
4 жыл бұрын
Caliper set, drafting ruler... or just eyeball it a hair under an inch and a quarter with a tape measure. This is only going to get you very close, either way you’ll need to fine tune at some point on an actual 50yd range.
@thomasconley6683
3 жыл бұрын
( 1- 3/16”) is the answer. type in on a web browser “inches to fraction calculator”. You’ll be able to convert automatically the closest comparison . You need to select converting to 1/16” Link below www.omnicalculator.com/conversion/inches-to-fraction
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@midwesttroubleshooters9284
6 жыл бұрын
Abdullah bin Bobby At-Taaeb I can't believe you beat me...
@jungleno.
2 жыл бұрын
You’re special
you want to be 1.2 in low at 25 yards
..Different on a 900 fps pellet rifle..
Am I the only one out here using iron sites? Every video seems to be focused on optical. Of course I'm assuming the same rules don't apply
Check out jerking the trigger for a free printout Zeroing Target - 50/200 Yard Zero at 10 Yards jerkingthetrigger.com/2015/02/13/zeroing-target-50200-yard-zero-at-10-yards/
First, don't do a 50 yard zero with an M4, it precludes the detachable carry handle sight from having a BDC function. Here's an explanation: Properly adjusting the M4, or M16-A4’s sights for a 300-meter Battle Sight Zero (BSZ) will sync the sights for a Bullet Drop Compensation function (BDC). The “Battle Sight Zero” supports engagement of unknown distance targets, allowing the shooter to aim center mass on an “E” type target and achieve a hit from muzzle to 300 meters with bullet impacting no more than 10 inches above point of aim, and hit to 350 meters with bullet impacting no more than 10 inches below point of aim. In fact, utilizing the whole 20 inches of target below center of mass hold allows the shooter to hit a target out to 400 meters. Once zeroed for a 300-meter battle sight zero, the elevation wheel can now be hastily re-adjusted for engagement of known distance targets beyond 300 meters. This adjustment is known as Bullet Drop Compensation. The numbers on the wheel represent distances in meters. Bottoming out the wheel to 6/3 the BDC is set for 300 meters. Clicking up to 4, or 5 adjusts the trajectory of the round to engage targets at the corresponding distance (i.e. 4=400m, 5=500m). One full revolution up from 300 correlates to the number 6 on the left side of the 3. Thus set, elevation is now adjusted for 600 meters. Begin zeroing by clicking front sight post to where its base is flush with the deck of the front sight base. Next, set the small rear sight aperture, also known as the “daylight” aperture, in the up position (the larger aperture is only used when visibility is limited, shooting inside 200 meters); and, turn rear sight windage knob to align index line located on the top of the large aperture’s outside rim with center index line located on the back of the rear sight’s base. Next, turn the rear sight elevation wheel counter clock-wise to bottom it out and then click it clock-wise to index the wheel’s 6/3 marking to the index line located on the left side of the carry handle above the elevation wheel. Now, because the path of the bullet will intersect line of sight twice when zeroing to any finite distance, this is how it is possible to sight-in the M16-A4 for a 300 meter zero at 32 meters, or the M4 at 25 meters. If precluded to a 25-meter range when sighting-in the M16-A4, you can compensate for the 32-meter to 25-meter offset by setting the M16-A4’s BDC 2 clicks clock-wise beyond the 6/3 setting, which will place the BDC wheel at the “Z” marking. So, using a big enough target to consistently understand the sight/target relationship, set the target out to available sight-in distance; and, using a center of mass hold, shoot 5 rounds from a stable position to produce a group on the target. Triangulate the group, excluding bad shots, to define the group’s center point; and, adjust sights to move next grouping to target’s center. Adjust elevation from front sight by turning sight post in counter clock-wise direction to move bullet point of impact down. Turn post in clock-wise direction to move bullet point of impact up. One click of post will move M16-A4 bullet point of impact 1.25 MOA, or M4 bullet point of impact 1.75 MOA. Adjust windage by turning windage knob clock-wise to move bullet point of impact right. Turn knob counter clock-wise to move bullet point of impact left. One click of knob will move M16-A4 bullet point of impact .50 MOA, or M4 bullet point of impact .75 MOA. What’s a M O A? MOA means minute of angle, an angular unit of measurement. This unit of measurement, which is equal to approximately 1 inch per hundred yards, is used to describe the distance in inches a sight adjustment will make at target distance. For example, a 1 MOA sight adjustment would move bullet impact 1 inch at one hundred yards, 2 inches at two hundred yards, 3 inches at three hundred yards, and 10 inches all the way out to one thousand yards. Understanding the effect of sight movement in MOA is important to correctly adjust sights for bullets to hit where aimed; yet, the arithmetic for an understanding is easy. Using the simple math as shown, you can determine up/down sight adjustment needed; and, doing the math again, you can determine left/right sight adjustment needed. 1. First, think what the value of 1 MOA is at target distance: Distance to Target in Meters / 100 = Value of 1 MOA in Inches at Target Distance 2. Next, think how many of those MOAS will fit into inches of needed movement: Inches of Movement Needed / Value of 1 MOA in Inches at Target Distance = MOA Adjustment 3. Finally, determine how many clicks to sight for needed movement: MOA Adjustment / Sight MOA Click Value = Clicks to Sight for Needed Movement For example, let’s say you’ve set your target out to 25 meters and you’ve produced a group which is 2 inches low and 2 inches right of the target’s center. Remembering the M16-A4’s front sight has a 1 .25 MOA click value, and the rear sight windage drum has a .50 MOA click value you can now determine sight adjustment needed: First, determine adjustment needed to front sight controlling up/down movement: 1. 25 Meters / 100 = .25 Inches 2. 2 Inches / .25 = 8 MOA 3. 8 MOA / 1.25 = 6.4 clicks (round to 6 clicks) to sight elevation knob in clock-wise direction for needed vertical movement of grouping on target Now, repeat steps to determine adjustment needed to rear sight drum controlling left/right movement: 1. 25 Meters / 100 = .25 Inches 2. 2 Inches / .25 = 8 MOA 3. 8 MOA / .50 =16 clicks to sight windage knob in left direction for needed horizontal movement of grouping on target Is the math too difficult? Here’s an alternative no-math zeroing means. Using the military 25-meter M4/M16-A4 sight-in target (NSN 6920-01-395-2949), which uses a grid to graphically indicate sight adjustment clicks necessary to zero rifle for 300 meters, the M16-A4 or M4 can be zeroed without doing any arithmetic. Still, because sight adjustment for wind is estimated in MOA, practice sight adjustment using the math given, until confident you understand it. There are no substitutes for MOA math when sights need to be adjusted for wind. And, remember, if you sighted-in the M16-A4 at 25 meters, rather than 32 meters, you now need to turn the elevation wheel counter clock-wise 2 clicks, which will index the 6/3 marking to the index line on the carry handle above the elevation wheel. Thus set, the rifle is now zeroed for 300 meters and synchronized for a bullet drop compensation function.
@Gruuvin1
5 жыл бұрын
Seriously? Could you please repeat that?
@realisrealite5554
5 жыл бұрын
he's talking about 50yd zero for a red dot not carry handle.If you're not going to war or shooting iron sights past 300 meters then tje 50yd zero is fine too.
@monzudihungadowski2161
4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely want to understand my tools and this helped in this area. Thank you.
@cherylforir7218
3 жыл бұрын
Best and easiest one explained on the internet. PERFECT!
@jfrog1979
3 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck man. You wrote a whole goddamn thesis on the subject🤣👍
It also depends on your height above bore.