I trust a man who keeps the boxes

@bikesnbeerz

4 жыл бұрын

Ha. I thought I was the only one. Dust free gear/OCD with all boxes in the attic, ready to sell if needed.

@lastsonofktn

4 жыл бұрын

🤣 I have every single box since four years ago from all electronics gear pc stuff. I nearly died of laughter after reading this. You sir have made my morning thank you. Cheers.

@embodie_breaks7089

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@JB-xz6dt

3 жыл бұрын

Screw the boxes, I'd rather have more space for living organisms to thrive

@mlgl9728

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

Call me crazy, but this convinced me to buy a Prologue.

@final_mile_music9713

3 жыл бұрын

TheParanoidAndroid79 You aren’t crazy. The Korgs are more intuitive to program for me and the multiengine is awesome.

The color that gives the Prologue is unique. Sounds fantastic! Thanks for share

Great video. I feel the same way! Prophet has more life! Just got myself a Rev 2. Arriving soon. Cheers and keep your natural vibes!

Thanks for the video MR TUNA!!!!

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

you are WELCOME

What a great channel. Informative, entertaining, and enjoyable. I feel like this should be on T.V.

@MRTUNA

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it! Sometimes I feel like I could plan these things out and edit them a little more professionally, but half the fun is just seeing what comes out when I hit record!

Cool review. Thanks. I like the fingerprint thing at the end. Hilarious 😂 so many great choices it’s so hard to decide.🎹👍👍

Great informative video thanks a lot 👏🏻

Great presentation! :) The sequence and the sound at the 4:04

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

ReasonedWhistle if I had to (and eventually I will) it will be the Prophet for me too

They are both great. If you need the Prologue for your music buy it, if you need the Prophet’s sound for your music buy it. If you need them both buy them both. Fan boy hate is so old already in 2018. Grow up people. There’s something for everyone in the market.

@celticprogeny1569

5 жыл бұрын

My comment is better than your comment. It has a more vintage grammar fluidity whereas your comment is just contemporary digital verby thinness :)

@kikimarama6652

5 жыл бұрын

@@celticprogeny1569 Well you get a thumbs up because from your perspective a thumbs up from me in the southern hemisphere (NZ) is a thumbs down.

both are amazing and thank you making this video. one thing is that prologue is affordable and amazing synth for beginners

A comparison with emotion-type modulation: refreshing.

Great video! Thanks so much for this. I learned how synths work from the software called Reason. But despite the seemingly limitless capabilities of the software, I crave turning knobs and having happy accidents. I am going to take the Korg for test run.

Entertaining and informative. Thanks!

love the review! i would absolutely love to spend a few hours in this room, i'd go absolutely crazy making weird sounds

Lovely comp. and i really do like the sound of the floor .

I appreciate your videos

Great video I love prologue glad you got one

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

Ron Cavagnaro thanks buddy I am so so thrilled with it

Thank you so much for doing this video. I am still a novice to the Prologue and there isn't a lot of literature from Korg on how to do everything with it's functions. At least it's not entirely clear anyhow. I usually learn by watching other people's videos. That's how I learned how to use the Sub37. Not so many videos on the Prologue yet so seeing this video has actually helped out with quite a bit on using the multi engine. Now I just need a demonstration of how to use the split function on the keyboard lol

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

As I've found the split functions are in the menus but its not too hard to find once you're familiar with the layout. I've had the mini and the monologues and their workflow is exactly the same so it was super familiar right out of the box. I'm really happy with how easy everything is to access (except for velocity settings which I have forgiven). I'm gonna try to do some more comparison vids like this going into the future.... I just have no rhyme or reason to it so I start talking and kinda let it get away from me. A script would probably help but I'm too lazy for that. I think the lack of polish in the video is part of it's charm

A lot of weird negative fanboy comments on here. You guys have to realize that having synths that sound drastically different from each other is a huge positive right? I think people get up in arms only because they want to justify their purchase...but putting down other synths doesn’t make your synth better nor does it remotely justify your purchase more than someone else’s. Owning both would be a smart move since they have a very different sound and set of abilities. Comparison vids are only valid when comparing clones to originals or something like that. That’s why this is called a “friendly comparison” compare doesn’t inherently mean which one is better, comparing and contrasting is super important when buying synths and building a studio but really anyone watching this should just know this it’s just simple critical thinking skills

@BishopEddie5443

4 жыл бұрын

You're too logical and make too much sense. Most people don't listen to guys like us. lol

@metaspherz

4 жыл бұрын

Well stated. But fanboys will be fanboys, and sometimes it's good to hear the good vs. the bad contrasts as well as all the positive stuff. I almost bought the Prologue 16 when it was $1999 until I learned that it didn't have aftertouch or a sequencer. Now it's priced at $1499 but I still wouldn't buy it. If Korg eventually adds those missing features then I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.

@dbrent7995

4 жыл бұрын

@@metaspherz Get over it, the sound is up there with OB-6 and better than Prophet 6.

@SPAZZOID100

4 жыл бұрын

metaspherz neither of those features are essential.

@designator7402

4 жыл бұрын

@@SPAZZOID100 Maybe they are for them. Seems like a perfectly valid reason not to get one. Everybody has their own preferences.

awesome video! entertaining as well. P6 is still my baby too

your room makes me happy

@MRTUNA

5 жыл бұрын

me toooo

I have the prologue and the Rev 2...hands down my two favorite synths that I have fun exploring.

Very nice comparison. I’m choosing between these two and can’t decide but this makes it somewhat easier I think ✨❤️👍

@quarkyzarky

6 жыл бұрын

Prophet 6 all the way, seriously. It's not even close! Prologue doesn't even sound as good as many cheap DCO synths (or even VAs!) while Prophet 6 is hands down THE best modern analog poly we have, better than OB-6 too.

@benj4087

6 жыл бұрын

holy shit you're all over these comments, calm down

haha it’s like you read my mind making this video, it’s so good to see you’ve bonded with your prophet 6. i have been considering selling my polysix and replacing it with the prologue (but we all know i can’t sell another vintage synth) i had hopes the compressor thing would bring it to that vintage level of power. do one of these for ob-6 prophet 6!

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

I've gotta stop jamming and do more vids like this for KZread. I'm gonna try to do another OB-6 vs P6 one soon!

i watch your vids once in a while on instagram. im also in BC. I like how you have the ms2000 and the prologue. love both. prophet 6 does sound very nice though with the filter sweeps. love that harshness. i ended up going with the prologue 6 but sometimes i think "damn that compressor could be banging" even tho i got other compressors. Nice collection ya got dude. killer stuff.

@MRTUNA

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for watching!

Super helpful and also, wacky.

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

I kinda let this one get away from me :P Shoulda cleaned my finger nails and maybe broke it down into alternate takes and clips, but I went in with 0 script and just followed my heart. I was happy with the end result, it was a quick and dirty evening of shooting and editing. I so appreciate you taking the time to watch!

First time I heard a Prologue I thought wow that sounds amazing, but then I realized that they had left out a bunch of features. Now Im waiting for the Prologue XD.

@epicon6

5 жыл бұрын

FlyingLunatic Wouldn’t be called XD. it’s already an XD because the Minilogue XD is short for Minilogue X Digital because of the added digital oscillator that is already on the prologue.

@gerdakodak

4 жыл бұрын

With Diesel-engine?

@kierenmoore3236

4 ай бұрын

Yep - waiting on the Prologue 2, and the System-16 … 😉

Wow - the prologue sounds really good! I'm really hoping to see you eventually get sheetrock in that room! The inner completionist in me wants to see that done, hah.

good presentation thx

I really pondered this before finally buying the Prologue. I love the Prophet and had a original 5 for many years, but after extended playing of both, the fat rich timbre of the Korg sold me on it. It's a wonderful synth, no regrets.

@ErraticFaith

4 жыл бұрын

A little amusing, since the thin boring sound and lack of pretty much any timbre at all, as well as missing a huge amount of features even much older boards had natively - is one of the reasons it has been a complete failure for Korg and is being redesigned lol. Still. Each to his/her own.

@carloschafin1

4 жыл бұрын

@@ErraticFaith I'm curious what you would choice over the Prologue?

@ErraticFaith

4 жыл бұрын

It's a fair enough question. To start with, my issue with Korg is mainly that they come up with ridiculous excuses to remove features that for other companies are usually native. It might be Aftertouch. It might be the claim that we all want '37 keys' as with the new wavestate, it might just be filters and lfo. Being told that a future product 'might' be made 'later' depending on feedback, for twice the price - just to include some basic features... well I find that astounding honestly. I found the Prologue sound to be fairly un-analogue at the time, thats not to say it lacked appeal in some ways (simplicity of approach) but it was a close call for many with the Rev2 (Don't personally care for DSI). I held back, in the hope that Korg would fix the mess of prologue but instead they have kept pretty quiet and it is less promoted than Kronos 2 (nearly a decade old). So I find that quite troubling too. Novation would be the choice now I think. With aftertouch and a wider feature set than the Korg - but with a better sound as well.

@carloschafin1

4 жыл бұрын

@@ErraticFaith Did you demo the 8 or 16 voice? The 16 sounds much richer. Also, the point about the Novation is well taken, it's very nice. One feature of a knobby synth like the Prologue is it's use with Omnisphere which I use frequently. The integration is excellent thanks to Spectrasonics. I use it in that configuration most of the time.

I got a prologue 8 a few years ago and I can't complain. Something about mixing extremely digital sounding sounds and vintage analog sounds is pretty neat to me. But there's really something special with all the prophet/rev 2 oscillators that just sound so rich I just don't know why they sound so different from everything else out there.

I prefer having the mod and pitch wheels above the keys dimply for the space it saves. Helps out a lot having a condensed rig on stage.

Very nice, still a bit on the fence with the Prolouge, but this is helping me lean towards picking one up!

@quarkyzarky

6 жыл бұрын

Stupid move. Very very stupid.

@MarshalArnold

6 жыл бұрын

Just have been listening to more demos like this. Its helpfull because no shops near me will have one for me to get my hands on so in this case i have to rely on some youtube demos. I think it sounds pretty good from what I've heard, just the price point feels a bit high and want to see of the 3rd party developers deliver will deliver with the user-generated waves. That might push this thing to a level that makes the price tag worth it.

@shutterfilms7276

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, just decide on your own. See if it is what you really want and buy it if needed, don't let idiots like quarky stop you from doing what you want. It angers me to see assholes like him in communities that aren't at all aggresive.

@MarshalArnold

6 жыл бұрын

Exilion oh yeah no worries man! I get some of that in my comments from time to time. I tend to just ignore then usually. Just trolling for some reason, must not have anything better to do. They should be making some music instead of being dbags.

@shutterfilms7276

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly! :)

Well just bought the Pro 6 this week

Hahaha by far the funniest comparison i’ve seen!😂 And even a good one👍🏻

I'm definitely subbing because you are INSANE! lol

@MRTUNA

4 жыл бұрын

Bishop Eddie there is so much about this video I regret :p

@MRTUNA

4 жыл бұрын

Bishop Eddie there is so much about this video I regret :p

@BishopEddie5443

4 жыл бұрын

@@MRTUNA You're a perfectionist, but you revealed tons of info regardless and you're a great entertainer.

It’s down to preference but I didn’t get on with my Rev2. I sold it. I haven’t really replaced it but I do have a Minilogue XD and absolutely love it. I love the ability to add more stuff with the digital oscillator. I get a bit bored of just analogue sounds. Everything sounding like stranger things or blade runner. I’m now faced with wanting more polyphony. So I’ll add an XD polychined module. Or I’ll get a prologue 8.

Tuna you're awesome! Prologue

Prophet all the way bruv'. although the multi engine option is tempting

this is a dope synth

Seems like the 16 voice Prologue could be a good affordable ( much less than the P6 now ) companion to my complex 8 voice DSI Prophet Rev 2

Sweet

great vid - can the lfo modulate the shape of osc 3 to give digital demon goodness that you were doing around 3.45

The cat loved the Pedal thing!

I like this new format Mr Tuna...are you going to do system 8 vs prologue?

@MRTUNA

5 жыл бұрын

WHY I HAVENT I DONE SYSTEM-8 VS PROLOGUE YET!

"Blindly defend without Honour or Justice" haha! :)

Haven't tried it but at the moment the REV2 is my first pick.

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

Rev2 has complexity that blows both of these two out of the water. If you like building patches or intricate moving pads and evolving sounds Then the REV2 is a super sweet synth. Ive got the P12 and thats my go-deep synth, so I feel less obliged to get the REV2

Handsome Tuna

What about the Prophet v2 by Dave Smith? Better than the original one? I’m considering to get a v2 one. Thankyou for this review

Great review / comparison! I have a question about the Prologue; how much / how often do the oscillators go out of tune? Is that only in a cold / hot room? or always?

@MRTUNA

4 жыл бұрын

it is rare for me... usually only when it's in the warm up stage in the first 10-15 min. I had one voice go completely screwy on me last night after a few hours but a re-tune solved that problem fast. it's a non issue for me

@MRTUNA

4 жыл бұрын

my MKS-80 is faaaar more tempermental than the Prologue is

Thx I have Prologue 16 and yes, so amazing instrument. I was always looking for P6 however I have P5 from Arturia and cannot justify the price for P6. Recently I tried Trigon (as the best of breeds) however I was really sad as there is no vibe, no character, nothing and even my DeepMind12 sounds better. But still P6 is one I must try after your super demo - thx for that.

i hear myself when you talk about the Prophet 6 (I'd like to capitalize even the 6 in its name) but the prologue is awesome too

Thanks for the thorough comparison. Have to say I was initially dismissive when the Prologue came out as well, but it can definitely crank out some decent sounds. Love the Prophet 6 despite what some consider limitations for a modern synth, so I expect I'd find plenty to like in the Prologue as well. What I don't have is a bunch of space left for yet ANOTHER big keyboard, so my P6 module wins for me until they module-ize the Proglogue. And you are the lost voice-twin of a guy I used to work with in the late 90s (also from the "great white north").

I love my Prologue and my P6. Gotta say I prefer the tone of the Prologue. The Prologue sounds way more like a Roland synth than the P6 (to my ears its way closer to my Alpha Juno 1 sound).

Good video mr Tuna. Imma get the prolouge now.

@MRTUNA

5 жыл бұрын

You won't regret it!! Gonna go focus a little more on it today

No aftertouch or velocity is perfect 👍 Never had em on my old synths like my Jupiter 8 or Juno, or the OBXa I had on lease. So hows the tuning on your Prologue? Also I get ya on the four octaves .. its the sole reason I didn't get the P6. You got a nice collection of modern synths there 👍

@MRTUNA

5 жыл бұрын

catching up on some comments that I let get away... the tuning on the prologue is good, once its warmed up. I usually have to retune it once after a little use and then it's great for the rest of the session. One day I will own a Jupiter-8, I have made that promise to myself

Hahah now I definitely don’t know which synth to get both are pretty good in their own respect

Great video, man, but you didn't mention shape nobs on the prologue VCOs, those i think give you much more variations then the prophet's continuously waves

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

Paliev Ivan totally agree- went into this one super unscripted so it’s a lot of stumbling around and forgetting about things. Good point- there’s lots of variation I didn’t touch base on

I have a P6 and an OB6 I had a Prologue 16 for about a week and it did not sound as good. But the big problem was the Oscillators being out of tune and back in tune as you go up and down the keyboard. using the tune function did not help at all.

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

Mine only seemed to have that problem when I first started using it. I usually let it warm up for a good 10 minutes before I really get into playing it though. My Prophet6 had some tuning issues as well but that was in a much less controlled environment

The prologue will come out with new waves for the "user" section, so basically you'll have an infinite amount of waves at your disposal, especially cause they'll be wavetables!

@Kynect2Hymn

6 жыл бұрын

lol ok

@shutterfilms7276

6 жыл бұрын

Nope, just saying you seem to have a stick up your ass because of the Prologue, not saying it's any good! :)

@RoomAtTheTopStudio

6 жыл бұрын

Hold it right there. I've run out of popcorn and soda. I'll be back from the kiosk in a bit. This is a great show! lol

@BigBadWolf..............

6 жыл бұрын

quarkyzarky I see you on every prologue demo criticizing it. Why watch and comment if you hate it so much.

@MrLawrence0071

5 жыл бұрын

I actually prefer the Korg in some sounds and the P6 in others. The P6 has something to its sound I just don't like sometimes. I had the same with a P12 I had on demo. It's good there is so much variation in synths/sounds; so we can all get what we like most.

You could have placed the prophet 6 over the prologue on the stand and you would have avoided all that camera rotating... Anyway, thanks for the comparison!!!

I feel the same way about my Prophet 6. Check out the new Moog GrandMother man. I think it will be a very nice addition to your rig. The spring reverb sold me in real quick lol.

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

I am super sold on the Grandmother. I am firmly on the side of the fence that it looks awesome and has some great features. I've got the Sub37 and there is a Voyager in my area that I really realllllly really want to justify but haven't been able to figure out what synths I would sell to make it work. The Grandmother is definitely on my list though!

@moogish

6 жыл бұрын

I found a few things. The 1st 500 are being sold at GC for the MoogFest 2018. They were sold out in minutes lol. They will have another shipment in June as well as Sweetwater which is where I shop since 2015. But yea, the color scheme is a tad goofy but has that late 70's garage built synth junky vibe. I say jump the gun on the Voyager even if you do have a Sub37. I still wish I purchased a standard size Voyager. Instead I waited so long the only thing left was the XL. Funny store I made a backorder purchase of $5000 for the XL & a few weeks later I panicked & canceled the order. Less than 6 months later (shortly before December 2017) it dropped to $4000. This was a deal of a life time for me & I took it. So if you add up store price of Voyager and the 2 CV patchbay modules, it would be well over $4000. I'm very happy to have the builtin patchbay on the XL but it is the heaviest synth on the market. About the same weight as my retired Korg Triton 88.

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

I wish I had the XL so badly of all of them. That big bad mono is the coolest shit

@moogish

6 жыл бұрын

It really is the "holly grail" of all mono synths man. If I had a lottery ticket, it would be well spent on the Emerson modular lol. You can get a few well cared for used XL's on ebay and reverb.com under $4000 or just wait for Sweetwater to drop the price again. I was stewing on standard voyager & XL model for the longest time. Just recently I was stewing on PRS custom 22 & McCarty 594. I finally made the leap for McCarty 594. I use to have a custom 22 & traded off. Latest videos have my ears stuck on McCarty for sure. Research research research, it could just make a man loose his mind.

@moogish

6 жыл бұрын

UnderBridge Rock funny you mentioned 3 oct keybed. For me, I never wanted to step away from 3.5 oct keybed after realizing & owning the Model D, that extra half oct was & still is very useful. At this moment, I figure 2.5 oct is better than 2 like a sub smally I think lol.There’s just something about having that extra half oct down low, that is, if it’s not a full 5 oct. when I owned a mininova, I felt I needed more keys down low but no more than half oct. On my prophet 6, I actually feel I need 1 more octave up top. This seams to be in some cases. Since I first owned prophet 6, I just wanted to use it as my main analog polly synth. Can’t really do this with 4 oct but you can actually get by. I do complain a lot less now anyways lol. As far as 3 oct keybed go, I wish 44 key was more popular than 37. I know of only four 44 key (3.5 oct) synths out now, model d, voyager, pro 2 & mopho x4. All this being said, you may find yourself to give in if you want the synth bad enough, that’s if you’re still young. A lot of older cats just can’t break old habits.

Good to get a nice amount of fresh Tuna. This vid was a gas and informative. Cant seem to pull trigger on a top tier poly-synth.

Really appreciate your candour - brilliantly done. Still torn 👍👍

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

If you can afford it, you'd never regret the Prophet-6. It is just a beautiful instrument all the way around. Just typing makes me question it though because *man* that Prologue sounds great.

"...would blindly defend without honor or justice..." LMAO

I am so tempted to get the darn Prologue ....a really good deal would help.

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

Bob I. Gomez a really good deal is what got me mine and I am so glad I got it

@BobIGomez

6 жыл бұрын

That is how I got my M3...a Prologue demo at Sweetwater with a couple hundred off, is the best I have found. It is hard for me to tell about the Prologue since it has been such a long time since Korg has created an analog synth...looks like even the DSI stuff is losing value after a few years now that the market has opened up. Plus the P12 desktop etc are easily under $2k. peace.

@quarkyzarky

6 жыл бұрын

The korg sounds like trash though? don't buy a synth just cos it's cheap. Get a proper synth if you want analog get one that actually SOUNDS analog or you may just as well stick with a VA/Soft synth.

@shutterfilms7276

6 жыл бұрын

Oh look, a "that's a digital synth disguised as an analog synth" conspiracy theorist! Seriously though, sound is subjective and a "proper synth" isn't definitive.

@BobIGomez

6 жыл бұрын

yeah I think it would make an OK companion to the Pro6 but I am wondering if the Prologue is worth the price.

5:22 That is all.

Disregard that high noise floor, people!

30 year ago I wanted a Prophet 5 and a CP80 SO bad but couldn't afford it. I have the Prophet 6 now.

@SPAZZOID100

4 жыл бұрын

Not the same

Jesus i guess i wish i was lucky enough to have all these to make these comparisons.i am currently thinking the prophet 6 is the way i am going but it would be awesome to have the ob6 too

@embodie_breaks7089

4 жыл бұрын

what did you end up with. i have a prologue and am thinking of a summit, prophet6 or ob6.

@jasonmcgary

4 жыл бұрын

Beat Wilson the prophet 6 it is awesome

@embodie_breaks7089

4 жыл бұрын

@@jasonmcgary really eh? Over the ob?

10:10 laughing my ass off. Well played!

That does sound great. Does the prologue response to aftertouch if you're using an external keyboard?

@embodie_breaks7089

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Midi out aftertouch is there if needed.

How do you think it compares with Moog One... that has cheezy digital section.

A Prologue vs Rev 2 might have made more sense. But I understand its what gear you have thanks 🙏🏻

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

Vladimir Ussachevsky I kind of disagree I think the P6 is much more comparable, with similar architecture and vcos. The REV2 is much more complex and utilizes dcos (not that that’s a maker/breaker)

I am not a professional keyboardist so therefore I cannot justify spending 2 grand on a korg. I practise my keyboards everyday and tend to pick up bargain desktops like a Peak or Virus C. I did breakdown and picked up a mint an1x the other day, it was only $600. This is enough to keep me busy and the Gas away for quite a while. But awesome demo, appreciated.

@ericfricke4512

5 жыл бұрын

you can get the 8 voice used for 1 grand

They are all good synths it'a a matter of preference and price. Personally I prefer warm sounds so I like the Prologue a little bit more and it's cheaper than the Prophet. But If I could I would buy all of them really lol.

Doesn't the Prologue have a wave shape knob for each individual wave? The Minilogue does so I'm sure the pro does too.

@MRTUNA

5 жыл бұрын

yes it does, I just gloss over most things because I went unscripted and it was easy to miss a lot :P

I just got the 8 voice version a few weeks. I know it's limited in comparison to the Rev2, but it just sounds so damn good. Some of what you were playing sounds finished already. I'm a black belt rapper, a purple belt synthesist and an orange belt piano player. You make me want to play chords better. Thanks.

it sounds GREAT!!! of course it does... because its drenched in reverb. even a free VA like Synth1 sounds that good drenched in verb.

@MRTUNA

5 жыл бұрын

but what a quality reverb!

@layzer80

5 жыл бұрын

i used to own a Kawai K4, it had some of the thinnest, shortest compressed rom samples, but boy did the reverb make the pads sound HUGE.. haha

Great review! The P-6 and OB-6 sound awsome but what kills me is the envelope behavior. The EG doesn’t reset to 0 when cycling through the voices so you always end up with a truncated attack phase. In other words if you have a sound with a slow attack it sounds like the attack is set to zero, which kills pad sounds or anything with a nuanced transient. Changing the envelope setting never worked for me, this is why I sold my PolyEvolver and Prophet 8. Have you Noticed this? I actually prefer the envelope behavior on the Minilogue/Prologue which many people dislike because it preserves the transient/attack phase since the envelopes reset when a voice is triggered.

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

Frank Manhands I only was just coming to terms with that this afternoon after spending some serious time with the OB and The P6. I kind of like the way 6 voices interact with that eg behaviour, but it’s not always the best for the situation at hand. The Juno 106 works this way too but I’ve grown to appreciate it. Being a little spoiled with synths it’s not a maker breaker for me but I’m really going to be conscious of that aspect in the future.

@benhoughtonmusic

6 жыл бұрын

have you tried setting the key assign mode on your P6 or OB6? There's a specific setting for envelope retrigger. Page 45 of the P6 manual, i just had a look

@FrankManhands

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I tried that setting and it had no effect. I think it’s a matter of understanding the envelope behavior and programming around it. DSI makes great synths and it wouldn’t stop me from buying another. I didn’t connect with the P8 or PE but the P12 , Rev 2 and P6 are much more refined, and I really enjoyed playing them.

I was a naughty boy and picked up a prologue 16 a few months ago. Underrated synth, especially for the money. "Tuning gate" is probably to thank for that, but it is fixed now. Good comparison with the P6! I think sound wise they are in the same league, but I do prefer the prologue's filter, it is miles ahead. You can get really wild! Also the digital engine and patch stacking makes things deeper in a different way than a mod matrix. Both cool synths. The prophet holds up to its name and cheers to korg for doing something original yet still classic feeling. (100% on the fingerprint problem with the korg, I embrace it but it really bugged me at first. Even a microfiber cloth takes some elbow grease to clean the thing up.)

@Screaming-Trees

9 ай бұрын

I'd say the Prologue for me as well. It comes down to the combination of features, sound and price. Prologue sounds great, offers 16 voices instead of 6 and has a 5 octave keyboard for, well nowdays less than a thousand dollars which is crazy. 16 voice analogue for under a thousand dollars is really great value. If you buy new it's at $1700 now I think while the P6 trades at $3500 new. Kudos to Sequential they make great stuff but at these price point it is a bit hard to swallow. Both synths are fantastic and sound great but one of them is less than half the price and offers, well, more. And I think the P6 loses just on that alone.

Looks like P6 has Yamaha FS keyboard assembly used in all Yamaha and Korg synths since M1 and DX7-II

hi, As it seems you own all the cool synth, could you buy a REV 2 if it's not already done ? Because I'd love to see a no friendly comparison between Prologue 16 and Rev 2 16. regards Ps : of course, or you can just give me your thoughts about it ! ;-)

Thank you for this great video. Is the P6 bitimbral like the prologue? Cheers!

@MRTUNA

4 жыл бұрын

Martin Debaere that is a smart distinction to make! Just monotimbral. P12 is bitim tho

I have a minilogue xd, and keep looking at the prologue as a "move up". Play the xd for hours and hours at a time. I really hate that it doesn't have an onboard sequencer. I do love that Korg sound though.

@MRTUNA

7 ай бұрын

such an underrated synth the prologue! It might be a big sell but once you get a dedicated sequencer for all your gear you'll never use a built-in one again!

Let's be real they sound different and at the end of the day it's a matter of preference. I personally like the sound of the prophet much more but some of those growls on the prologue sound great too.

Hey at 1:20 you mention that the oscillators on your old minilogue went out of tune. I have a Minilogue right now and it'll start in tune and within 5 minutes (or less) of being on a unison mode, I'll get nasty out of tune notes, that's not coming from the detune feature of the unison. Is that a defect with Korg synths, or is that supposed to happen with synthesizers? Thanks in advanced.

@alphanumeric1529

6 жыл бұрын

Gotta be a defect.

@alexanderreyes6874

6 жыл бұрын

I loved the Prologue so much I was thinking about getting the Mini used since so many people are selling it. I hope this tuning issue isn't common. The Prologue has some self tuning before it fully turns on.

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

sometimes I had to tune my minilogue 2-3 times in the first 20 minutes to make sure it was in tune. it would drift out pretty bad over the higher octaves. After sufficient time though it was usually pretty steady. The Prologue appears to be stabler than the minilogue, but I kind of like the genuine analog tuning variance that you get that way

Great video....I have the Prologue 8 and a Prophet Rev 2 16 and am constantly blown away by the sonic bliss from the Prologue....it’s absolutely an addiction for me. I really like the ease that you can sculpt motion driven patches . The sound is completely complementary with the Prophet ...just has its own sound and it’s really really beautiful. Thanks for the tactile description along with the comparison you obviously are a great musician who appreciates each instrument for their individual tones and individuality. I don’t want my Prologue to sound like every other synth in my studio....what’s the point then..... I could care less about how many filters etc.....sound sculpting is just the start for me...I want to cut tracks and play out. Both the Korg and the Prophet sound killer in live play. Also Korg has not yet released their programming kit where 16 wave programs and 16 modulations can be downloaded....this will open up the Kong’s architecture in share format and is future thought for users. Thanks

@werekill

6 жыл бұрын

Robert stepan I'm personally debating between the rev2 and the Prologue, and I'm unable to demo in person. If you had to pick only one of your pair to have, which would you personally go for? Since it sounds like you have a good bit of experience with both.

@robsanchezaus

4 жыл бұрын

Werekill - which dud you go with? I had a Rev 2, but the sound of the Prologue is way nicer to me.

I just joined the world of synths, with my first one, the prologue 8. I am getting so into it, that im now considering upgrading to the 16. do you think it would be worth the extra money, do you think the 8 is close to as good for a new player, thanks :)

@embodie_breaks7089

4 жыл бұрын

I did the upgrade. I had a 8 and went to a 16. When using the sub(2 layers) it sounds more killer as well as unison. The compressor is warm. Im not sure it its overly worth it for you, but i do like the extra keys, compressor and voices. I may end up selling mine in the near future though since i do not have a ton of room, and was thinking of an OB-6 or Summit. Not sure though. The Prologue sounds great! My go to synth, its will be hard to let it go if i ever end up doing so.

@mulkytool

4 жыл бұрын

@@embodie_breaks7089 thanks, ya i really like it :) I am really starting to make a lot of layered timbre sounds, having 8 keys during that time would be nice, even though 4 is usually plenty. Good chance I will upgrade at some point though :)

I have a minilogue xd (baby prologue) so ill get the P6

Tried a deepmind12? How does it stand up to prologue and prophet, Deepmind it my first proper synth...it hasn't disappointed😊

@SPAZZOID100

6 жыл бұрын

Inky Blue not bad for it’s price but not in the same league.

@quarkyzarky

6 жыл бұрын

LOL. DM12 is all an FX box with a very poor synth engine, that said I prefer its tone to the Prologue as I hate the Prologues cheap/coated/VA type sound. But it's not even fit to be in the same room as the Prophet 6 (DM12 nor Prologue) both will cheapen the experience, Prophet 6 is a king of modern synths and in actual music it'll show up a DM12 and esp Prologue pretty fast.

@InkyDaCaT

6 жыл бұрын

quarkyzarky yes i do understand effects play too much of a part on dm but hey cheap synthish girl..what can I do lol!

@noiselabproject9659

6 жыл бұрын

I`ve found the DM12 to be amazing for ambient, pad, FX, soundscapes, noisescapes due to the amazing mod matrix and FX engine. On the other hand if you strip out all FX, learn it`s functions and perhaps utilise more than one voice of polyphony you can do a suprisingly solid bass sound for example that you won`t find in it`s presets. As I`ve been finding out in recent times it really does pay to know as much about synthesis as possible to extract the most from any gear

@InkyDaCaT

6 жыл бұрын

Noiselab Project oh now that is very helpful....because bass is what im lacking!! So will try! Thanks very much!

Good to see Dan Stevens playing music.

@MRTUNA

2 жыл бұрын

I actually really think I look like him too

I've got both (one stacked above the other) but if I had to pick one it would be the Prophet 6 by a landslide. Greatest electronic keyboard of any type I've ever owned or played.

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I was on my P6 today and it was everything. Although The OB6 might be my top top favorite just in the sense that it sounds unlike anything else I have. If I only had to have 1 synth and 1 synth only, it would be the P6 ....or maybe the P12

*fizzes and sputters uncontrollably...* "sounds you could never get with the prophet 6"...so true!

The Prophet-6 has a wonderful filter and sound and the presets just don't seem to do justice to the beauty of its filter, especially the low pass which is fantastic. The programmers must have got too used to harsh synth sounds. I've had the P6 for 4 months now and I'm getting to realize its depth. I can't resist it now. I also really like the feel of the controls. Four octaves is a bummer though; the P6 sound justifies six really, like a T-8.

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

I would have much preferred a 5-octave keybed as well... I was thinking they might come out with a 'Prophet-61" version at NAMM this year (I was really hoping they wouldn't because I can't afford any more of this); but I agree, the P6 is best when you really get deep with the filter and find those sweet spots the presets seems to gloss over a bit.

Thanks, Dude! I was considering the Prophet 6 but you just saved me like $800 bucks. The Prologue sounds so much better!

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

Glad to help my friend!

@johnadams5489

5 жыл бұрын

BrainToMush The Prologue sounds OK. But a Prophet 6 it is not. Buy what you can afford and get the most out of it.

@johnadams5489

5 жыл бұрын

Mr Tuna Korg recently dropped the price of the Prologue to $1700 MAP, I have seen them selling for $1500 on Reverb.com. The Prologue sounds different than the DSI synths. Saying one is "better" than the other doesn't work. What one person believes songs great, other people may not be as impressed. Price is not the common denominator, its about the sound, buy what you like.

Korg made aftertouch before dave smith, how it?

Man, what do you do for a living to be able to afford so much awesome gear? Great comparison video, btw.

@MRTUNA

6 жыл бұрын

Ethan Edwards I don’t make a lot of money really- I work at a canoe and kayak shop and it’s a cool gig. But I only buy good deals and my cost of living is very very low as I have lived in a motor home for the last 3 years. I make a lot of sacrifice to be able to justify it all but I’ll pair down one day when I’m ready to have a little less fun

@ethanedwards9136

6 жыл бұрын

MR TUNA Music woah, thanks for the reply. Keep on keeping on!

@alphanumeric1529

6 жыл бұрын

TMI dude.

@davebellamy4867

6 жыл бұрын

Minimilist lifestyle allows maximalist synths!

@mrburns366

6 жыл бұрын

How does he afford it? Because he isn't wearing a wedding ring. 😂

is that a Mrs. or MS, 2000 above that prologue there? Have you considered clearing some space on your stand? If yes to the latter two Q, let me know how to spell sell on a price tag.

@MRTUNA

3 жыл бұрын

zero cool I made the mistake of selling an MS2000 once and I promised I’d never do it again! It’s a mainstay in my studio for sure!