This video summarizes perfectly why I should get rid of my projector and get a big OLED TV instead

@EK6O3O

3 ай бұрын

to each their own, i like having my 140" display and my pockets aren't deep enough for Samsung's The Wall...

@dogbreath6974

3 ай бұрын

@@EK6O3O Not everyone has room for a 140" screen. You can buy a 100"+ 4k tv for just over £2000, which is cheaper than this setup. Projectors are great but the fact is TV's are getting bigger and cheaper. When I bought my first Projector, a large TV was 65", now that's the norm.

@Tensho_C

25 күн бұрын

That's my first choice as well, if not because I am only staying for a few years for university

@michael-4k4000

8 күн бұрын

Get an OLED

You just saved me thousands mate; thanks for the thorough video!

Wow that was a lot of effort to show all those different permutations and tell us about them. Thanks!

Have been waiting for this review for sometime. Using DiY cheap alr curtain and have been holding on to get a premium one. Thanks mate.

@TrendingReviews

9 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Good review! Thanks

Awesome review. Like the comparison between screens.

@TrendingReviews

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Wow, apparently motorized tension is a must for for short throw projectors. I originally wrote a comment trolling you asking if you hit your white screen with a baseball bat to make it that wavy. Then I realized short throw projectors are way more attected by any waves in the screen. Yikes. Well, i definitely learned something today. Also, i never knew there were floor mounted projectors screens. Combining the short throw projector and floor mounted screen into one box base is awesome! Great video

@TrendingReviews

16 күн бұрын

Thank you for sharing!

I have an older Epson 3LCD short throw projector l, would I still benefit from using an ALR screen?

Simply put this grey screen sends back less light BUT 100% of that signal is polarised that makes image so vivid and properly coloured. We are only loosing reflected distorted light that wasn't straight and was introducing blurring. Less is more 💥

@OMGWTFLOLSMH

6 ай бұрын

*losing

How do you think, will ALR screen improve my home theatre experience, if i am using not laser, but DLP projector? (Xgimi RS Pro 2)

Great review! I too have a Screeneo U5, but struggling with where/how to place it. May I ask, where did you get your custom furniture? :)

@TrendingReviews

10 ай бұрын

Thank you! I put the links to the custom furniture on my other review of it here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eml3qM2GpJaek8o.html

Nice review. Could you also share information on the cabinet where you placed UST?

@TrendingReviews

10 ай бұрын

Thank you! You can see it in my other video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eml3qM2GpJaek8o.html

So what gray paint will work best?

Luv the techinal details in rhe video👍🏽

Thanks for the demo! Super helpful. I'm looking for a cabinet that can conceal my UST (and that doesn't cost as much as the VIVIDSTORM Monte Carlo). Do you of any?

@TrendingReviews

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for the comment and glad the video was helpful! I was searching around for quite a while looking for a suitable UST cabinet, but I struggled to find any decent ones that were reasonably priced too, so the only option I had to keep coming back to was the VIVIDSTORM one. There seems to be a big gap in the market for these types of cabinets tbh. Not sure if you're based in the UK, but a non-motorised version I found was this: www.richersounds.com/kinetik-klif-ust1cs-soft-black.html

in my personal opinion the sixe and brightness of a ust projector is so mind blowing the alr screen isnt necessary until it redues significantly in price. for context i have been using the xgimi aura 4k straight on to a wall that is painted grey using a high gloss black mixed with a matt white. had this set up for 8 months as my only tv. everyone is blown away. i pull the curtains at the same times of day i had to with my old tv and the size and quality make up for any lack of brightness in the daytime. paint costs about $35 and is already a significant upgrade to a white wall.

@TrendingReviews

10 ай бұрын

Thats a really great choice. To be honest, if I had a large enough empty wall space, I would look at doing something like this too, without having to spend a LOT of money purely for an ALR screen.

@matteorac

10 ай бұрын

thank you

@vsvinuraj1982

10 ай бұрын

I used to project to white wall and my only concern was the wall irregularities getting enhanced by UST.. otherwise it was great and not limited to any screensize...

@onedayagogo

4 ай бұрын

@michaelt8682 hmmm. very interesting research man. very good ! i'm really diggin the experimental aspect of this sport/hobby ! please may i ask, what was the approximate ratio of gloss black to matt white, and is it oil or water-based paints ?

@michaelt8682

4 ай бұрын

@@onedayagogo I'm afraid I couldn't tell you off hand. my ADHD brain can't remember! but I did several ratios and painted some ply with the different paint ratios and tested them with a projector. it was just trial and error really. however I would say you use more black than you Imagine, and my wall is *quite* a dark grey

Hi, do you think I really need a skreen for the wemax go advance ?? the $20 portable , or it is not difference with the white wall ??

how were you able to square off the projection on the screen

Thanks for the very informative review mate!. Would you be kind enough to share the source from where did you get that cabinet that encloses the projector and the floor-rising ALR screen frame nicely?

@TrendingReviews

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment bud! Yes sure - you can find them in the description of my other video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eml3qM2GpJaek8o.html

@mzeeshan

10 ай бұрын

@@TrendingReviews Thanks!

I'm curious what the model is of the media center furniture piece you have that allows for the UST and the screen to be so seamless?

@TrendingReviews

9 ай бұрын

I've added the link to it in the description :)

Good review. Not blown up with a lot of distracting non relevant information. This is the way reviews should be done! Comparison and facts.

@TrendingReviews

11 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! I always aim to do straight to the point reviews 😊

Thanks.

Thanks for this. I'm potentially looking at a similar setup but am finding it impossible to see this kind of thing with my own eyes.. Did you go somewhere to see the screen in a demo before you bought or was it a gamble on your part?

@TrendingReviews

11 ай бұрын

I saw a couple of videos on KZread to convince me about the difference it would make, but I didn't see it in person myself, so it was a mix of being confident based on other users reviews that it works much better, and a bit of a gamble too, if that makes sense?

@stevieboy1984

11 ай бұрын

@@TrendingReviews yeah makes sense, thanks. It's a bit overwhelming with some of the screen options out there, frensel ALR vs lenticular CLR etc

Great Vdo..

So...I hope the guy at Best Buy didn't tell me wrong. I have a 110" Black Diamond slate. It will look OK with the short throw projector, right? Teaming it up with an Epson LS800.

hey everyone, love the video, so I recently had the idea of getting one of these motorized screens as a window cover or blind, reasoning is I have a very large (107" wide x 62" high and the bottom of the window is 6 feet of the ground. To buy a motorized blind I was looking at around $500 vs buying one of these screens for $375. No I was wondering if anyone has had any issues using it as a window covering?

Hi i have question, could you recomend me some ALR screen material from aliexpress? I dont need electric screen i will biuld frame and i just need material. Thank you for help :) Or please tell me on what kind of specification should have ALR screen material?

I have a 55“ OLED TV for the daylight and a 200£ Projector for sports in die evening- works fine

I believe the window behind the white screen is what's causing the distortion. The pressure cause the window isn't completely sealed is slightly moving the fabric, not to mention the heat variations. Either that or you intentionally have a fan on to move the fabric cause you can definitely make out the fabric moving in the darker portions of the video.

@TrendingReviews

Ай бұрын

Window is closed and air tight, and definitely no fans on in the room. I think because of it free hanging from the ceiling mount causes it to move slightly, but I highly doubt any of these are causes. I have used many projectors (including laser ones) on this screen with no distortion - you can see this from my many projector reviews in a playlist on my channel.

Thank you so much for this presentation. I wish i could offer you a beer. Pascal from Belgium

@TrendingReviews

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

Unfortunately I don't have a dedicated home theater room so I have to make the best of it. For day and evening viewing I mostly use my Sony 85" TV. There are nights when I want to be immersed I then push a button on my remote, my 120" motorized screen will drop down in front of my Sony TV to enjoy.

To be pedantic, that's a CLR screen, it rejects light from the ceiling/above. An ALR screen rejects light from everywhere except the projector. ALR for UST projectors are few, but the Formovie fresnel screen is actually ALR. ALR screens also exist for normal projectors and are beneficial, but they're a little less effective since they can't reject light from above. CLR screens that aren't motorized can be had for $450 or so, Wemax makes affordable ones that aren't as good as the best, but vastly better than a matte white.

Where did you get the projector cabinet from

@TrendingReviews

8 ай бұрын

I've got the link in the description.

Gain is meaningless when projecting images. What's important is reflected light into a specific viewing angle. Ambient light rejection is the flip side of incident light reflection. Good matte white is not cheap It's a medicre projection surface for a seated audience because it scatters more than 90% of the incident light outside the viewing area. Glass beaded surface screens were reflective and returned light very close to the path of incidence, making them more efficient but with a limited viewing angle. ALR is a compromise between these two. Examples of more affordable ALR are SCREENPRO fixed frame 92" T Prism UST $800 aliexpress SCREENPRO100" Motorized Floor Self-Rising 8K ALR Screen ~$1100

I'm wondering if a laser projector with a good screen could be used for outdoor advertising during the daylight hours instead of a digital LED video wall/screen/display. Would it be bright enough in daylight/sunlight. Not that we have much of that in the UK lol

@TrendingReviews

4 ай бұрын

Possibly - but it would have to be a 4K native Triple Laser UST projector with a very high brightness level, but even then, it would be hard to find one thats suitable for outdoor conditions, because you risk getting dust and debris go into the projector, so probably won't be recommended. In direct sunlight (with what ever little we get in the UK), it could be hard to see still, especially from a distance.

Can I check what's the cabinets model with the build in alr projector and ist pojector

@TrendingReviews

11 ай бұрын

Cabinet model is called the VIVIDSTORM Monte Carlo. Is that what you mean? Sorry if I misunderstood the question

@senolkaratas3170

10 ай бұрын

​@@TrendingReviewsIt works too loud.😔

Do you think I could attach it to my impact screen for hitting golf balls or would it still get ripped you think? I’m guessing it’s thin but idk

@TrendingReviews

6 ай бұрын

If would get damaged I think. It's not made for having golf balls hit it so I couldn't recommend that at all.

@thedayhayfilms

6 ай бұрын

@@TrendingReviews like hole and marks or just holes because I could attach it flush with a impact screen and prevent holes but not marks

Can this (ALR) screen also be operated with a conventional projector? (e.g. HD29He)

@TrendingReviews

3 ай бұрын

Yep, I see why not!

Your room is having a huge affect on your image quality. Even when you close your window blinds there is still a lot of light in your room. Painted walls no matter how dark will still reflect light back onto your screen.

@TrendingReviews

10 ай бұрын

yeah I think because I showcased it still during the day time when there is still light peaking through the shutter cracks, it might not be the best, but at night time, it definitely is noticeable difference

good

I am still trying to figure out what kind of screen to get for my JMGO N1 Ultra. Don’t think a screen like this would work since that projector is meant to sit on a table, chair or even the floor for optimum viewing from at least 8-14 feet away. Any suggestions?

@justinbeamon6624

9 ай бұрын

Vividstorm sells ALR screens for long throw projectors, they call it Obsidian. That would work for the JMGO.

@YZKMNY

8 ай бұрын

As reviewed from a channel called TheHookUp, the N1 Ultra produces significant laser speckle on ALR Screens or any non-white screen for that matter. He said that the N1Ultra performs best either being projected into a matte white wall, or a 1.0 gain white acoustically transparent screen. I'm considering buying the N1U for myself. How's your experience with it been? Have you noticed any of the reported laser speckle?

@Lafiro

8 ай бұрын

@@YZKMNY For now, I have only used my N1U outside in my garage against a white wall. Its been awesome. Yes there is some laser speckle, but not much. I mean watching it against a painted wall is absolutely not the right thing to do, but it works for now since it is so portable. This winter though I may just get a proper screen to watch movies in the house in another room.

@YZKMNY

8 ай бұрын

@@Lafiro Just ordered mine from Aliexpress at a discount. Not as low as kickstater's price but low enough for me to afford it. Excited to see what it brings to the space!

@Lafiro

8 ай бұрын

@@YZKMNY Link please! And link to that Kickstarter?

Would the picture not be better by using a CLR screen?

@TrendingReviews

10 ай бұрын

Both would offer good picture, but CLR is designed for light sources coming from the ceiling above, like skylights for example, however, they're very good at absorbing light completely, up to 95% even, so they may be slightly better than ALR. But I haven't tested on specifically myself.

ALR is the bomb - also STLP is where its at. I am a commercial advertising and promo film maker and once we changed over to both of these we were stunned - you can watch them in daylight - the white screen is so washed out in comparison.

@TrendingReviews

10 ай бұрын

Yes totally agree! Thank you for sharing your experience!

@SirS001

10 ай бұрын

what is STLP?

@nelsonclub7722

10 ай бұрын

@@SirS001 Short Throw Laser Projector - but I meant USTLP - Ultra Short Throw!!

Wouldnt you buy ‘tab tensioned’ screen for motorised type? 🤔

@TrendingReviews

3 ай бұрын

This was the only option for the screen to fit the cabinet

That screen is insanely wrinkled wow. My motorized 125" elite screen non tab tension doesnt have waves like that.

Information in this video is wrong unfortunately. ALR screens do not give you a brighter image, they actually have the opposite effect. They reject light from above (ceiling lights usually) and are innately gray to help with the black levels in a moderately lit room. If you are in a moderately dark room you should use a neutral gain screen as it will increase the lifespan of your projector since you can use a lower brightness setting. In extremely dark rooms or when using a LED projector you should use a higher gain screen. ALR screens in a dark environment will have less performance than a standard projector screen. the contrast on these low gain screens will be worse in such a situation as compared to a standard screen. The viewing angles will be slightly be worse. Color accuracy will be slightly worse as well. ALR screens are useful in the circumstance they were made for, however they are not a replacement for standard white screens which perform better in darker rooms and theaters. The white screen in your video is made from cloth and from the looks of it polyester based, of course it will not look good as compared to a screen that cost anywhere from 5-10 times to make.

ALR is not worth the extra premium we pay. In a dark room white screen aint that bad

@TrendingReviews

11 ай бұрын

Its worth it for a lot of day time viewing

@oblivion_007

11 ай бұрын

@@TrendingReviews i mostly watch movies @ night. So white screen is more than enough. ALR screens cost is triple that of a good white screen

@bust0ne

10 ай бұрын

​@@oblivion_007alr screens help with nighttime viewing as well. Less light is being reflected back to your walls/ceiling etc

@oceanyt8

9 ай бұрын

Yes it definitely helps alot. Cant just always watch night time.

@justinbeamon6624

9 ай бұрын

True but with a UST you need a tensioned screen at least.

Do I need to purchase a 3D modulator system in front of the projection lens? We are a manufacturer. You can come to us with discounted prices!

Good video I will go with Matt white screen because I am poor LOL

ALR best?

How about comparing it to a 1300 led tv?

@jamieniche

8 ай бұрын

1300 is just the screen, projector probably around 3000. So 4300 buys a very big TV.

Why can’t someone just get a screen and paint it vanta black?

Я совсем с вами не согласен, если только днём, разница видно, но днём я всегда смотрю телевизор, проектор же, это целая церемония , как у катайцев чаепитие, его нужно смотреть в темноте, а в тёмной комнате, и на обоях проектор прекрасно показывает 😉👍

Movies are 50% visuals and 50% audio and there are occasions when the audio out does the visuals. BTW that's putting it politely

@reallywontsufferfools1620

10 ай бұрын

NO POINT IN HAVING CRAP VISUAL AND GREAT AUDIO , BTW I WAS BEING VERY POLITE.

@reallywontsufferfools1620

10 ай бұрын

MY POINT BEING if i spend 3500 on a ust i want tv visuals to a reasonable point , audio can be improved at a reasonable cost

@totalplonker824

10 ай бұрын

didn't say anything about crap visuals! I'm actually similar to you but I prefer to take advantage of both. The thing is going with a short throw projector limits ones audio. No placement for the most important channel! The centre channel handles up to 90% of audio, including nearly all of the dialogue. "Sound is half the movie our ears lead our eyes to where the story lives" With that being said.. take nothing away from your from your marvellous presented video. Great speaking voice.

I started off on s White screen and later just used my white wall lol it worked better but later i just used black screen and it was best choice no doubt

Your matte white screen isn't mounted level. That's why it's wavy.

That ALR fabric. Looks suspiciously like the reflactive strip fabric they put on hi vis clothing. Aslo sold as progector screens on ebay for 20 quid 🤣.

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Yeah... those prices are beyond outrageous even for the most basic UST ALR screen. Totally not worth using a projector as a day time TV IMO. I'd much rather stick with a short/long throw projector and a basic screen in the DARK. Which projectors have always done their best at. Regular TVs for day time and Projectors for night viewing.

No way I could pay 1300 for a screen just can see where the money is in the material to warrant the the cost

@justinbeamon6624

9 ай бұрын

All CLR UST screens are about that price for that size. All with the sawtooth pattern that is.

My mind is boggling

It works too loud.😔

It's a scam. You can get a TV for that $$$$$$

They both sucks in daylight