SAFE availability is helping our hobby expand at an amazing rate. I'm in year 3 of the hobby at age 55. I tried to get in the hobby 20 years ago. That lasted less than 3 minutes (and 2 planes) due to the learning curve being too steep(and too expensive) for most beginners. Now in 3 years I have over 30 aircraft ranging from 800mm trainers to 1700mm warbirds and several edf planes. I keep SAFE programmed on almost all of them. And it allows spreading your comfort zone to windy days and learning to fly in crosswinds. Keep supporting its use and help all of your club members get comfortable with it. Thanks for the video.

@Jays_rcgarage

Жыл бұрын

AMAZING ! Thanks for this comment 👌🏼

@txdave2

9 ай бұрын

Totally agree. I'm in year 2 and I'm 68 years old. I flew "full scale" planes for 50 years until my health became an issue. SAFE and Reflex stabilization has allowed me to progress rapidly and enjoy a wide variety of planes. I'm even flying some 3D foamies these days.

Got into the RC Plane hobby about 3 years ago at age 75. I would not be in the hobby today if it were not for SAFE/auto leveling technology. The technology has saved me from many crashes. I can flip the "B" switch faster than most pilots a fraction of my age. 😊

I love these ar630s. A bit pricy but the best recovery system I know of. Of course you need a spektrum transmitter (it may be possible to work with open or edge on a radiomaster if you are an electronics genius). The key is to designate a 3 way switch for F mode. In position 1 you inhibit safe and as3x. In position 2 you inhibit safe but activate as3x. In position 3 activate as3x and safe. I leave the factory settings for safe as they are. It will bring any plane to level in a panic situation or if you want to fly in safe allows enough banking to make turns etc but not so much that you can go out of control. The gyro (a3x) helps keep plane steady in wind. Safe levels the plane in a panic situation and also limits bank angles if you are just flying around. Also importantly, you can assign as3x adjustment capability, to a knob. If you turn the knob down all of the way you have minimum as3 x (no a3sx) and up all the way the maximum possible as3x (as set during set up if you don't stick with the default setting sensitivity amount). Thus you can make as3x adjustments on any particular day based on wind conditions using the knob. If you assign as3x to the knob you really only need to use a two way switch. In position one you activate as3x and inhibit safe. You then control the amount of as3x using the knob (knob all the way down if you don't want any as3x thus eliminating the need for a seperate switch position). In position 2 activate safe and as3x).

12 yrs in the hobby GYROS ARE GREAT. Safe especially, when your doing a 3d maiden flight and lose orientation, flick the switch regain control then turn back off. Or maybe you are experienced and just want a dumbed down relaxing flight. Either way it's better to have one on board than not! Great Video brother your a true inspiration!

Good video for explaining Safe mate. Not many out there that will explain this or go through the details of setting it up. I used Safe to get confident. I have Safe in all my planes from my 90mm F22, 80mm Futura and all my warbirds. I must add Safe flying numbs the feel of the sticks. Full push will not give the full movement. When out of safe that full movement will be alot more sensitive and thorough with the movements and result on the planes actions. So basically do not let muscle memory set in with Safe. Use it to get confident but get out of it as soon as you can. Safe is a fantastic panic button if u lose orientation or blinded by the sun. However Safe will not protect u from a stall. U still need throttle esp on the turns and if u do stall from slow speed, switching to Safe whilst the planes tumbling will not rescue it even if pushing the throttle as Safe is trying to level it and ul look like a leaf falling. U really need to be diving to gain speed to gain lift and fly out of the stall.

@Jays_rcgarage

Жыл бұрын

Love this! I’m eventually getting that 90mm F22 and will be adding safe. All good info for anyone who reads this comment !

I think the best way to learn is by using a powered glider Mine was pretty big, like 1.5m, and it was pretty slow so controlling it was easy (i forgot the name of it) After 31 crashes, it's still flying well, and i customized it a little so now the full elevator can rotate Edit: another way of learning is using a rc flight sim. I recommend Picasim because it's free, can run on potato pc, and the flight physics are great. Edit 2: i remember the name of my first plane, it's an Eflite Conscendo 1.5m (not the evolution one) I'm french so sorry for my bad english

I know I've saved so much money thanks to having safe 👍

Wow! Just what I was looking for

I started flying RC planes a couple of years ago. Initially I crashed a lot and destroyed a bunch of planes. I was about to give up then I bought the E-Flite Valiant with SAFE select. This changed everything. I've progressed to the point I rarely need SAFE, but if I do, I use it. It has allowed me to learn without destroying a lot of expensive planes. Makes common sense to me. Anti-gyro snobs need to be more open minded. Isn't this hobby supposed to be about having fun?

@Jays_rcgarage

9 ай бұрын

Fly what makes you happy 🤝 .. I loved my valiant !!!!

Thank you for this excellent video! Very helpful!

All three are awesome great planes, The T-28 is my fav along with my other T-28s by fare one of the best planes I love to fly!!👍👍 Oh btw thanks for showing how to setup as3x and safe and programming the receiver that was AWESOME!! Excellent job on all 3!!!👍👍

@Jays_rcgarage

Жыл бұрын

Ayyy!! Thanks for watching 😎 Appreciate you!

Great video and a life saver for anyone who wants to learn how! I learned way back in 1980 with the help of a good teacher at my flying field but I didn't fly any for about 30 plus years and recently started back with the help of as3x ! I can fly better now than I ever could back then! I'm even using it in gas and glow powered planes now!

Thanks mate just got my fms p-51d big beautiful doll am using fsi6 and fms v2

Thank you very much. Simple and straight. I have been using Spektrum since I started 2 years ago. I tried to install and program an AR631 into a T28 1.2 m using NX8 forward programing. All the signatures of success were there. The first flight went about 10 seconds ended in disaster. If I try this process again I will give the reflex a second look. Again, thank you 👍.

@Jays_rcgarage

Жыл бұрын

Good Luck!

Absolutely great video. I've been asking around about putting a gyro or SAFE in a plane I like, a FlightLine Hawker Sea Fury 1200mm and I get a bunch of people telling me not to do it and to start with a high wing flyer. I think theres still a lot of older people out there that look down on those that would like to use technology like SAFE in a plane they like, not everyone wants to start with a high wing.

The lemon Rx plus is a great tool for that also! I've got one of those in my eflite trojan 1.1 and it does basically the same thing!

Thanks bro, I recently bought a nitro 5ft wingspan plane and my heart would break if I crash it on some silly shit. Now I can fly with confidence!

1. Here’s the problem I have with Forward Programming. Spektrum has you pick the GAIN channel in the first time AS3X setup, not the “Flight Modes” (FM) channel. They don’t have you set up the FM channel until you do the first time SAFE setup. What if you don’t want SAFE mode? Then what? Will a newbie figure out how to set up the FM channel? 2. The DX6 and NX6 don’t have a knob. How are they going to control the AS3X gains? Without the knob, the gains will likely be zero, but could be 50% or 100% of setting because the receiver defaults to adjustable gain. No gain channel = no gain. Will a newbie know to set the gains to “Fixed” and something like 30, 40, and 50 percent for roll, pitch, and yaw? 3. Don’t get me wrong, Spektrum’s AS3X/SAFE receivers are great. But the learning curve is steep.

Thank you so much for making this video :) you would also do this if you're moving a Spektrum receiver from one plane to another to make sure all your control services and stuff is correct.

AS3X and safe select are different. You can use the AS3X without being in a safe envelope. Sensor assisted flight envelope is what safe stands for. So you can use gyro without SAFE SELECT

Jay, this was awesome. Do you have a recommendation for a gyro that can work with dual aileron servos? The FMS has one input for Ailerons

Will AS3X work with a gas model AC? Does throttle come into play for activation? or is it always active until you control it with a switch?

Since I have a DX9 transmitter, I always use channel 7 for the receiver’s flight modes, 8 for panic, and 9 for gyro gains. That allows me to use channel 5 for retracts on switch A and 6 for flaps on switch D. The gain channel should be controlled by the knob. I generally set the AS3X gains to fixed and use 30% for roll, 40% for pitch, and 50% for yaw. The only time I’d use channels 5 and 6 to control the gyro is with a 6 channel transmitter.

@Jays_rcgarage

Жыл бұрын

A majority of beginners will probably be on a DX or NX6!

@txkflier

Жыл бұрын

@@Jays_rcgarage I would put the receiver’s flight modes channel on a 3 position switch so that one position turns the gyro off, the middle is AS3X (with SAFE envelope, if desired), and the other is SAFE with self-leveling with bank/pitch limits. Someone new to gyros needs an off position in case they get the gyro direction backwards. When I first got into gyros, I would take off with the gyro turned off and turn it on at a safe altitude, just in case. Now it doesn’t bother me to do a maiden flight in SAFE mode. Of course, I don’t need the gyro. I’ve only been flying R/C since 1963.. ;-)

what the difference between the FMS Reflex V2 Flight Controller Gyro Stabilizer and all the other Flight Controller Gyro Stabilizers like the NX3, A3 V2, Eagle A3 Pro V2 , ect....?

I'm a beginner to flying rc plane ( i never flew rc plane ) i am going to buy an e flite f4u Cosair plane . can you program safe on the cosair and is it ok to fly that plane

Unfortunately, the forward programming does not work on the older safe receivers, and the older spektrum receivers only have AS3X flight assistance. I believe they can be updated. But I have not been computer literate enough, lol I use the app and it crashes and do not know actually how to use it.

This is great, thanks! I'm a noob. My Carbon Cub S 2 is still in the box.. waiting on a battery today. I have two UMX planes coming next week, both have SAFE already in them, and I'll get to start figuring out the NX8 that I ordered with them. I look forward to hopefully not crashing (at least not right away). :)

@Jays_rcgarage

Жыл бұрын

Wow! Your starting off right with all those plans and a NX8. Good luck on the maidens 🤙🏼

Can you tell us what kind of remote you have and how to use it.

So I have a skysufer v5 generic sailplane pusher prop that tip stalls so easily because I’m that bad. I was looking at putting the reflex in but it looks like it’s only for FMS planes. Like you have to load the gains from the computer. Have you used the reflex on non fms planes ? I’m sure it wouldn’t be too bad if the plane had a similar wing span and weight

@Jays_rcgarage

Жыл бұрын

Yes I have ! It’s pretty standard. The PC system is easy to use. If you have spektrum than the AR630 receiver is Deff the simplest way to go because you can adjust everything at the field with forward programming

Is there a real difference between the NX6 and DX8e? Looks like the only thing is color screen and mixes. I think they both support this programming .

@Jays_rcgarage

Жыл бұрын

Correct, they both support it. I had a DX8 and loved it. Got a NX10 as a gift. Super happy with it.

Hi Jay, love the video!! My question is: I want to put the Ar630 or maybe Ar637T into a t28 1.4 v4 but this has reflex 2 in it already would I need to remove this? If so how would the wiring work? Kind regards Dave North Yorkshire England

@Jays_rcgarage

Жыл бұрын

Hey! If you want to use reflex just get a cheaper receiver that doesn't have a gyro. Reflex works amazing. But if you prefer a AR630.. Just disconnect the wires from the reflex coming from the servos and plug directly into the AR630 bypassing the reflex system!

@cooltube

Жыл бұрын

@@Jays_rcgarage thanks for that info Jay, does the reflex work just like safe then? As in safe, intermediate and expert. I guess expert on the ar630 would be the same as off on the reflex maybe.

I dont have a remote with forward programing to program as3x or safe i have a spektrum dxs only but i do have the ar630 receiver with as3x and safe im in need of seriously qualified professional help im frustrated is an understatement i have 3 beautiful planes and can't fly any of them what a waste im grounded for Christmas

How would I do this with a controller that has no screen, like a Spektrum DXS

@Jays_rcgarage

Жыл бұрын

I believe you would use the spektrum app !

Isn't the Reflex gyro only for FMS planes? You hook the Reflex up to your computer and download settings for a specific FMS model. That is what is shown in one of the product videos. Thanks.

What I didn’t hear mentioned is as a fail safe you still need some height no good being 20 ft from the ground

You can't do that on the older spektrum receivers. 636a and 636b are much more complex

All of that said, I would buy a newer spektrum set up.

Where do you live?

@Jays_rcgarage

Жыл бұрын

Long Island NY

@AdilErtKaya

Жыл бұрын

@@Jays_rcgarage Are you serious? We had tent camping there before.

Hello, I'm from Indonesia. May I ask for the toy plane.

No good when you hate spektrum

Ive been flying since the 1970s and I can’t stand SAFE mode. Its awful.