00:05 Prof. Jon Hoover discusses Ibn Taymiyya's religious utilitarianism. 02:39 Taymiyya's religious ethics compared to utilitarianism 07:38 Ibn Taymiyya considers the big picture before forbidding wine 10:04 Ibn Taymiyya's view on leaving bad company 14:58 The revealed law encompasses all human benefits. 17:17 Ibn Taymiyya acknowledges some benefit in certain actions outside the law, but overall sees the detriment as greater than the benefits. 21:22 Ibn Taymiyya emphasized the necessity of considering the wider consequences of prohibiting a king from drinking wine. 23:22 Ibn Taymiyya addresses the decline of the caliphate after the initial period 27:44 Striving for good while not being perfect 29:46 Ibn Taymiyya's retreat from the world and pleasures of marriage. 33:58 Ibn Taymiyya's dilemma about the goodness of the will of God 36:08 God's actions and their eternal or temporal nature 40:16 Different views on God's will and temporality by the Ash'aris and the Maturidis 42:29 God's working for our benefit needs to take place outside of God's Essence to protect it from temporality or change. 46:46 Ibn Taymiyya criticizes the idea of a God not creating for wise purposes and rejects the concept of an eternal will creating temporal events. 49:04 God acts and creates by his will and power 53:27 Ibn Taymiyya's view of God is dynamic and not influenced by Greek philosophy 55:33 Ibn Taymiyya refutes the Ash'ari objections to God's actions and temporally originating events in God's Essence. 59:37 Debate on God creating the best possible world 1:01:37 God's self-sufficiency and perfection 1:06:13 Ibn Taymiyya's thought on religious ethics 1:08:08 Ibn Taymiyya's enduring influence in the modern world

Reminder to the Ummah: do not forget your brothers and sisters in Gaza.

@lovelo8780

3 ай бұрын

Don't forget your brothers and sisters in Sudan either

@harharharharharharharharha240

3 ай бұрын

Or Sudan or Syria or Yemen or Afghanistan. We should pray for all ❤ may Allah help the people of Gaza soon

@anyq_CS

3 ай бұрын

​@@lovelo8780the whole middle east. western neo con want a full blown war in the region because the world economic gravity is shifting towards global south. BRICS is the future

@user-nt9ic2dm6d

3 ай бұрын

We will never forget our brothers in whole Palestine and in the whole world. Thank you brothers for the reminders. ONE UMMAH. 🤲🇵🇸✌️

@pebystroll

3 ай бұрын

Why do egypt not open it's borders if the people care so much

I've heard so much about John Hoover but till now haven't seen his video ... thanks a lot Paul for introducing these galaxy of guests

Jeffrey Lang, an American mathematician and convert to Islam, has written extensively about various aspects of Islam, including the concept of following the prescribed path or Sharia. In his writings, Lang theorizes that God wants humanity to follow the prescribed path outlined in Sharia for several reasons:Divine Guidance: Lang suggests that Sharia serves as a comprehensive set of guidelines and laws given by God to humanity to lead a righteous and fulfilling life. Following these guidelines is believed to lead to individual and societal well-being.Test of Faith: Lang posits that following the prescribed path is a test of faith and obedience to God's commands. By adhering to Sharia, believers demonstrate their commitment to God and their submission to His will.Benefit to Humanity: Lang argues that the principles and values embedded in Sharia, such as justice, compassion, and morality, are beneficial not only for individuals but also for society as a whole. By following these principles, humanity can achieve harmony, justice, and prosperity.

@homer1273

3 ай бұрын

You probably completely misquoting what Jeffrey lang said. No Allah doesn’t want us to follow “shariah law” as you falsely claim. The concept of “Shariah law” isn’t even mentioned in the Quran. Allah wanted man to have free will and be a khalifa on the earth not a robot who follow thousands of prescribed rules

@Zaatar_Honey

3 ай бұрын

This guy just copy pasted from chatgpt

@CubedNightShot9777

3 ай бұрын

​@@Zaatar_Honeyfr he could've summarised that in like a couple sentences and it all kinda goes without saying

@Tim-Man007

3 ай бұрын

​@@homer1273 U don't know what ur talking about

@blur5725

3 ай бұрын

@@homer1273 {ثم جعلناك على شريعة من الأمر فاتبعها} (الجاثية:18) {Then We put you on an ordained way concerning the matter; so follow it} (45:18) phonetic transliteration in case you don’t read arabic: (Thumma jaAAalnaka AAala shariAAatin mina alamri faittabiAAha). Notice the word “shariaatin”. Don’t talk about things you don’t know anything about

Jon hoover.... finally..... you mentionned him so much each time you spoke of ibn taymiyah

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

so what do you think of ibn taimiyya's ruling on the druze?

@abdelhakyac7285

3 ай бұрын

@@user-jv4zb6zu7w i dont know about it, can you mention it in details or mention the book and the chapter?

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

@@abdelhakyac7285 3rd attempt to reply. i'll keep it short this time. google 'ibn taimayya on the druze. should pull upbislam stack exchange and islamqa. "In the book Majmoo al-Fatawa (Compilation of Fatwa), which is a collection of fatwas issued by Ibn Taimiyah published posthumously, volume 35 page 161"

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

@@abdelhakyac7285 In the book Majmoo al-Fatawa (Compilation of Fatwa), which is a collection of fatwas issued by Ibn Taimiyah published posthumously, volume 35 page 161

@Tim-Man007

3 ай бұрын

Druze aren't Muslims

That is great topic, thank you for sharing. Thanks to Professor John Hoover for providing power points helping in understanding this deep topic.

JazakAllah khair for this interview.

Thank you for this perfectly well explained and clear présentation!

a bit random but i always love how warmly Paul welcomes his guests

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

will he ever have a druze on? how about an alawite?

@umarr6221

3 ай бұрын

'Hello and welcome sir'

@Nubia567

3 ай бұрын

He wasn’t that nice in real life tbh I greeted him and he totally ignored me didn’t even respond to my salam🤷

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

@@Nubia567 lol. you sure he heard you? he looks pretty old.

@BloggingTheology

3 ай бұрын

My apologies. I don't think it was intentional. As salamu aleiykum @@Nubia567

Paul, you mention Vasilou's far-reaching interplay between Islamic and European philosophies. There is also an Islamic-Dharmic interplay that would be valuable to examine too in light of the rising powers of the East. There is a work on Islam and Buddism by a Reza Shah-Kazemi with introductions by Hamza Yusuf and the Dalai Lama. We have Hellenistic Buddhism with the conquests of Alexander. It would also be good to see Islam amongst the indigenous people of Australia and the Americas. Great work as ever, God bless!

@BloggingTheology

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

God bless you Paul for your great efforts

@BloggingTheology

3 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

@@BloggingTheology so paul, are you for the genocide of the druze? from al munajjid's website, islamqa: "Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah was asked about how the Druze and Nusairis should be judged. He replied: These Druze and Nusairis are kaafirs, according to the consensus of the Muslims. It is not permissible to eat the meat they slaughter, or to marry their womenfolk. They do not agree to pay the jizyah, so they are apostates from the religion of Islam and are not Muslims, nor are they Jews or Christians. They do not agree that the five daily prayers are obligatory, or that fasting Ramadaan is obligatory, or that Hajj is obligatory. They do not regard as haraam that which Allaah and His Messenger have forbidden of dead meat or wine, etc. Even if they pronounce the Shahaadatayn, with these beliefs they are kaafirs according to the consensus of the Muslims. As for the Nusairis, they are the followers of Abu Shu’ayb Muhammad ibn Naseer, who was one of the extremists who say that ‘Ali is a god, and they recite these words: “I bear witness that there is no god except Haidar [i.e., ‘Ali], and no screen covering him except Muhammad, the honest and trustworthy one, and there is no way to him except through Salmaan the all-powerful.” Haidar is a title given to ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him). With regard to the Druze, the followers of Hashtakeen al-Durzi, who was one of the freed slaves of al-Haakim whom he sent to the people of Wadi Taym-Allaah ibn Tha’labah and he called them to believe in the divinity of al-Haakim and they call him “the creator, the all-knowing”, and swear by him, they are among the Ismailis who believe that Muhammad ibn Isma’eel abrogated the law of Muhammad ibn ‘Abd-Allaah. They are worse kaafirs than many other extremist groups. They believe that this universe has no creator and they deny the resurrection and the duties and prohibitions of Islam. They are among the esoteric Qarmatians (al-Qaraamitah) who are worse kaafirs than the Jews, Christians and mushrik Arabs. Basically they follow the philosophy of Aristotle and his ilk, or the Magians. Their ideas are a mixture of Magian philosophy but they make an outward, hypocritical display of being Shi’ah. And Allaah knows best. Shaykh al-Islam also said, refuting the ideas of some sects of Druze: The fact that these groups are kaafirs is something concerning which there is no dispute among the Muslims. Rather whoever doubts that they are kaafirs is a kaafir like them. They do not have a status like that of the People of the Book or of the mushrikeen, rather they are misguided kaafirs and it is not permissible to eat their food, their women may be taken captive and their wealth may be confiscated. They are heretics and apostates whose repentance cannot be accepted, rather they should be killed wherever they are found, and they may be cursed because of what they are. It is not permissible to employ them as guards and gatekeepers. Their scholars and leaders must be killed, lest they lead others astray. It is haraam to sleep with them in their houses or to be friends with them, or to walk with them or to attend their funerals, if their death is announced. It is haraam for the Muslim authorities to neglect to carry out the hadd punishment that Allaah has enjoined by whatever means they see fit. And Allaah is the One Whose help we seek and in Whom we put our trust." do you also consider aristotle to be 'ilk'?

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

@@BloggingTheology paul, what do you think ibn taimayya's fatwa on the druze?

@mohammedghander9243

3 ай бұрын

@@user-jv4zb6zu7w only only God who judges among us ( all mankind) about what we differed in faith and believes ( hereafter on the day of judgement) From Quran

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

@@mohammedghander9243 so why did ibn taimayya issue a fatwa saying the druze should be killed? why do all the major madhabs [save hanifi, for a female] say apostates should be put to death? please explain what tafeer is to me. i keep seeing it used as a judgement that says so and so is an apostate or excommunicated, as in outside the fold of islam. right here on yt a british guy, muhammad hijab declared takfeer on the 1st minister of scotland, yousef hamza for saying homosexuality isn't a sin. you sure about this 'only allah judges'? and if you can, please explain hisbah [forebiding the evil] to me as well. thanks.

Really like Dr. Hoover’s work, especially on Ibn Taymiyyah. I own several of his papers on Scribd. This was thoroughly enjoyable too. Thanks as always, Br. Paul! If you do bring him on again, please ask Dr. Hoover about Ibn Taymiyyah’s concept of fana' al-nar (the annihilation of the fire) in his Al-Radd 'ala man Qala bi-Fana' al-Janna wa-l-Nar. I know Ibn Qayyim has defended the position, however, is there solid evidence that Ibn Taymiyyah wrote what is sometimes attributed to him?

@MohammedAlSharif2002

3 ай бұрын

Ibn Al-Qayyim mentions Ibn Taymiyyah wrote a book on this issue and Al-Subki wrote a book responding to Ibn Taymiyyah. This shows that he probably wrote the book.

May Almighty Allah Bless and Reward Both of You in this Life and in the Hereafter.

Brother's and sister's don't forget about our brothers in gaza , sudan, .... and in evrey part in earth.

When you refer to the concept of the ruler being obliged to stop drinking alcohol, let us remember in the hadith that when Muadh was sent to Yemen he was told by Prophet Muhammad in a saheeh hadeeth to call them by degrees as they were serious mushriks. Firstly, after they pronounce the Shahada it is for them to start praying then after they start praying they can be strong enough to fast and then if they enable themselves to do that they can offer the zakat and then if they are financially and physically strong enough they can perform the hajj. Clearly, as one increases in obedience one increases in ability.

Good talk.

jazakumullah khayran, great lecture!

thanks

I love this kind of academic content on the channel either pertaining to the Bible/Torah or Islamic titans from the past. I always watch these and think how is it possible the guest is not convinced by Islam

Before being introduced to Islam, the Mongols practiced a form of animism and shamanism, with beliefs centered around nature spirits and ancestor worship. When the Mongols began expanding their empire, they encountered various civilizations and religions, including Muslim empires such as the Khwarezmian Empire and the Abbasid Caliphate.

Brother Paul please do a podcast with professor David Miller who was discriminated on his views by uni of Bristol

Masha Allah

I can’t imagine that IbnTaymiya’s thoughts spreaded among British theologians, I would recommend “Cyprus Message” his masterpiece to you as an opportunity to understand your background in a new way of thinking. Thanks again Paul.

in Surah Al-A'raf (7:32) of the Quran, Allah says: "Say, 'Who has forbidden the adornment of Allah which He has produced for His servants and the good [lawful] things of provision?' Say, 'They are for those who believe during the worldly life [but] exclusively for them on the Day of Resurrection.' Thus do We detail the verses for a people who know." This verse highlights Allah's disapproval of people who forbid what He has made permissible. Islam encourages to benefit from allowed that things and its not encouraged to leave halal pleasures and go on to live in seclusion..

@user-ud9zb7hf3i

3 ай бұрын

قُلْ مَنْ حَرَّمَ زِينَةَ اللَّهِ الَّتِي أَخْرَجَ لِعِبَادِهِ وَالطَّيِّبَاتِ مِنَ الرِّزْقِ ۚ قُلْ هِيَ لِلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا خَالِصَةً يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ ۗ كَذَٰلِكَ نُفَصِّلُ الْآيَاتِ لِقَوْمٍ يَعْلَمُونَ (32

Discussing the book “Reply to the Logicians” by Ibn Taymiyyah?

Assalamualaykum warahmatullah Brother Paul can you help me to reach to Dr. Jon Hoover I am a student in King Abdul Aziz University Masters Degree, My thesis is about iban Taymiyyah i need his help about how West View his books. Pardon my English I'm not fluent at it.

@yourfriends

Ай бұрын

Write him an email

What I learned from this lecture is, 1_ Ibn Taymiyya's method is Basically based on "if the benefits outweighs the determent loss" while looking at the greater picture. 2_ The revelation is nothing but benefit. Strive to achieve what you "can" from it to the best of your ability (especially if under limitation) yet take care not to cause loss on a major scale. 3_ every rational human should scale (weighs) things up & investigate the consequences to handle things with wisdom, the religion is based on ease & gives room to leniency. The Hadith you mentioned 51:00 وَحَدَّثَنِي زُهَيْرُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا جَرِيرٌ، عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ سِيرِينَ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ لاَ تَسُبُّوا الدَّهْرَ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الدَّهْرُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ Abu Huraira reported Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) as saying: Do not curse Time, for it is Allah Who is Time. Sahih Muslim 2246e

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

so what do you think of ibn taimayya's fatwa on the druze?

@EslamNawito

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-jv4zb6zu7w Its correct, he conveyed in "the Compilation of Fatwa" book the "consensus of Islamic scholars" . The same principals apply on "The Ridda Wars", if you deny Gods commandments from his Deen you are NOT a Muslim period~ Is that hard to understand? Lets say I came one day & said drinking Alcohol is Halal, at this very moment I turned AWAY from the Deen. What do you think about Prayer? Fasting? Paying Zakat? you know the pillars of ISLAM? If they repent then its all fine, but they persisted 😒

@dcanebreezy5784

3 ай бұрын

@@user-jv4zb6zu7w As u asked in last comments, wil answer you again. Druze are kufar. Period

@dcanebreezy5784

3 ай бұрын

look at other comments. This guy is a kaffir and mocking Allah swt@@EslamNawito

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

@@EslamNawito "Is that hard to understand?" no, not hard to understand at all. islam means to rule the world with an iron fist and kill all those who would contradict its teachings. it is a homicidal, genocidal creed. yes, we agree. so you would kill all the druze if you were the caliph? can you answer with a yes or no? "Lets say I came one day & said drinking Alcohol is Halal, at this very moment I turned AWAY from the Deen." right, you would be takfeer. so hamza yousef [the first prime minister of scotland] should be killed for saying homosexuality isn't a sin? "What do you think about Prayer?" waste of time. "Fasting?" good for weight loss perhaps. fast, don't fast, why would i care? "Paying Zakat?" you want to give to charity, give to charity. if you don't, don't. "you know the pillars of ISLAM?" yes. "If they repent then its all fine, but they persisted 😒" so much for surah 109. what does ti say: 'to your religion to me mine'. lol. so why do some muslims say islam is a tolerant religion. clearly it does not tolerate dissent.

Creations cannot contains God but God power is all over creations thats y when he need to send message he sent tru Angels to Prophets.... God dose not sleep not a secs he sees all things hears all things Allahu Ahkbar❤

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

so has your god abandoned gaza?

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Dr. Yasir Qadhis Master thesis on Ibn Taymiyyas Darʾ taʿāruḍ al-ʿaql wa al-naql was a very interesting read

@BloggingTheology

3 ай бұрын

Yes it is good but it was for his PhD.

I will be honest i always disliked ben taymiya I think he is super wrong about too many things

@ob1kendobe

3 ай бұрын

To be honest your opinion doesn’t matter

@ultimategohan5837

3 ай бұрын

Ikr

Wallahi I got his book on ibn taymiyya yesterday from Amazon.

Assalamualaikum warahmatullah wabarakatuh brother Paul, I believe that the context of the hadith God is Time is that Allah creates the motion of objects in the skies, He also generates creation and makes them perish. So time correlates with divine actions, connected to His will and power. Athari school has no obsession over atom and void, so they're free from a nonsensical notion where time is illustrated as a dome of void containing every motion of entities, including God, while engulfing them all in a spherical abstract sense. Please verify this to Ustadz Bassam Zawadi 😊

@BloggingTheology

3 ай бұрын

wa alaikum assalam

Quran emphasizes the concept that everything Allah does has wisdom and purpose behind it. One verse that conveys this idea is found in Surah Al-Mulk (67:2), which translates to: "He who created death and life to test you [as to] which of you is best in deed - and He is the Exalted in Might, the Forgiving." This verse underscores the notion that Allah's actions, including the creation of life and death, serve a purpose, which in this case is to test humanity's deeds. It encourages believers to reflect on the deeper meaning and wisdom behind Allah's decisions and not to attribute them to randomness or lack of purpose.

@homer1273

3 ай бұрын

Why are spamming random things that even a child knows ?

Honestly British are very insightful when it comes to Islamic studies..

Let’s drive on the same lane 🚗

🔥❤️

Why religious ethics and not just ethics. Without religion, what is ethics

Regarding is Allah time? Consider the saheeh hadeeth which tells us "do not curse time, for I am time."

Hosting Dr. Abdullah Al-Ujairi to talk about the ideas of Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyyah is much better than hosting Western academics.

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Ibnu Taimiyah adalah salah satu syaikhul islam, seorang pembaharu yang sangat kokoh diatas Al Qur'an dan as Sunnah dengan pemahaman para sahabat nabi yang mulia. Seorang ulama besar dengan warisan ilmunya terhadap Islam. Ironisnya di Indonesia siapa pun sekarang yang sepaham dalam islam dengan ibnu Taimiyah akan mereka labeli dengan sebutan Wahabi. Sebuah narasi yang mirip sekali dengan yang dilakukan dunia barat ketika mereka berusaha untuk merusak Islam. Mayoritas penuduhnya adalah orang-orang As'ariyah maturidiyah dengan layar belakang akidah sufinya. Semoga Allah merahmati ibnu Taimiyah dan para ulama yang telah menjaga agama ini agar tetap lurus di jalur yang Alloh ridhoi.

Allah(not god,as they are not the same), says in Quran that everything is created in exact proportion. Therefore every situation discloses by its result that perfection which could never have been otherwise. He loves to be known.

Assaalam U Alalaikum, I aint sure about Good or Bad, Thats why I choose to be with Capt. Jack, Not ugly either 😎. Peace & Serenity again 🫶

Islam post the rapidly outgoing fossil fuels age will be required to re-invent itself and be the 1st of the 3 majors teaching the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, too (لا تمشي في الارض مرحا...انك لن تبلغ الجبال طولا ); "In any system of energy, Control is what consumes energy the most. No energy store holds enough energy to extract an amount of energy equal to the total energy it stores. No system of energy can deliver sum useful energy in excess of the total energy put into constructing it. This universal truth applies to all systems. Energy, like time, flows from past to future" (2017).

@user-dc7uy6vg3y

3 ай бұрын

Do you believe that the fuel is fossil 🦕 🌳?

@mohamadjehan8836

3 ай бұрын

Fossils are Allah's gift upon mankind. There is no foreseeable alternative at the moment. Please keep away from the Global Elites and their climate agenda of absolute human control. Climate is controlled by Allah.

I love ibn taymiyah he’s one of my top 5 scholars and thinkers

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

so you support the idea that the druze should all be killed as apostates?

@dcanebreezy5784

3 ай бұрын

Kuffar. Apostates of course! Learn your deen and if you are a druze u should know that u have nothing to do with our religion.@@user-jv4zb6zu7w

@Tim-Man007

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-jv4zb6zu7w druze are apostates lmao .

رضي الله عن شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية قاهر الفلاسفة والرافضه والاشاعره واليهود والنصارى

@othmandont9355

3 ай бұрын

الأشاعرة > الحشويّة

I wonder what sources from Quran/Hadith inform Ibn Taymiyyah when he mentions that God has self-love. I’ve never heard of this idea before.

@user-jv4zb6zu7w

3 ай бұрын

yeah, why does god need to love itself?

@sands_of_time12

3 ай бұрын

I know right..agreed..Allahs 99 names and they r not limited to 99 ..one of them is Al wadud...this beats me.what this man.presented as such a great thought of taimiyyah...british promotion of British islam that they promoted thru Sauds...that's the only connect I see

@NadDew

2 ай бұрын

do you think that God doesn't love himself? if Al wadud is one if God attribute then shouldn't God include himself? if you expect that God love his creations then God must love himself, a god who doesn't love himself wouldn't love his worshipers @sands_of_time12 the way you drew the conclusion between God loving himself and Al-Saud is clear indication of your iQ... just saying 😊

@sands_of_time12

2 ай бұрын

@@NadDew when u have to love yourself..that shows weakness or proof of weakness..being love and loving yourself is different

@sands_of_time12

2 ай бұрын

@@NadDew the way u said i drew conclusion of saudis with ibn taimiyya who sunnis didnt spit on for 600 years comes alive with saud regime..shows me your iq too and brain washing .. enjoy ...just saying too😜 u need time for self love just saying that too lol

How about ibn arabi ?

@Iamfsaly

3 ай бұрын

Which ibn arabi?

@shihabshihabi375

3 ай бұрын

حكم بكفر ابن عربي محققي العلماء وكان يعتقد بوحدة الوجود ويرى ان فرعون كان مؤمنا الى آخر طوامه

@GraphicalRanger

3 ай бұрын

​@@shihabshihabi375I highly doubt that's correct!

@SunnahResistance

3 ай бұрын

​@@GraphicalRanger No this is correct. Ibn Arabi was a sufi and believed in some of the most extreme forms of it even. It is a belief known as wahdatul wujood. Essentially, he believed he was Allah. Ibn Al Arabi on the other hand is a scholar of Sunnah

@shihabshihabi375

3 ай бұрын

@@GraphicalRanger فهم في ريبهم يترددون. وحدة الوجود أعظم عقيدة في الكفر، وهذه العقيدة التي لم تعرف الأرض أكفر ولا أفجر منها، والتي فصّلها هذا الخبيث في كتابه الفصوص، قد نثرها وفرقها في موسوعته الكبيرة الفتوحات المكية، والتي تقع في أربع مجلدات كبار كبار. * بدأها في مقدمته بقوله: \'ولما حيرتني هذه الحقيقة أنشدت على حكم الطريقة للحقيقة: الرب حق والعبد حـق *** يا ليت شعري من المكلف إن قلت عبد فذاك ميت *** وإن قلت رب أنى يكلف مأخوذ من مقالة: نماذج من كفر ابن عربي فابحث عنها في قوقل واقرأها

The theological implications of Ibn Taymiyya’s reasoning can lead to anthropomorphism. Ash’ari reasoning does not compromise on the verse 42:12, “Naught is like unto God, yet God is the Hearer, the Seer.” Thank you for a priceless episode as always.

@ob1kendobe

3 ай бұрын

The theological implications of ashari reasoning is implicit atheism (ie. a God that doesn’t actually exist)

@ahxmadnur

3 ай бұрын

@@ob1kendobe Explain?

@ob1kendobe

27 күн бұрын

@@ahxmadnur atharis say that Allah exists separate and distinct from his creation. One could say they say he exists outside of his creation. An ashari would say you can’t say “outside” bc that denotes physical location etc. there is a simple refutation of that accusation however to stay on point. If someone (ie an ashari in this case) says Allah doesn’t exists inside and he also does NOT exist outside then “where” does he exist. Its implications is that he exists nowhere (which is similar to what an atheist would say/beleive)

@ahxmadnur

24 күн бұрын

@@ob1kendobe Thanks

Is he muslim?

@DAWAHTIME1

3 ай бұрын

I guess no. I am not sure about how authentic or deep a person's understanding would be if he doesn't believe in Islam or what Ibn Tamiyah believed in.

@andrewpalim1978

3 ай бұрын

@@DAWAHTIME1it is so strange the man talks so lucidly and respectfully about fine details of Islamic law and theology but doesn’t profess to be a Muslim. He’s not your typical orientalist who has a condescending attitude, studies the religion to attack it, or only has a superficial outsider’s perspective on Islam, quite the opposite on all counts actually. May Allah guide him.

Rare Figure ....one of the scholar of century...

Every single one of ‘em is Jack…

Hahaha hahaha this is so funny when a primary school baby talks against a university professor, comparing to Ibn Tayymia, this John is not even a primary school student

The fact that ibn taymiyyah took a unorthodox stance cost him

@khairt1731

3 ай бұрын

It costs all 4 imams and plenty of scholars. You're right

@sbaj24

3 ай бұрын

So much. He’s a tragic figure.

@Iamfsaly

3 ай бұрын

How is he not orthodox?

@sbaj24

3 ай бұрын

@@Iamfsaly he has no chain of isnad and he propagated many unorthodox views. For example: he believed the universe is eternal and that traveling to visit the Prophet’s (peace be upon him) grave is haram..etc.

@sbaj24

3 ай бұрын

@@Iamfsaly plus he believed in anthropomorphism relating to Allah سبحانه وتعالى.

I wouldn't agree that Ibn Taymiyya it's completely anti-Platonic in that both hold that if you want to change a people, change their art and music.

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Problem is ibn taymiya doesnt take the quran as a guide

@islamisthetruereligion5286

3 ай бұрын

Y ar a liar 😅 I read his book Ibn taymia use a lot the quran

@alcamirialcamiri5343

3 ай бұрын

Problem is you don't know the Quran and you don't know ibn taymiyayah.. you are regurgitating the lies of ignorant mustashriqs..

@sands_of_time12

3 ай бұрын

100 percent

@dcanebreezy5784

3 ай бұрын

Are u a muslim ? never heard a muslim saying this about Ibn taymiya lol what are u smoking ? that just shows how ignorant you are. Ibn taymiya use Quran and sunnah base on the understanding of The Salaf. Period I think you are an ashari or some weird kaffir who throw shubuhat

@dcanebreezy5784

3 ай бұрын

drunk ?@@sands_of_time12

Religion and Theology are not synonymous.

@khaderlander2429

3 ай бұрын

Can you define religion? Can you also define theology?

@makkahcadey

3 ай бұрын

@@khaderlander2429you probably don’t believe in our religion,other religions that we see today,then it may be synonymous,but not Islām as it is well preserved. Therefore, our Religion is set and we live and believe in what is Devine told to us. How to live is the important thing to mankind needs be we have that. We can use our intellect to learn about new things and build for us a civilisation and mainly to understand what was revealed. We take what is given and leave off what is not. It’s as simple as that. Philosophy and theology is different. If you want a definition,then search it yourself, we aren’t here to debate on a KZread comment section.

this scholar had anthropomorphic ideas of Allah,,he debated the fact that God would be on throne sitting like a man does,,,and im surprised the morality is an opportunist and not something necessary ,another part not mentioned is ulema of the time were againt this man and he was locked up after signatures of those ulema in egypt ,..but sure

@cryptoacademy2909

3 ай бұрын

It looks like you only read what others said about ibn Taymiya, not ibn Taymiya himself. Hence you're not qualified to even comment on this topic

@sands_of_time12

3 ай бұрын

@@cryptoacademy2909 those are ahadith he mentions in his book ..and number 2 his student ibn kathir mentions that when ulema of sunnis signed a petition to throw him in jail...really hurt ur daddy that ISIS follows..hence your a t group follower unqualified..watch out where u debate.. the other person might know way more than you.enjoy

@sands_of_time12

3 ай бұрын

@cryptoacademy2909 about 60 sunni ulema wrote a complaint about him in his life and proved his defunct aqeeda, and he was thrown in jail in Egypt. This is also mentioned by his student ibn kathir in bidaya wa-nihaya.. and blogging theology, stop deleting my comment .I'm going to take a screenshot of this as I find it interesting that you really wana promote this Isis loving train of thought.

@ahmed.aljelali

3 ай бұрын

He's not a antopomorphist, you jahmis never understood salafian theology because all of you are so stupid to get it

@andibensisva2155

3 ай бұрын

@@sands_of_time12Quit the bigotry you fanatic.

i don't know why everyone outside the Ahl Sunnah hates Ibn Taymiyya

Ibn taymiyyah is a revered islamic scholar.. who drives his religious positions from the Quran, the sunnah based on the understanding of the salaf... Trying to attach utilitarianism or any other -ism is just a deliberate attempt to deceive and mislead others..... And islamic creed is to be taken from the honest scholars of the religion not from a biased infidel... Saying that ibn taymiyyah does not take the Quran as a guide is another glaring lie...but it is the outcome when bias mixes with ignorance

@dinr.s.4305

3 ай бұрын

It's interesting how they linked Ibn Taymiyyah's words to Plato, Ibn Sina, and even Voltaire, while he had his arguments from the Qur'ān and Sunnah. why will someone recommend me to read a book about Ibni Taymiyyah and not one of his books? Is that supervised thinking?

@alcamirialcamiri5343

3 ай бұрын

Ibn taymiya is not a random person commenting on the religious texts but highly knowledgeable individual of the select religious elite... When a non_arabic speaker who himself barely had any contact with the original Arabic works of ibn taymiyayah ... Starts to write a commentary on ibn taymiyyah's creed and religious views, It makes me doubt if the goal is to really understand ibn taymiyah as a scholarly figure...

@SunnahResistance

3 ай бұрын

This is from the dangers of taking from western academics and orientalists rather than the actual scholars of Islam who are versed in these matters. Something I see far too often on this channel, may Allah guide us.

ibn taimiyya said the druze and alawites are to be killed as apostates. you call that ethics? lol.

@aksalafi

3 ай бұрын

The druze and Alawites are not Muslims although they may claim to be with in the fold of Islam. They are like Nation of Islam or Qadianis or Exterem Shia they claim to be Muslim but hold beliefs that are contrary to Islam. So they are not Muslims. But as for Ibn Taymiyyah holding the view you state I have never heard of that from him. I would find it strange because how could he hold they are apostates when they were never Muslim from the start. They only ever claimed Islam, but Islam has always been free from them.

@mustafahussein9356

3 ай бұрын

Another smart Christian. Okay, let's use the same criteria for your god jesus. He said those who don't want me to regin over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me. He also commanded the killing of people who worship different gods in the old testament. There you go. Your god is not ethical

@mustafahussein9356

3 ай бұрын

Another smart Christian. Let's use your criteria on Jesus

@lovelo8780

3 ай бұрын

I found these quotes online allegedly from Ibn Taymiyya's Majmoo al Fatwa: "He was asked, may God Almighty have mercy on him, about the “ Druze” and “Nusayri”: What is their ruling. He replied: These Druze and Nusayri are infidels, according to Muslim agreement. It is not permissible to eat their sacrifices or marry their women. They do not even acknowledge the tribute; They are apostates from the religion of Islam and are not Muslims. Neither Jews nor Christians acknowledge the obligation of the five daily prayers, nor the obligation of fasting during Ramadan, nor the obligation of Hajj. Nor does it prohibit what God and His Messenger have forbidden, such as dead meat, wine, or anything else. If they demonstrate the two testimonies of faith along with these beliefs, then they are infidels, according to Muslim agreement. As for the Nusayris , they are the followers of Abu Shuaib Muhammad bin Nusayr, and he was one of the extremists who said: Ali is a god, and they chanted: I bear witness that there is no god but Haidara Al-Anza’ Al-Batin, and there is no veil over him except Muhammad Al-Sadiq Al-Amin, and there is no path to him except Salman, the Possessor of Power and Solidity. As for "Druze", they are the followers of Hashtakin Druze . He was one of Al-Hakim’s loyalists. He was sent by Allah bin Tha’labah to the people of Wadi Taim, so he called them to the divinity of Al-Hakim. They call him [ p. 162] “Al-Bari Al-Allam” and they swear by him. They are Ismailis who say that Muhammad bin Ismail abrogated the law of Muhammad bin Abdullah, and they are greater in disbelief than Al-Ghaliya, saying that the world is as old as the world. And denying the Day of Resurrection and denying the duties and prohibitions of Islam. They are from the mystical Qarmatians who are more infidels than the Jews , Christians, and Arab polytheists, and their goal is to be “philosophers” according to the doctrine of Aristotle and his likes, or “Magians.” Their saying is a combination of the sayings of philosophers and Magians, and they show Shiism as hypocrisy. God knows . The Sheikh of Islam, may God have mercy on him, said in response to the rejection of sects of the “ Druze ” that these people are infidels in matters about which Muslims do not differ. Rather, whoever doubts their disbelief is an unbeliever like them. They are not in the same position as the People of the Book or the polytheists . Rather, they are misguided infidels, and it is not permissible to eat their food, take their women captive, and take their money. They are apostate heretics whose repentance is not accepted. Rather, they are killed wherever they are educated. And they are cursed as they described; And may not be used to guard the gate and maintain . Their scholars and righteous men must be killed so that they do not mislead others. It is forbidden to sleep with them in their homes. And their company; And walk with them and the funeral janazah if aware of her death . It is forbidden for the rulers of Muslim affairs to waste what God has commanded to establish punishments over them with anything that the assessor sees, not the person being judged by

@Golha2505

3 ай бұрын

Assad regime is alawite, they commit crimes as heinous as the zionists'. Ibn taymiyya was right.

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Ibn Taymiyyah was one of the 2 worse things that happened to Islam. The other is Ibn Abdul Wahhab.

@kay1057

3 ай бұрын

The 2 worse things to happen to Islam is the birth of the deviant sect of Ashariah and the Mongol Invasion

@satujalan1622

3 ай бұрын

Quroisy people say the Prophet Muhammad PBUH was a madman and a sorcerer, oh, bad people accuse good people of being bad people, whereas the world already knows that the bad people are just talking without any basis and without evidence

@Iammostafizur

3 ай бұрын

😂😂

@jurjyzaidan5540

3 ай бұрын

@satujalan1622 Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Abdul Wahhab were hardly "good people" ... Besides, when Islam has Prophet Muhammad, there was no need for the Taymiyyahs and Wahhabs.

@kay1057

3 ай бұрын

@@jurjyzaidan5540 Islam neither needed Al Ghazali the cursed nor Al Jawaini the heretic