Mine is from 1997 and it runs perfectly. I trust it with my life, and I trusted it with my life in the Marine Corps 🙏🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻 sorry you had a bad model, this is genuinely the first time I've seen someone complain about it and it's sad.

@SuburbanPathfinder

3 жыл бұрын

Well, it’s not that big a deal. Just a bit of dust. Love the watch, otherwise. I’ll be doing my follow-up review soon. Thanks for the feedback!

@folksurvival

Жыл бұрын

Mechanicals just seem too inaccurate to trust and rely on that much compared to quartz (and especially eco-drive and tough solar quartz).

@OscarOSullivan

6 ай бұрын

@@SuburbanPathfinderThankfully mine is free from problems and it is a 8204 movement watch

Sounds like you got a returned watch. My same watch was clean as a whistle (not 1 problem) performs beautifully.

I bought this watch late last year and I thought it was great. I loved the look of it and really enjoyed wearing it. Unfortunately I had to send it back. The crown was extremely difficult to screw and unscrew. I was worried also as it was only on about three quarters of a thread. You’d unscrew it and less than one turn and it was off. I decided to have my money back instead of a replacement but I think I’m actually going to try another go at one.

@SuburbanPathfinder

3 жыл бұрын

Other than the troubles I enumerated in this video, I’ve had very good luck with mine. I still think the Promaster Diver beats the pants off the SKX.

Mine is from 1993, and perfect, no problems. Someone's had it open, thats for sure.

In a way the watch has now become more personalised to you by opening it up and cleaning it. I did this last week for one of mine and like it even more now that I’ve done a bit of internal cleaning.

@SuburbanPathfinder

3 жыл бұрын

Good way of looking at it!

What a bummer, I would not have expected that from Citizen.

@SuburbanPathfinder

4 жыл бұрын

No. Me neither.

Have one from 99. Runs like dream.

Having to open a water tight watch is a big annoyance indeed. I just bought a Vostok Amphibia that runs a bit fast, but I'm not taking the back off to regulate it - I want to keep the original 200 m water resistance as guaranteed by Vostok. Too bad you bought this from overseas, with all the hassles of sending it back and having to deal with a foreigner vendor - with all the stuff you found in it, sending it back could definitely be an option. On the plus side, once cleaned up, it is a very nice watch. It is strange that Citizen has such a QC problem - I wasn't expecting that from them.

@SuburbanPathfinder

4 жыл бұрын

I wasn’t expecting that either. My prior experience with Citizen has been the opposite really. Excellent QC. On a side note, Vostok is one brand that I don’t mind opening as much because of the “floating” case back and flat rubber gasket and separate compression ring. All in all, though, it’s certainly better to avoid any unnecessary opening. I’m actually pretty happy with the Promaster, now that I cleaned it up but I felt like I had to get that frustration off my chest.

@Group_Anonymous

3 жыл бұрын

I open all my dive watches to ensure the correct movement is present. I buy a lot on the grey market and am weary of fakes

Why did you have to clean it out? Why would you not just send it back?

I have lots of Citizen watches, no issues whatsoever. Maybe yours is second hand or a return.

I would probably suspect that watch had been opened after it left Citizen. Did you get that from a seller in Europe ? I've been wanting a NY0040-09E. But im not gonna buy from offshore.

@SuburbanPathfinder

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. It was from a seller in Luxembourg, I believe, and the watch was shipped from Germany.

@M3LTUP

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuburbanPathfinder That's why i held back. I was afraid some of the EU sellers may ship franken watches. They know it takes weeks to arrive. And people will be unlikely to ask for a return .I just got an NY0085 from a U.S. seller. No problems.

@Bonpu

2 жыл бұрын

Just order from amazon Germany. Quite affordable too.

@sheepdog-kp9hb

Ай бұрын

I got mine about 5 years ago from Germany looks and works perfect still

I have had this model for about a year and after watching your review i had a look at mine and there are three dust specks in mine by the date window and also one near the twelve !

@SuburbanPathfinder

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a bummer!

@Mike-kc8rl

3 жыл бұрын

Yes im not going to pull it apart but i also have a standard black one ive got just a couple of weeks ago and its perfect and it also hacks !

@SuburbanPathfinder

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mike-kc8rl , a model with hacking would be very cool!

Hello, how comes the crown is a the left side of the watch? Must be hard to use. Is it a protection to avoid breaking it when diving, or something like this? Thanks

@SuburbanPathfinder

3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s just for comfort to keep the crown from digging into your wrist. It takes a little getting used to. I find it’s easiest to set the time by holding the watch upside down and still working the crown with my right hand.

@pierrethomas7376

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuburbanPathfinder Thanks, that makes sens indeed :)

@salty_terminal_civilian5374

3 жыл бұрын

@@pierrethomas7376 it's great if you wear watches on your right hand

@stan4097

3 жыл бұрын

It's not really an issue. You just take the watch off and turn it upside down to wind or adjust the time/date. I actually prefer it on the left.

@Ed30675

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuburbanPathfinder agreed...I do similar to you and it works fine...it is extremely comfortable as a result of the crown wheel being on the left...

This is why, if I can help it, I've learned from hard experience like this to always try to buy a watch in person. Often you can't, and then it's a gamble. For example, in buying a Japanese Domestic Model Citizen PMD56 Promaster Land direct from Japan. It's a gamble that it will not have a defect.

@SuburbanPathfinder

2 жыл бұрын

I believe that’s a wise policy. Thanks.

I'm seriously considering getting this watch have you seen the Blue version ?

@SuburbanPathfinder

4 жыл бұрын

Junior Johnson yes. This is the blue version.

@juniorjohnson5961

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry about that , it looks black guess I should have paid more attention now that I look at it I can see it !🧐

@SuburbanPathfinder

4 жыл бұрын

Well the lighting in my studio’s not the best. Anyway, aside from my dust problem I really like the watch.

Are you sure its not a Chinese copy as Citizen don't usually have these issues?

@SuburbanPathfinder

4 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure. If it’s a counterfeit, they really went the distance to make it convincing. The movement and everything else seems correct.

Watchmakers pressure test the watch after their work.

why's the crown on the left side, does it have a purpose to be on that side ?

@SuburbanPathfinder

Жыл бұрын

Just comfort I think. Keeps it from jabbing the back of your hand when you flex your wrist.

well i take a flashlight and i see inside the crystal.. i see very small dust inside... this is normal? many some lume dust? metal dust?

@SuburbanPathfinder

3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s very difficult to exclude all tiny particles from the inside of a watch case. Some contamination can probably be found, under very close scrutiny, in just about any watch.

@mikemike5253

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuburbanPathfinder yes true.. and my father's seamaster has tiny dust lol

@aussie8114

3 жыл бұрын

Solution... don’t shine a flashlight at it 😂

Did you send it back? I mean usually theyll replace or refund your money

@SuburbanPathfinder

28 күн бұрын

No. I fixed it myself.

You got a watch with a bad case of the Made-In-China.

You can't expect much from a diver's watch once it was opened not by Citizen..

This watch is under warrunty surely. Why not just send it back rather than taking it apart and voiding it

Should have taken it to a jewelry,watch guy

They don’t pressure test all individual watches for ISO.

@SuburbanPathfinder

4 жыл бұрын

Auto Correct, thanks. That actually makes me feel better.

@fat3lwound

3 жыл бұрын

Only Omega and Rolex does.

@DFlemming

9 ай бұрын

On watches issued with a ISO 6425, every watch needs to be checked, not just a sample version. This is what I've read diving in deep into the ISO 6525 requirements. Omega, Tag, Rolex aren't ISO compliant, they go on brand reputation and yes, they also check every watch on their own requirements before leaving the factory.

my friend... you focus to the tree and forget the woods!!!

@SuburbanPathfinder

Жыл бұрын

I guess.

Just bought mine from a dealer on eBay “New” I see smudges or maybe even moisture. Contacted dealer to hopefully get an answer

@SuburbanPathfinder

Жыл бұрын

I hope you get satisfaction. FWIW, I’ve had no further problems with the watch. Wearing it right now, actually.

@Josh-sm8mj

Жыл бұрын

@@SuburbanPathfinder I also noticed the bezel makes a noise if i tap it. Metal touching together. Does your happen to do that as well?

@SuburbanPathfinder

Жыл бұрын

@@Josh-sm8mj oh yeah. Definitely. Just tapped mine to confirm. These bezels are notorious for being quite “rattly”. I think that’s completely normal.

@Josh-sm8mj

Жыл бұрын

@@SuburbanPathfinder Awesome thanks for the quick reply.

@SuburbanPathfinder

Жыл бұрын

@@Josh-sm8mj no problem. I think the tolerances are pretty loose to deal with sand etc. Probably because of the Promaster Diver’s extensive use by various military entities. At least that’s always been my suspicion.

Send it back and explain to them Why the complaints??

@SuburbanPathfinder

3 жыл бұрын

panos vrionis, largely because this is a product review channel. Thanks for watching!

@panosvrionis8548

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuburbanPathfinder I understand that😊im watching many reviews my self but 99%its not citizens fault. Something happened after the watch left the factory. And the thumbnail suggest that citizen QC is bad🧐 I bought mine 170€ from citizen authorized dealer in Greece. I saw the watch first ☺️

Brand new, they stopped making it in 2004. 1993 to 2 004.

@equaliser2265

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe serviced badly since.

Seiko suck's , normally Citizen are clean watches! Sorry you've got a Monday piece!!!

Sounds like yours was assembled by a newbie on a Friday afternoon.

He said taint

@SuburbanPathfinder

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Citizen watches have no quality control. Worst misalignment and dust on dial I’ve ever seen. These NY00 divers are junk

I do NOT believe this guy when he says there was debris and smuding inside this watch. He has shown no clear pictures of this. I think he is making it up just as click bait.

@SuburbanPathfinder

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

This guy is a LIAR. There is no way a top company like Citizen would make watches with "crud" or debris on the dial! This guy is just making it up to get views on youtube!

was it 2nd hand purchase ? or conversely why the hell did you not return it to the dealer and get a refund ?

@SuburbanPathfinder

Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t supposed to be 2nd hand. I bought it from a dealer. But the dealer was in Europe. It took quite a while to arrive and it was easier for me to address the problem myself than to ship it back to Luxembourg.