My father bought this watch in 1998. He gave it to me 7 years ago. I am wearing it everyday since then. He wore it every day, too. 20 years of use, no service - works just fine. Not taken off for swimming or sleeping. It is there and does the job. Amazing.

@charlie-obrien

5 жыл бұрын

I just ordered mine today from an online jeweler in Italy. $190.00 (w/ online disc code) got me a SS bracelet and free shipping. I can't wait to get in the water with it, or use it out hiking, or time my mac 'n cheese with it or hand it off to my son in 20 years.

@crazyhorse5592

5 жыл бұрын

@@charlie-obrien May I ask what site that was?

@lionary

4 жыл бұрын

@@InGratitudeIam If you bought and live in the US, did you have to pay anything material in terms of custom duties or fees or what have you?

@Outlaw_j84

3 жыл бұрын

This is good news

@toki9367

2 жыл бұрын

I would go for a service by the way. It is like with car, if you don't want to run the risk your watch stop working out of the blue, you should service. It deserves it after all, doesn't it!?

I have this Watch its more than 10yrs it still working good

FYI - A good dive watch will have an extremely short hour hand compared to the minute hand. The reason is that when diving, it's critical to have your minute hand jump out at you. Minutes are what matter when diving, not hours.

@WatchGeek

4 жыл бұрын

But here the minute hand is too short, not the hour hand

@pointshit

9 ай бұрын

​@@WatchGeek if the hands were any bigger it would clutter the dial

@jouwenlee7829

Ай бұрын

I like and accept everything of my coke bezel NY085, with module 8204 (hand wind and hacking second hand), including the mechanism flaw in resistance in day changing using the crown. The only flaws I wish it doesn’t have is the short-hand-syndrome. It makes reading time, distinguishing hour and minute hands a tad slower either day time and especially at night relying on lume.

I have the SKX, this Citizen, the Casio Duro, the Orient Ray 2 Raven, the Vostok Amphibia, the Cressi Manta and I have to say that the look of the SKX is something else unmathced by any other diver, but the Citizen got me like I wasn't expecting it to. I love them all, the Ray is the epitome of perfection, there's not a single mistake there, the Amphibia has so much personality it's crazy, the Duro is just impossible to hate, so much value for the money, and the Manta does the job efficently as you would expect from a company that sells diving related stuff. Divers are truly amazing to me.

I chose the ny0040 over the skx because it has seen actual militaristic use. To me something with any kind of pedigree is always a huge plus.

I have both, but the Citizen is my favorit, it is more refined.

I own both...Much prefer the Citizen, windable much more accurate. looks fab

@Dilshan_Kasun

3 жыл бұрын

How is the Citizen's crystal holding up against the scratches friend? I thought of buying one,will I be able to use it for many years?

@loscabos3532

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dilshan_Kasun i own one and it scratch really easy, only negative point in my opinion

@Dilshan_Kasun

2 жыл бұрын

@@loscabos3532 Yes friend,I ordered a tempered therefore. I applied it before using

The perfectly smooth glossy dial and the embossed markers make this a SKX Killer.

Being a long-term skx fan boy I was amazed at the quality and consistent accuracy of the citizen. I now have 3 in my collection. The original, the fully lumed dial and the blue Pepsi. Great watches.

After some time of watching compare videos I bought the Citizen at a diver's shop for € 190,-- . It's a NY0040-09EE build in July 2021 with the updated Miyota work 8204 which is hackable. It looks stunning with the black dial, all elements accurately in place. It holds time that I have to look twice before realizing that it hasn't lost or gained a second during the last 3 days. I wear it 24/7 because it's so comfortable with the crown at the 8 o'clock position and it keeps the watch running accurate. The lume is absolutly readable throughout the night without extra exposure to light in between. My only complaint is working the crown because it can be a bit fiddly to get it back in. Other than that I'm happy as I can be with my purchase. It will accompany me to Africa next year as my Safari watch.

Great video. Just purchased this watch and I'm blown away by how great it is. This must be the perfect holiday watch to wear without concerns

I was fortunate enough to make the ny0040 my first auto divers watch in my collection and about 8months later I still absolutely love it, I was considering the skx at the time because of the availability of the citizen but one came up at a good price and I bit the bullet, so glad I have one.

The Citizen NY and NH series are both on my "watch to buy" list. Lovely and cheap watches. Thanks for the nice review...

I love the SKX, but I like the Citizen even more.

Great review. Keep up the good work. I have the ny0040, blue dial, and I love it. I agree, the dial is special and needs to be seen to be appreciated.

Great review as always. All comments are spot on and I got nothing to ad. My vote goes for NY0040.

No contest, The Citizen. Its just beautiful and accurate. Purchased this watch twice before and sold them...Why? Never again. I have the blue dial on the blue rubber, its fabulous. Sits well alongside my Combat Sub, also a brilliant watch in every way. PS. My Citizen has hacked since I got it. It has the characteristic wobble when you shake it but the second does halt when I pull the crown to adjust....Very starnge! Its running at plus 3 a day.

Great review. As a collector I have many seiko’s, orient and citizen watches. I have to say in the fine detail citizen have it. There is something special going on when you have one on your wrist especially the diver range.

Glad I found this video before I pulled the trigger on the skx. Thx

Citizen was dominating Seiko in this price category even before their move to exclusivity and limited, new versions of old designs for a premium price. Add the extra QC issues with Seikos on top of that and it is really a no brainer which brand gives you more bang for your budget tier watch collecting buck.

Very good review. I don't dive, however I do a lot of sailing. You have definitely aroused my curiosity with this one. I only have one Citizen in my collection and it is an Eco - Drive.

Having received my citizen pro diver , identical to this i can only agree with you on ever point and this shines above the skx , that I also own , I really love the citizen thanks Shane uk 🇬🇧

Great reivew as always, and this Citizen is awsome watch. I have one.

I have one that was bought in 1999 , no idea of manufacture date. It still has the factory stainless bracelet with adjustable clasp ( no idea why the adjuster it is not on every watch in the universe ) . Belonged to my father and I got it when he passed away. It is an excellent watch , never opened , never serviced and keeps excellent time. I think the build quality is very good.. Mine has quite a scratched crystal and a slightly mis-aligned chapter ring , but it is my most prized watch and will never get rid of it for obvious reasons. Also , my caseback is not laser etched , its deeper.

This review made me buy the ny0040-17l with the blue sunburst dial ☀️

Thanks for the video. I just purchased my first Citizen automatic diver, the blue version to replace my SKX. I still regret selling my SKX because now I can't find it at the same price. I never thought that such basic entry level watches can get that expensive. Greetings from Scotland!

Thankful that I watched your video before buying. The thing with the crown position now also appears important to me. Thank you for explaining.

I own both this and the skx009. Both have their merits and very hard to say which is best. You can't go wrong with either watch.

Good video review and useful ! Thank you !

I’m all the way for the Citizen! Thanks for the review!

Ive got one these. I must of got mine back in 98.. still works well today. I've been diving with it and worn it all the time.. its seen some action...

Great review. Thanks.

I really love my promaster!! I had to ditch the blue strap it came on, as it cheapened it's look. Now with a new seat belt NATO, it no longer looks like a kids toy watch. I do not own an SKX, but still want one.

I got one for my birthday a few months ago, and I love it, since the first day it's my daily watch in a tough environment. It's certified for 200m, but it was tested for 500m by the Italian navy commando when it was chosen as the standard equipment by their "navy seals" for almost 10 year.

Wow, cool that you made a video of this oldie. One of my favourite auto divers. Thank you! It is out of stock at Silvertime... Zs

@WatchGeek

5 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they'll have it again

Came today I'm impressed got the blue version with red and blue Bezel 👌 thank you this video convinced me !

Love mine. Has a NATO strap & gets rotated regularly with my G Shocks & ProTreks. Keeps excellent time with fantastic lume.

This watch is amazing! In Europe you can buy the ocean blue version, that one is stunning! I'll buy it for my next birthday. Luckily i am from the Netherlands, so no problem!

Good review. I've wanted one with a blue dial, but I'm not paying the inflated price people want for them.

i have both, skx and this ny0040, in fact i added the Ray2 of Orient. So among this 3 divers watches, I like the ny0040 so much. it has the substantial quality durability accuracy and beauty all together.

I have Seiko SKX007 for 2 years. Its good watch, but I am going to give it to my father. I bought Citizen NY0040 for myself!

The SEIKO Z 22 strap is awesome! When mine broke I bought a new one for $50.

I just ordered a new one over the skx013k1. Thanks for the video!

Good review, I agree with you, owning both watches. But you forgot to mention another important feature of the citizen: the strap does have an extra insert in which the springbars are sitting. It is a small metal tube which makes it virtually impossible for the springbars to be torn out of the strap. The skx does not have this feature. Another example for the seriousness of the citizen as a dive watch. Also, the bracelet that can be purchased for the citizen does have a ratchet diver extension (to be fair, it lacks classical microadjustments). The skx's jubilee bracelet, on the other hand, is very comfortable and also prevents the sharp crown guard from digging in my wrist (not so with rubber strap, for whatever reason...)

Interestingly enough, the hands on my Seiko Monster are quite short, especially the the hour hand. This has never been an issue for me.

Great video. I TOTALLY AGREE

Beautiful watch.I had the blue version-gorgeous dial.But it has one major issue-the miyota has too noisy rotor.

I Have the skx and the citizen must say love the citizen a bit more excellent watch ,great video tnx

I just got mine adjusted. This is one highly functional timepiece. And it is green.

This NY0040 is a wonderful watch. I always go back to this watch in spite of having 20 others to choose from. I will never part with it. I have the white dial (lume) version. Nothing wears as comfortably as this one, even if my Orient also is very nice to wear. Beautiful.

Love it!Own one bought with 50 euro,second hand, chip money for excelent diver's watch!

I just bought one of those and didn’t realize what I was buying I like it better than the SKX I think it’s has just as much heritage as the seiko.It gives me much pleasure when I look down on my wrist and see it I’m starting to put this one in the I don’t want to mess it up category instead of my daily driver

Good job Watch Geek - I've got a NY0040 and always thought about a SKX but have resisted so far (I'll probably get one soon anyhow). I bought a limited NY0080 recently and was disappointed with the bezel, it was really sloppy in comparison to the NY0040.

Ive got the dark blue European release one. Awesome little watch!

@jonathanwestergren444

4 жыл бұрын

JkandI still happy with it?

Nice piece. Nice review. But I'd have to say I prefer the seiko skx although I would like one of these in my collection.

I have many Seiko's but this NY0040 is the sharpest diver I have seen - Hands down

I own 3 different Citizen dive watches and one Seiko Sumo Hulk. I can enjoy all, but also prefer the eco drives I own.

Excellent review

@WatchGeek

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

One hack about this sitizen's stiff strap is to heat it and make a shape of your hand. I did and and strap became much more comfortable! I love my NY0040

The advantage of having a flat logo on the back instaed of being raised is that it doesnt dig into the skin.

I own both. I love both.

I have been looking for a good entry level watch to buy....though I did not buy this watch (but I ended up buying the NH8380-15E & BN0156-05E), I initially did spend days and many hours looking through all the different Seiko 'dive' watches of various designs....such as the Prospex series and Seiko 5 series.....and many of the online shops mainly featued Seiko watches....but somehow, there was just something that kept me from buying a Seiko: strangely, i could not find any affordable Seiko watch that defined me. Then I looked at Citizen, and it didn't take me long to decide why I chose Citizen: it just fitted me. I own a automatic divers 200m Citizen (bought it in 2011; cant recall the model but it has a Red-Blue bezel and it says 21 Jewels), used it till the strap spoilt, the glass surface was scratched....and I just took it out that day to use when my G shock Casio spoilt when it dropped on the floor. It just worked! In a nutshell, somehow I think Citizen, despite lacking in design diversity as compared to Seiko, is top when it comes to precision. And that is one very important factor. And thanks for making this video....gonna keep the two Citizens for my son when he grows up!

Awesome review. I have just ordered the coke NY0085 as the blue sun burst looks too glossy for me and the full lume would be too visible for spearfishing. I wish we could have an orange or yellow version back on sale.

Great video

this is now on sale, in romania, at around 200$. I'm also looking at the Citizen BN0190-15E Eco-drive Promaster, at around 250$. I'd get them both, but i also got a certina ds8 powermatic 80, which is a real beauty. guess i'll stick to this one, as a fan of automatic watches. i don't find the shortness of the minute hand annoying or the flouresence differences, this is actually pretty cool. i'm looking for sporty and it appears this matches my needs. Subscribed !!!!

definitely citizen... accuracy 2 sec per day for me ( I am a lucky one 😉)

@simonthewatchguy6073

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. I'm due to review it soon and the accuracy has blown my mind.

Mislio sam uzet BN0151 ali nakon ovecrecenzije ipak se odlučio za ovaj. Jedva čekam! :)

I own all the SKX models, the 0040-8E is a compliment to the collection. IMHO the inky black dial is its most defining feature. Honestly I get equal enjoyment from both brands.

Does the movement on this watch sound rough? Mine sounds like a marble falling down a hole when the rotor stops spinning.

Is the skx comes in the prospex range or it just some up graded seiko 5 ? Because this phat hour & minutes hand diver seems to be from promaster range intended for professional use - marina militare Italian navy frogman wore it for decades

I would wear my left handed crown on my right and right handed crown on my left as I usually do. ;)

Totally random, but I saw a reflection of your kid in the watch and it made me laugh because my kid only likes to bother me when im trying to film too 😆

@WatchGeek

4 жыл бұрын

Haha i didn't notice that but you're right about being bothered when filming

I would love to pick up a Citizen Automatic Diver. I have a couple of Eco-es, but no autos from Citizen.

The new version has engraved Promaster logo on crown. Still more of a tool watch than Skx, love it.

Great review, great commentary. Unless I missed it, you didn't comment on the two tone finish on both watches, with the bezel having a brushed finish and the sides of the case having a polished finish. Am I the only one who's bothered by it?

Is there available in 2 versions of packaging? With diver tank and without diver tank?

My biggest gripe is that the Minute hand isn't a bold colour. For a genuine dive watch that is paramount.

I was going to buy either a Seiko Skn805 or the Seiko SRPD76K1 but now I might just get this instead. It will be my first mechanical watch thanks

Favorite watch!

just bought the skx007, might have to buy this one too

@paulgeddes7384

4 жыл бұрын

Had both. Preferred the Citizen for several reasons. Flipped both for a Certina DS STC powermatic diver which is incoming 👍

Amazing that Seiko still can't get the bezel alignment right even on watches costing north of 1k$

I have the eco drive version - IMO it’s even better. No mechanical accuracy issues, no battery changes (at least for about twenty years). Im lucky enough to have a Rolex Explorer I love, but I wouldn’t swim with it, these Citizens are perfect for knocking around / sports / beach. At this price point I think going mechanical is risky, any maintenance will cost almost as much as the watch. I normally find a case this size a bit big, but the way these citizen divers are designed, it looks great my 7.2 wrist (probably good down to 6.5).

If you like this model , you might consider the BN0150 model , which has similar design, is solar powered and costs 130-150$ you can also get a quality metal bracelet for extra 100$

@WatchGeek

5 жыл бұрын

I know it and had the opportunity to try it on. It's a great watch but just doesn't attract me as much as this

@charlie-obrien

5 жыл бұрын

@@WatchGeek I was undecided between the two (auto vs Eco-drive) but that beautiful case was just too desirable.

I own one. I love the size and the weight. The 60 click bezel is very accurate but clicking feels kind of weird. Keeps very good time and lume is superb. No regrets for the purchase.As for Seiko,my SKX bezel aligns perfectly !!! Am I lucky ? Nice video.

Well covered! Kinda leaning toward Citizen over the better known SKX. 👍

@WatchGeek

5 жыл бұрын

I must admit I do too, now that I handled the Citizen in person, it's just more refined

@whatsonthewrist

5 жыл бұрын

You've got a nice battle going on here.😜

@Ferien7

5 жыл бұрын

Skx is ugly and many on the market nowadays have been tampered with

@owencampbell7956

5 жыл бұрын

whatsonthewrist what did you go with

Like how they gave it hacking and signed the crown as well in the silent update they have done.

You convinced me !

I agree with you. Sometimes Citizen gets less respect, unduly. Alignment is usually always there like you said. Even the eco-drive seconds hand hits the marks regularly. At least more than my Seiko solars. Not bashing Seiko, just don't understand why Citizen isn't more appreciated.

@charlie-obrien

5 жыл бұрын

Believe it or not, that is just a US thing. World wide Citizen is very well regarded.

@simeonaleksiev8690

5 жыл бұрын

Seiko has "the X factor". Cool design, rich history, participating in lots of great films, constant innovation. Citizen doesn't have that. Doesn't matter what they do and how they do it Citizen will never reach Seiko period. People just don't care about the second best.

@lootgoblin6977

5 жыл бұрын

@@simeonaleksiev8690 Would you choose brand recognition over refinement and quality? I like both but the quality control issued that Seiko reportedly has makes me want to choose citizen

@simeonaleksiev8690

5 жыл бұрын

@@lootgoblin6977 I have tried Citizen watches many times. The only 1 I like is the gen 1 aqualand and thats it. It is not about brand recognition. Seiko does the things in the way I like and Citizen doesn't. Just for the record I have seen Citizens with bad misalignment too.

@lootgoblin6977

5 жыл бұрын

@@simeonaleksiev8690 I've never had any issues with citizen watches, and my father has one that has lasted him 19 years (and counting) which is why I like them. To each his own, everyone has different styles and tastes:)

best review of this watch so far imho

@WatchGeek

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words 🙏

does Citizen even sell these Stateside anymore.I,m interested in one.had no idea there was a great time deviation on SKX if not worn daily.one thing I know of the NYOO4O is the weighted rotor on the miota 8215 movement only spins in one direction which obviously makes the Seiko a more efficient movement.

@eleventy-seven

7 ай бұрын

EBay always has loads got US dealers. Bought mine for $215. It needed service as it was 55 sec plus a day. Three weeks later Citizen sent it back plus 5 sec avg since.

having both and being, better said used to be, seiko fan since the late 70's, ill take a citizen anytime over my seiko's nowadays.

Excellent review I prefer Skx don’t know if you mentioned hacking capabilities and also I believe the citizen was used by Italian military I would of mentioned that .. just sub good job!

@WatchGeek

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊 I appreciate the subscription. The citizen can be wound but it doesn't have hacking. I forgot to mention the usage in Italian Navy 😔

I had seikos the 007 and a 1000 euro seiko. And both had misslined indices. I think it must be pure luck to have a seiko with perfect lining 😂 now i switch to citizen. I am super happy.

I'm also a Seiko fan but objectively speaking Citizen is much better brand. I've got two SKX's (007 and 009) and a blue NY0040 (plus black on delivery :D ). For me NY0040 is a better watch in every single way. I've got ten Seiko's and half of them have quality control issues - bezel misalignments, chapter ring misalignments, date misalignments. This sucks completely. My only Seiko's without quality control issues are Japan domestic SARB models. I've got 5 Citizen's and NONE of them has any, even the smallest issue, they are all a way better quality watches. Seiko design is great, I love my Monsters, SKX's but I can't stand their garbage quality. Citizen movements are also much more accurate than Seiko's. My vintage, about 40 years old Citizen Eagle 7 is more accurate than new Seiko's with 4R36 or even 6R15.

@Chris-es3wf

5 жыл бұрын

Citizen sold it's soul, and Seiko continues to innovate (Spring Drive, etc.). That's why Seiko holds more respect in the watch world, and that's why you own multiple Seiko's despite the QC issues. Seiko is simply a better BRAND, despite the issues you noted. Period. (And don't even get me started on GS and Credor....)

@vincenzostr4488

5 жыл бұрын

@@Chris-es3wf I am a Seiko fan but i must admit Citizen is better quality

@greekwatchcollector722

5 жыл бұрын

If you want accurate buy QUARTZ.And SEIKO is much better brand than CITIZEN.If you look at seikos history youl see that they founded in 1881 and they create the first automatic chronograph watch the first quartz chronograph the first quartz watch the KINETIC and SPRINC DRIVE tehnology.

@vincenzostr4488

5 жыл бұрын

Look at the Citizen Grand Classic for me that watch is perfection

@MrDanijelho

5 жыл бұрын

Upravo sam kupio crni preko dicta.hr prezadovoljan sam

Looking for one of this ....

Great news , citizen will release a new ny008 series in October that is exact copy of ny0040 but with diferent hour markings and hands (they did a limited run in September for asia market) , Also orient will release a new series of diver watches AA000, that look like orient mako USA.

@Barnaby_bo

5 жыл бұрын

So if it's got different hands and different markers it's not "exactly the same" then is it. Why make a stupid comment. Simple fact is the ny0040 is not being produced any more and if you want one your gonna have to pay more and more as time goes on. No doubt about it this watch is a classic.

I had the one with the yellow dial .

Do anyone know what is different between NY0040-09E and NY0040-09EE? because I do not know what to pick. Its case is different? Quality different? Something?

hi great video, i have 6.3 inc wrist does it fit my wrist btw whats your size

Good review and I agree with your opinion. My citizen pro master with dark blue sunburst dial gets more wrist time than my SKX. But there is one big disappointment, there are no aftermarket bracelet with fitting end links. I don't like bracelets with straight end links.

@mladenradujkovic8988

5 жыл бұрын

stranno strannovasrr good point on aftermarket braclet

@keno77

5 жыл бұрын

Now there is, I found the original bracelet with curved endlinks for about 100 bucks, a little expensive yes, but it's 100 % original.

@strannostrannovasrr

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

@deanwaller8283

Жыл бұрын

Fkm tropic rubber strap,looks better than any bracelet

@e28forever30

Жыл бұрын

Long Island watch has a nice bracelet with solid end links for this watch, looks stunning on a Jubilee bracelet !