PRO Drummer Teaches You A MUST KNOW SKILL | The "Push Pull" Technique

In today's KZread video, we'll cover a MUST-KNOW drumming skill...How to play consistent 16th notes with your lead hand using the "Push Pull" technique.
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Playing constant, consistent 16th notes with your right hand (your left hand if you’re left-handed) can be challenging, but this is an essential skill for working drummers.
I've released a full lesson with all 3 techniques inside my online drumming school Stanton Moore Drum Academy.
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  • @grimdrum2396
    @grimdrum2396 Жыл бұрын

    This is an excellent video. I am 67 years old and the push pull came naturally to me through time but not nearly as clean as you are playing here. I will be working on this everyday. Thank you for this demonstration. Btw, Neil Peart alway said that Tom Sawyer was the most difficult song for him to play because of the 16th notes on the hi hat. Thanks again Stanton!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words and thank you for turning in! 🙌🏼

  • @LocaliLLocano
    @LocaliLLocano Жыл бұрын

    Gadson’s push pull was something I would watch on vhs and dvd. Once you get it then it’s second nature. You’re dropping knowledge for the next generation of drummers

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 🙏🏼

  • @williamperri3437

    @williamperri3437

    Жыл бұрын

    I played in a punk rock band for years in the 90's and I still struggle with my 16th note Back Beat 😢 it just takes proper technique and a lot of endurance. A lot of R&B cats keep that right hand soft on the hats as well. On a completely different note considering that we are both R&B fanatics I just discovered a track by The Platters that I grew up listening to and I think it's Purdie playing a very early shuffle... The Platters "with this ring!"

  • @Gruuvin1
    @Gruuvin12 ай бұрын

    Funky Drummer is such a great groove!I'm a 50 year old drummer that gigged jazz/blues/rock in my 20s and 30s.... Then I learned to code, to make a much better living and have only played a couple years in church in the last 15 years. I'm gonna be setting up again soon, and I am totally gonna get into some of these lessons. There's no time like now to introduce some new and better habits! (I'm excited about developing a lot more Moeller and stealing some Keith Carlock) Thanks for the inspiration, Stanton!

  • @MrCharlieroo
    @MrCharlieroo Жыл бұрын

    this has been working for me: play along to this playlist and in this order. do not stop. keep the order as listed. if you get tired, go back and forth between 16th's & 8th's. but, again, don't stop. eventually you'll be able to play all with 16th's. (one hand) I don't really do a push-pull technique, it's more like I'm turning a knob or using a screwdriver if that makes sense. stumbled upon this "technique" but it works. at least for me. you can easily sneak in/add to playlist, "Funky Drummer" between tracks 5 & 6. The last two tracks have more of a swing feel to them. good luck. relax. have fun. 1. No Ordinary Romance - Al Jarreau 2. Give A Little More Lovin' - Al Jarreau 3. Golden Girl - Al Jarreau 4. 99 - Toto 5. I Keep Forgetting' - Michael McDonald 6. Georgy Porgy - Toto 7. Stop Loving You - Toto 8. Pleasure - Al Jarreau . 9. Road Of Broken Hearted Men - Bobby Blue Bland. Drummers: Steve Ferrone, Jeff Porcaro, Clyde Stubblefield.

  • @stanclarke8030
    @stanclarke8030 Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate you providing the principle and encouraging our own implementation.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for saying that! 👊🏼

  • @Volodiaschneider
    @Volodiaschneider Жыл бұрын

    Quite refreshing to see an actual musical example of how those fancy techniques can be applied. If you search for push/pull or moeller on KZread, 95% are demonstrations on a pad. That technique translates beautifully on the kit in that context, thanks for the lesson Stanton

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words. 🙏🏼 I’m glad you’re digging it. 🙌🏼

  • @DamienMargo
    @DamienMargo Жыл бұрын

    hey Stanton thanks so much! I really appreciate the immaculate feel and finesse you put into this simple beat. I hope to get it just as well eventually. (and the funky drummer beat too). Also great tone, tuning, and overall sound in this video.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Damien! 🙏🏼

  • @kellyyacco6934
    @kellyyacco6934 Жыл бұрын

    Love this Stanton🥁Thank You.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼

  • @MusicandMonsters
    @MusicandMonsters Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @bretdorton
    @bretdorton Жыл бұрын

    Good point

  • @JulianFernandez
    @JulianFernandez Жыл бұрын

    great stuff. thanks.

  • @thomasnappo6309
    @thomasnappo6309 Жыл бұрын

    Well done..glad you put this video out there..thx

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for turning in! 🙌🏼

  • @mladenpalenkas7750
    @mladenpalenkas7750 Жыл бұрын

    Stanton is such an amazing teacher and drummer with his own drum skills, one of the best groove drummers and very musical. Every time I love to hear his drumming. 👍

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words! 🙏🏼

  • @mladenpalenkas7750

    @mladenpalenkas7750

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stantonmooremusic You're allways welcome !!!!

  • @CharlesTPrimm
    @CharlesTPrimm Жыл бұрын

    Excellent! Thank you.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼🥁🙌🏼

  • @steveross8326
    @steveross83265 ай бұрын

    Great!...super informative...thanx Stanton

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for tuning in! 🙌🏼

  • @tomnelsondrums
    @tomnelsondrums Жыл бұрын

    Stanton you’re so good and so humble . I appreciate that you worked this out in your 30’s. For me I was 50 during Covid when I discovered it and yes, how did I miss that for so long. I worked it out watching TV too 😂. You’re a great teacher too, appreciate your approach.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your kind words Tom. 🙏🏼

  • @ColdCache
    @ColdCache Жыл бұрын

    Snare sounds superb! Great teacher.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 🙏🏼

  • @8BitEggplant3
    @8BitEggplant3 Жыл бұрын

    I clicked the video because I saw the Tip's shirt in the thumbnail, didn't even realize it was Stanton Moore wearing the shirt! Love the specification/distinction between push-push/pull-push, I think it really makes a difference when you start working the accents in.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for clicking and tuning in! 🙌🏼

  • @MarioCalzadaMusic
    @MarioCalzadaMusic Жыл бұрын

    My god, this lesson is so helpful!! Thank you very much!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for turning in! 🙏🏼

  • @torbjornsommar6054
    @torbjornsommar6054 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks to it all. You were the first to talk about the reverse pull push. Its unlocked and unblocked my mind and thinking wath is right or wrong. At last you GROOWE tha Funk.👍

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼

  • @zikandgroovefr
    @zikandgroovefr Жыл бұрын

    A really valuable video for learning. I enjoy your to the point explanation and demonstration. I'm learning a lot as a professional drummer. Thank you! 💯

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you and I’m glad you’re digging it! 🙌🏼🥁🙏🏼

  • @mark52111
    @mark52111 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, Stanton! I greatly appreciate the share. I play 16th single hand with more of a Moeller technique (wrist bobbing up and down) but I play swing/shuffle patterns with a open/close technique similar to what you demonstrate (I believe). Going to work on straightening that shuffle technique into a 16th pattern.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for tuning in! 🙌🏼

  • @thomp9054
    @thomp9054 Жыл бұрын

    Sweet video👍 I like to practice both push/pull and pull/push. Both useful for sure

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼

  • @drumhead9034
    @drumhead9034 Жыл бұрын

    Mycket bra! Very good, translated from Swedish. I always get? happy when I see and hear you play. This is not as easy as it might look, but really worth practicing, a lot.😊

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼🥁👊🏼

  • @berniebrowne5855
    @berniebrowne5855 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼

  • @CraigThorneDrums
    @CraigThorneDrums8 ай бұрын

    I have been learning this technique by watching metal drummers such as David Diepold and James Payne

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    8 ай бұрын

    🙌🏼🥁👊🏼

  • @aaronsparks9012
    @aaronsparks9012 Жыл бұрын

    A very thuro lesson Stanton nicely explained enough too make a subscriber out of me nice job thanks!!!🙏🤘

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 🙏🏼

  • @ghdrum
    @ghdrum Жыл бұрын

    When I watch Stanton playing drums it reminds me of that clip of Charlie Parker watching Buddy Rich with the BIGGEST grin on his face. He's having the best time of his life. Absolute pure joy. Keep the fire burnin' :)

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful story. Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @loudpraise9395
    @loudpraise9395 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks sir I love it

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼🥁🙌🏼

  • @bigl6322
    @bigl63228 ай бұрын

    Very cool. I’m trying switch to open handed drumming instead of cross stick and my left hand suuuuuuucks. I can get it with my right, but this is gonna take some work. Nice groove, you make it seem approachable, thanks

  • @flashfan1122

    @flashfan1122

    5 ай бұрын

    It's tough! My left is still super weak but I just play open handed because it feels most natural

  • @shanebrent2227
    @shanebrent2227 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @claudiodepujadas414
    @claudiodepujadas414 Жыл бұрын

    Man, super useful and important technique, wish I'd been working on this years earlier! We saw Garage a troi at Ardmore music hall last night, incredible show, thanks for the inspiration!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼 Glad you’re digging it!

  • @williamperri3437

    @williamperri3437

    Жыл бұрын

    I pass Ardmore Music hall every night to walk my dogs! Was Stanton there? Edit: 😱 just discovered that band stanton! Just briefly watched you guys perform for KEXP and your snare drum solo was on fire. Your Technique is better than ever! I liked how you use the Para diddle diddle as sort of a shuffle. I do that myself.

  • @TopDownDrumming
    @TopDownDrumming Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love this lesson! Such a key skill, thanks for sharing this!!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for tuning in!

  • @petermorris3312
    @petermorris3312 Жыл бұрын

    I've been trying to get the 16 on the high hat and its been driving me crazy. This really helps. Thank you Stanton. Please everyone check this guy out - particularly garage a trois (one of the all time genius band names). Also Gadson who is just such a king!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼🥁🙏🏼

  • @jhardycarroll
    @jhardycarroll Жыл бұрын

    I love that Stanton discovered this after playing professionally for more than a decade. Many successful drummers revisit what they think they know to change it up (Dave Weckl, Neil Peart, and many others) so they prove there's always something more to learn. Try to play Use Me without this technique!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼🥁🙌🏼

  • @Richard-cq4kv
    @Richard-cq4kv Жыл бұрын

    The slow- mo wrist shot is the most badass thing ever, will you do a compilation vid including a slow-mo wrist shot of the guitarist and bassist jamming along?

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. My team Nick Solnick, Dallas Quick and Stan Zlotkowski worked hard on that! 🙌🏼

  • @Music_Head
    @Music_Head Жыл бұрын

    Sinead O'Connor's "I Am Stretched On Your Grave". That song is based on the the "Funky Drummer" beat. Though probably not as good as Stanton played it here...

  • @portnickos
    @portnickos Жыл бұрын

    Man, this is soooo cool!! It looks and sounds so smooth and funky! I guess I'm more of an "up-down" guy...Although I'm pretty sure fingers are doing some work too. Great lesson, man...Love it!!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks my man! I’m so glad you dig it. I know how much you love 16th note grooves! 🙌🏼🥁👊🏼

  • @dtsdigitalden5023
    @dtsdigitalden5023 Жыл бұрын

    I pull push too! Great video man.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼🥁🙌🏼

  • @joshuajuaire8757
    @joshuajuaire87576 ай бұрын

    Please do a video of what’s in your drumstick bag I would really love to know

  • @SKragseth
    @SKragseth Жыл бұрын

    Nice and clean man! Love those K's

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 🙏🏼

  • @DesignRhythm

    @DesignRhythm

    Жыл бұрын

    Those are Kerope's which are different than the K's. More of a classic 60's sound from my understanding.. but yes, they sound amazing. Not cheap!

  • @nicksaya
    @nicksaya Жыл бұрын

    First time I saw this was in 80s with one of my drum teachers , Tommy Campbell. He’s pretty incredible at this.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice! 🙌🏼

  • @webstercat

    @webstercat

    Жыл бұрын

    Went to Berklee with Tommy in late 70s. Great guy as well. He played a throw together set as I remember. Monster player.

  • @benjaminpeternorris
    @benjaminpeternorris4 ай бұрын

    This is really interesting to hear how you flip the technique backwards. I tend to play my 16th notes using more of a condensed Moeller technique within the wrist, rather than push/pull - although there are some elements of it. I've often heard it referred to by many drummers as 'shank/tip' technique. I struggled for years trying to speed up 'shank/tip' as when you play it slowly it works, but as you speed it up your wrist can tighten up until you reach a speed bottle neck. It wasn't until I asked Larnell Lewis to break his technique down, that he suggested flipping the technique on its head in a way that it opens up, rather than closes it down. So in my head I have to think 'tip/shank' instead of 'shank/tip' (ie backwards like you suggested). So I am thinking of placing the 'tip' first on the 'ah' of 4, before the 'shank' on the 1 of the next bar. This way I'm thinking of playing the 16th note on the way down, before the 8th note which opens up my technique, rather than trying to squeeze in a 16th note after the 8th note on the way up which closes it down. Just flipping the way my brain thought about it completely transformed the way I was able to approach it.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    4 ай бұрын

    Very cool. Yes, sometimes flipping it can help! 🙌🏼

  • @robertdowler3347
    @robertdowler3347 Жыл бұрын

    The Late Great Rufus Thomas did a tune titled Do The Push And Pull. I have the Instructional Book,Give The Drummer Some.Thanks Sir for the great Drum Tip,very helpful,too.

  • @petelawrie6310
    @petelawrie6310 Жыл бұрын

    My first drum teacher taught me a similar tecnique that goes ' tip shank tip shank' etc etc on the hi hat, and even though it's a bit tricky at first, it certainly has it's merits once you 'have it down'. Give it a try !!!!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼

  • @SpiritMusicMeetups
    @SpiritMusicMeetups Жыл бұрын

    Ive been calling these Throw-up doubles (funny names stuck in my student's heads) since the 90s. You can see complete breakdown on my webpage at my Channel under drums, rudiments, then double-strokes.

  • @stevebravo1422
    @stevebravo1422 Жыл бұрын

    I never even considered doing reverse push pull. but it all makes sense, I have a very very hard time with accents and grace notes on my snare hand doing the open close for doubles because i'm often 'pulling' a note on the hi hat and 'pushing' a note on the snare at the same time and it gets confusing. I feel like practicing it both ways is a must now. Phew........so much work but the results are always worth it :D

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Very cool. I hope this helps! 🙌🏼

  • @pdxfunk
    @pdxfunk Жыл бұрын

    Great video, Stanton! Glad you mention Secret Weapons...that video is like the technique bible. Jojo is a damn technique WIZARD. I'm still trying to get good with the push-pull...it's tough and takes time! It's interesting, if you think about it, when doing a double stroke roll, it's almost the same as push-pull technique but it's easier because you alternate hands and get some time to rebound for the next diddle. Whereas with single handed 16ths like this, it's harder because you have to maintain a steady stream of evenly spaced notes. But, the technique itself is very similar, both being a "drop catch" type thing! Oh yeah, one more thing: If you watch the really fast rock/metal guys, they often use push-pull but interleaved with both hands...it can get you CRAZY fast singles around the kit.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Great point about the similarity to doubles! I agree! 🙌🏼

  • @maximomartinez6843
    @maximomartinez6843 Жыл бұрын

    love u bro

  • @rickeaton3085
    @rickeaton3085 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Stanton, I was trying to play some 16th note beats recently and just failing. I'll get to work on the push pull. I have that JoJo video and just haven't worked on the push pull. Wake up call...

  • @zirconencrustedtweezers
    @zirconencrustedtweezers Жыл бұрын

    Great lesson. Michael Cavanaugh is a newer drummer who does this technique very very well.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for tuning in! 🙌🏼

  • @tostevelee
    @tostevelee Жыл бұрын

    "that might not be great for your relationship" Lol! That made me laugh. Been there.

  • @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power
    @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power Жыл бұрын

    Holy shmoly, I can't even imagine playing in backward in pull/push.....I'm digging those demo grooves...gotta jump on the kit now 😂

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼 Thanks for tuning in!

  • @radoslavradosevic4586
    @radoslavradosevic45866 ай бұрын

    thnx!!!!!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    6 ай бұрын

    🙏🏼4📺

  • @russellesimonetta9071
    @russellesimonetta9071 Жыл бұрын

    I play the push pull as a whip and pull with the fingers!

  • @sonortubelug3853
    @sonortubelug3853 Жыл бұрын

    If you bring your elbow into your body more and turn your hand over a little, it'll help. You're not going to have a right shoulder anymore after an hour and a half gig. It'll also give the groove more weight and shape. It sounds consistent but a bit ballerina at the moment. Those classic James brown beats have loads of dynamics.

  • @petelawrie6310

    @petelawrie6310

    Жыл бұрын

    Very good point. My first drum teacher drilled into me that you should always be able to see the BACK of your hand when playing as it fully helps with the ' bouncing' off the last two fingers. As you guys point out, after a while it becomes natural

  • @keelgood
    @keelgood6 ай бұрын

    Hey Stanton!! I met you a long time ago when you played the bourbon up in Lincoln Nebraska… I live in Nashville now! Working on this myself lately… I also have a case of tennis elbow on my right arm… Do you have any suggestions for how to keep playing and not ruining your elbow? I’ve got shows and rehearsals and all kinds of stuff… I can’t take an extended period of time off… I just hope I’m not totally screwing my arm over by continually playing.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    6 ай бұрын

    I was feeling some elbow tension couple years ago. I made sure to use my middle finger and thumb as my fulcrum so that I have a loose grip. Also, I was focused on the throw and making sure that I was loose upon impact as the stick hit the head or cymbals. I just try to make sure I have a loose grip at all times and good posture and am not hitting too hard. All that said I also had someone do some bodywork on me to relieve some of the tension I was feeling in the elbow. I hope that helps. 🙌🏼

  • @trieck
    @trieck Жыл бұрын

    Aces!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼

  • @siim605
    @siim6058 ай бұрын

    What snare is that and which heads etc? Sounds so good!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    8 ай бұрын

    Glad you like it! That’s my Titanium Spirit of New Orleans signature snare. 4.5x14 Coated Remo Ambassador on the top with an Ambassador snare side on the bottom. I tune the bottom head about as high as it’ll go and the top head is a little higher than medium tension. It’s available at Memphis Drum Shop and Drum Center of Portsmouth. 🙌🏼🥁👊🏼

  • @elithepitbulldog2209
    @elithepitbulldog2209 Жыл бұрын

    Plan a trip to Memphis drum shop and maybe do a lesson. I’m sure Jim Pettit would be glad to accommodate you. Would love to see you again

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼🥁🙏🏼

  • @coachcrane6636
    @coachcrane6636 Жыл бұрын

    GREAT lesson! I have been trying to work on this for a while and I get it now...back to the pad. Thank you!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear you’re digging it! 🙏🏼🥁🙌🏼

  • @granulastic
    @granulastic Жыл бұрын

    hey stanton, you don't talk at all about arm motion but that appears to be a major part of how you (and james gadson) make this work. could you comment on how you're thinking about that?

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point…the arm is definitely part of the motion. With this technique in particular the arm motion is minimized a bit. It’s important to note that the arm is moving one time for each two notes. The arm plays a bigger part in the “shank tip” motion which will be covered in the next video! 🙌🏼

  • @drumsrlife71418
    @drumsrlife71418 Жыл бұрын

    Great video and thanks for the lesson. I see during your video you are using a french grip on the hats, is that by choice or is it recommended for more control? I tend to stay with a more American-German grip but to me it looks like you are getting more stronger 16th's.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m using French for this technique, but in my next video I demonstrate the “Shank Tip” method and use more of an American grip. It just depends on what is most comfortable for you. 🙌🏼

  • @drumsrlife71418

    @drumsrlife71418

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stantonmooremusic ok thanks look forward to that video

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@drumsrlife71418 🙌🏼

  • @bestdrummer4607
    @bestdrummer4607 Жыл бұрын

    any videos on one hand fast roll?

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat Жыл бұрын

    Moving between, one motion bouncing 4 sixteenth notes (muller), then two (push pulls) equaling 4 sixteenth notes is a decent cheat, that combines techniques.

  • @DesignRhythm
    @DesignRhythm Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff... I heard Todd Sucherman say it's like a stabbing motion (horizontal) or like you are shooting pool and try to get it to sound like a shaker.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s the “Shank Tip” technique. That’s coming up in the next video! 🙌🏼

  • @DesignRhythm

    @DesignRhythm

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stantonmooremusic oh ok, gotcha thanks

  • @markchristopher420

    @markchristopher420

    Жыл бұрын

    I love how Todd also compares it to cutting a steak... tasty grooves! 😋

  • @markchristopher420

    @markchristopher420

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stantonmooremusic 😎 Just subscribed! I've owned a bunch of your CDs and DVD for a while now, but recently joined the 21st century on the web lol can't wait to study more! 👍

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@markchristopher420 Fantastic! I’m excited to have you become a member of the Academy. I think you’re going to really enjoy the content of the lessons and the community nature of the forum. Thank you for your interest and support! 🙌🏼

  • @robertkees6048
    @robertkees6048 Жыл бұрын

    My 16th note speed is suspect, so sometimes if it's above where I can pull it off, I pull a Charlie Watts. That either means something to you or not, but Charlie had a sort of unique pattern to his ride hand.

  • @krusher74
    @krusher74 Жыл бұрын

    Are you playing shoulder/tip/shoulder/tip?

  • @HenkJanDrums
    @HenkJanDrums Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. You may watch the Flag Tap Snap technique from Todd Sucherman also. Then it can be applied to ride and cup also. He has many Drumeo lessons about this. Todd Sucherman--Flag Tap Snap. Only one way to do it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJZ9xbGaf7XYcdo.html This is world class and now only used in samba. He also uses the loose in between timing concept you like, so it will fit to your New Orleans shuffle style also: Ramon Montagner - Push and Pull & Grips - Coqueiral kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5ae1c6bfte8nJM.html

  • @mukisaidi847
    @mukisaidi847 Жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @johnspeice4387
    @johnspeice4387 Жыл бұрын

    Jojos video is the stick control of the new millennium. Essential

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    A agree! A must watch for all drummers in my opinion. 🙌🏼

  • @Idolikethis
    @Idolikethis Жыл бұрын

    Jo Jo with no fro?

  • @badhabits25
    @badhabits25 Жыл бұрын

    is it essential to have the thumb on top? can you achieve this using a so called American grip?

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure, You can achieve this with an American grip. Experiment and see what feels comfortable to you.

  • @user-gr8zv3ji6d
    @user-gr8zv3ji6d3 ай бұрын

    What metronome speed are you at there please?

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    3 ай бұрын

    At which part of the video?

  • @ariesram74
    @ariesram74 Жыл бұрын

    I got that JoJo Mayer DVD!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼

  • @anatshemer1559
    @anatshemer155911 ай бұрын

    I have to admit that I don't understand the difference between what you are doing to what I see others do. It looks to me as if you let go (= open) when you drop the stick, and close (= grab' pull) when you collect it again. At 3:46 you start with "close" and at 3:50 you start with "open", but the movement itself is no different. Can someone let me know what I am not getting? thanks!

  • @leonardowada4240
    @leonardowada4240 Жыл бұрын

    Is the 16th note technique the same as double stroke?

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    That is a good question. With the “Push Pull” 16th note technique, there is a repetitive open/close motion with the lead hand. With faster doubles the right hand opens and closes then the left hand opens and closes, but the hands alternate. In both instances there is an open close involved and I suppose the techniques are similar in that way. Thanks for tuning in!

  • @vovkin1001
    @vovkin1001 Жыл бұрын

    In the seventies, a lot of drummers used this technique. Me included.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼

  • @louisdimov8956
    @louisdimov8956 Жыл бұрын

    SO YESTERDAY MAN 😂 ITS 2022 NOW!!!! LOL 😂 SO YESTERDAY!!!!

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    And yet there are still so many people who still can’t do this. There are so many songs that need consistent 16th notes. This is a timeless technique. This is not out of date. Thanks for tuning in nonetheless. 🙌🏼

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    I just went to your channel to see how you might play consistent 16th notes, yet you don’t have any videos up. Please let me know what techniques you use to play consistent 16th notes. I’m always down to learn something new. 🙌🏼

  • @vaughnmiller4371
    @vaughnmiller4371 Жыл бұрын

    Is it my device or is the audio at an extra low volume?

  • @ghettostreamlabs5724
    @ghettostreamlabs5724 Жыл бұрын

    Clyde and Procaro are the kings of the 16ths IMO. I'll try this method and see what happens. Nothing has been very successful so far.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope it helps, stay tuned because I will be demonstrating some other techniques for 16th notes as well. 👊🏼

  • @ghettostreamlabs5724

    @ghettostreamlabs5724

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stantonmooremusic sweet! Looking forward to that!!!!

  • @markbryant8321
    @markbryant8321 Жыл бұрын

    Jeff pocroro was fantastic at this

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼

  • @itsarni

    @itsarni

    Жыл бұрын

    Here you can hear Jeff’s single handed uptempo 16th notes kzread.info/dash/bejne/qpN306qngJTRabg.html

  • @trieck

    @trieck

    Жыл бұрын

    @@itsarni thanks man…he makes it feel so good. The sixteenths give it a really nice feel.

  • @jodyguilbeaux8225
    @jodyguilbeaux8225 Жыл бұрын

    i am 67 years old and there is always something else to learn, it never ends. even if i am playing guitar, steel guitar , bass, bongos, piano and of course drums. so it is a never ending journey. a good video, thanks.

  • @simonlamphee9905
    @simonlamphee9905 Жыл бұрын

    Il play how i want to play thanks

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Ok great! I went to your channel though and I don’t see any videos posted yet. Please let me know when you post something so I can see how it is that you do play. I would love to see what you’re up to. 🙌🏼

  • @simonlamphee9905

    @simonlamphee9905

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stantonmooremusic i play for myself not anyone else sorry

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@simonlamphee9905 that’s a great reason to play! Enjoy. 🙌🏼🥁👊🏼

  • @m.vonhollen6673

    @m.vonhollen6673

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stantonmooremusic Still very positive! They won’t be derailing you.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@m.vonhollen6673 🙏🏼😉👊🏼

  • @andrewdelrusso4951
    @andrewdelrusso4951 Жыл бұрын

    Haha, I just realized that I also do my push pull backwards.

  • @HadEnough745
    @HadEnough745 Жыл бұрын

    Demo starts at 2:30

  • @2ndAveScents
    @2ndAveScents4 ай бұрын

    What snare is that?

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    4 ай бұрын

    That’s my Spirit of New Orleans signature titanium snare. It is available at Memphis Drum Shop and Drum Center of Portsmouth! 🙌🏼🥁👊🏼

  • @2ndAveScents

    @2ndAveScents

    4 ай бұрын

    Awesome, love the sound and tune. Is that a magnetic damper in the top right corner of the rim?

  • @tdrum21
    @tdrum21 Жыл бұрын

    👌🏽

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼

  • @johngeorges1510
    @johngeorges15104 ай бұрын

    Yeah, great, and the left hand?

  • @permpress
    @permpress Жыл бұрын

    Great lesson, thanks! (but come on responders..let's get Jeff Porcaro's name right :-/ )

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat Жыл бұрын

    Playing that pattern at p.

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on the New Orleans tourism ad. You got paid to do that? Grin

  • @girthBrookssss
    @girthBrookssss Жыл бұрын

    so i wanna blame my electronic kit cymbals... could just be me tho... anybody else in my situation feel like u can't get the rebound u need to pull it off?

  • @theirverybest672
    @theirverybest672 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe don’t work on this technique while your spouse is watching tv with you. “Yeah, you right!”

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏼

  • @rosarionasca7487
    @rosarionasca7487Ай бұрын

    Non l,ho capita sinceramente,difficile da applicare

  • @jaygee8566
    @jaygee856611 ай бұрын

    Not good push-pull form. You need to keep your pinky on the stick and involve the thumb.

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat Жыл бұрын

    If you’re left handed that would be your left hand.

  • @stantonmooremusic

    @stantonmooremusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, correct. 🙌🏼

  • @stephfraser6481

    @stephfraser6481

    7 ай бұрын

    I’m left handed but play right handed 🙄

  • @TTFMjock
    @TTFMjock Жыл бұрын

    When I’m kissing my love, feel the love pumping in my veins…

  • @AustinMello
    @AustinMello Жыл бұрын

    "...the push-pull technique." *demonstrates drop-catch instead* Watch Gadson more closely. What he does is totally a mini-moeller, all wrist, no fingers. That's push-pull. This 'open-close' technique, or 'drop-catch' is a different technique. It's how one plays skip notes for jazz ride work. But that's not how Gadson played hats. But these are two separate techniques.

  • @AustinMello

    @AustinMello

    Жыл бұрын

    Additionally, the closing action is supposed to be the accent. Thus the application of open-close for jazz ride skip beats: the downbeat needs to be louder than the skip, so closing the hand for the accent is exactly right. This is why open-close is less natural for hi-hat parts originally played with actual 'push-pull', because you have to 'reverse' the action (the way you're doing organically) to imitate the actual mini-moeller "push-pull" Gadson sound. (For the record, you're a way better drummer than I, but this is a pet peeve of mine and a techniche I obsess over.)

  • @NaturalScienceRushTribute
    @NaturalScienceRushTribute7 ай бұрын

    Today’s Tom Sawyer…