Which one was your favourite?

@rnm723

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely the german grip push pull ! Thanks for your insights.

@TheStudioDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

@@rnm723 yep. Seems the most useful. Thanks Reuben!👊🏽

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

🤘

@K_VIENT

2 жыл бұрын

right hand : german grip push pull left hand : drop bounce

Thanks . And great you acknowledge Han . He just turned 82 years young . Still so creative. Btw there are clips of Han playing more conventional jazz on KZread. Swings like a 😈.

Glad to see Han Bennink get some love!

this is the best summary of all of the jojo mayer/ steve gadd/ buddy rich things ive seen over years. Thanks so much

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! My pleasure. 🙂

@RogierRJDonker

Жыл бұрын

I totally get Jojo and Buddy. But Gadd? Never seen Gadd do stuff like this. Gadd is amazing though.

I can't believe it's been four years since I first saw the first push pull video from Spyker. I'm grateful for gifts of flavor and techniques Reuben, thank you!

Reuben, you have done an excellent job of explaining these techniques.

Thanks mate, thorough and easy to grasp. Just what I was looking for to refresh my drumming!

Excellent video and explanation man. I have subbed can't wait to see what other content you have. 🤙

All I wanna say is Amazing !!! and thank you for sharing these !!!

thank you. I've learned something! appreciated

You have released the genie with the Ramon Montagner technique. Super lesson!! Nice George Way drums. Well demonstrated!

Great stuff!!

This is absolutely peak level quality instructional video, thanks a lot.

Nice technique man. Thanks 4 sharing. 🤘

He is one of my favorite Drummers, So dedicated & unique. Excellent taste in Drum Equipment, Gorgeous Drums !!!

Thanks, great explanation and technique

Dude are a really good drummer. Nice single strokes and thanks for the information.

Thank you for making this video! Awesome technique

Superbly clear explanations

Excellent information.Your a master of stick control.

Thank you for this video.

Reuben, Excellent instructional video. Time for me to get busy.

Thks you . I've learnt the push and pull technique

Best video I've seen on push/pull technique.

Reub! Your ability to teach these various strokes is just what we needed. You don't "over complicate" the lesson, yet you give exactly what we NEED to know! Many Thanks! ~s.

Really good explanation and tuition. Well done. Thanks from everyone.

You are the first person to give this in detail, incredible tutorial. The left hand is technique is going to improve my playing

haven't seen/heard anyone else on yotube go to the extent you have with all these push&pull technique. you've honestly helped me so much

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

Stoked to hear that! 🙂🙏 Cheers

@mellindrums

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lZyFyZeYit22ldY.html

@Tellgin148

Жыл бұрын

@@45echo awesome man! Have you heard of this guy? kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2qkqNWFctqtprQ.html

Thanks very much. Helped a lot.

Holy shit. This is the first truly comprehensive how to on this technique I’ve seen

Thank you this was great.

Han Bennink is absolutely one of my favourite players of all time. Thanks for the insight into his left hand technique.

One word : BRAVO.

You're really good at this sir.

Great lesson! Thank you!👍

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Thank you so much

Johnny Rabb is awesome at this.

Pretty awesome!! I can already do one handed press rolls. They come in handy...never.😊

Awesome, congrats👏👍

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks so much it helps alot❤️👍

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

great !!

Parabéns 👏👏👏👏 amigo mt boa sua informação na forma de boas técnicas 🤠 gostei muito abrs Luiz Carlos Brasil

definitely, Classic Push Pull (German) ¡¡ Thanks for your input. I love your sound. You have earned a fan, greetings from Buenos Aires City, Argentina.

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. 🙂🙏

Jojo Mayer is also a master at this. Excellent video.

awesome thanks brother ! i like them all haha !

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Great job Reuben! Your hands are excellent! I discovered flattening out the push/pull later in life. My form is pretty good from learning it for double strokes and ride cymbal technique, my speed , not so good. Plus, I don't play things that require it to be all that fast if that makes sense. Anyway, thanks again, I just subscribed.

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Keep up the drumming. 🙂

Wow Reuben, this is amazing. I'm turning sixty and refocusing my life to be a musician. Been doing these exercises several hours everyday for a month. So far I got the technique but I can't say I'm much faster using push pull however, I can hold my rolls and add accents significantly better and all around it has helped my playing significantly. Excited to see what these old bones can do. Thanks for the video.

@rudesssolo

5 ай бұрын

Hi Steve! Can you give us an update after 10 months?

@edwardkaminsky8142

5 ай бұрын

For me Steve arthritis is setting in the fingers at 62. What we did for 40 years has affected our technique now with concerns for the fingers. I ruined my hands sheetrocking, then AC technician for 12 years. I am so envious of these individuals with uncanny sticking abilities

@johnmarshall7096

4 ай бұрын

Age has nothing to do with us as a matter of fact if you were about to write estimate 16 years old you is the one in advantage being old for variety of reasons fortunately for us we grew upholding the standard grip and I played everything you could name except for one or two not gonna bother you with it now but if you want to study someone who is a genius Stewart Copeland from the police many videos and you're in for a shock everybody thinks he's a rock drummer he can do anything because he's old like me! I had a good of learning from Gym Chapin RIP his son Harry lived near me RIP Gym only taught talented students so he said well let me see what you can do so I sat at my side and I went around they set as fast as I could and the first thing he says wow man you "got great chops but you're working too hard "I had no idea what he meant he said let me show you. He said my drum set and taught me the Mouller technique which he was famous for. It helped me immediately! Then I don't want to go on and on and he invited me to sit in with his band in the Hamptons for the summer at some places that is probably gone to 100 years called the Yardbird or something. I was so flattered and unfortunately I had to support my family and I was starving artist so I said "Gym I am so honored but unfortunately I have to turn it down because I have to make a living" to be candid with you I didn't know why he was asking me because I didn't think I was a good knew I wasn't that good! But Jim was not looking at me for what I could play currently he saw what I was capable of playing later on! His prophecies came true as I progressed and Ruben Spyker is giving an excellent demo but the first thing he should've said is this is to flatter Buddy Rich RIP he is excellent but there are many ways to do this OK buddy rich dude with no effort he didn't have to go to the side he never twirled steak I never try to stick I can of course but I don't have to I can play but he's a hand with a variety of ways that differ from this. I hope before I drop dead to do various demonstration of how you can do everything with no effort the more calories you expend it works against you. I had the honor of meeting Buddy Rich's daughter; his manager Irving Kaye. who is in heaven and his grandson who couldn't stop playing the piano through the whole thing. This was a tribute I didn't know too buddy who died unfortunately recently and I attended to see Jack Jones who has the greatest voice of all time probably five octave but he never made it really like Frank Sinatra who was lucky if he could hit two. So I asked Irving why what is wrong with this guy he has the greatest voice in the world but nobody listens and when they do he puts people to sleep. I'm leaving out the quotes. He replied he can swing! In today's terminologies he can't rock! Music never changes you either can rock or swing or not you can't learn how to do it it's a feeling. I have a sore Jack Jones playing luck be a Lady tonight in the local clubs where we fell asleep. Then coincidentally I saw him seeing it in Carnegie Hall where he did it to the arrangement as a tribute to Frank Sinatra. Instead of putting you to sleep Nelson Riddle probably the greatest composer Director or whatever it's called of all time made Frank Sinatra into a star! Plus Sinatra had charisma and charm in and on and on. When Jack Jones saying it to Nelson Riddle it was the best tradition and history demand who put you to sleep got a 10 minute nonstop standing ovation! Now did he learn from that? Nope! Back to lullabies sad story. Anyway I'm sorry for this long post I hope our teacher here will look at it. But if you want to be in for a great shock study Stewart Copeland from the police he's all over the place what you can learn from him his incident he can do anything nobody Ridge does his opening statement he has a big ego which a lot of drummers of musicians have in some cases it's insulting in his case you just go OK yes sir! Can't argue with a talent! You're in for a shock when you study this guy famous for being a rock drummer. Surprise! Love ya never quit!

this is a great video im disappointed it hasnt been seen more

Awesome video Reuben!

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙂

Very nice sir

I annoy enough people drumming on tables as it is !! This is going to take it to a new level 😁

Always interesting how people take the techniques I want for blsstbeats, and use for other stuff

you are unreal ! and funny , wow I wish I had your talent

@mikejones3097

6 ай бұрын

Yes can we

Johnny Rabb was the first person I ever saw using that "gravity blast" about 25 years ago. He has a book about using it for jungle & break beats. He was a Roland and DW clinician, too.

Awesome....

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I own that same beautiful snare drum

Would love to see you do a lesson on the uptempo, two-handed jump blues shuffles (e.g. "Prima shuffle", 235bpm).

i've seen people do a swivel action in match grip. this looks wild and would like to find a video breaking this down

Killer

So you have to practice all these with a rebound pad to start with? Great vid. Very well explained. I picked up a few things I havnt heard of before.

Hi Reuben! Amazing vid! Very helpful! I've got a question: Ramon montagner is doing a lot of accenting in his push/pull. On the up strokes as well as on the downstrokes. Is there a way to adapt this to traditional? Maybe something like doing the soft notes with regular push pull and then "swivel" the accents?

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Yes you can totally do that. That’s actually exactly what I do in traditional for those kind of ideas. 🙂

Wasn’t expecting that voice 😇

For some reason, I can do the push pull technique a lot faster with my right hand (in German grip) than my left, even though I'm left-handed. I play matched and traditional (in the left hand - I play right-handed drum set), in fact I'd say my trad grip is better overall, but I can't do the first two trad grip techniques at all. I think not angling the snare the way you do is a hindrance as well. Drop bounce seems to be the most doable for me, because I use my thumb instead of index/middle fingers for finger bounce technique, but it's still very early days.

Fantastic display of skill and control Rueben! I am fairly new to drumming and taking in as much i can. I got alot out of the first and second techniques and will be trying them along with this video at hand! I have not tried the traditional handgrip but am inspired now to give it a go, after watching you. I always believed it may not sit well with me but now i have a new outlook on that. Also this may sound like a noob question... the position of your snare, is this how you would practice? or for ease of viewing for video for the camera? Please excuse my amateurness :P

Now that I think about it, I saw a vid of Carl Palmer doing just this in a snare demo.

Will technique 4 work on a high hat or only a snare with the Rim? Thanks great vid

This is amazing thanks Reuben - genuinely interested how this would go with heavier sticks (2b)..?

@RogierRJDonker

Жыл бұрын

Same idea. If you have large hands 2b should be the same thing. I can so rhe same stuff with 7a up to 2b. Also, it doesn't hurt to use multiple size sticks. It's like a toolbox. Small tools for finesse and big tools for more power.

Great video and explanation. Do u know a brook with exercises to put this techniques on practice?

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t use any books to develop this. You can use a lot of exercises that people use for developing finger control. Focusing on one hand for 4 bars then the other. You can increase or decrease the number of bars and then you can practice it with both hands as a single stroke roll.

Man you're great at this! I have a question. With german grip, are you using your fingers to push the stick on the upstroke, or do the fingers just move with the stick as you move your wrist back up? I've been doing this technique for some years, and with my right hand can sometimes get to 240-260bpm range, but you're taking it to the next level and I can't imagine how I could go any faster with the way I'm doing it right now, which is by pushing with the fingers on the upstroke. Cheers!

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

You can use your fingers to help push and to pull. The wrist and fingers work together to make the motion happen,. Thanks for the kind words!

Hi Rueben! How do you normally end the roll? The push or pull motion? Great video btw!! Thanks!

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

You can practice both ways. When you want to play different groupings or patterns, you will end up ending with both. 🙂

Ive been practicing this for a year and i can do it very well with both hands but only matched grip. The left hand really struggles with it in traditional grip.

Reuben I’m 90% sure you’re my dad

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

That other 10% was the right part though.

@ashtonvanderveur5971

2 жыл бұрын

Dang :( big fan tho, your playing is insane 🖖

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashtonvanderveur5971 Hahah cheers mate! Thank you. 🙂

@kpec3

Жыл бұрын

Seems unlikely to be your mom...

awesome! how many months/years took to get speed?

This is amazing. With the German grip push-pull, are you "pulling back" into any particular fingers over others, to get a smooth transition into the next push?

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

They all work together, index acts as more of a guide and the middle finger and thumb are the fulcrum. I’d say the most important part to pay attention to are the middle and thumb. You can do this technique with just those two.

@AidanMmusic96

2 жыл бұрын

@@45echo Thanks Reuben!

Kinda late to the party, but still: Does the thumb actually push the stick? I'm having a hard time figuring out how much of the drive it actually causes. BTW This is so inspiring. Thanks for this great video!

Good Lord man

мизинец обязательно должен участвовать в подхвате на 2:28? я восхищен твоим мастерством, я еще не видел кто бы так владел этим на таких больших скоростях

Seen your video where you did this with a pair of sunglasses. Everytime I would watch it I'd spend hours trying to get it and couldn't get it to flow....here we go again...

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

This is the updated version. 😉 Enjoy the practice, let me know if you have any questions.

Dude what was your practice routine to get this?

How long did you practice these techniques before you really got good at

what snare drum is that? G way Maple solid shell?

Plz also explain RICCARDO MERLINI method

That's Wrist control or? I know another Push Pull,which works,too,great.

German grip @ 5:00

I have to do this with my left hand like all day and then throw in paradiddle rudiments with my right hand

3:12 Can someone please write the name oft the Push-Pull-Master named here? Thank you :)

Great video. Thank you. Traditional grip is killing me. Infuriating.

4:24 Explains German grip, but the subsequent demonstration looks exactly like French? I'm really struggling to distinguish between these techniques.

how long have you been practicing for this kind of speed??

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been practicing push pull stuff for probably 7 years now. Each year I get a little more control and speed. 🙂

@Koropokel

2 жыл бұрын

@@45echo every day???

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Koropokel Just about, but there have been seasons with less practice and then some where I really focus in things to improve. I don’t have a perfect practice schedule by any stretch.

I need to see you do the first one with a hammer on nails

what happens if your thumbs don't look like that?

The drummer he said to check out is Ramon who?!? 🤷‍♂️

Every time I try to increase my speed my wrist and forearm lock up like crazy. I’m trying to realize where the tension is coming from but I have no idea. Any thoughts ?

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

I think you need to spend more time building our your speed up gradually. Developing speed takes time. Rather than trying to just go right for maximum speed, increase by just a few bpm at a time. Find your threshold, get comfortable at that tempo and then bump it up 3-5 bpm. Then the key is at at tempo pay attention to your motions. Make sure you have the full range and that you are using the right muscle groups to make it happen. I’ve spent years getting to where I am with my speed and control.

@brehbreh68plus18

2 жыл бұрын

@@45echo thanks man I appreciate it! I think if I’m seeing it correctly at higher speed you are mostly using the hand muscles.

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

@@brehbreh68plus18 All speeds it’s hand muscles. It’s a combination of wrist, fingers and rebound. 🙂

@brehbreh68plus18

2 жыл бұрын

@@45echo Dude thank you so much. It’s awesome how you take time out to explain it to just us commenters 😀

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

@@brehbreh68plus18 My pleasure! Cheers

I've been trying this for 20 years & Still can't get it.

@randydoak6638

5 ай бұрын

Me to brother, me too. I work on it every time I sit down to practice, but I seem to have hit my limit and it’s not useful in my playing. With chops stuff like this your mileage will vary.

@bigdoinks2006

4 ай бұрын

Is thete any alternative to this? I find it hard to play punk songs because my arms eventually get so tired from blast beats and other variations. I need a technique to get speed with 1 hand ​@randydoak6638

@vincentkingsdale8334

4 ай бұрын

Seems as the faster he goes, the smaller and more subtle the movements are (compared to the initial explanation)

@andrewjacobs5579

4 ай бұрын

Yup. That's why it seems I can't get it, when when I do it in the tempos I want to it just feels like the technique I've used for 25-ish years. And I'm thinking I can't get it because of my physical health issues capping my speed & stamina @@vincentkingsdale8334

@ziggy6698

4 ай бұрын

Its not one of those things that you can really start slow and speed up imo, your right hand is basically twitching and when you first "get it" it happens by accident. You have to stay extremely relaxed, its not a finger strength thing

Excellent summary. 👍 The swivel is my favorite because it looks so wack.😅 One to add to your list: there's also a push-pull technique developed by Gordy Knudtson for the American grip that incorporates some additional wrist movement as well, he calls it simply open-close technique. See kzread.info/dash/bejne/hJOtzJltgN3Rpbw.html and kzread.info/dash/bejne/eoeX1KeriL2eaLA.html In the latter video you see the difference of taking advantage of the wrist movement as well and not just relying on the fingers

@45echo

2 жыл бұрын

Hahah I know right? It looks crazy, but it works. 🙂 I’ll check him out.

What is this sorcery?

3:04 did you just play Bleed with one hand ???

I’m 100% sure I’ll *never* get this.

Machs mal mit links

Unfortunate that the camera is dropping frames / lagging somehow, making the action hard to see. Wish every drum teacher / channel had an awesome 60fps camera!