Drum Tech. - Pt 5 - Open/Close (Push Pull) Tips

Go to GK-Music.com for Zoom lessons and method books by Gordy Knudtson, drummer for The Steve Miller Band.

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  • @leeharries9341
    @leeharries93417 жыл бұрын

    Hi Gordy. I bet you've been asked loads of times for your help on these fantastic videos... I have 1 question though..... I'm slowly getting used to the action of the technique which is great, where do I need to concentrate? is it the finger action or try and get the "bounce" feeling in the wrist?

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Lee, actually for o/c I think it's more about learning the end points of both strokes, the open and the close - the little v and the big V. The stick hits the drum from natural hand movement during the transition from one end point to other. The hand has to learn where it's going, the end points, so practice VERY SLOWLY; pause after each hit; police the big V & little v with a mirror. If you are still having difficulties take a few Skype lessons with me. I can help you sort it out if I can see what you are doing.

  • @leeharries9341

    @leeharries9341

    7 жыл бұрын

    Gordy Knudtson. Thank you very much for your help. I might take you up on that offer soon! back to the practice pad I go.

  • @user-ux6pg3uf6c

    @user-ux6pg3uf6c

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂❤❤🎉🎉😮😮😊😊

  • @user-ux6pg3uf6c

    @user-ux6pg3uf6c

    Жыл бұрын

    Very clear and could improve

  • @user-ux6pg3uf6c

    @user-ux6pg3uf6c

    Жыл бұрын

    Cks Musters sticks

  • @EddyBombay
    @EddyBombay6 жыл бұрын

    4:34 this is exactly the mistake I've been making for two years and you're the only person I've seen point it out. This video has helped so much! Thank you.

  • @darnell828

    @darnell828

    4 жыл бұрын

    I watched the video and missed this important detail. I saw your comment and went back and checked it. YES! Thank You.

  • @edubatera72

    @edubatera72

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too...years ago...

  • @scottvelardo700

    @scottvelardo700

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s not necessarily a mistake. It’s just quieter. It’s a good idea to be able to do it both ways. To develop volume, you do need the high rebound, as Mr Knudtson says, and his coordination of wrist and fingers with the stick’s own bounce is a perfect example. To play softly, the lower “drop/catch” is the same feel but low.

  • @gravityblast3475
    @gravityblast34757 жыл бұрын

    Amazing attention to detail...I've never seen anyone break down mechanics this way.

  • @michaelgaines2069
    @michaelgaines2069 Жыл бұрын

    Man, Dr. G thank you for your expert well produced instructional videos. As a drummer I have performed with many top acts in the 70's. In 1969, I suffered a gun shot wound in my left forearm while serving in the Viet Nam conflict. All was ok until about 2000 when I started losing control of my stick in my left hand. Especially when using the conventional grip. Focusing only on match grip, after about seven years of very little control progress, I am experiencing greater control. I just found your videos about a week now. But man are they HELPFUL. The Relaxation, sliding the stick into that groove and placing the butt of the stick just above the hinge of the wrist are all Super Helpful. I was born to play drums so I have always had a solid Love and Appreciation for them and everyone who puts in the work of Allowing Themselves to Speak Through Their Musical Instruments. Thanks.

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Michael, you are welcome! Hey, I checked your channel out and saw the Dyke & The Blazers playlist! In the late 70's I worked with Eric Gravatt (Weather Report, McCoy Tyner) in a rock band. He played congas, I played drums. (He's as good on congas as he is on the kit!) Every once in a while when we would talk, he would mention Dyke & the Blazers. It was impossible to find their records in Minneapolis back then. I am going to check out your playlist! Be glad to do a ZOOM with you sometime if you have any questions about anything. You can email me at gordy@gk-music.com. All the Best! .

  • @juice8769
    @juice87696 ай бұрын

    Amazing break down of the technique! Clear, concise, all the mechanics explained and demonstrated. Your channel is a goldmine. Chapeau!

  • @swangonzalez4797
    @swangonzalez47972 жыл бұрын

    Been checking out all the vids on the open close/push pull technique and this one just nails it . Big V and little V. 4 inches off the pad. This is the best breakdown of this technique Ive come across. Been having problems until I saw this. I was doing the compressed version he demonstrated. It felt wrong, awkwardly stiff and slow. I haven't found anyone who explained this technique in such detail like Gordy. I think I have the basics of the movements down now. Thanks! Amazing teacher. Scary player.

  • @jpboucharddrums
    @jpboucharddrums6 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I needed. You're a great teacher. Thank you so much!

  • @Marshycrazyness686
    @Marshycrazyness6867 жыл бұрын

    A true Master and Educator of his craft. Thank you Gordy

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat3 жыл бұрын

    Great teaching. Technique is essentially learning how to make your hands stick bouncing machines. When you get those machines working for you playing effortless.

  • @Lu-ql
    @Lu-ql4 жыл бұрын

    You're a great teacher. Thank you for making this video.

  • @coffeejolts
    @coffeejolts6 жыл бұрын

    Your explanation of freestroke mechanics is excellent. Thank you for posting this!

  • @Coastfog
    @CoastfogАй бұрын

    Always coming back for this. What a wonderful technique.

  • @DYNABIKE1
    @DYNABIKE16 жыл бұрын

    You are such a Technical Professor for drumming - - It's THE BEST !!!!!! Thanks for all the Help.

  • @rickbourdier1408
    @rickbourdier14086 жыл бұрын

    I regret that adequate words fail me. Pity I can't give you a million likes for how awesome and the great extent and detail you go to for anyone and no one in your videos. You are a great man! Many, many thanks!

  • @andrewcutter1785
    @andrewcutter17852 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your great tuition! I’ve just cracked 60 and on my first basic drum kit, so any help is very much appreciated. Big V little V - love it. Legend.

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Andrew!

  • @mellindrums
    @mellindrums7 жыл бұрын

    the big V *clap* the little V *clap* the big V *clap* the little V *clap* 😂

  • @christianwagenseil9621

    @christianwagenseil9621

    4 жыл бұрын

    you can turn that into a hip hop song

  • @Papilin51383

    @Papilin51383

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @RobGaruccio

    @RobGaruccio

    3 жыл бұрын

    Remember to use about 3" with two little balls

  • @KIRI4DOTS

    @KIRI4DOTS

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.infoUgkxgAUngKJToHx6YhmoHYc0sn7M7Or494yi

  • @greghanberry6985

    @greghanberry6985

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao...I stopped at 3:46 to write this exact comment and yours was the first one I read. Great tutorial! The little vee...uh The big vee...yeah

  • @skywarrior3508
    @skywarrior35087 жыл бұрын

    The best Teacher.

  • @adnanrawashdeh3965
    @adnanrawashdeh39657 күн бұрын

    Oneof the best tutorials ever

  • @kongoff
    @kongoff6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent breakdown of key points of this technique. Thanks alot!

  • @RythmOse
    @RythmOse6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for those incredibles teaching videos. Understand the drums by a deep comprehension of our magnificent body machinery is the way i like :-)

  • @Ranger1216
    @Ranger12162 жыл бұрын

    You have taught this method throughout the world and drummers from all countries have learned it for their betterment. Thanks

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Vincent!

  • @scottvelardo700
    @scottvelardo7003 жыл бұрын

    The big Vee. (Tap) The little vee. (Tap) The big Vee. (Tap) The little Vee. (Tap) I could listen to him repeat that for hours. Excellent lesson. Being so clear with the height of the drum and the position of the forearms is SO important and so often not talked about! I’m constantly trying to get students to set up the drum higher because they are taught at school to put it lower, and they get used to the lazy position of lower hands. And then they wonder why they can’t play.

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @shemapicture2058
    @shemapicture20585 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome. The best teacher. Thanks

  • @NeddyRich
    @NeddyRich4 жыл бұрын

    Gordy - excellent technique and training. This will help me learn this rather quickly.

  • @NeddyRich
    @NeddyRich5 жыл бұрын

    Such a very helpful lesson. Greatly appreciated!

  • @danielmadariagavaldes893
    @danielmadariagavaldes8936 ай бұрын

    I never thought that I was going to pass over finger technique , and when I saw push pull technique few years ago I couldn’t understand it and gave up thinking that would be impossible for me, then I found your fantastic videos and I was able to understand the mechanics , and after a month of practice I’ve been developing lot of control , speed and being able apply it in all kind of grooves , fills and rudiments. I’m truly grateful

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    6 ай бұрын

    You are welcome! Glad they were helpful! I also do lessons if needed. You can email me if interested - gordy@gk-music.com. Thanks

  • @socialistmaybe
    @socialistmaybe6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you a lot for your video lessons!!! It helps me so much to understand hand technique more. U do so great job!!!

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @JC-xx5dm
    @JC-xx5dm4 жыл бұрын

    Speechless. Great teaching aids and explanations

  • @rmmccarthy1240
    @rmmccarthy12404 ай бұрын

    Very nice wrist articulation. Thanks for a great lesson.

  • @horvathbence4582
    @horvathbence45822 жыл бұрын

    Amazing teacher, very informative and educative video.

  • @dancu9271
    @dancu92714 ай бұрын

    A lot of thanks for making and sharing your video!!

  • @ricochetts
    @ricochetts4 жыл бұрын

    If i became a good drummer this because of Mr. Knudtson. I have learnt the core of drumming by you. Thank you very very very much.

  • @user-fl7px4hz9d
    @user-fl7px4hz9d6 жыл бұрын

    Wow... There a tonn vids about this technic, but ur explanation is just so easy to get and it's worked so well for me. Thanks a lot) especially for a wooden balls trick)) I'll try make same one by myself, looks easy)

  • @Flatnoy69
    @Flatnoy695 жыл бұрын

    You are the Mr. Rogers of drums. That is a major complement in my books. I really looked up to Rogers. Thanks for the great tips and making this technique understandable.

  • @FoolTheViking

    @FoolTheViking

    Жыл бұрын

    I was gonna say the Bob Ross if drums! Same thing. Respect

  • @freethinker7115
    @freethinker71155 жыл бұрын

    Waoh great video !! Thank you just what I was looking for .. Best video so far

  • @WambBoon
    @WambBoon Жыл бұрын

    Phenonmental sir, that could not be explained any simpler. 🙏

  • @pokerface1967
    @pokerface19672 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much for your time this was great

  • @LaurentOliveri
    @LaurentOliveri7 жыл бұрын

    incredibely usefull, thank you very very much.

  • @alessiogennaro8153
    @alessiogennaro81536 жыл бұрын

    Gorgeous!!

  • @freecitizen2760
    @freecitizen27604 жыл бұрын

    I taught (languages and music) for 40 years. You are a great teacher! Subscribed!

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Winston!

  • @fisicoamador1383
    @fisicoamador13835 жыл бұрын

    Gordy is the best teacher every in KZread!!!!

  • @muraskin
    @muraskin Жыл бұрын

    Hello Gordy! Thank you very much for such useful and great video. I have been practizing a lot and now, with your precious advices I can play 16th notes easier and more relaxed. However there is still space for improvement. I'll keep learning from your tutorial videos. Greetings from Munich, Germany. Raul, 10 years old.

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Raul, glad to be of help!

  • @etilcareh
    @etilcareh6 жыл бұрын

    Just perfect.

  • @Jesseondrumsmusic
    @Jesseondrumsmusic3 ай бұрын

    You my friend are an excellent teacher. "The big V" is what I was missing😂

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks, glad to be of help!

  • @Kipp_it_100
    @Kipp_it_1003 ай бұрын

    And subscribed! Excellent video. Never would of thought to physically isolate the wrist by placing the forearm on a surface. Just like preacher curls!

  • @wjb111
    @wjb1117 жыл бұрын

    New subscriber. Thank you Gordy!!

  • @mattryan6886
    @mattryan68863 жыл бұрын

    These videos have been fantastic teaching tool.After months I’m finally getting functional at doing this technique. Starting to build speed and control. I’ve recommended this to my other drummer friends so they too can have this in there bag of tricks

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Matt! You should check out my Open/Close books too at GK-Music.com. They have some additional info not in the videos. Between the books and the videos you will get the most complete picture of this technique. Glad you like this stuff!

  • @mattryan6886

    @mattryan6886

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gordy Knudtson I will most definitely look those up. This technique has been so useful for using with my ride and hihat, I’m able to play so relaxed now and for longer with more power

  • @anthemgunaether2914
    @anthemgunaether29145 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video !

  • @ricochetts
    @ricochetts5 жыл бұрын

    Just Perfectness from a great teacher.

  • @Nassoud60
    @Nassoud603 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work thank you 🙏

  • @stefanoresca5878
    @stefanoresca58784 жыл бұрын

    I love you'd drumming on the go jazz all stars

  • @BrammudaDepeSekali
    @BrammudaDepeSekali6 жыл бұрын

    very awesome lesson ! i wish i know your lesson years ago..

  • @Laudaweb63
    @Laudaweb634 жыл бұрын

    You are a genius ... Many greetings from Italy.

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Carlo!

  • @ernessst91
    @ernessst916 жыл бұрын

    Sir!!! Thank you!!!! 🤜🏾🤛🏾

  • @petermoore604
    @petermoore6046 жыл бұрын

    This is a really good break down of the technique Gordy. great vid.

  • @JesusLordOfLords455
    @JesusLordOfLords4554 жыл бұрын

    Thanks this tutorial is brilliant, nice work

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Lloyd!

  • @keitasuzuki7808
    @keitasuzuki78086 жыл бұрын

    This is really helpful Thank you🙏

  • @deborahcox1773
    @deborahcox17732 жыл бұрын

    I really like your videos, I finally got my drum throne setup.

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @leddrummer6893
    @leddrummer68936 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant.

  • @ronnolting1431
    @ronnolting14314 жыл бұрын

    Awesome technique

  • @dwayneaguiar1148
    @dwayneaguiar1148 Жыл бұрын

    Good Helpful video your never to good to learn more.🥁😎🥁

  • @zebrunoeisenberg8465
    @zebrunoeisenberg8465 Жыл бұрын

    Man I can't thank you enough for your "small v big V" explanation!! I'm spending years trying to figure out a good upstroke that flows right with down stroke so I can do it with less glitch. Seems like I tried everything in the map and finally Big V is my up stroke divine answer (at least it feels like it for the current moment}. I owe you a Big One!!! All the Best to you and your family!

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @ralfoster5753
    @ralfoster57536 жыл бұрын

    Top Explanation and good Bridge😊 👍👍👍

  • @jeffreyfranco6411
    @jeffreyfranco64116 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @hongfangzhang9162
    @hongfangzhang91625 жыл бұрын

    its fr*king awsome!!!!

  • @elehnez5732
    @elehnez57327 ай бұрын

    Best lesson since years. I found my second stroke not coming up just like you said. Therefore my wrist might feel a little stiff after a while. I guess it comes from playing in a loud hardrock band, while I always tryin to play into the drum and miss the upper motion from the wrist.

  • @andreasstochholm5688
    @andreasstochholm56887 жыл бұрын

    Wow 4:55 was exactly What i was looking for ... thank you

  • @bacobill

    @bacobill

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too.. so helpful thank you Gordy

  • @patbrady2095
    @patbrady2095 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic tips .I would have 20 lessons with him .

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat6 жыл бұрын

    Big V and little v ! Realizing these two positions may be a reason I've not mastered this technique. I think I was missing this! Thanks Much!

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    6 жыл бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @bryansmith4856
    @bryansmith48569 ай бұрын

    Very cool video, thank you sir.

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    9 ай бұрын

    You are very welcome

  • @JB-pg6ju
    @JB-pg6ju4 жыл бұрын

    Sir u r a freakin genius

  • @ddarkodev2923
    @ddarkodev29232 жыл бұрын

    Amazing 👏

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @ubirajarapinheiro8176
    @ubirajarapinheiro81765 жыл бұрын

    sensacional!!!

  • @user-bw3os9eo1d
    @user-bw3os9eo1d3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Gordy Knudtson Sir

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @WildSBlk
    @WildSBlk Жыл бұрын

    Very useful... Thank you..

  • @danielgc881
    @danielgc8817 жыл бұрын

    good Men !! bless you

  • @christophmeirich5928
    @christophmeirich59283 жыл бұрын

    Thx so much!!! Very helpfull !! Greetings from germany Christoph!!!!👍👍👍👍👍

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @jamesconnors5653
    @jamesconnors56536 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much.

  • @rudy73000
    @rudy730005 ай бұрын

    Such precision omg..

  • @jonasdeoliveira965
    @jonasdeoliveira9654 жыл бұрын

    the hero thanks

  • @alexmusic1391
    @alexmusic13912 жыл бұрын

    Thank you ❤

  • @MrLioncash
    @MrLioncash5 жыл бұрын

    Jojo Mayer talks about exactly this technique, being seated and snare drum position are just as important as good technique. The correct height saves you energy, time and pain.

  • @vexphoto
    @vexphoto5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @robryf9325
    @robryf9325Ай бұрын

    I guess this would be another technique to add to your arsenal i.e. matched grip, traditional grip, etc. but it doesn’t work for me in my normal grip because I tend to hold the sticks toward the balance point this only works if you grip the sticks at the very end. Otherwise the back of stick hits the wrist, stopping the movement.

  • @johnflock7233
    @johnflock72337 жыл бұрын

    Saw the Jones Beach show. It was a great thrill to see you play in person. You were great!!! As was the whole show. You need to teach Framtons drummer the open-close. He was working too hard.

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John, I appreciate it!

  • @motivationnation6969
    @motivationnation6969 Жыл бұрын

    Very thorough. Nice job. Giovanni, instructor Long Island Drum Center ( trained by Dom Famularo)

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @j.p.lindsay6768
    @j.p.lindsay67686 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Knudtson, FANTASTIC series on the O/C technique! Very enlightening, thank you! Could you post the brand of your thick, octagonal practice pad and where one might buy it? Thank you again, you're a great teacher and player! :)

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks J.P.! Unfortunately that thick octagonal pad was is no longer available. It was a custom model made for me by Real Feel before the company was sold many years ago. Now I use Prologix and Innovative Percussion pads.

  • @robvel4933
    @robvel49335 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @lek0ta
    @lek0ta7 жыл бұрын

    Excellent lesson! well explained and easy to understand!

  • @guilhermemarcos5411
    @guilhermemarcos54113 жыл бұрын

    Caraca! Ele explica muito bem.

  • @albertomarzucco4206
    @albertomarzucco42066 жыл бұрын

    Realmente excelente!

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    6 жыл бұрын

    Grazie!

  • @danikadarusman7771
    @danikadarusman7771 Жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @dr.rhythm1502
    @dr.rhythm15024 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @scottporter4871
    @scottporter48712 жыл бұрын

    Great video, very informative. I can't help but lift my hand above my wrist on both strokes 😐

  • @jasonmusic9938
    @jasonmusic9938 Жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @Carriesaglock
    @Carriesaglock3 жыл бұрын

    I never understood the point of the push/pull technique. You can do singles just as fast with your fingers (flying fingers technique)

  • @rcmasangcay
    @rcmasangcay5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @thiagomaranhao5442
    @thiagomaranhao54425 жыл бұрын

    Parabens

  • @edubatera72
    @edubatera724 жыл бұрын

    That’s how i do my doubles(papamama) 🙌🏻🙌🏻 learn that in the Army(snare drum corps) 👍🙏

  • @michaelmarotta5947
    @michaelmarotta59476 жыл бұрын

    Hi Gordy. I like your videos;your a great teacher. I have a question, do you have your own way of teaching traditional grip? Would love to have a lesson on that topic.

  • @GKMusic54

    @GKMusic54

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Michael. I don't really teach traditional grip because I don't use it myself. I had a wrist injury many years ago which made me a matched grip player.