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@jukeseyable

Ай бұрын

for me on raw tallent and skill, one of the all time greats, if at 12, up there with BOD for the best northern hemisphere center of his generation. sadly i have to cavieat this with its only on rugby skill and tallen, he and brian are poles apart as people, and that is why there is such divergence between their respective career paths

Gavin Henson had everything. Literally. He should have been the best 12, ever.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

18 сағат бұрын

Yeah I completely agree 🙌🏼

Brilliant video. Thank you. Henson was one of my favourite players when I was a young player and really into rugby. He usually looked a class above his team mates. He was definitely good for the sport, and as i have got older i appreciate sport for its moments. He certainly gave us some of those.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Thanks mate glad you enjoyed. Yeah, I agree with you. I was always gutted that he didn’t fulfil his potential for Wales but as I’ve got older and now looking back making this video I really do appreciate the moments he gave us

As an Irishman, i'm still relieved hd didn't step up to kick that final penalty from halfway for Wales. He would have snapped it through ghe uprights where Jones after 80 mins was always likely to come up short. 🙏🏻 Henson was a phenomenal kicker, made it look easy.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Yeah me too 😂 Yeah to be fair he was a brilliant kicker when he was on song. Absolute cannon in his boot

@hossywoof

24 күн бұрын

Absolutely this! I'm a Scot but loved watching Henson turn up....he was a class player. Seems a bit unfair folk bring up lack of brains and leg shaving. Great talent. Thanks op.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

23 күн бұрын

He was just an easy target by the end I think. Glad to hear fans form other countries liked him though 👌🏼👌🏼

Great Video. Gavin Henson was an amazing talent . I think if he Gavin would of had a mentor from the beginning, it would be a different story.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

29 күн бұрын

Thank you very much, much appreciated. Yeah wholeheartedly agree, I really think he just wanted a coach to constantly put their arm around him and reinforced to him how good he was. I think he had that under Lyn Jones and Ruddock and you can see what it did for him

I remember as a welshman we used to call gav 'the sun' because he was big, orange & didn't shine enough! He was undoubtedly one of the most talented players of his generation but as this video perfectly covers never fulfilled his potential. Whether that was because of his own self destructive episodes or that he never found that perfect coach that made him feel wanted which i think is what he really needed. Great video WSP, you have yourself a new subscriber sir.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Ha ha I like that comparison 👏🏼 Yeah I think the coach thing is interesting tbh. He fell out with most of them so who knows what could have happened if he found the right guy. Thanks for watching 👍🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@dannyboywhaa3146

Ай бұрын

@@TheWelshSportsPodcastI think he was too good, ahead of his time... he had everything!

@dannyboywhaa3146

Ай бұрын

@@TheWelshSportsPodcastno offence however, to have Jenkins (great place kicker) and Jones (good allrounder) ahead of Henson is a joke - neither has anywhere near, not in the same stratosphere, the same level of talent! What a monumentally stupid thing to have done... from an Englishman... he had a real rugby brain and played heads up rugby, one of the best all round players ever to grace the game, I’m deadly serious!

@montybrewster7

Ай бұрын

@@dannyboywhaa3146 I totally agree with you but as this video points out gav was his own worst enemy most of the time. But a genuine talant that should have been the heart of the welsh team for many years.

@dannyboywhaa3146

Ай бұрын

@@montybrewster7 well yes, mercurial talents often need a bit more guidance... so many examples etc... shame, but it think both sides are at fault to a degree! I just remember what a beast he was in the tackle as well! Perfect, dream No. 10!

Excellent video ..lots of clips ..Good one ... All the best Welsh in Costa Rica

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

27 күн бұрын

Thanks Jono 👍🏼 Hope you liked the change up in content 🤞🏼

Lots of details I never knew ...seems well researched ...Well presented ...

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

27 күн бұрын

Thanks Jonathan. Much appreciated 🙏🏼

He was absolutely world class.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

28 күн бұрын

On his day he certainly was my friend 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Great doco. Really impressed, I loved it.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

22 күн бұрын

Thank you mate. Very kind of you to say 👍🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Enjoyed this thank you.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

25 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching my friend 👍🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Thoroughly enjoyed this! Although we can all lament the waste of a huge talent I am grateful for his massive contribution to the 2005 slam and further international outings. His running looked effortless, and such vision and timing. If I saw him in public I would thank him for what he brought in 2005 and buy him a pint, though maybe that is not such a good idea!

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

21 күн бұрын

Cheers Mike much appreciated. Your point exactly he had hands in into six nations Grand Slams and for all his floors, he was certainly a quality player

Henson was one of the most naturally talented rugby players in world rugby at his best...he looked like he had do much time on the ball even st international level which is an indication of just how good he was.. sometimes personal lives clash with the very best players .. Eric cantona was a loose cannon genious on the pitch and it wasn't untill Ferguson man management skills brought the very best and consistency from Eric.. some players just need to be treated and managed differently especially when those players are naturally gifted.. I feel Henson was one of those players and I loved watching him play for Wales.. strong athletic in attack and could smash in defence with superb vision exceptional handling skills and a great boot... the total 15 man rugby wales played in hensons grand slam was brilliant to watch.. also that elbow in the face which knocked him out in the bar was a sly cheap shot .. also that elbow Henson threw against that Leicester player if you look closely the Leicester player was coming in to Henson with a swinging arm of his own which Henson saw and Henson beat him to it .. not condoning it but you have to look after yourself on the pitch and that Leicester player was definitely coming in to twat Henson but got floored instead

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Yes, you’re right about Alex Marino, he looked like he was coming to clear them out of the ball but I don’t think it was as dirty as what Henson did Overall agree with everything you said, he was always quality when he was on his game and he really did help make Wales a better team when he was involved. I really do wish we could’ve seen him play a 100 times for Wales but what we did get to see was great🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Love the content dude. I was in my teens when Henson started coming tho to prominence, His game against England where he was the best player on the pitch was amazing. It's unfortunate that he couldn't live up to his potential. Would have been one amazing player if he did. I'm happy I got to watch his talent play for Wales tho , his fame / infamy definitely help bring though a generation of talented youngsters.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Yeah we’re probably I similar age. On his day he was quality. He could just never hold it all together. But what a player to whiteness in full flow. Like you said he no doubt inspired a few young kids to take up rugby which is great

Loved watching Gavin play, what a talent, but it was clear he was carrying a fair amount of baggage somewhere which, ultimately, held him back from reaching his full potential. Great docu. Fairly done.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Thank you, much appreciated. Yeah, I think he simply wanted to be more than a rugby player (similar to LRZ now) but maybe just didn’t know exactly how to apply himself to get what he wanted

Christian boy! I absolutely LOVED this video. Hope to see more like it in the future! Henson had it all, man. Speed, power, size, awareness, skill. The one thing he lacked was probably the most important thing and that’s commitment to his job. But that was his prerogative. He wanted to be more than just a rugby player. He wanted to be a celebrity and just the way it is unfortunately. From things I’ve heard about people that know/have met him, he’s a very shy, humble and nice guy. Personally, I root for him. He basically single-handedly won us that England game which basically won us the 2005 grand slam and kick started a great period of Welsh rugby and I’ll always think of him in high regard. I would love to see a similar video about James Hook. Another player that didn’t live up to potential. But his problem wasn’t himself, it was that Gatland seemed to hate him.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

27 күн бұрын

Smabo! Thanks mate. Yeah hoping to do some similar stuff mixed in with the usual talking head stuff. Got a few idea, James Hook though is a good shout, thanks mate 👍🏼 Yeah that’s similar to what heard while making this. Reminded me of the current LRZ situation. Wants to be a celebrity more than a rugby player. Lots log parallels 😬 Unfortunately it seamed like he was often his own worst enemy. I just wish people around him could have kept him on the straight and narrow but ya know. 2 grand slams. Can’t turn your nose up at that 🏆🏆

@williamtraep2984

26 күн бұрын

Before 2005 I used to train down merthyr mawr sand dunes and see him down there regularly he was a little shy and quite. He was committed to his training but agree he wanted higher celebrity status. The same as LRZ another wasted talent that would also have been a Great

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

26 күн бұрын

Some good insight there mate thanks. He would have to be committed to be able to play at that high level. It’s just unfortunate that with more success came more things to take his attention. He’s only human after all I guess

Loves what he sees when looking into any reflective surface. Probably rates himself an 11/10.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

17 күн бұрын

Almost certainly 😂

The best explanation that I have heard for Henson’s behaviour - and it fits with how he is in interviews - is that he was basically very shy. That’s also what I have heard Charlotte Church say about him.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Thanks mate. I’ve been working on this vid a while so I really got to know the guy 😂 It’s a strange combo of wanting attention and being shy of it all at the same time 🤷🏻‍♂️

@afai264

29 күн бұрын

I can't remember where I read or saw it now but he was also described as a 'shy extrovert' maybe a contradiction in terms , but it sort of makes sense, wanting to look good for the fans , the hair and grooming etc which wasn't typical for rugby players- in front of 80,000 fans at the Millenium Stadium he was able to kick pressure penalties from the touchline with the crowd going mad. Maybe he was less comfortable one on one with people in a normal environment (unless he'd had a drink!)

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

29 күн бұрын

Yeah spot on. I think you’ve nailed it there and I think he got to comfortable once I had a drink and that was the issue 😂

@afai264

29 күн бұрын

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast I haven't watched the whole video yet so you might cover this but there was a story from Martyn Williams I think it was who said before an International the players were asking Gav why he was spending so long in the mirror on his hair, he said something like 'Your Mum and Dad have come to see you 80,000 have come to see me!' 😁

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

28 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 I hope that a true story because it’s a cracking line to be fair 😂👏🏼

Brilliant 33 minutes!!!

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

29 күн бұрын

Thank you, my friend, very kind of you to see. Thanks for watching. Much appreciated🙏🏼

For all round ability he's up there with the best. This vid made me wonder if Mike Ruddock had stayed on he might have had the consistency he did under Gatland. It's just too welsh to look for the negatives in his career, 2 Grand Slams, MAGNIFICO!

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Yeah that’s a great point actually. In his book he spoke about how much he got on with Ruddock so you could be on to something there. Who knows but what a player when he was on song 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

That was a good reflection on Gav's career, the last Irish game, he was "wolf whistled every time he touched the ball, he was very sombre on the plane coming home, I was sat next to him and Charlotte (across the aisle).

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

23 күн бұрын

Really that’s a interesting insight and I guess is a way you actually see more of a human side of someone not just a rugby player

Class film. From an Irish perspective he was an obvious world player talent, 'head & shoulders', so there is a question remaining which you cover well. Sheer talent gets you some way but certainly does not lead to success at all, you also need help, luck, security & even more effort/training. I'm one of those people who always rubbed my bosses up the wrong way, so I'm very sympathetic to GH. I think of Wales as home to flamboyant rugby talent & hope to see that return, may you produce another Henson.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

11 күн бұрын

Thank you my friend. Much appreciated 👍🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Yeah I really hope we get another player like him popping up soon 🙏🏼

I forgot how good Henson was. Good video. Something we do not hear too often these days in the men's game: 07:38

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

11 күн бұрын

Ha ha yeah fair shout 😂 Thanks for watching in commenting 👍🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Hi Christian, Gavin Henson a young player with too much on his plate and could not handle it, the pressure just got to him. but as a player he was good and that game, 2005 6N that kick in the Wales v England game as the late great Eddie Buttler said Shave away shave away Gavin. Gavin played some good games but the fame just got to him, all I can say what sort of player and person could he be, not the one we know. A talent lost , the only person he let down was him self and the thing is I liked him. Great video on Gavin Henson and I wish Gavin all the best. Catch you soon Take care

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Hi Shaun. Yes a fantastic player but to much to soon for him maybe. Still though he did have some amazing performances for Wales and like you said i wish him the best. Hope you’re keeping well pal 👍🏼

I think the significance of the 2009 injury just before Lions selection was downplayed/overlooked in this video and played a huge factor in his decision to take the sabbatical.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Fair comment. It’s not something that came up when researching the video tbh so that one is on me 🤷🏻‍♂️

Great show. What a shame about the ups and downs. Thank you 👍

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Cheers for watch Aid 👍🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Charlotte church was fuckin nuts ....Should have avoided her 😮

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Awesome video. It was exciting when henson played. I remember that kick against england and that year was amazing. Its a shame his off the field antics and lack of discipline at times got in the way.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

27 күн бұрын

Thank you mate. Much appreciated 👍🏼 Yeah it’s so gutting. If only the guy had the disabling of someone like Halfpenny and he would have 100 caps

What i wouldnt give for a Henson now! Was absolute class on his day, made everything look effortless! Unfortunately for the neutral he was easy to dislike!

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Yeah I think he brought most of it on himself unfortunately but when he was just playing rugby and nothing else he was up there with the best 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

That Tait tackle! 🔥 where do you want the shop dummy? Unfortunately for Henson like so many of our sports stars the press whip up the frenzy surrounding them n they become too big for their (golden....sorry) boots! Alas Henson fell into this pot n we never got to see his true potential! Could have become so much more than he did! If you saw his name on the teamsheet you knew we had a chance!

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

26 күн бұрын

Yeah very true mate. He also played into it aswel. Don’t think he could help himself in some ways 🤷🏻‍♂️

@ptrichie71

26 күн бұрын

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast young lad with all the press hyping him up I think it'd be difficult for anyone not to.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

25 күн бұрын

Yeah exactly. It all came at him in one go too so it must have been a mental time for him

Crazy as it sounds I think his issues were summed up perfectly when he was on that Come Dancing show. His professional partner was struggling to get him to concentrate and put the hard practice in because he kept going to the mirror and admiring his six pack 🤣

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

26 күн бұрын

That’s such a funny story, but I can certainly imagine that. I mean those abs aren’t going to check out themselves are they?😂😂

The guy was badly managed from start to finish, moved from pillar to post thats why he got fed up and lost momentum, exactly the same thing happened to James hook 🤷🏼‍♂️

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

25 күн бұрын

Yeah good point. Someone else mentioned James hook too funny enough. Defo see the parallels

@jamesbooth3840

18 күн бұрын

Me and my mate said it years ago, we wanted to see Hook at 10 and Henson at 12

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

16 күн бұрын

Hook really got messed around didn’t he. Never played him in a consistent spot. He was a brilliant 10

Advance payments for book deals can be pretty high ... so Gav probably saw the numbers and thought "why not!" But as you said, he clearly didn't consider the heat it would bring.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

24 күн бұрын

Yeah and probably got egged on my his manager and others trying to make a quick buck 💷

The Welsh Cipriani

I really enjoyed this video and would like to see more documentary style content pls. The red card against Llanelli is on KZread, the video is titled ‘Gavin Henson being a naughty boy’, incidentally 👍

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Thanks mate. Yeah was fun researching it all just took a while to get together. Yeah I found it thanks. That hair is just crazy 😂

@balljacksok

Ай бұрын

⁠@@TheWelshSportsPodcast aye, outrageous do. The lad would’ve never managed to whip Charlotte Church in If he’d have kept that Barnet 🤔🤪

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

29 күн бұрын

😂 no way mate. Maybe he should have kept it and stayed away from the girls 😂

Rumour has it, that he would only play when he felt close to 100%, and that built up resentment amongst his teammates, as he could not be relied upon.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

13 күн бұрын

Yeah that’s could be right. I also got the feeling that he felt that he was better than other players and was not shy in sharing that opinion 😂

@garylake1676

13 күн бұрын

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast You would be better than most of you only play when you are close to 100%, all the other players carry knocks and niggles through the season, so they are rarely close to 100% I think he was a wasted talent, he could, along with BOD formed a Lions centre pairing that would be talked about forever It’s one thing knowing you are better than your team mates, but it’s crass when you let them know it The one thing that binds rugby players together is humility and playing for each other, you are only as good as your team mates allow you to be, even if you are the star, they have to want to play for you

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

13 күн бұрын

Yeah totally agree Gary. Like you said as players (even if it’s at the amateur standard) you’re very rarely 100% once it gets a few games into a season and to your point that’s when you see the guys with true grit It’s such a shame he didn’t really for fill his potential and it was mostly down to his attitude but when he was on song, what a player (probably a Welsh bias view)😂

Might have only been for a short time but no doubt Henson was world class 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

28 күн бұрын

Yeah to right mate 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Saw him play for the Dragons against the Blues in 2017 I think it was, easily the best Dragons player at the match.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Still had his skills at that point, he’d just lost some of the athleticism. I really wish it had worked out the time he came to Cardiff tbh 😬

@chesterdonnelly1212

Ай бұрын

When playing club rugby he always looked a level above his team mates.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

As long as his head was on it he always looked a cut above the rest didn’t he

I think he needed guidance in his private life and attitude to fulfil his potential. If he received this, he should have listened. It’s a shame, as his potential was massive, when he played well he was just untouchable 🙏

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Yeah agreed. I think people might have treated him as a golden goose trying to hang on to his coat tails and lead him astray 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Jako-fh8zg

Ай бұрын

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast true, I actually didn’t think of that side to be fair. I bet he was tempted left right and centre, the hangers on and the fame seekers - it’s an easy trap to fall in as a young man 👍 great episode, some of those tackles are still audible today 🤣👍👍👍

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

😂 yeah to right. Both of the Tate ones are just silly aren’t they 😂

Henson should have been one of the greats. Brilliant player that sadly didnt fully fulfil his potential. People saying he was overrated dont have a clue. This is from an Englishman too

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

28 күн бұрын

Yeah great point. I don’t get the people who say that. Yeah he was up and down but the ups were right up there

Sort of unrelated but I was doing security at ITV on the Southbank in London, back in 2008 or so. Gavin and Charlotte came into reception carrying their kid. It was crowded and they were getting stared at a bit so they sort of drifted over to where I was standing beside the turnstiles. I could hear them chatting quietly, fussing over their kid, which must have been their daughter Ruby. It was a nice few minutes because I felt like they didn't want to be disturbed and standing beside me gave them a bit of space. I was tempted to chirp about him smashing Tait but I kept my peace and stood quietly by. A little while later I was trotting across our underground carpark and they were there loading their stuff into their car. Charlotte gave me the loveliest smile as I went past, just kind of acknowledging me as the guy from upstairs I guess, but it made my day. Also, for Welsh fans, Gareth Thomas popped into ITV a fair bit back then. He was in one day with his mate, who looked like a front rower, and the two of them had bags or backpacks they needed to stow. The girls at reception weren't allowed to store stuff but we had a broom closet behind the turnstiles and I told Gareth I could put their bags in there. Predictably enough they were both great guys, friendly and down to earth. And lastly, talking sport, Freddie Flintoff came in one day, also around 2008, with this beautiful but rather sullen and headstrong looking woman who must have been his wife. I don't know if he was having a bad day but he walked around reception like an absolute dickhead, sneering down at everyone there. It wasn't like he was being bothered, the people in there were just minding their own business, but he left the room in no doubt he didn't think much of any of us.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

21 күн бұрын

Ah thank you mate. Really nice insight and it’s actually good to know that these guys are actually humble and friendly away from the limelight. I always felt that him and Charlotte probably copped more unnecessary rubbish than they deserved. Hopefully they both found some happiness and calm now there careers are sort of over. Interesting about Freddie. Maybe he was just a bit more of a big wig than a humble working class rugby players🤷🏻‍♂️ thanks again for sharing mate. Cool stories👍🏼

@Slumpdunnet

21 күн бұрын

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast Cheers mate, yeah, by all accounts Freddie isn't a bad bloke but he certainly didn't come across well that day.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

19 күн бұрын

Maybe he was just having a rough day. I guess you can’t be on and happy all the time. Thanks for the cool insight though.👍🏼

Great vid. He had a drink problem. His problem wasn’t drinking too much it was that he couldn’t take his drink

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Yeah totally agreed. It he always seamed to get himself into trouble as soon as drink was involved. There was even incidents that didn’t make it into the video too 😂

Cracking punch by Fearns

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Short and sharp was all it needed 😂

RE the Bath incident with Carl Fearns - i might be misquoting but I remember David Flatman talking on his podcast about it (he'd recently retired and i think was still working at the club in some form) and apparently after the fight the management gathered all the players and said "if you lot want him out then he's gone" and the squad unanimously said they loved him and wanted him to stay. I think they'd heard about Gav turning into a monster when drunk and plied him with booze to see what would happen and we all saw the result... It does all point to an interesting character, not black and white and certainly not all bad. Just a complicated guy in an era before rugby clubs knew how to handle complicated or difficult people (other than knocking them out or sacking them anyway)

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

26 күн бұрын

Yeah, agreed with your summation. As you said is the somewhat paradoxical character who wanted attention but also was very shy. Good to hear that the bath guy is actually wanted to keep him around though and in fairness while I researching this, I didn’t find any of his teammates that really slated him at all🤷🏻‍♂️

I'd tolerate all of the dramas, sabbaticals and antics for 33 games of Gavin Henson in a red shirt, than 103 of that troglodyte Stephen Jones, Nick Tompkins, Jamie can't pass off his left Roberts, Leigh the golden retriever Halfpenny et al. "People from Llanelli are weird" as a quote is up there for truth and wisdom with some of Shakespeare's best.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂 creased reading this 👏🏼 “That troglodyte Stephen Jones” really tickled me 😂

@cro649

Ай бұрын

@TheWelshSportsPodcast Don't get me wrong I'm full of admiration for Jones. That he can pass and remember to breathe at the same time is to his credit. Also, people from Llanelli aren't just weird. They are mutants so who said Gav doesn't have a diplomatic side?! Anyway, enjoyed this.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

😂 he certainly mastered that skill 😂 Thank you appreciate it 👍🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

A proper tidy player!

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

11 күн бұрын

Quality on his day 👌🏼

Great video - with the incident on the plane, Gavin got drunk and was throwing ice cubes around the cabin (allegedly).

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

13 күн бұрын

Right didn’t realise it was ice cubes. Thanks for clearing that up (good knowledge) Appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching 👍🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

I agree with his comment about Odriscel being dirty and banter on the pitch ! It always seem to be overlooked as it is with Farrel ! Given their talent should not be the deciding factor in action taken against foul play ! No doubt in my mind!

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

26 күн бұрын

Yea that’s a fair point. The problem was there was no clear evidence so it was a big bomb to drop without being able to prove it you know. The book was a huge mistake either way I think 😂

Thanks for putting this together. Undoubtedly a rare but misguided talent. But aren't so may of our sporting heroes treading the thin line between fame and notiriety? And isn't that part of what makes them exceptional and memorable? But alas, sport is a short lived profession and takes few prisoners. The descent is invariably more rapid than the ascent and leaves an individual out in the wilderness. Imagine the impact he could have had as a backs coach for Wales or the Lions. It would have been priceless and influenced a whole new generation of ball carriers.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

26 күн бұрын

Thank you mate 👍🏼 Yeah what a talent. As you said I think quite often the most talented of players sometimes can struggle to keep there head on the straight and narrow. He always benefited from a coach that built him up and it’s a shame Ruddock went when he did. Who knows what could have happened 🤷🏻‍♂️

talanted player , but didn't have the application, common sense or the will power, i hope he fulfills his life

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

28 күн бұрын

Yeah I second that👍🏼

Gr8 doc. You dont need to say quote - end quote. We arent american, we can infer the end of the quote from context.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

28 күн бұрын

Some people listen on audio only and I think it just adds clarity. Plus I listen to a lot of Dan Carlin😂

Prince

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

14 күн бұрын

Agreed mate 👌🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Needed a Gats to keep him developing. Reminds me of Liam Williams in that way. Gigantic potential, unharnessed. Ignore all the media stuff, that's just the pointless attention that comes with being popular. Andy Powell drove down a motorway in a golf cart and it barely broke the news.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

27 күн бұрын

Yeah I think they did their best to keep that one on the down low 🏌️ Yeah take the media stuff away and you can’t doubt his talent. He was just a bit of a rouge character 😂

@drgjenkins4361

26 күн бұрын

@TheWelshSportsPodcast Yep. He got up to all the same crazy stuff most rugby players do, but, much like the English rugby team, he was under a more intense spot light. Just such a shame someone couldn't really get him progressing over, say, 10 years. As per Gats did for North, Jon Davis, Liam et al. Felt the same about Zammit...... hah

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

25 күн бұрын

Yeah this is true. I think he got injured a lot which is easy to forget with all the other shenanigans but that certainly coast him a few big tournaments over the years

Wales could do with a character like Gavin nowadays

Seemed to bugger things up off field and was often out with injury’s.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

28 күн бұрын

Yeah was very unlucky with injuries and he couldn’t seam to get out of his own way

Destroyed by media coverage as he was a Wales talisman that could lift any side. Much like they're doing with Reece Zamit. He's been removed from Welsh rugby that's all that matters but the media, will still keep picking on him..

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

28 күн бұрын

I do a agree to an extent but the same as LRZ I think they wanted to be more that just rugby players and with that comes it’s own issues

I was at that derby match. It was hilarious. Dean Thomas got a second yellow but the ref had forgotten. He was reminded by the crowd…

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

😂

The old sun lamp melted his brain did not need the suntan Though he was god turned out to be dog Lack of humility is a hard master

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

He looked good though 😂

What with the mix of him and Charlotte, they are obviously an interesting combination between them. Such a pity with so much talent and too much press adulation in their early development. Genius is very difficult to manage at any age. 2 such young talents together would have been impossible to develop to its best degree. Such a pity. I would dare to suggest that he could possibly do with some social care from a close friend who can genuinely show him the love that he needs, just like anyone. Obviously not an easy character to love, but he obviously needs some mature care. A poor lost soul who has so much internal conflict inside.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Yeah I think that’s a real interesting point. He speaks fondly of his parents and says how supportive they were ect so it’s kind of surprising he kept making strange life choices. I guess he did it his own way and that’s fair enough 🤷🏻‍♂️

Lions tour didn't mix with the rest of the squad before and during the tour. Honestly thought he was a certainty for the tests, At know time was he a test player, Believed in his own publicity.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

26 күн бұрын

He certainly should’ve been the test 12 for that first game. I think Woodward deserves all the criticism he gets for that shambles.

Anybody thinking this sounds a little like what Zammit is doing now? World cup and Lions Tour now gone to the NFL and keeps talking badly about rugby etc. Several high profile girlfriends. Minus the book basically.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

100% mate. I’ve been comparing LRZ to Henson for a while. Clearly a person who wants to be more than just a rugby player he actually wants to be a celebrity. Each to their own I guess but it’s certainly a caution retail

Could have been one of the Welsh greats, but pissed it up the wall. What a waste of money, though, Iestyn Harris ! Shane Williams wasn’t picked for Lions in the first test against NZ, and he wasn’t picked for the mid-week team either. He was totally ignored by Woodward.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Yeah, Harris ended up being another drop of the ball by the WRU in hindsight and Williams was one of many Welsh players that I think got overlooked in that whole tour. I agree with Hensons comments and criticisms of Woodward to be honest😂

To be honest he earnt his crust at Bristol!! PS must of broke my skull as a young un! cant grow hair on my head🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

I think he had sorted himself out by that point. Shame it took him so long 😂

Carl Fearns went further up in my estimation

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

he just had abs. That was it. Rugby players always get into fights and get spanked. Its quite funny. Im a rugby fan but they lose in the ring vs league players also lol. Too much drinking not enough peds

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Yeah league players are a different gravy 😂 He was more than just abs though to be fair. He had some real quality

best player of his generation - and badly managed. What happened to him was what Barry John ran away from

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

22 күн бұрын

He was definitely up there, no doubt

clive Woodward was a fucking disaster as a lions coach. He would have picked a aqaud of emglish players if he could.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

26 күн бұрын

Yeah, and he’s a clown of a bloke. The worst rugby pundit on TV, it’s amazing how he managed to win a World Cup to be honest

@ads2686

10 күн бұрын

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast he won it in the most boring way possible. Johnny Wilkinson and drop goals.

Oedd Hendo y "roller coaster" just like Rygbi Cymreig! Mwynheais i'n edrych yn ol i 'r gyfa Henson. Diolch yn fawr

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

Ай бұрын

Ye 100% 🎢😂 Dim problem, Diolch am gwilio

Wonderful player but Graham Henry undermined him at a crucial stage in his career

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

24 күн бұрын

Yeah agreed. I feel if he had a better attitude though he might have stuck it out and won a spot much earlier than he did

@gordonjohnsonhoughton4133

23 күн бұрын

@@TheWelshSportsPodcast he was very immature & needed guidance which he didn’t get from Henry. I feel he would have done much better had Gatland been on the scene at that time. What’s done is gone so no point regretting it, just remember some of his absolute class with ball in hand & kicking.

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

23 күн бұрын

Yeah agreed about Gatland. Or even if Ruddock stayed longer he might have kept him in check but who knows. What a player on his day though

If he was English these videos just wouldn't exist, we like to romanticise Henson to much here. He was mid

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

16 күн бұрын

Due to their bigger player base you’re probably right. He would just get lost amount the weeds but I can’t agree that his skill sets are mid 😬

@callumraza5046

13 күн бұрын

A video like this on Mathew Tait would be interesting, especially as he was part of that underdog 2007 England team.

He was shite! utter overrated!

@TheWelshSportsPodcast

23 күн бұрын

Fair 😂