Prey but it's an actual boss fight! (Sprite Animation)
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This is a little project I've been wanting to do for a long time. I didn't really like the ending of Prey, so I'm making my own!
In this alternate timeline, Sonic manages to get all the time stones and the good ending!
This is an animation and I had a lot of fun making it.
Starved is next!
- Big Arms Remix From -
• Big Arms REMIX || Soni...
#prey
#fnf
#fnfmod
#starved
#sonicthehedgehog
#sonicthehedgehogcd
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27/09 Edit / Quick Update: 50k?! Guys! What the heck. Thank you!!!111!111!1111!!!1 I don't intend to leave you all in suspense since I know how it feels like to wait without knowing anything! So, I'm going to tell you about the projects I'm working on! The main animation everyone is waiting for, Vs. Starved! I would like to start making it, but I want to try a few things first. Don't worry, the whole fight is already planned and the ending is already written and so are the Sprites! I just need to glue everything together! The second animation I want to make - and I'm going to use it to practice a bit - is something that brings together two universes, in terms of the story let's say that A Time Stone falls into a dark world and into the wrong hands! - - - 25/09 Wow! 10k Views! I did not count on this! I am very grateful, I honestly didn't expect to get this far! Since so many people are interested in this story, I would like to ask something that some of you have already noticed - the time stone! Would you like to see its function expanded a bit, or would you prefer it to work like in the game! (It does nothing but give you the good ending!) Don't worry, either option will give Sonic his good ending!
@maxeplier
Жыл бұрын
Add part 2 with starved
@maxeplier
Жыл бұрын
Also you need more subscribers! This is underrated gold.
@IcyCaeli
Жыл бұрын
Honestly wouldnt mind seeing its function expanded
@calmmoon266
Жыл бұрын
Good ending makes sense why this takes in the good future
@busterwolf8901
Жыл бұрын
the function expanded because it brings alot more opportunities to mess around with
Really like this. I can actually see this being an actual boss fight where you can use the time stone to show you an "after" image of where to go to not get hit at the expense of cooldown.
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Yup! That was the idea I had in mind.
@omegaflowey9932
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky what about a starved eggman boss fight. Do that please.
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Oh! Don't you worry! Starved fight is on the works!
@omegaflowey9932
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky ok
@itzroseuwu
Жыл бұрын
If i remember correctly, someone is making it an actual playable boss fight
Sometimes I like to imagine what a fan game based on the starved story would be like...then I see this and say: yes
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
A dangerous story for our little blue hero!
@JPComenta
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky yes, with a fate that is not expected XD
@elliotsturtplus340
Жыл бұрын
Dude that’s what I’m still waiting for starved is my favourite sonic creepy pasta the story is so well done
@randomdude....
Жыл бұрын
@@JPComenta and I expect in the fan game that there you can make a good future in the stages and if you make a good future in star dust speed way you get a different ending where sonic survives and in the ending of the game if you collect all the time stones sonic goes back in time and goes right after sonic 1 finished and investigate how did egg man turn into starved and stop egg man from changing his diet for that he doesn't turn into starved and this will the good ending the neutral ending will be just the normal story where sonic dies and tails confront's starved and retreats and the bad will be that sonic dies and tails dies too and there's no one who can stop starved now
@JPComenta
Жыл бұрын
@@randomdude.... I wouldn't want them to do that. More I would like it to give that feeling that you can beat starved, and that in the end, no matter how much effort you give it, that in the end sonic dies... Which, is what prey transmits to me, and already the part of tails... well, it doesn't matter to me, although I think it would be more like the neutral ending, where tails survives... A, and that he has good bosses, not bosses that just shoot and let himself be attacked like in fan games from sonic.exe
I liked the boss fight a lot, but I really liked about this was how Starved was lurking in the background. Watching and studying Sonics movements like a predator gaining info on its Prey. You don’t even see his face and I still felt how ominous it was for him to just be lurking. Makes him feel a lot more threatening as an antagonist.
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Maybe!
@lil_rascal5235
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky A maybe is better than nothing!
@toolazytorenamemyself
Жыл бұрын
Add to the factor dr.robotnik is already a genius that would have likely tried to predict sonics moves to begin with. Starved being a more unruly version I feel like starved could even have something planned ahead of time knowing sonic has the stone.
@lil_rascal5235
Жыл бұрын
@@toolazytorenamemyself Oh yeah! I noticed those after images of Sonic that showed the incorrect spots to dodge Furnace. He might actually have something planned for the blue blur but we really don’t know.
@mrfunny1917
Жыл бұрын
@@toolazytorenamemyself na he's worse off. If cannon eggman can't kill sonic with the death egg and master emerald and his superior robot Metal sonic( or my favorite name for this robot, hyper Metal sonic) Eggman in sonic cd was truly trying to kill him, look at metallic madness bad future
Love the use of a Big Arms remix. Especially since it's referenced in Furnace's part of the song a lot.
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
I thought so! It makes a lot of sense now that you say it!
@dylanzlol7293
Жыл бұрын
Big Arms was referenced a lot during the song to represent "danger", the danger was obvious during furnaces part, thus, he references it the most. After furnace leaves, you dont hear big arms until after you see furnace passing by, showing that sonic is running straight to a trap, thus, big arms plays on the instrumental, but the vocals dont sing the big arms motif, representing in musical terms that sonic is unaware of the danger he got in.
I love how sometimes the time Stone starts acting up and shows what i think is a timeline where you died, if this was a actual boss fight, i think this should show up every time you die, the time stone would warn you How you died, so you can know how to live
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Yuppers!
@AdrianoGames
Жыл бұрын
*_S t o n e_* ...i think you mean esmeralds right?
@ArkChannel351
Жыл бұрын
@@AdrianoGames thats not even close
@SillyWilly_89
Жыл бұрын
@@AdrianoGames wait wut do u mean?
@Marvin_Aethos
Жыл бұрын
@@AdrianoGames ah yes the time sonic, I loved when starved used the time sonics to bring back the cooked mobians and eat them all over again
I love how the final cutscene and fight was portrayed in the animation! Really good stuff! Mostly throughout the fight, Sonic is playing defensively, we see this when the time stone explicitly shows that attacking furnace isn't a good strategy. However in the parts leading up to the last cutscene, Sonic is able to deduce that Furnace is vulnerable. His attacks are working, he needs to finish him off, or at least decommission him, which is why he speeds up. At the apex of the fight, it feels like a Do or Die moment, one wrong move and bam, bad future. The time stone confirms this, showing the multitude of deaths that ensued if Sonic's movement wasn't immaculate. But the blue blur pushes through, the Fiery Furnace meets a terrible fate akin to Sonic's original ending in the Starved story, terrific animation!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Yup! One little error and Sonic was gone. Back to square one!
@themixer8549
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky Is there a limit to how many times the time stone can be used? Or is it like an infinite source like the chaos emeralds?
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Seeing that Starved managed to use the Time Stones to go back in time and eat again and again, I would say that... There is no limit, however. There is a window of opportunity where Sonic can be taken by surprise, if someone were to attack. It is impossible to see what the future holds in that time!
for some reason the small "woowoowoowoo" as a small Starved slowly flies by in the distance is hilarious
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
He won't give up the chase!
As much as I do love the original Starved Story, it's super satisfying seeing Furance be destroyed and Sonic living for once
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Me too! There aren't that many fnf mods where Sonic and his crew made it out alive!
cool fight : yes intresting mechanics : yes attention to detail : yes result : good job this is perfect
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Perfect?! Woah! Thank you very much!
i love how furnace got pretty much no u'd at the end, considering in the original bad ending prey sonic dies of recklessness and not looking foward, in this one furnace gets defeated getting smashed against a block instead because he didnt look foward.
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Yup! Karma sure does wonders!
I was NOT expecting that wall running sequence, it’s incredibly cool and Idk why Sega didn’t actually add this in CD. Goodjob! :)
@saykocaty1421
Жыл бұрын
@KrispyCooky22 yeah but not during a cool chase like metal sonic’s, and he only runs for a little on it anyways
@Pedogaming233
Жыл бұрын
@KrispyCooky22 that thing in palm tree panic is more like a transition than apart of the stage and just like how guy over me mentioned it's not a cool chase scene
@Agueybana1978
Жыл бұрын
It would have been a cool Metal Sonic fight
@Tozito911
2 ай бұрын
different times, different aproaches.
Finally a good ending I don’t know if that version of sonic was made before Fnf but Fnf fandom likes watching characters suffer for some damn reason and it’s nice to see sonic winning for once and not just being killed in a rap contest
@RekonBR519
6 ай бұрын
no you mean the EXE fandom likes to see characters suffer
Now THIS is what would have happened if Robotnik didn't have a contingency plan
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Maybe!
@tommasocesarato3831
Жыл бұрын
This is most likely what would have happened _period_. Sonic probably got nerfed to the ground in starved lore, he would have most likely avoided furnace or survived somehow cuz u know Plot armor
@thecjgameworld4013
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky I'm guessing he does since he was watching the whole thing
@bigthelad5668
Жыл бұрын
@@tommasocesarato3831 yes he did, a single spindash from sonic would slice furnace in half, also i find it strange why tails uses a knife when he can literally destroys rocks and metal robots by just spindashing
@RatedClipz_
Жыл бұрын
@@tommasocesarato3831 but it didn’t cause the plot was automatically against him since it needed to kill off sonic so tails could take over as the protagonist
That wall running sequence was not at all expected,but that just made this whole thing a million times better, great work :D
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
Why does it looks 90% legit? this is skill right here, great job
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
This animation is hello good, this really gives you the feeling that your prey running from the predator finally tricking him into hitting something, along with the time emerald mechanic really original. Keep up the good work👍
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! The downfall of Furnace was giving Sonic the opportunity to strike back!
this is criminally underrated
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Ow, don't say that! I think I'm pretty fine where I am!
"I was starting to think Eggman had finally started using his brain for something better, but another scrap head? Jeez, guess he really is an egghead.. no matter, time to turn you into more scrap metal!" Either way, you did a very good job, it's a very cool animation and it really encapsulates the CD style on it's own way, i would dare say this looks official, a 10 out of 10
I noticed a detail every now and then where there are phantoms of Sonic dying, showing the fact that this fight has happened before because of Starved's use of the time stones. Very neat
I’d like to see this turned into an actual game!
I like the added detail of the timer being stuck at 9:59. Anyone who saw Prey knows that Sonic's already out of time as soon as the fight begins.
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Yup! However, that was a lazy fix from my part. For the next animation is going to be fixed!
@emberthefox4951
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky if this gets a part 2 with Starved, I'd recommend intentionally having the 9:59 timer to continue the symbolism.
@emberthefox4951
Жыл бұрын
@The Nelson Show Where did I mention Tails?
Although obviously I’m more in favor of Metal Sonic or Mecha Sonic, I can’t deny that Furnace Sonic has an awesome design. Honestly he would be right at home in Sonic and the Black Knight.
@Garbo_trashcan
Жыл бұрын
Furnace is awesome, although I don't like the fact that he is apparently as fast regular Metal Sonic. No way in hell does he weigh as little as Metal Sonic does.
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
While I love Furnace's design, it's awesome, just like you said. Metal will always be my beloved doppelganger!
@maxwell4508
Жыл бұрын
@@Garbo_trashcan I imagine he's just a bit slower, not able to surpass max speed sonic, but capable of sneaking ahead should sonic slow down.
I’ve made an account so I can finally say. That I like the detail that Starve was watching the fight at 0:59. If you between the gaps when Sonic jumps.
"Man, you really like scrambling your own plans dontcha- hey! Watch where your going you rustbucket! You might hurt someone. Hehe hehe."
I am amazed on how much nostalgia this gives me growing up playing Sonic. (Every time I tried Stardust speedway, I failed until I got it right.) Great job!
Dude thats actually awsome, the animation looks like it could be a real game but enough cutscene moves as well
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was trying to make it look real! Seems like I succeed!
@carlosmunoz6952
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky yea for sure keep it up 👍
Prey: bad future background Dai: N O
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Denied!
@primeben1066
Жыл бұрын
*Everything turned back to normal bc of the background and furnace was metal sonic again*
The true pain thing to edit animation is the timer,when u save everything but forgot to make the timer move:
OMFG THIS IS THE BEST THING I'VE SEEN IN MY WHOLE LIFE
Sonic running on the Horizontal wall really reminds me of Sonic 4, and even though that game is widely disliked, I still love the animations and like the story, so the fact that it's used here really makes me happy 😁
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
If my memory doesn't fail me, Sonic 4 Ep 2 wasn't really that bad!
@jgoofy8233
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky honestly one of my favorite (and first) Sonic games I've played. Tails being more involved, as well as the overall story was actually really good!
@the_coconut_is_home
Жыл бұрын
Sonic colors ds before I beat the nega wisp
@OhJr
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky Facts.
@OhJr
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky Sonic 4 may be disliked alot, but it isn't bad on a unplayable level, I actually quite like it!
this needs to be turned into a game
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Oh! I can see myself totally not getting past the dash attack!
OH, I didn't get it at at first, but that time stone mechanic is so cool. SONIC WILL SURVIVE!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Of course!
This animation is badass keep up the great work
Dude I didnt read the entire title and I assumed it was a fangame. Excellent work bro
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Yup! It's all animated!
@defaultuser632
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky you got talent for this man keep it up ;) (btw sorry for the late response youtube didnt notified me)
Plot twist: Sonic is actually just outrunning the timer.
You must be putting a lot of effort in this animation, this should be canon ending
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Uh? No-no-no! It's just a fan thingy I wanted to do! I couldn't bare to see Sonic end up like that, so I made this fan animation of what would happen! Still, thank you very much for wanting this to be canon! I appreciate it!
@metalsonicgameshowcase7242
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky Because the original defies the logic a lot
@zero_2277
Жыл бұрын
i think this now should be the canon ending cuz Dumbie ( the actual starved creator ) is going to make some changes in the history, so i can bet that sonic will be alive
I feel like when The time stone shows different images of how sonic will get hurt or die if he does exactly that He'll see it or something then not do that *Also I know starved is just watching the whole time but it must feel mad comfortable sitting in that eggmobile*
You, are criminally underrated. This is amazing, keep it up!! I would LOVE to see more of this.
Nice animation bro, keep the good work
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I plan to do that!
@Dirt21
Жыл бұрын
Ambush, whats your opinion on female doors characters, i believe that theyre cringe
@notfollowingthedareanymore
Жыл бұрын
Everywhere I go, I see you....even on door 5
@lukepineda42
Жыл бұрын
*hides in closet*
@DAFUNNYGUY412
Жыл бұрын
@@Dirt21 just to answer with ambush, BRUH IT SUCKS
An idea to make this boss less boring is that Sonic could attack Furnace in the first phase, and once he hits him enough time, it goes into the second phase. Maybe the attacks could be more telegraphed (maybe Furnace is preparing himself to speeds through a part of the wall? I dunno) and instead of doing that beam at the end of the video (which I don't understand how Sonic dodged it) he could start charging up to do said beam, only to crash against the wall before he could do it. At the end of the level, Sonic could pass through the goal post, with the level clear theme playing (with Starved still ominously flying in the background) This is just a suggestion though, the animation is wonderfully done!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the suggestion! I need to improve my writing skills!
@eggbind2989
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky I'm glad to hear that!
@TheKakTheMonour
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky and then... They never came back...
@theyeabgang250
Жыл бұрын
@@TheKakTheMonour The end.
Bro worked at sega actually this is incredibile!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
You think so? Thank you very much! Although I don't know anything about programming.
it's a really nice job, i feel like if this was a real game getting Game over in this part would keep the regular Starved storyline, but if you play really good you can survive and change Sonic's fate
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Yup! As you can see, only 1 Sonic is able to run past the last laser! So the chances are really slim!
this is really impressive! a lot of sprite animations on youtube tend to look clunky or lose the genesis game feel but not this one! i also like the after-images showing different things that would've happened to sonic if he didn't play his cards right, really good stuff
That was epic, the animation was really well made
The time stone effect is really awesome. Great idea! Act 1 complete! :)
The music, the sprites, the 8 bit atmosphere, IT'S ALL TOO GOOD.
Really well-made, good job!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
This dude just showed up outta nowhere and made an awesome sprite animation!! I look forward to your next animation already!
This is sprite Animated!? It’s almost like actual gameplay! And that’s how good it is!!!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Yuppers! I would love for it to be a game! Thank you!
@felipecfyt2518
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky More like fangame I suppose
Starved: What the fuck are you doing Furnace?! Furnace: SHUT THE FUCK UP DOCTOR, I’M SHOOTING LASERS OUT OF MY UPPER BODY!!! (Anyways that was a pretty good animation! It looked like it was actual gameplay!)
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
The Original Ideas department was out of budget. I had to make some cuts! Thank you! I tried my best to make it as "real" as possible!
@HoodiewearingOpp
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky Not a prob!
now all we need to do is make this playable while being in FNF
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
That would be interesting!
@daphnev5580
Жыл бұрын
@buzzlightyearpfp7641 DONT YOU DARE ASK THAT because... when it first came with sans and anime it ruined my whole life including sonic.exe don't make the owner of the people who made the OG prey :/
This ITS for a perfect rom hack
Man......the resolution of the screen makes this be.....real! I really liked it
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for noticing!
you did amazing on this bro, keep up the good work you earned a sub
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Oh no! I ran out of "Thanks You". Oh, that's a lie! Thank you so much!
Oh my god... This animation is so amazing!! Keep it up, bro!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!!!!1!!!1111111!
I can just imagine this in a actual sonic game made by Sega and the sonic.exe team
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine? However, each exe would need a game of their own, wouldn't they? or would it be a compilation?!
Never played a classic sonic game so I have no clue how the timer works, but the fact that it was infinitely stuck on 9'59" with the last two digits going up and down is SO mildly infuriating
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Well, honestly it's a lazy fix from my side. But some are saying that it symbolizes the time loop that Sonic is stuck in!
@vCherrykAI16
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky That's fair, I can respect that, still frustrates me to look at tho LMAO /lh
This popped up on my feed, I like it a lot! Cool fight
Awesome job, I can't wait to see more!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
More things are on the way, thanks for watching!
I like how you show whenever is not safe to attack with those ghost sonics
This is amazing! love the detail of ghost mode
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
One must learn from the past mistakes, right? Thanks for watching!
This was very nice to watch awesome job with the animation ✨
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Woah! Many thanks, Sensation!
@Sensation_Studios
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky anytime pal✨
Bruh this makes me think on a fight or flight but its an actual sonic boss fight and your animation is good as hell bro,keep going ma boi
I liked it so much, i wish it had a fangame of that bossfight
How a fight between sonic and furnace would actually go. Not to mention, sonic may be cocky but he dont goof off during a fight like in prey.
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
That's how I see it!
@chriss.249
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky Exactly Nerfed that boy to hell just to try and make a creepy story😂 Im honestly confused on why theres more horror related friday night funkin Sonic stuff than REGULAR fnf Sonic stuff. 😂
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
I don't have anything against creepy-related things. I'm just upset about how Prey ended, Sonic's fate was a bit unfair. So here we are. I did my version of how I thought things would turn out! I am surprised that so many people liked it! I just can't say thank you enough!
WAIT, IS THIS AN ANIMATION? I thought it was a hack or mod, hecj even a fangame, BUT AN ANIMATION? That looks really cool!!!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Yup! Sadly, I lack the knowledge to make it into a game!
Dude this is incredible Keep up the gud work
This is brilliant absolutely spectacular well done
This is so cool!
0:56 yo that is dope
This looks like more of a first encounter with furnace than prey itself but honestly it fits especially if this is a version of a bad future
10/10 Nice Animation!
I want a Sonic CD fan game based off the creepypasta. The gameplay would still be similar to the original game, except the bosses are hard and threatening
Wow this cool great job on that animation
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
This was a great animation!
This looks like an official sonic game
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad I was able to achieve that effect!
I LOVED THIS ANIMATION AND THE ANIMANTION
This is very well made I love it
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DatDude2246
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky thank you for this wonderful animation
Dang that was so well made I loved it new sub
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate knowing that you enjoyed it!
@rodrigoboss
Жыл бұрын
No problem
I haven't seen any of your other animations(if you made any other of course) but I can bet:Awesome as always!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!! I do have in fact some other projects, mainly practice! I don't think they will ever see the light of day though!
Im gonna give u sub because i have a strong feeling u will be a great KZreadr in the future... Like come on your work is a pure art
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
I feel like there would be multiple endings for the fights one where sonic loses and dies like in canon and the good ending where he survives and goes back into the past to fix everything
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Woah! Good idea!
@subx353
Жыл бұрын
@@DaiToky Awww thanks!
That Was Sick!
This was a awesome animation. It felt like I was playing it
Incredible, just an amazing work, I'd love to play something like this.
absolutely briliant, I always wanted to see furnace in a boss fight.
This is amazing!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
1:42 as a good at predicting i have that skill at almost max lol to see what happends if i do different actions
That ending give me goosebumps
Best looking Metal Sonic fight I've seen in a long time!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Really?! Thank you very much in that case!
i want a fangame like this
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Sorry! Maybe someday, someone will make a game of Starved!
Thats so cool!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
And so are you! Thanks!
Holy shit that time stone mechanic is REALLY cool!
AWESOME ANIMATION IM EXCITED TO SEE PART 2!
@DaiToky
Жыл бұрын
Working on it!
Man this is amazing you deserve alot more subs it makes sense that furnace went down in a few hits following the fact he's only really made to attack in battle and to cook Mobians he didn't have great durability. Also the time stone mechanic was pretty interesting does it have infinite use?. My favourite thing about this was starved lurking in the background watching the battle. Overall this was amazing and I can't wait for Vs starved(if your doing one)🔥
I’ll stay tuned for next time
Woah this is cool it looks so smooth with the sprites of furnace and sonic and I like when sonic runs on the walls
Good job its really good!👍
@DaiToky
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Thanks! I really appreciate it!
Imagine there was a starved game like this. That would be canon.