Agree with you generally but things like heat treatment and HRC also have a big bearing. I have just ordered today a Maserin nimrod after watching many reviews including yours. The knives available here in Turkey is more limited and importing can be a problem. Supersteel Steve does a lot of testing of blades and when he did a review "International M390" on 4 different manufacturers got surprisingly different results. The Nimrod exceeded the others by a long way retaining a fine edge (hair shaving) cutting 140 feet of cardboard and a working edge (cutting paper) 375 feet of cardboard just using 1" of the blade. This result was similar to that of Spyderco S110V which gave results of 144 & 358 feet.

@jackmclane1826

2 жыл бұрын

That is very plausible. Such specialized steels need VERY elaborate heat treatment cycles that decide on how good it will perform. The exact alloy of those super steels is not as important as properly heat treating it.

@Fablades

2 жыл бұрын

Yea hey treatment and geometry as well are key

Nice video and like the Paysan as i've been looking for one for quite some time now. Knifecenter just opened up the pre-orders but they're delayed and don't have an eta on when they're going to become available. Please let me know if you have one for sale, I'd love to buy it LOL. Thanks and God Bless.

@Fablades

3 жыл бұрын

thank you! Sorry mine is sold, but it shouldn't be hard to find. Please send me an email, so I can contact you if I find one. Cheers

I must live in a different dimension than everyone else. I periodically sharpen all steels, including s110v, and I dont find any steel hard to sharpen. I must say that I dont cut paper or apples only.

Finally a knife video with decent audio!

@Fablades

4 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks man, appreciate it!

@Notmanypeople

2 жыл бұрын

Joe, I must say you shouldn't criticize someone using his time to teach you. Don't be such a disgusting ignorant

i still think s30v is the best balanced pocket knife steel. but it seems the industry has moved on.

Thanks. I guess you know M390, 20CV and 204P are the essentially the same composition from different manufacturers. Depending on blade geometry and heat treatment they have excellent stainless properties similar to S110V, only beaten by LC200N and a few others. None of them more corrosion resistant steels come close to the steels you discussed in edge retention. The downside for M390/20CV for hard use is a relatively low toughness (chip and fracture resistance) . S110 has only half the toughness of M390, but 20% better edge retention then the excellent edge retention (especially for stainless) of M390/20CV.

@Fablades

2 жыл бұрын

Yessir! You are correct thanks for sharing 🙏

@einundsiebenziger5488

Жыл бұрын

... better edge retention than* ...

You missed M390 in the video description

20cv for me it’s amazing and holds an edge forever

What knife is that last one in m390? It looks awesome.

@Fablades

3 жыл бұрын

it's a Cultrothech Svarn III, a russian custom

@marcelvdfvandamme5927

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fablades oh wauw. Very nice. Thanks.

thanks .. i need to watch this twice.. I have adhd

The manufacturers charts state that S110V has better edge retention, however now tested by many knife companies and custom makers, turns out that S90V edges out 110. KnifeMaker

Bro. I like ur vids but can you PLEASE give the names of the items you’re telling us about.

@Fablades

4 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the feedback, you are right! This was just a quick overview of the steels. Check the full reviews for more details 😉

@austinzinke1353

2 жыл бұрын

Bro he literally says every name and manufacturer

What is the difference between K390 and M390 steels? Same steel composition but different companies??

@Fablades

Жыл бұрын

K390 has very high hardenability (typically Rc63-64) and edge retention in abrasive environments. M390 is generally not used as hardened as 10V/K390 typically Rc61-62 edge retention is good, but not in the same level as K390.

@MoswenMedia

Жыл бұрын

M390 is a all arounder, good edge retention, good corrosion resistance. While K390 is a tool steel more focused on edge retention and has a crazy amount of vanadium. Barely any chromium so it will rust with neglect. It has a good amount of Carbon, Vanadium, Tungsten, Cobalt, and Molybdenum, all of which are very important to form hard carbides to keep the edge sharp. It makes me think of CPM 10V.

Aren't 20CV and M390 basically the same steel with different names made by different companies?

@Fablades

3 жыл бұрын

Almost identical, the only difference between the two steels should be the silicon content (CPM-20CV: 0.03%; M-390: 0.07%), and that they are produced by different makers. Also the heat treat and/or blade geometry will make the difference

@michaell397

2 ай бұрын

@@Fablades One company is Austrian (M390), Two are U.S. CPM-20cv (Crucible), and 205 cv, (Carpenters, U.S.) . KnifeMaker

M390 and 20CV are essentially the same in all aspects just manufactured by different companies. 20CV is just U.S. made M390.

@Fablades

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Thanks!!

@loveall3890

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I’m new to knife making. I’m in the uk and purchased some CPM 20cv from a renowned English knife making supplier, and I thought therefore it would be European. Is m390 European? I am going to make hunting knives out of it, and I would love to know more about its properties.

@josephledesma2637

2 жыл бұрын

@@loveall3890 CPM 20CV is made by crucible hence the CPM (crucible particle metallurgy). M390 is made by bohler.

@Fablades

2 жыл бұрын

Yes Bohler from Austria, CPM from US

I bought a bugout in 20cv and I absolutely love it. IMHO, 20CV is the perfect steel for every day carry: Life happens. Drops happen. Hitting things you can’t see, ect. S110v I feel sacrifices way too much just for the sake of edge retention. Once you’ve learned freehand sharpening, it doesn’t become a drawback anymore. Carry on y’all! 👋🏼✌🏼🇺🇸

@Fablades

3 жыл бұрын

Yea very tough, but a bit harder to sharpen

@DonnieRayyy

3 жыл бұрын

I am debating on getting the 20CV or the S90V on my mini Barrage.

@bigbullet9224

3 жыл бұрын

@@DonnieRayyy I’d go s20v actually am

@dannyboyspace

3 жыл бұрын

@@DonnieRayyy me too (on mini crooked river). did you decide 20cv or s90v?

@HellGatefr2

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewkuhl79 Hi, how did you like your Magnacut blade ? what use ?

Elmax Rules!

Cruwear is the best

Long story short all the steels you mentioned have some of the best corrosion resistance around. The 110SV may be preferred if you want the best edge retention. Agree its a challenge to sharpen. M390 is arguably one of the best all round steels for EDC. Suggest looking elsewhere if toughness, hard use,, or $ are important.

Dude they're all in brand new condition, not a single scratch or scuff. Go cut some stuff and then report back on the steels instead of just reading the facts online.

@Fablades

2 жыл бұрын

This is just an overview of the steel properties, and those are knives from a collection, so not users. A steel comparison test video would be awesome, I thought about that, but it takes a lot of time and money to pull it off. Thanks for the feedback 🙏

@pugchronicals1374

Жыл бұрын

@@Fablades That was very informative. There are so many blades steels that are the same, but have different names. Thx for removing some of the confusion..

@Fablades

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the content!!

@williambathwise9997

Жыл бұрын

Way to turn a pretty rude comment into a positive and informative response !

@Fablades

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, appreciate the support 👊