Y is definitely better then X. I mean X is super cool and all but Y is just so much more useful in the day to day.

@jimbeaux89

2 ай бұрын

Meh, Y is alright. Blade retention is rather poor. I find myself drawn to X for its versatility.

The best knife steel is the one you don't own yet.

@MichaelBertolino

4 ай бұрын

No. No it's not. Magnacut 🐐🐐🐐

@StoneHands25

4 ай бұрын

​@@MichaelBertolinoyou're right it's definitely not magnacut

@fredp1983

4 ай бұрын

I know right... but it should be the one you own

@MichaelBertolino

4 ай бұрын

@@StoneHands25 It is... Magnacut is da GOAT

@rustyknifelover4463

4 ай бұрын

LOL absolutely.

"Trash can steel is the best" - Huusk 😂

Magnacut appeared, everyone wanted knives made of this steel. Sales of knives made of other steels have plummeted. Now all the sellers have run to tell me that others steels good too. Of course, you need to sell stocks of this stuff from warehouses.

@Trolldaddy5

3 ай бұрын

Sales of other knives haven't plummeted. The vast majority of people buying knives are not buying magnacut. Most people dont know or care about steel, and most people are cheap and not willing to spend for even s30v, let alone magnacut.

@Phaminator525

Ай бұрын

@@Trolldaddy5yeah those are the people who use their knives and are not knife nuts. But the knife nuts are the people who these company’s target because there are weirdos who will buy 10+ CRKs. A knife that’s supposed to be a buy once cry once type of knife is being over bought and out of stock by knife nuts. And once they’ve sold these gullible office dwellers on magnacut they buy em up like candy. Literally printing money. While magnacut is an objectively amazing steel knife nuts buy it for the novelty. They don’t actually use their knives. They play with them.

K390 M4 Cruwear Magnacut These have been doing what I need for a while now honestly

@Commonsensepreps

13 күн бұрын

In that order as well

"7cr13 is the best steel" - Gerber

@nickedcr2320

4 ай бұрын

😂

@azraelsblade

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@jlogue751

4 ай бұрын

Crkt begs to differ..

@Hungrybird474

4 ай бұрын

Hehe

@ChairmanKimchi

4 ай бұрын

Bitch please, generic nameless “high carbon stainless steel” is the best.

1. heat treat 2. heat treat 3. geometry 4.type of steel the most important factors

The VG10 steel in my Delica 4 has always worked for me

@PoetFisherman

4 ай бұрын

It helps that Spyderco tends to have very good heat treatment protocols for a mass production company.

@trackpackgt877

4 ай бұрын

same here bro!!!!

@joek9962

4 ай бұрын

I shunned VG10 at first, but I now greatly appreciate a Spydie FRN model in this steel.

@user-ln3ch7hy1x

Ай бұрын

@@PoetFisherman What doesn't help is Spyderco making very ugly knives

@PoetFisherman

Ай бұрын

@@user-ln3ch7hy1x I suppose this is a good illustration of subjective beauty

After owning/ EDCing/ sharpening a truckload of knives of varying steels/ quality/ and manufacturers for the last 22 years, I’ve gone full circle and went back to humble roots and became pretty darn content. Amongst the plethora of knives I currently own, I keep coming back to these lowly three: Ontario RAT 2 in AUS-8, Cold Steel Mini-Recon Clip Point in AUS-10, and a Spyderco Persistence lightweight in 8cr13Mov. If you’ve used knives this long, you’ll realize that blade steel is not as important as people hype it up to be. There are many factors that makes a knife great and these factors vary in importance to different people. Super steels are a want, and it is OK to want them. But you don’t need them. I’m not telling you to NOT get super steels. What I’m telling you is to NOT judge how good a knife is by what steel it is made of.

@albsureinc23

4 ай бұрын

Most people would be surprised how well budget steels will work on both folding and fixed blades

@andrewfournier8817

4 ай бұрын

I tend to carry Opinels and SAKs, but I do like 14c28n if it's done nicely. Magnacut seems OK, tbh

@megacab

4 ай бұрын

I feel the same way. Steel isn't the main thing I look at when getting a knife. However, I carry a large inkosi and beat the hell out of it. Great knife for me.

@macdaddysmurf05

4 ай бұрын

that's a lot of words just to say you're poor

@P1015532oni

4 ай бұрын

@@macdaddysmurf05 OK man… must be nice to have tons of money, like you. Wait, just let me get down on all fours so I could kiss your boots for a bit.

This video is well done - I appreciate you not overly "taking a side" when there is so much performance nuance to edge retention/wear resistance, carbon & carbide size, corrosion resistance, toughness - and less understood attributes such as edge stability, microstructure, impact/shock resistance, heat treatment, geometry, sharpening method micro-physics, and hardening potential. Well done - cheers.

S30V and S35VN are great all around blades. I love 20CV as well. There are a lot of good knife steels these days!

Just got my first Magnacut Kershaw Livewire. Impressed so far

@PoetFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Nice. It's a great knife. I picked up a double edged model and the spine edge was a bit rough so I sharpened both edges to two different grits. It's been cool to have a super refined edge and a more toothy one on the same blade. Fun stuff.

@SlothhhKinggg

3 ай бұрын

Gotta love Kershaw. It's been my favorite brand by far for years now.

@TerminalM193

3 ай бұрын

I got the tanto magnacut livewire. I love the knife but it sadly was poorly sharpened at the factory. Spent a good 45 minutes getting it nice and sharp and it's been an absolute champ ever since. Been about 4 months now and other than a few strop sessions it's still mad sharp.

@PoetFisherman

3 ай бұрын

@TerminalM193 I of course am not a fan of poorly sharpened blades from the factory but I suppose the silver lining would be at least now you have the worst of the burned edge off. I like this knife so much I've been seriously considering getting that tanto. It's a very slick looking blade.

Early on in my knife game I chased the 'super steels'. Then I got a good sharpening rig and a good strop. Sure, I still go after the new hotness from time to time. Heat treatment concern was my next evolution. I've found far too many manufacturers under cook their higher end steels and man has that saved me a truckload of money. Design and use case aside, I'll take a Civivi in 14C28N or Nitro-V over We's 20CV.

@MB-jg4tr

4 ай бұрын

14C28N is one of the best knife steels IMO

Nice video. You definitely kicked it up a notch. Great production quality. I like the background especially in the opening seconds

@josephmcbrien7646

8 күн бұрын

Time stamp plz?

Keep these videos coming guys!

S35vn is well rounded

@danjones7

4 ай бұрын

I’ve always felt like a well treated s35vn could go up against magnacut honestly

@PoetFisherman

4 ай бұрын

When done right, it's in the top of my list of favorites. The Spydercos with the blue FRN scales; man the S35VN is so good on those.

@MB-jg4tr

4 ай бұрын

S35VN on my Cold Steel Recon1 is extremely well treated

Well said. I agree with everything. I took the path of buying many knives over many years and have developed my preferences. An attribute never mentioned I value has been referred to as front end sharpness after I describe it. Working edge retention isn’t something I care about on my EDC. But how much front end sharpness, how long it lasts and how easy it is to maintain along with lateral edge durability are primary factors in my EDC steel preference.

great video guys, thank u

Sometimes I look at my old PM2 and think S30V is outdated and lame. Then I remember it’s a far superior steel to basically any blade made in all history until the last 40 years. 😅

@NitrogenEyes

4 ай бұрын

I feel the same about my S30V Para3. I keep wishing it was Magnacut or something newer and fancier but remember for years this thing has taken a beating and keeps ending up in my pocket over newer knives I’ve gotten. That being said, I will 100% be getting a Salt PM2

@PoetFisherman

4 ай бұрын

So true. I consistently get better performance out of Spyderco's S30V than I do We Knives' 20CV.

@charlesburtis2442

4 ай бұрын

Same, hard to justify replacing it.

@mikeappleget482

4 ай бұрын

@@charlesburtis2442Spyderco’s S45 is pretty dang impressive.

@charlesburtis2442

4 ай бұрын

It’s definitely tempting

Great show George…thanks!

I like this style. Way to go Blade HQ!

Great video! Thanks for the info, George.

3V for my bark river for batonning and tom follery outdoors. M390 for my daily folder.

@pastepotthot701

4 ай бұрын

Love me some 3v and A2

Wow!! I love this video. It was a lot of fun to watch. Thanks George and the BHQ crew. 😂

Enjoyable video, thanks!

That was a great video George!

Well said George!

Tell me more about “edge geometry and grind angles “

@stout_tossme7541

4 ай бұрын

YES! THIS!

Great video!

Became an immediate fan of magnacut. I personally don't need anything better. Great corrosion resistance for my humid environment and stays sharp for a very long time and is pretty easy to sharpen.

Edge geometry and grind angles... We can help with that!

Solid video! 👊🏼👊🏼

Have the blurple spyderco 2 S 110 V steel and have been loving it.

Well done Broh!

This is a solid into, but there a couple of things I want to correct. Firstly, s90v is generally tougher than maxamet within their respective hardness ranges. S90V is actually weirdly balanced for it's edge retention. Secondly, heat treat is as, if not more important, than steel choice. Ht won't make a bad steel great, but it can make a great steel terrible.

@stout_tossme7541

4 ай бұрын

Yes, often times people forget about heat treat.

Wanna try 3V. I hate when my edge rolls from accidentally hitting a stable or something.

Subbed. Awesome channel thx. I sharpen regularly using supposed "Tungsten Carbide" blades from large paper cutters modified for my simple machines. These blades are readily available online in bulk. I'm probably looking to experimenting with making my own blades after your recommendations. 😉

Knife hobby is an N+1 hobby. there is always a room for another purchase. :) currently own a Tenacious, Resilience, Mora 546, Rat 1 in D2 and Esee 4HM. Planning to get a Dragonfly 2 in H2 soon.

Tbh my Microtech MSI with the m390MK has been working out perfectly for me. Holds its edge extremely well holds up to the light prying I do with it (I have a pocket pry for prying) and even in heavy sweating not a spot of corrosion or even discoloration.

Found my favorite steels, I'm at cruwear>magnacut>m4>k390. 1095 cro-van for big knives. I cut dirty stuff so tougher steels hold an edge better for me. Steels designed for edge retention chip away too fast for my liking. S35vn almost held in there really well (on a cold steel 4-max, anyway) but S90v is the steel that showed me I wanted tougher steel. I see so many great knives and skip them because 20cv/m390/elmax, there's no way I could take that to work.

Brilliant video, very interesting, made me laugh at the end when George is standing out in the rain for no reason 😂👍🏻

Thank you

It would be interesting to see what manufacturers do if someone develops a 10/10 steel in each category. Maybe it’s impossible?

Fun episode. I can't wait for more, maybe even longer.

I've long thought that Cruwear is under-appreciated. For a tool steel, in most environments, it's always been pretty rust resistance. Tough as nails, and holds an edge well. Seems to sharpen up pretty easily too.

@Swearengen1980

3 ай бұрын

One of my EDC folders is Cruwear and I've had no issues with it at all. It's been great.

@mikafoxx2717

3 ай бұрын

Among people that have tried everything, it seems that CruWear, K390, MagnaCut, rex 45, and humble 14c28n are among their absolute favorites.

Whats the hatchet on the back wall next to the hammer?

Vibrainium is obviously the best knife steel.

@patriot925

4 күн бұрын

Wolverine would disagree with you. Adamantium all the way!!

Hardness is often neglected, but imho it is a key factor in a lot of edc tasks. Toughness combines with it to give a good edge stability geometry wise. Those two attributes dictate how thin the blade can be. Then abrasion resistance plays its role in cutting abrasive stuff, which is quite frequent too, and depending on the climate, corrosion resistance will better edge stability and geometry at the very apex over time. So I think the «best» steel should be over 63 hrc and quite tough, with a lot of high carbides, K390 is the ideal candidate for extra thin geometries, Magnacut can be useful for saltwater activities or kitchen knives. I think a good hard D2 is tough enough, stainless enough and will keep a far better edge than 14C or NitroV etc on a budget knife. 154CM and VG10 can be nice too, love how 154CM bites. I find S90V to have the best chainsaw effect and keep it for very long, this thing is a little scary I love it.

I really like the cpm cru wear. Its holds an edge, very tough and easy to shatpen.

CpmCruwear has been one of my favorites.

I think for edc knives, edge retention is the go-to for me. I don't have to sharpen it every single week. it is really satisfying.

My personal fav is CruWear.

Buy a knife from a knifemaker you admire and trust that they've made the right decision for you.

@doransponsel4813

3 ай бұрын

Nah you gotta understand what steel is right for what application. A lot of knife makers make a variety with a range of applications, if you plan on batoning and and beating up the blade, better get one made out of tough steel. Want a knife that's going to retain its edge, for say hunting/game processing etc., get something with more edge retention like s30 on up, in a controlled environment where edge retention is everything, maxamet is your best bet. Underwater rescue in salt water? Lc200

A great to this question: 'Carry more than one knife and each has a different blade steel.' 😮

D2 and 1095 baby

You know what steel surprised me the most S35VN on my protech SBR with a blade under 3 inches. I batoned (YES BATONED) a 2 inch diameter sapling tree. After I could still shave with it, I could not believe it.

@Dinksonly21

4 ай бұрын

That’s pretty normal for even non powder steel

Pretty good timing here since I am currently trying to decide on whether to wait for the Spyderco Military 2 to be available in S90v or buy the already available S30c version

@DuhYaThink

4 ай бұрын

I jumped on the s30v version and love it. If you like PM2’s you will LOVE the Military 2. Cants wait for the cruwear version 😅

@valderhide1674

4 ай бұрын

@@DuhYaThink This is going to be my first Spyderco Knife. Second that I have bought for myself

@DuhYaThink

4 ай бұрын

@@valderhide1674 Very nice 👍🏻

S90v is my favorite steel. It's what I look for in a knife now.

George, did you script this? Great video.

@BladeHQ

4 ай бұрын

I did! We tried something new, and I like how it turned out. Thanks for watching! -George

How come we never wound up with these kind of debates when we talk about hammers, axes, crowbars, screw drivers, or pliers?

@Freakmaster480

4 ай бұрын

People 100% do, you're just not digging deep enough to find it.

@EternityUnknown

2 ай бұрын

Lol. You'd rather be talking about pliers? 😂

Actually "it depends, buy a bunch of knives and find out the best steel for you" pretty much fits my tendency and is the perfect answer for me

thanks George, a fan from New Zealand (fush un chups bruh) since the Ben and Zac days... and you are living up to their standards, keep it up... but please, don't leave... 😂

OOOOOOOO! Excellent!

Just the three coordinates of wear resistance, toughness, and corrosion resistance provide a 3 dimensional cloud. Add in production knife heat treatment and blade geometries, and its more dimensions than we evolved to understand. That said, there are bargain and best options on all these axes. Wear resistance: D2 (non-stainless) is a bargain. S90V (stainless) is best among common knives. Toughness: 14C28N (stainless) is a bargain. 3V (non-stainless) is best ". Corrosion resistance: H2 is a bargain. Vanax 37/Superclean is best ". Balanced? K390 (non-stainless) may be the best knife steel ever, but it isn't very corrosion resistant. Closest stainless in this multidimensional space is MagnaCut.

Avoid the urge to go with the trend for a second camera shooting from the side of the face... It's just awkward! Good information otherwise!

I need some of that x steel

I agree with you that 7Cr17MoV Is the greatest steel of all time. More corrosion resistant than magnacut, Tougher than magnacut And most importantly, higher, wear resistance than magnacut. It truly is a steel that requires no trade-offs, which is what makes the Gerber sumo the greatest knife of all time.

@krefcenz

4 ай бұрын

🥴

Is Swiss Army knife steel any good?

I ll use and sharpen anything . Learn to sharpen and all will be well . That new Hapstone rs is pretty sweet for pocket knives imo . 👍🦅

Got a Buck folding Alpha hunter in 154. VERY TOUGH. Got a maxamet spydie N5 for abrasion resistance and LC200N N5. Got it covered yo

Best bet is to do like he said, get a bunch of different steel types & have at it. Spyderco Paramilitary 2 offers alot if blade steel choices for whatever your into. That's a good place to start.

80CrV2, AEB-L, and Sandvick 14c28n are some of my favorites out there depending on my purpose. The only "super steel" that I think earns that title is Magnacut, but I don't think it's worth what everyone is wanting to charge for it.

@DuhYaThink

4 ай бұрын

I picked up a Manix 2 lw in MagnaCut for $115. But did have lots of rewards points 😅

@ShoahBiz

4 ай бұрын

White river just released a new Ursus cub model and their model 1 in magnacut for a fair price imo. They take it to a great hardness and have wonderful fit and finish and grinding. Those listed steels are all favorites of mine as well

@EdwinDekker71

3 ай бұрын

I second 14c28n

Depending on heat treatment and what type of performance you prefer, MagnaCut can flex into multiple uses. MagnaCut ranges between CruWear & 4V in toughness, between S35VN & M390 in edge retention, and right under LC200N/Vanax in corrosion resistance.

@Swearengen1980

3 ай бұрын

Yep. The best heat treatment on Magnacut I have that has been a great and versatile blade is from MKC. It's simply superior to what I have from others.

@alexferrara9287

3 ай бұрын

@@Swearengen1980 Theres quite a few manufacturers that do MagnaCut correctly. It just depends on your price range and what you’re going to use it for. Mind you, edge geometry and the process of how the HRC is reached, is arguably more important. Is your MKC model the only MagnaCut knife you have/experienced?

@Swearengen1980

3 ай бұрын

​@@alexferrara9287 Nope. A Bradford, Kershaw, Spyderco and MKC. In terms of quality, I'd put them at MKC, Spyderco, Bradford, Kershaw....despite me absolutely hating Spyderco's style (great knives, just ugly to me).

S30v.. Many reasons but it was designed specifically for Pocket knives

I have not tried MagnaCut yet but my favorite steel is the s45 that is on my inkosi

@DuhYaThink

4 ай бұрын

I have a few MagnaCut Spyderco’s. And have used the Native 5 lw serrated a bunch and it’s fantastic 👋

I have a MKM timavo with titanium handle and M390 blade steel... Its by far the best (and most expensive ) letter opener I've ever had. 😅

@PoetFisherman

4 ай бұрын

I've wanted one of those for some time. Have you used it enough to get a feel for the heat treatment?

@DroogyT

4 ай бұрын

@@PoetFisherman can't really say, only had it a short time. But the build quality is excellent! The feel, the lockup, the jimping are amazing.

CPM Cruwear - Non Stainless S35vn - Stainless 14c28n - Budget

The best steel is the one that's in your pocket 👍 I worked in a kitchen and I had a huge knife that I loved, it is the best blade I have ever handled, I could cut tomatoes on a steel surface for weeks and not lose the edge, a fantastic working tool, I think it was 12c27 because it was a french knife made in Thiers. To this day I don't understand why it was so effective. I have many fancy steels, and they perform okay, but I experienced many chips with powder steels cutting cardboard, I avoid cheap steels life 440 a and b, 7cr, 420 and similar because they don't hold an edge even though they don't chip like fancy steels. It's all about balance.

Can someone tell me if D2 is good ? I got my qsp penguin and im in love with this knife, so i wanna know on what should i be carefull

@BladeHQ

4 ай бұрын

D2 is a great steel. It has a solid balance of edge retention and toughness. It's often called "semi-stainless," so it will resist some corrosion, but I've heard from folks in humid climates that they occasionally see rust spots on it. But it's a great, well-balanced steel. I'm old enough to remember when it was only available on high-price knives. The fact that you can get in budget-friendly knives today is awesome. -George

@PoetFisherman

4 ай бұрын

Great edge retention for the money. As a severely corrosion averse type, I kept away from it for a long time. Eventually I bought a CJRB Agave in D2. I've treated it like my stainless knives for two years. No coating it with oil or EDCi. About a month ago I saw a tiiiiiny spot of rust on the forward finger choil, probably from sweaty hands in summer months. It came off with a rust remover with ease. Other than that, in two years the blade has only darkened some. I'm much less snobby about D2 these days.

@mateuszmakowski9974

4 ай бұрын

thanks ! @@BladeHQ

I think the majority of folks do not require any sort of premium steel and will be just fine with AEBL or good old 14CR Heck there's a reason why Buck still uses 420 in many of their knives. Unless you actually know you need a different more premium steel for specific applications You're probably fine just going with non premium entry unless you're trying to collect or just spend money to spend it

@DuhYaThink

4 ай бұрын

I wish Spyderco had more aeb-l on their knives. It’s a great steel. Very tough.👍🏻

@matthewweaver1123

4 ай бұрын

​@@DuhYaThinkI wish the same. I've given thought to buying the aeb-l mule and putting scales on it.

@DuhYaThink

4 ай бұрын

@@matthewweaver1123 That’s the only model I have on aeb-l

@ShoahBiz

4 ай бұрын

Aebl or 14c really are great steels. Cheap, easy to sharpen to a razors edge, great edge strength/stability and stainless

20cv all day I enjoy my magnacut but I have tons sharpen it 5 times for every 1 time one 20cv and I've never had a problem with corrosion with either

Four traits Toughness, Hardness, Resistance to corrosion and ease of sharpening.

Out of all the different steels I have, Including M390,20cv, Nitro V and others. I'm liking my blah blah with D2. Like anything a little maintenance goes a long way. I kinda like to try the powder steel version but it slipped my mind what it's called. It's something that I heard quickly referenced and that's why I can't remember.

@gmoorach

4 ай бұрын

CPM D2

For most peoples uses aus8 or d2 is good enough. Especially if you sharpen your own

I love SPYDIE VG-10

The perfect knife steel DOES exist! It's called Unobtainium. 😮

Surprised that you didn't mention CruWear. Even Dr. Thomas will admit that it is better than Magnacut in edge retention and toughness, and still has pretty decent corrosion resistance, great even for a "high carbon" steel.

Awesome information buddy.

3:20 hammering a cold steel knife with a brick/lock during extreme tip test, feels like joex reference

@BladeHQ

4 ай бұрын

Joe X is a LEGEND! I only wish I was that cool! -George

For me it’s the softer steels. I love being able to quickly and effortlessly touch a blade up on a Spidey sharpmaker or even a leather belt.

Great company

I see a massive difference between cheap stainless(420?) and the different tool steels(hap 40, k390, s110v, m390 ect.), but I don’t see the difference between the super steels to any meaningful degree as far as edge holding for my pocket knives. I don’t let my knives sit with salty juices on them and haven’t seen rust but have forced patina using vinegar. I payed a huge premium to access and work with these new steels and Ike them but the price for them is a bit steep for what they are(knives you don’t have to sharpen as much but take diamond or a lot of work to sharpen)

It's almost like knives are tools and tools are built to their needed task 😮

me wth all my d2 steel.... " i just think they're neat"

If they didn't print it on the side of the blade nobody would really care

Man I miss my spydiechef

420hc,440, aus8, 10i, vg10, 1075,1095 all good. Get a sharpener, get a rag with some oil. The rest is hype.

the "best" balanced Steel , so alround steel is now CPM- MAGNACUT

@danjones7

4 ай бұрын

S35VN is great too magnacut got a lot of hype

@freeride200

4 ай бұрын

@@danjones7 s35VN is not bad, but Price and Performance is Magnacut unbeatable NOW! Magnacut is a very fine Struktur, so that u cannot compare to any Steel is the most Toughest Stainless Steel what u can buy! so when u ask me, what is the Best Allround Steel it is Magnacut, without any doubt! Now at the moment!

@ShoahBiz

4 ай бұрын

@@danjones7yeah s35 is great but magnacut is as good or better in every category. Still s35vn is plenty good enough and most people wouldn’t notice a difference between the two anyways

I must collect them all!

@DuhYaThink

4 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s what I was thinking about 2 years ago. Now I have over 150 Spyderco knives and need to sell a bunch 🤦‍♂️

@seanchupp7455

4 ай бұрын

@@DuhYaThink I try to mix it up over my year

Elmax is my opinion is the goat, it's sooo good. I'll take it over anything🤤