I think a hospital chapter is super likely. The more I think about Rudy, and the fact Noelle is a healer in the dark world, the more I feel like she's going to try to heal her dad somehow.

@imnotpepperoni

9 ай бұрын

Exactly what i thought earlier.For some reason i think a dark world will appear in Ice-e's.

@martinat3884

9 ай бұрын

"Kris performs surgery"

@Protendo

9 ай бұрын

I think that’s likely. As Noelle becomes more aware of Dark Worlds and realizes that her “dream” was in fact real, she’s going to be more willing to abandon her troubled reality (missing sister, dying father, perfectionist mother) at every turn. I can see an emotional Chapter 5 occurring where Noelle has to accept by the end that she’s not able to heal her dad.

@TallyHalll

9 ай бұрын

Wow hi Polyhex I’m a big fan hope you are good😊

@thegamingbrood264

9 ай бұрын

i didnt know you played deltarune

Honestly I could see Toby having a dark world in a single door just to have Kris and suize try to do they’re Normal entry only to not be able to fit in the door at the same time

@drowned2204

8 ай бұрын

That... *oh yes*

@mihirohiroka9615

8 ай бұрын

I would love for this to be the case XD

@conradolosada7835

8 ай бұрын

that would be funny

@Cornbread33y

8 ай бұрын

That's exactly what i was thinking, feels like something Toby would do hehe

@A_H1kikOm0ri

6 ай бұрын

Oh yes *suize*

I think that underwater, where onion is, is going to be a dark world. Imagine going to the place and just seeing the entire ocean become dark.

@MeloniestNeon

9 ай бұрын

I'd LOVE that reveal, walking into that area and just the slow realization as the music fades that the entire ocean is pitch black, and that the whole sea floor for MILES has become a dark world, true late-game eldritch horror material right there!

@Fighter_Builder

9 ай бұрын

That'd be freaky. It'd definitely be a real "oh god this is getting out of hand" moment considering the previous ones were confined to rooms. I'd also be very interested in seeing what an ocean dark world would look like 🤔

@yallow2916

9 ай бұрын

I’m just imagining it now, kris limping slowly over to the lake, soul in the cage on the wagon. kris pulls out a knife, diving into the lake, it’s quiet for a moment, then a tower of darkness shoots out of the lake. Kris pulls themselves back up to put their soul back, and dives back into the lake, now pitch black with darkness… Would be a good message against oil spills ngl

@MeloniestNeon

9 ай бұрын

@@Fighter_Builder Water levels may be hated, but I LOVE ocean aesthetics, so a water darkworld would be my absolute favorite. Maybe the bunker is flooded, or is itself a storm bunker, and has ties to the weird deep ocean themes around Gaster and the intro?

@MeloniestNeon

9 ай бұрын

@@yallow2916 I could see that if Kris is indeed the Knight. I'm personally against them just being THE knight but I could see them opening more and more fountains themselves during say, a snowgrave route, speeding up the roaring. (On Kris knight: King clearly would have recognized them, as well as all the minor evidence such as Kris having little to no time to open a fountain in the Library before it opens/closes and people notice)

i believe we could get a dark world inside the sewers of home town too. maybe the knight is using the tunnel system as a way to get around unnoticed

@slimerite8912

9 ай бұрын

If we dont get a sewer rat as a secret boss for a sewer dark world then Ima get real violent

@FNAFman1983

9 ай бұрын

Like the basilisk?

@FNAFman1983

9 ай бұрын

@@slimerite8912 Seam could be the secret boss and send out sewer rats

@GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg

9 ай бұрын

Is there a way to enter the school or library from the sewers though? Well the school has an unused door that could have an entrance; but the library seems pretty thoroughly explored on ground level and doesn't even have a bathroom, so the Knight would have to leave the sewers to enter the library normally. That seems an unnecessary and incredibly notice-drawing extra step to take compared to just walking to a public library. So it may still be on the table if the Knight is Papyrus.

@slimerite8912

9 ай бұрын

@@GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg dude, It’s just like a what if.

tbh, i'm kinda surprised i haven't seen anyone mention the diner. the possibilities there for a dark world are easy to see, with catti and her family, jockington, and even bratty (since she and catty talk about how they always find themselves running into each other). on top of that, there's a lot of creativity to be found in a restaurant-themed world

@IcyDiamond

9 ай бұрын

There’s also the fact they’re clearly setting up for an arc about Catti appreciating her family

@tanushrmenon

9 ай бұрын

@@IcyDiamondit'll be so cool if Catti is a party member, using arcane magic to cast spells

@yallow2916

9 ай бұрын

Random thought but this comment made me wonder if we’re gonna watch a dark world get opened out in public in front of a bunch of people, that would be interesting to see in the diner

@icepuppet8217

9 ай бұрын

I think that catti and jockington are going to be in a dark world because they have sprites in their dialogs and like different "voices"? Like the sounds of the caracter in text, just like noelle and blue bird

@lemonsok

9 ай бұрын

@@icepuppet8217 right, that's why i believe we're going to see catti, catty, bratty, and jockington in a dark world, and the place that would make the most sense for them is the diner

I do think another unseen location could be an obvious place for a dark world - Noelle's House. Depending on what will end up regarding Dess - some saying she is trapped in a dark world - why not one in her own home?

@polybius-jy5rc

9 ай бұрын

maybe as chapter 5, as a reflection of chapter 3, so i think it will go like this, ch 3 kris's house, ch 4 some form of restaurant or maybe sans's shop, ch 5 noelles home, ch 6 the hospital, ch 7 the church, and instead of the church having a secret boss the secret boss may be located inside the bunker like structure only unlockable with all of the shadow shard's.

@pochijp

9 ай бұрын

​@@polybius-jy5rcSince the bunker seems to be a very important location, I don’t think it would be optional...

@polybius-jy5rc

9 ай бұрын

@@pochijp but it being optional make's a lot of sense because, why would kris and susie go there, they would need to be lead there or go out of there way to do so. it being an optional area with huge lore drop's and a boss only dedicated fan's would care about would be an amazing reward for the player's who care enough to go after it.

@nguyenhoang6702

9 ай бұрын

Off topic but remember the ladder at the end of that alleyway with the milk saucer? Personally I don't think another Dark World might necessarily take place at wherever the ladder leads to, but if we ever get to climb on it and get a view of The Titans slowly making their way to Hometown behind the trees in the last chapter, that'd be sick.

@silverv2964

8 ай бұрын

Noelle has already been very explored in chapter 2, it's unlikely to have another chapter centered on her life and her family

Personally I think we might start seeing dark worlds that are shorter, but with multiple of them per chapter. I mean, just one dark fountain isn’t gonna trigger the roaring, so it’d make sense if the knight began to ramp up their creation of fountains and we saw more per chapter (assuming there isn’t a reason for their slow creation like being controlled by someone else’s soul during the day or something lol).

@nate09392

9 ай бұрын

Maybe in one of the later chapters that would be a good idea but it's pretty much confirmed that opening more than 2 fountains causes the roaring (one always being the closet fountain) and the other being our adventure in that chapter. It would be kind of weird if the roaring happened in chapter 3 and lasted for 4 chapters. That's not gonna happen, since Hometown Day's description is "After a long adventure/night, the sun shines brightly." We know that during the roaring, the fountains fill the sky, even making stars invisible.

@theroyaltrash

9 ай бұрын

@@nate09392 where was it implied more than 2 fountains = roaring? I interpreted Ralsei’s panic at the end of ch2 more over the situation getting out of hand or over opening a fountain while in a fountain than “opening a third fountain will literally trigger the roaring right here and now” if that’s what you’re implying.

@merpymerpington9175

9 ай бұрын

@@theroyaltrash @nate09392 Plus, Ralsei is DEFINITELY hiding something. It could well be that having more than two dark fountains is bad for HIS plan but doesn't necessarily trigger the Roaring.

@nate09392

9 ай бұрын

@@theroyaltrash Well at least opening a dark world within a dark world will cause it. Or maybe not, as some believe that Dess did that

@sinfull_king

9 ай бұрын

Well, i assume two = roaring is because there already is a fountain existing in hometown: The one made out of PURE darkness (which will probably resemble the BIG Titan in the middle). If there are two fountains being opened, there will be 3 existing in hometown, and following the picture we saw during Ralsei's explanation of the roaring, it is safe to assume that 3 fountains will cause it to occur. It could be different though, so this is all just speculation. We'll see how the story will lead us

One thing to note about the festival : Carnival-like appliances have been weirdly prominent in the 2 Dark Worlds we got thus far ? A carousel in Jevil's battle, and, especially out of place in chapter 2's dark world : the roller-coasters and the teacup rides. I wonder what that could be implying, but I feel like it's related to the Festival being important.

@pureinsanity933

9 ай бұрын

Don't forget the ferris wheel

@jnapoutiha5938

9 ай бұрын

@@pureinsanity933 That is true ! And most of them happen to relate to secret bosses in some way thus far.

@yallow2916

9 ай бұрын

@@jnapoutiha5938finally some else notices

@off-the-grounder568

3 ай бұрын

Also festivals would be great for the discarding theme, as every thing used only for the festival would be discarded or put into storage afterwards.

@T-Dawg75

2 ай бұрын

I simply think that the carnival will call upon the teacup thing again just for gameplay’s sake

Another theming I've noticed is that each dark world is based off of a form of escapism. CH1: Games and Fun CH2: Internet CH3: Television CH4: Religion So it would make more sense to have the Flower Shop to be a dark world as hospital isn't really an escapism, but gardening is sort of (feel like it would be more of an art chapter as gardening is a form of art I think). Festival/Party is a given and having that or next chapter be the roaring would fit with the theme of embracing the worlds end (Seam, Jevil, King).

@justice8718

9 ай бұрын

Religion is not escapism. It’s when you get slapped by God himself or a demon in disguise. Jesus Christ is literally real and his book (kjv) dominates the entire world. It gets into very rough and scary places.

@pochijp

9 ай бұрын

Wow! It’s really a super cool theory. I love it

@pochijp

9 ай бұрын

​@@justice8718Sorry but I got to disagree. There are people who actually do love and religion is good for them, and when they're tired of the world and people, going to church is a form of escapism from the real world to cherish your god and live through their words.

@raymondthrone7197

9 ай бұрын

@@justice8718 Regardless of any actual truth behind a religion, religion itself can absolutely be used as a form of escapism. Escapism in its purest form is a way to get away from mundanity-- either by re-framing your life so it has more meaning, or by re-framing it to eliminate things you don't like and include more things you do like. It's actually for this reason that I'm a bit skeptical of either the flower shop *or* hospital; I think one of the themes going forward is using "work" and/or "politics" as an escape, which to me suggests the mayor is going to be subject to a Dark World.

@yoisakikanade_

8 ай бұрын

are chapters 3 and 4 confirmed did i miss something

To be honest, I would have assumed the bunker door and the festival would have switched places, where the bunker door being where the sort of... plot... turning point happens where you learn something that causes a paradigm shift, and the festival could simultaneously be the setting of a dark world and the Roaring.

@-Teague-

9 ай бұрын

I like this better

@tadeojablonski105

6 ай бұрын

Also the fact that the bunker is likely related to Gaster, it’d make sense for it to feature on chapter SIX

I like the idea of Sans and Papyrus's house as one of the Dark Worlds. clearly it's gonna be a plot point that Sans keeps mentioning "Oh yeah tomorrow" or whatever he says. and seeing Sans and Papyrus as Lightners would be pretty cool. I like the idea of Papyrus in Deltrarune being a lazy bum who never goes outside and plays video games all day acting out as a Hero in those games. and when he becomes the hero in the Dark world it restores his confidence and as we near the end of the chapter he just gets his usual Papyrus charm back more confidence and even by the end of it calling himself "THE GRREAT PAPYRUS!!" as he defeats the final boss.

@BlazingImp77151

8 ай бұрын

psure that sans says you will probably get to see papyrus when asriel returns during one of the bits of his chapter 2 dialogue. could just be him delaying and giving some abstract future date, but given asriel is coming home in a week (or whatever was said.)(possibly in time for the festival?), its entirely possible that we meet him then (or not at all).

My personal prediction is that ch.6 is where we get to the bunker, and then ch.7 is the roaring and all that entails. Mostly cause trying to cram all of the bunker dark world in with all of the roaring hometown stuff seems just a bit too much for one chapter. Otherwise though, love these predictions!

@Brazman

9 ай бұрын

I agree. I'd wager the bunker will be Deltarune's equivalent of Undertale's True Lab, except covering the story of Gaster's folly this time instead of Alphys.

@sydney9156

9 ай бұрын

What if the roaring and the festival take place together? A chaos apocalypse themed around a carnival? Sign me the hell up

@ikooozinha

9 ай бұрын

​@@sydney9156the festival is ocurring in chapter 3

@TraitorousHomeworlder

9 ай бұрын

​@@ikooozinha That theory doesn't make much sense to me, for a number of reasons. Where's your evidence?

@xstar9567

9 ай бұрын

​@@ikooozinhaproof?

Made a list with possible darkworld locations you didn't mention: Ice - E's (i know it sounds dumb but cause of the sweepstakes it is an option) Noelle's house (This is kind of a cop out but it still would be cool) The other unused classroom (kinda boring just depends on what's in it) The mayor's office (maybe , basically the same as noelle's house) A NEO DARK WORLD: So a dark world inside of a dark world (This is 100% gonna happen ,but probaply for later chapters like 6 or 7

@stormy_does_stuff

9 ай бұрын

also sans and papyrus's house and maybe sans's shop

@BarberAnimations

9 ай бұрын

In chapter 3 teaser sweepstakes thing, there’s a chair that starts to glitch, and it says « what if it could get darker than dark

@andrewrobinson8542

9 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure lorewise than when you make a new dark fountain in or near an existing dark world, it just expands it instead of creating one that goes a layer deeper. Queen talks about expanding the cyber city beyond the library and Chapter 1's Dark World was the same world as Castle Town just much bigger due to the proximity of their fountains. I mean the idea of nested dark worlds sounds cool but I just don't think that's how dark fountains work based on the evidence we have.

@wariothelegend9645

8 ай бұрын

i firmly believe the Nightmare Ice-E thing from the Undertale FUN events existing is incredibly suspicious and probably turning up in Deltarune at some point. even though it would most likely be the burnt pizza box that's currently buried underneath the graveyard (which could probably be amalgamated with the church), my favorite concept for that thing had it in a ice-e pizzeria dark world as some kind of snow/ice level, which would be a fairly easy theme to make an entire dark world out of. you could also definitely make noelle's house or the mayors office an ice world if either of those end up being dark worlds.

@Goallpeashooters

8 ай бұрын

@@wariothelegend9645 Ice-E's pizza could also literally be hell. Considering that Burger Pants works there, and Pizzeria's use ovens, it makes sense.

I'm honestly thinking that the Bunker will be an extra Dark World that will get opened if you've done the previous superbosses in the chapters either before Chapter 6 or 7

@Hypnos45

9 ай бұрын

Yeah it's hard to tell whether it's supposed to be a secret world/boss or the final one

@BarberAnimations

9 ай бұрын

I want a gaster epic theme like monster yet monster

@Hypnos45

9 ай бұрын

@@BarberAnimations I think if Gaster does appear as a boss, Toby might give it a new theme entirely with leitmotifs of the old version

@pochijp

9 ай бұрын

​@@Hypnos45I actually don't think so? I mean, it actually does mean something within the game and the characters. I don’t think it will be skipped nor optional

@Hypnos45

9 ай бұрын

@@pochijp what do you think it might be then?

I finally got around to playing Deltarune 1-2 last month, and it got me very excited to see what happens next. The first two dark worlds were amazing, and your picks for the future ones would be really cool to see. I'd love to see the carnival idea actually happen

I noticed something. Call it a hunch but, does anyone else noticed that the people who join you in dark worlds have face portraits next to their dialogue (Susie, Noelle, Birdly, and even Toriel)? Jockington and Casti also have those face portraits. Coincidence? I think NOT!

@CharaDreemurr_TheyThem

9 ай бұрын

If Chapter 4 is the church setting, Catti will definitely be there. She has an interest in the occult so she would make sense to be there. Plus your thing with the portraits. Since Jockington is pretty good friends with her he'll probably be there too

@TheSkyGuy77

9 ай бұрын

Father Alvin will also be there.

@IcyDiamond

9 ай бұрын

@@CharaDreemurr_TheyThemAnd they’re setting up an arc of her appreciating her family

@mikubrot

9 ай бұрын

all important characters have them tbh

@yallow2916

9 ай бұрын

PIZZAPANTS IN THE DARK WORLD FUCK YEAH

There is a slight possibility too that a chapter can have multiple fountains. It obviously hasn’t happened yet, but it could be that multiple short dark-worlds happen simultaneously as things get worse.

I think Ch. 6 is almost definatly the bunker what with the mus_smile and gaster's stats all being 6s, then again, could be too obvious

@Protendo

9 ай бұрын

Man, I’m usually so Gaster-minded that I can’t believe I let the obvious 6 synergy slip my mind here lol. Yeah that’d make a lot of sense. A chapter with the bunker PLUS the roaring might be too packed.

@zingywolf7300

9 ай бұрын

To add onto it, what if when the bunker section is done the festival begins with the roaring happening right after, with the entire town being front and center as the final dark world.

I think if we do get the hospital Dark World, it wouldnt be a medical theme. Instead, I think it'll 100% be ice themed, specifically based on the one game Noelle played according to the Spamton Sweepstakes.

@BlazingImp77151

8 ай бұрын

not just based on the sweepstakes, wasnt she actually playing it with her dad at the end of chapter two? and depending on whether you did snowgrave or not she uses either a fire or ice ability on the ice boss?

@bitchassmoththing

5 ай бұрын

it could also mix both the ice and hospital themes as well

Great video! Personally, I headcanon the dark worlds as going like this Chapter 4: Church (come on) Chapter 5: Graveyard (bit of an unorthodox choice, I know, but I feel like the Ice-E story from the sweepstakes is setup for a secret boss here, plus there could be great potential for stuff with Snowy!) Chapter 6: Holiday Manor (I think Rudy would want to be as close to home as possible in his final moments, and I also feel like there's more thematic potential here than the Hospital) Chapter 7: Festival + Bunker (The Roaring happening on the day of Festival would be a great way to have all the characters out in the open and vulnerable, and your goal could be to make it to the Bunker so you can find some sort of weapon to defeat The Titans)

@polybius-jy5rc

9 ай бұрын

if the festival become's one wouldn't that make it a dark carnival *the audience start's giving very confused look's* references to game's way older than me aside, other than the graveyard it's a pretty reasonable list.

@BarberAnimations

9 ай бұрын

And what about the flower shop ?

@kirbyridingyoshi28

9 ай бұрын

@@BarberAnimations Oh, I have something else in mind for that

@polybius-jy5rc

9 ай бұрын

@@BarberAnimations well if asgore appear's in chapter 3 then there's no point as the main story reason for a flower shop fountain would be to get information on him, but we'll have that information if he's in ch3.

@justice8718

9 ай бұрын

Asgore’s shop has seven flowers in a game with seven chapters. He is the final destination.

I think the double door change for ch. 2 was just to have the animation for entering the dark world work better, it doesn't necessarily have to repeat for every dark world the characters come across (though I think the animation plays every time you go to Castle Town?) The church doors for example are too thin for both characters to run in, even if it is a double door.

My predictions are : The church, The hospital, The graveyard and as final chapter either the flower shop, either the bunker.

I honestly want the carnival to have something where we get Jevils item (forgot what it was) and he becomes important

7:38 in relation to the possible flower shop dark world, I find it interesting that the doubles doors are INSIDE the building. As opposed to the other doors leading into the dark worlds and their rooms, these doors would lead AWAY from the main room (with all the flowers). So maybe, if this room will be a dark world location, we would have to enter from the outside/other room connected to it, and finally see what’s behind Asgore’s shop? Just a thought.

@pochijp

9 ай бұрын

OOOOOH maybe in that door there is an actual garden! Like a greenhouse maybe

Personally, I would switch the bunker and festival. The dark world happening in the real world feels like a massive finale

I think the reason Toby changed the lab door to a double door to fit the animation in, if Toby made an animation where Susie jumps in behind or before Kris then it probably would of stayed as one door

I feel like ch6 and ch7 should be switched, it would probably go something like this: the festival is starting Kris and Susie go to the bunker with noelle and have a day adventure blah blah blah, then when they leave there's just a bunch of dark worlds all around the hometown festival, this could end as a perfect cliffhanger and could bring back Asriel and some other characters to get some late game plot relevance.

I feel like the vessel is gonna come in the sooner chapters of deltarune,since its just no way that vessel is being discarded like nothing,there has to be some lore in it

It's all but confirmed that Chapter 7 will have you seal the Castle Town fountain, and while I'd love a final section to involve the bunker, unless Toby pulls a Gaster Egg (pun on Easter Egg) and inserts a "Chapter ?" after Chapter 7, I doubt the bunker will be anything except Chapter 6 or prior.

@merpymerpington9175

9 ай бұрын

Maybe the Bunker won't be a Dark World, but will be important if/when The Roaring starts and reality starts to work like a Dark World? It could also be a secret dungeon that occurs in the Light World using the old Undertale mechanics.

@misadique845

9 ай бұрын

There ARE sprites for chapters 8, 9, 10 and 0 in the games files of chapter 2...

@chongwillson972

9 ай бұрын

@Lxndwich sealing home town sounds like an awful choose , all those darkeners and ralsei would messed up.

@-Teague-

9 ай бұрын

​@@misadique845where'd you hear that?

@-Teague-

9 ай бұрын

Why would you seal the castle town fountain? That would kill literally every darkner you've recruited

The dark worlds always take the form of an imaginary realm associated with an object in the room, i.e. the chess set, the computer and the tv for chapter 3. If we do get a hospital chapter, it could involve Noelle's game console that she brings with her to visit her dad. :)

I would love it if we got at least a little peak in chapter 5 of the bunker, as we’re in for another long wait after that. I think chapter 5 has a pretty big job in setting up mystery, speculation and cliffhangers for 6 and 7, which I could see being something completely different than we’ve seen so far. I agree with the people saying there may be chapters with multiple dark worlds. Maybe in chapter 5 we will enter the bunker and come against another locked door inside that we will have to visit many dark worlds in 6&7 to open. Kind of like the mechanic in UT with the hotland and true lab doors.

2:15 I think it's the other way around. The door probably wasn't changed from a single door to a double door for any symbolic reasons, it was changed to a double door to make re-using Kris and Susie's new Dark World transition animations easier.

I think that their could potentially be a dark world in San and Papyrus’s house with how much papyrus and Kris’s “playdates” been pushing, plus I kinda just wanna see Papyrus adventuring with the gang 😅

this is awesome! not that well read on the theory stuff, but shooting from my gut id say between the church, hospital and asgores shop one pair is going to get mixed. i could totally see a serious event playing out in one during the light world exploration before moving to another for darkworld time... or even having two dark worlds in one chapter, I dunno! I have a hard time seeing the church take up its own chapter unless noelle's winter theme gets mixed in, but with the nurse sprites from updates that I dont thiiiink have been used? Im pretty sure hospital is a lock

i feel like the festival would be cool as a final chapter, maybe it envelops the entire town and will allow you to backtrack to previous chapters?

I think a wonderful idea for the Hospital dark world is not a hospital one at all. Rudy dies while Noelle is in the room with him, and she is completely inconsolable, Kris and Susie show up but see that the entire hospital is blocked off with a big crowd and police, all wondering whats going on. Once Kris and Susie sneak inside somehow, they see that the door to Rudy's room is frozen shut, and you can hear Noelle's loud sobbing and screaming from the other side. They manage to break the door down and see a dense blizzard in the hospital room, with Noelle and Rudy in the center. Noelle starts hitting the ground in desperate frustration, imbuing her will and determination into the ring on her finger, and she makes a dark fountain right in front of Kris and Susie. The dark world itself wouldn't be Hospital themed, instead, its Noelle themed. She made herself into a dark world. The level will be very ice palace themed but mostly will be about classic fantasy rpg or other video game related things, since Noelle is known for her interest in games and Dragon Blazers. The main goal will be helping Noelle (she wouldn't be present in the whole chapter, just Noelle in the abstract) through her loss.

Regarding the carnival, it brings to mind some obscure connections- many Darkners, especially in the Card Kingdom, are based on things that have been ignored or abandoned, which is a strong thematic element in Deltarune. As it happens, many Japanese monsters called Yokai are created from unloved or abandoned items. Toby, being a notable weeb, is likely familiar with this. Another part of the yokai myth is the Night Parade, where yokai invade the world of mortals in what could either be an orderly procession or a violent riot. If the Carnival is a Dark World, I can see it being an homage to this myth, where the Darkners come into Hometown in force to either happily reconnect with their beloved Lightners or vent their grievances upon them.

I think one of those Dark Worlds is going to be Ice-E's

11:24 I'd personally swap 5 and 6 and replacing the festival with the hospital, I'd think Asgore would decorate and brighten up his flower shop for the festivities making it a carnival in a jungle dark world.

My personal hopes are that we get a dark world in at least Noelle's house (or a visit to it in Ch. 3 post dark world, most of the daytime chapter taking place there or around the town doing little minigames and quests, hence the "unique gameplay" part) and in either the Diner or Ice-Es, two very obviously themed and unique areas! Either would work great for Catti and Jockington's side chapter, as I doubt Catti would willingly go to Ice-E's without Jockington convincing her, and the duo has already been seen at QC's.

I don't think it's likely but imagine if the graveyard became a horrifying dark world

Asgores… FLOWER SHOP!!?? EITH THE PERFECTLY PLACED FLOWER WITH THE SAME EXACT COLORATION OF FLOWEY?

There are just so many options that I love so I have two ways to break the rules to get more dark worlds, one is that in the code there are sprites for chapter 0 and chapter 8-10 which could add an additional 3-4 chapters with new dark worlds, also there could definitely be more than one dark world per chapter, I think that’s pretty probable.

Who said a dark world has to be in an enclosed space? I could see the carnival being a final dungeon, a twisted parody of all the familiar locations as the entire town is plunged into darkness by the roaring.

hmmm having noelles house as a dark world location sound like a good choice basing whole chapter around christmas sounds fun

I feel like ch 3 is going to be the last chapter where everything is going to be fun and lighthearted, not saying future chapters won’t have their own fun elements, but I think after ch3 things are going to progressively get more serious and grim. Kinda similar to in certain anime where they have the ‘beach episode’ and everyone puts aside their responsibilities for one day to have fun for once, before they pass the point of no return and face the main bad guy. (iirc, the festival is supposed to happen “tomorrow” right? So maybe once Kris and Susie leave the dark world, they’ll probably be just in time for the festival.)

@BlazingImp77151

8 ай бұрын

i dont think the festival was given a set day. "tomorrow" rudy is going to church, so its probably not then. asriel is coming home "a week" after chapter 1, so maybe he comes home for the last chapter(s), and that's when the festival takes place?

@riccardobanti9203

6 ай бұрын

​@@BlazingImp77151Asriel is said to be arriving in town "next week", not exactly "a week after chapter 1". If ch.1 happens on Friday and ch.2 happens on Saturday, then the "church day" would be Sunday, like in catholic tradition. The day of Asriel's arrival could be as soon as Monday

I can totally see Toby trolling us by making the last Dark World going to finally meet Sans' brother only for his house's door to be a dark world. Because then, friends, he has an excuse to make a sick Freedom Leitmotif Revamp of Megalovania, or use STMPWYFS in some way also.

I think a grocery store would be a great place for a dark world, and the one in hometown is run by sans, so if we’re to believe that he is a darkner, he must have got out from somewhere. Plus, it’s speculated that in UT the reason he can teleport is him using the dark world, and most people think that UT sans came from Deltarune. Also Toby probably will make sans a party member due to popular demand.

I think there will be one in sans and papyrus's house. It has a lot of stuff in it, papyrus will have a fun time, sans won't be there, and by the time sans gets back the fountain will be closed. It would also be cool to see papyrus's room be a dark world. The racecar bed, action figures, and pirates maybe (Although his room might be different then in undertale but we don't know that)

Very cool episode would love to see more content like this

I think Flower Shop should be Ch6. King > Queen > Rook (TV) > Bishop (Church) > Knight > Pawns (Flowers) > Ch7 Shennanigans. The knight could play a huge role in Ch5, but I dont think its gonna be the end, and the Bunker could still be in Ch7, rather than focused on the Knight. It would be cool if everyone was at the festival during Ch5, only for a mysterious figure opening a dark fountain right then and there, dragging everyone. Slowly we zero down on the Knight and stop his tracks. But he reveals that the story isnt over, then *boom* someone who wasnt at the party opens up a fountain to talk to his flowers. We go scold Asgore, telling him that opening dark worlds is bad, then *boom* the bunker opens up.

Solid theories here, I’m pretty excited to find out how many you got right!

8:54 Or Toby can just have the camera pan to the side as Kris and Susie stand before the door, bypassing the whole off-center issue.

Honestly, a festival dark world sounds amazing. Just imagine:a dark world out in the hometown, in a large place with carnivals and stuff and lots of people. Up until now, all dark worlds have been in enclosed spaces and a late game dark world with so much space yet the looming dread of the roaring is just a fantastic idea.

Great vid, I've never heard of that double door theory but it makes a lot of sense to me. I pretty much agreed with every locations chapter placement although maybe I would switch the festival to be one chapter ealier? Its hard to say.

A possible 5th or 6th darkworld location I could see is the cemetery. The double doors thing might be a issue depending on what counts as suitable doors. But the reason I suggest is because if Rudy dies Noelle might be tempted to open one there and bring darker amalgamates from the buried dust covered items in the Graves. Theme would be about letting go and moving on. Anyway. I enjoyed the video. And I can see your flower shop or hospital guesses working well. As for the carnival. I'm just skeptical because some of cyber city was carnival related and would be weird to see again.

One thing I think you're not accounting for is that we're not getting the rest of Deltarune all at once. Currently Toby's plan is to finish and release chapters 3-5 together and then 6 and 7 later. Because of this, I'm putting my bets on the bunker bring chapter 5's dark world. Either chapter 5 will be the grand finale and 6 and 7 are little extra epilogue chapters of some sort, or chapter 5 is a climax that ends on a cliffhanger, and 6 and 7 will be Deltarune's long-awaited finale

@commenteroftruth9790

9 ай бұрын

Where was this stated? I thought he was releasing all chaps at once/around the same time.

@duckman9327

9 ай бұрын

@@commenteroftruth9790by Toby himself

@commenteroftruth9790

9 ай бұрын

@@duckman9327 okay i guess ill have to look that up

This theory is wonderful! I would be surprised if you where wrong on any of them. And also these are great candidates because of your variety rule it gives a lot more creativity into these dark worlds !

Honestly I think one of the most likely dark worlds is the lake where we meet onion since they talk about a strange song coming from the bottom. That could indicate that the dark world was created before hand

Awesome video. I basically don’t disagree with anything. If I had to guess where the chapter 6 dark world would be, I think it’d be a connected dark world with chapter 7 where the roaring starts in the bunker. The roaring just seems like a really big event to the point that 2 chapters is believable. Then again, if chapter 6 is a “regular” dark world, I can absolutely see it taking place at the festival. Great work!

Wild theory: Kris and Toby (and gaster too, why not) fooled us with the cutscenes and the chapter 3 is in the church. That happened with chapter 1's final cutscene.

Nobody here's really talking about a location I think is almost guaranteed: the diner. Firstly, it fits every rule, and would have plenty weight with how Asriel and Kris met up there to work narratively. Plus, Catti's a shoein for being part of a dark world, and she works there. For evidence pointing to it clearly however, everybody for some reason skips over Gaster's reactions to our naming choice. In particular, the fact that the name QC, the obscure npc running the diner, is the only non-student or non-undertale character to get a reaction from him. She HAS to be important. The diner going dark would be a very easy reason why.

So technichally, Ice-E's is a candidate since it has double doors

Tbh I think we might have a dark world in Sans and Papyrus' house, seeing as there has been a lot of buildup for the hangout with papyrus

I think the festival being the last chapter would make sense considering it would turn THE ENTIRE TOWN into a dark world, every character would be in play!

the bunker is 100% going to be important. maybe as a dark world, maybe things start to leech into the overworld. onion has something for us, there is/was someone they heard singing in/near the water. again, could be a dark world could be the real world. probably a side quest since its very possible to not talk to onion from what I've heard. I can see all the locations you mentioned (hospital, church, festival, flowershop) becoming involved too. - The hospital I see more than some of the others, as noelle has been established as a semi-main character (we cant kill her like we can the other non-main-three lighter that ends up in the dark world, she is a party member for a while, and she has some pretty significant development (including her missing sister).) Though honestly rudy and noelle could also be established in just one chapter, involving the church and possibly a second dark world at the hospital?. - The flowershop is for sure a likely location and/or red herring. - the church is for sure coming as chapter 4, or at least being involved in chapter 4's plot. since only nights have been passing between chapters, so next chapter (excluding 3) will be the next day, which is the day that rudy is going to try to go to church. - The festival is a great location for a big finale, or a major event that sends out heroes into the bunker. Basically I can think of 6 locations, with only 4 chapters that don't have something confirmed. I am pretty confident in two, one seems to be some form of side quest (or another access to it will be established, or onion is not the only way to find out about it), and the rest I really am unsure about. I think in the end one of the locations is going to be an overworld thing, which will leave us with 4 dark worlds and the side quest (be it overworld or not). I mean it could all end up as a fountain if the roaring causes a bunch of fountains to pop up in one of the later chapters. Finally, we have a bunch of things culminating for the very end. the festival, Asriel arriving in a week (though that would line up with 1 day after the final chapter if the third chapter had been for a day, so now 2 days after), papyrus appearing when asriel does unless sans/Toby are fucking with us, etc. i think that the final chapters are going to be big.

@BlazingImp77151

8 ай бұрын

oop, another location for the noelle stuff, her home. or the mayor's office. both for dess/december(?), and for connections to her parents and stuff.

I think ch4 will be the church, ch5 the flower shop or the festival, ch6: the bunker/shelter (obviously), and ch7: the festival and the Roaring.

A note I'd like to add: the bunker will most likely lead to the depths

I feel the hospital would actually mark a better 4th chapter, it's smack down in the middle of a fairly odd number of chapters, I feel a strong emotional chapter could mark a before and after In the story, first 3 being more light hearted and the last 3 heavier emotionally

I agree with this list, except for one, chapter six. I think that instead of the festival being a dark world in it's own, I think the *Town Hall* would be the dark world there. The festival could be something at the end of seven, interrupted by the roaring.

@ghifariasoka8272

3 ай бұрын

I think the same too. The Roaring will happen in Chapter 7, and that'll explain how the Festival (something outdoors) will have a Dark World

my predictions: c3:tv c4:circus c5:hospital c6:museum c7:the bunker

I think that chapter 6 will be the bunker and chapter 7 will be the roaring

Crystalrune my Au for where Deltarune’s remaining chapters will take place Chapter 3: Home Entertainment (Kris’s house) Chapter 6: A World of Faith (The church) Chapter 4Mystical Garden (???) Chapter 5Colorful Festival (Hometown’s Festival) Chapter 8 Reverie of Shattered Hopes (The Roaring) Chapter 7: (Bunker/The Depths(The void) Candleholder inspired chapter (???)

8:34 Extra motivation for Noelle to make a Dark Fountain would be her ability to use healing magic. When her father’s condition gets worse she makes a dark fountain so she can try and use healing magic on him, or maybe get Ralsei to help. She even mentioned how she wishes she knew healing magic during the meeting in Rudy’s hospital room during chapter 1, so it’s already a thought in her head.

Hey just wondering maybe you could make a deltarune playlist with all your deltarune content since it is a bit hard to find between all the animal crossing and super smash brothers content

My theory: the church is a red herring. We start chapter 4 in the church for a service of some sort, and Rudy ends up having a health issue there, and going back, and the dark world is formed there instead

I always thought Grillby'sans (Sans' general store) would be a very fun food-themed dark world, but it would be hard to fit that in because the only open spot is chapter 5, but then you would miss... wait, asgore could have unknowingly gone into the general store when it was a dark world, and toriel wouldn't be there because she doesn't want to be roped into any more dark world shenanigans. And the setup would be the same as the flower shop one, but asgore isn't home, the flowers are missing, and instead you have to go to the general store. Maybe the hospital stuff could all happen in chapter 6, and I think that would make more sense than the festival because there probably wouldn't be a building.

I feel like the Festival would be an extremely fun scenario, considering all the Secret Bosses so far, have backdrops that would show up… in a festival! Jevil -> Carousell Spamton -> Roller Coaster So, it would be cool to see the previous secret bosses referenced too!!

I am gonna say: Climatic End, Dark World Everywhere. Envelope the whole town. With a decent ammount accessible, not all of it of course. Final chance to stop the roaring.

My guesses are From chapter 4 onwards The hospital Ice-s The weird basement thingy that has gaster noises And the whole town in chapter 7, with the roaring happening there aswell

It’d be interesting if Toby were to surprise us with an additional 3 chapters after the release of ch7 as a free update and parallel to Deltarune’s initial free release. Dark world wise, I feel like the Festival will be a normal light world sequence as it’d be nice to see our main cast being able to relax after all that happened in the game. And call me crazy but I feel like the town hall is going to be a dark world because of Noelle’s inherit character development as of ch2. Also love the editing, keep it up!

@emanuel585

9 ай бұрын

Yes i also think that exept the first part lets be hones Toby whoul give us 2,5 chapters

I'll be mad if ice-e's p'e'zza isn't a location. food is a method of escape for many people. also i just want to see the insanity that toby would cook up

I believe that chapter 5 will play out in either Ice-E’s or the police station and I’ll explain why, toriel called undyne at the end of chapter 2 to report her car tires being slashed, so I believed undyne will be busy with that the next morning in chapter 4 once we head to church, after chapter 4 toriel will be asked to go to the station along side asgore who will be the main suspect in undynes investigation! This is where my theory splits, cause we will either head to the police office with toriel or be sent to ice-E’s pizza with some money given to us by toriel while she deals with the matter. Ice-E’s I believe is MORE likely to be the dark world cause of the large number of characters involved and having a food theme seems a lot easier to pull off them a prison/ crime investigation theme, but toby is a great game dev so I’m sure he could do either!

I personally believe that the reason chapter 6 and 7 are being sold together is they are the same like end of chapter 6 is the beginning of 7 probably when the roaring happens because probably the mayor the knight the fluffy femboy the gaster or gaster wannabee or the person in the code

I kinda strongly feel that toriel's classroom might be used as a darkworld location, while some might argue that it would be too similar to the abandoned classroom, i still believe that there must be something important to happen in there. if not a dark world, there certainly will be some major event in that room happening

i was really expecting the library to be a candidate, its the perfect opportunity, i really think toby is going into dark worlds that are more "open" that the first one on the theme, and it makes sense, not only he has to make a world about them, the characters and enemies have to be related, the church may have some good options but its to shallow, unless he adds something like the angel story, but seeing that the themes have been, table and card games, the internet, and now tv, its seems that the library fits perfectly, just imagine a dark world based on storys and novels, it fits right in.

The flower one is probably the one that will be chapter 3, since in chapter 2 its closed, but hey, its just a theory, A GAME THEO-

* I'm an avid Knight-Papyrus believer, and firmly believe Chapter 5 will be the ICE-E building. It has the Sans and Papyrus connection, the tinted doors for a "does it look darker in there than normal?", Pizzapants has textbox face sprites implying he'll be important (as do Bratty and Catty, who are our closest ties to him), ICE-E's been being built up a lot already so far, I feel like it all comes together. * However, I also want to throw out the option of the freezer in Sans' store being a dark world, purely because I think the most Toby joke ever would be Sans going "huh, how'd that get there?" to an EXTREMELY visible dark world through the glass doors.

@qwertykins76

9 ай бұрын

I want to agree but my only hang up is that the pizzaria just isn't big enough, and doesn't have enough stuff in it. It's tiny, just a pair of tables really. I feel like if this was gonna be a Dark World Toby would have put an arcade machine in there or SOMETHING. Ice-E is up to something tho

@duce.2805

9 ай бұрын

Can't chapter 5's dark world just take place in sans and papyrus house I know it hasn't had any relevance but I wouldn't rule it out entirely?

My money is in one of the comming chapters we will get more than one dark fountain being opened per chapter, it gives more of a sence of escalation to the chance of the Roaring happening, like we can still get big dark worlds like what we have gotten already but we also get smaller ones that can be completed quickly. As for an area that might become a dark world, my money is on Susie's home, we have seen what mundane areas like a computer lab and a storage room for toy can become, but what about a not so great home? Possibly either a baren area because Susie doesn't have anything to transform or possibly some darker stuff if her home life is worse than what we thought, etc. Also something that was hinted at near the end of chapter 2 is that its possible to open another dark fountain inside a dark world, would that create a new darkworld and of so what would it be like?

@spacenaves

6 ай бұрын

When exactly was opening a fountain inside an existing dark world mentioned? Not doubting you, just wanna see what I missed.

@samvanroon5041

6 ай бұрын

@@spacenaves right near the end of chapter 2 Berdly was essentially charging up and about to try and make another fountain before Ralsei explains why thats a bad idea, Queen also originally planned to have Noelle make a fountain by stabbing the ground with her pin. It takes place just after the giant boss fight with Queen.

This may sound like wishful thinking, but I’ve seen a comic about papyrus’s room becoming a dark world and I’d love to see a dark world papyrus. Obviously it doesn’t follow the double door rule but due to the fact that meeting him in deltarune has been pretty much hyped up by the community, I can see kris’ visit to papyrus being at least somewhat prominent to the story

@ghifariasoka8272

8 ай бұрын

Pls link the comic, I wanna read it since I believe that could be a Chapter 5 dark world

I'm pretty sure about a dark world in the graveyard for chapter 5, the Knight's chapter as we would meet a revived gerson (probably the knight) since there's a tombstone with his "hammer of justice" with his dust spread out on it (Just like flowey). We could also get an omega ice e bossfight because noelle and kris buried that ice e box that smiled at her there.

I think the final chapter could contain the hospital because on the snowgrave route, a beat on that toy is destroyed because berdly is dead and through the other chapters there will probably be more such routes with more beads breaking and in the dark world the toy could act as a judge like sans in undertale. And different deaths could impact the ending and the roaring after

My personal theory on where every soul mode will be used Chapter 3 - Integrity Hear me out with this one Value network’s Twilight zone theory predicts that the chapter 3 SB will be a sad ballerina (which i’m predicting to be a peppermint pillow somewhere gifted by the mayor to toriel) which has VEEEERY strong links to the human with the blue soul who WAS a ballerina Chapter 4 - Kindness DELTARUNE REIMAGINED HELEL REAL EAL REAL REAL REAL On a serious note though i feel as if the SB is gonna be Gerson’s gravestone and Gerson was a kind person towards his students so i see no reason to not make it that Chapter 5 - Perserverance (sorry if i spelt this wrong

there's evidence suggesting there will be at least 11 chapters in total so far, including a chapter 0 it was mentioned in a video by halfbreadchaos that in the game's files there are individually made sprites for chapters 0-10 including a (i think) currently unused one fora chapter 1 perhaps these potential 3 following chapters could be about the roaring if that does end up happening

Deltarune fans when you disagree with their chapter predictions: "There's a dark world in your mailbox."

I think the hospital may be a cliffhanger for chapter five

I Think Noelle's house is a possibility. Maybe something like Rudy spending his last few days with his family? Could also be good snowgrave material, like her assertiveness has gone so far she's become some sort of queen of ice in a frozen mansion type deal.

That's a pretty random guess but we might get a dark world inside the town hall... although this doesn't really have much in the terms of variety One really interesting one would be sans and papyrus's house though

Something I just realized is, there are seven chapters, that is the same amount as the seven souls in undertale. My hypothesis is that, every dark world revolves around to the personality of each soul. Which means is that, the environment matches the personality, the personality of other characters matches the souls personality. This theory goes to the same for the 7 flowers at Asgore's flower shop.

I think that chapter 7 will mostly be in the bunker, where the Roaring Knight lives and as his final boss, it'll take place in the Light World but covered in darkness.