Predator 2 Lore - Deleted Scenes You Never Saw - What Happened to Peter Keyes Body - Stephen Hopkins
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The Director of Predator 2 Stephen Hopkins goes on a video interview about his involvement with the film. How it changed during many draft revisions, deleted scenes that were film, cancelled ideas, his experience working in Los Angeles during the 1990's, What happened to Peter Keyes' body, How the MPA got involved, The Story behind the Alien Skull, Alternate Ending, The Story of Jerry Lambert and more topics. What happened to Dutch? The answers to many questions.
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*I sure would've liked to see the uncut version of the film.* 🧐 Alien Space Jockey Origins kzread.info/dash/bejne/X2FsusSOdZa9hNI.html
@Chuck2076
3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a prequel to the first movie that deals with Hopper, or a sequel to 2 with Harrigan meeting Garber again, and encountering another predator
3 жыл бұрын
4r44
@HebrewHakaishin
3 жыл бұрын
Predator 1 is the original but it's not as gory as predator 2. So they are both needed to tell the predators story
@damienkellem8619
3 жыл бұрын
To my understanding a movie can get a X rating for violence if it is extreme enough. Cobra (1986) was supposed to but was edited heavily. That’s why their is continuation issues, but still turned out good. Raw scenes of butchering was the reason.
@PrinceRawD
2 жыл бұрын
I want a Backstory on Greyback
We want PREDATOR 2 SPECIAL EDITION, Director's cut or whatever ...with as much added footage as they can get their hands on.. We need it :)
@evanabbott2737
3 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS👍
@myasmith7922
3 жыл бұрын
Yes we need it
@dizzyfahy682
3 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah
@rudedude1686
3 жыл бұрын
I mean, don't they realize the amount of money they're missing out on? :) What would you rather spend your money on? P2 DC edition in 4K or on Transformers 12?
@samfisher2306
3 жыл бұрын
Bought it on Blu Ray like two weeks ago. I haven't watched it yet. Looking forward it it
I love Predator 2 and think it is a fantastic sequel. I would buy the directors / extended cut instantly if they released it.
@wavy6332
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@raygunn4392
3 жыл бұрын
Agree💯
@MrSavageRain
3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@j0k3r313
3 жыл бұрын
Same no hesitation. I love it. Everyone I know thinks it sucks but I love it
@samfisher2306
2 жыл бұрын
100%!
Studios execs thought the Alien skull wouldn't fit in the movie? I was in the theater for Predator 2. The audience lost their minds. They cheered when they saw it.
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the way I see it. Is sometimes we get films based on a few board members that decide what "they like" when it might not be what the majority of the fans want to see.
@Tellingthetruthaboutpolice
3 жыл бұрын
Yesss even as a child we lost our mind me and my brothers when we saw it with dad.
@evanabbott2737
3 жыл бұрын
That must have been so cool to see that in the theatre...😁
@josephmassaro
3 жыл бұрын
@@evanabbott2737 Also saw Predator and Robocop...carding for age was very lax in my town.
@Tellingthetruthaboutpolice
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a 94 baby so I Remeber seeing these in Toronto on SciFi movie channel. Would have been badass to witness in theatres, but 94 Is the year for me. They say the red xenos are extinct. I think not 😉
It's amazing how this movie was so limited by censorship and still managed to be great, while modern movies have so much gore, and still manage to be bad.
@erikswanson224
2 жыл бұрын
The gore becomes the story. No need for character development, or plot lines.
@alexkoronec4326
2 жыл бұрын
This was supposed to be 2 hours and 5 minutes. The censorship was brutal and cut almost 40 minutes
PREDATOR 2 is one of the most underrated movies & sequels of all time!!!! I grew up watching & loving both Predator films but i actually like Predator 2 best
Dutch is the most Missed Opportunity character of all time, in my opinion.
@CoolGobyFish
3 жыл бұрын
No, I am glad they moved past Arnold. The predator is the star
@markgarcia72
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with this sentiment. The character of Dutch and even his team would have been a great concept for prequels although with nothing to do with predator.
@artkarounos816
3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@ogeidnomar4601
2 жыл бұрын
Yes a prequel or 2 would have been interesting. Like you said no Predator.
@Thefoxygamer1
2 жыл бұрын
They actually gave him more of a backstory with the release of the Dutch tapes in the new Predator game that's considered canon.
predator 2 is one if my favorite movies, i didnt know about these scenes
so much rich lore and content in comics and games that is wasted when hollywood makes a predator movie. more often than not they cut the parts that would have made it good.
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's kinda weird when the studio gets in the way and says "we don't like that.. don't do this.. just do what we want".. Like.. just let the writer, producer, art team and director do what they need to do. Creative freedom is how a movie can get better.
Man every time I see a video like this I want to watch predator 1&2 again.
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
😆
Very underrated sequel, it's sadly not praised enough.
One of the greatest 'sequels' in film history - up there with Aliens, Terminator 2 and The Empire Strikes Back! \m/
I kinda wish that the Jungle Hunter survived the first movie, I would have loved another movie with him
Yeah, always wondered why Keyes' torso doesn't fall to the floor when he's bisected by the smart disc 🤔
Acid Glow: "Which would you have liked to see?" Me, talking like Arnold: "All."
I would *LOVE* to see a remastered and unrated cut.
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see it all
if you watch the whole saga of predator movies.. the honour code is absolutely well represented. in the first movie, jungle hunter kills every member of the human military group , from the weakest to the strongest member, and kill the ones that use fire weapons as a primary weapon, without honor ( in cold blood and plus camouflage). at the same time, yautjas doesnt kill children , old people, or woman..in the first movie jungle hunter never attacks the girl, in the second he doesnt kill leona ( she was pregnant), and in "the predator", fugitive and the female biologyst had an encounter..she was naked and unarmed, and the beast literally ignored. also, city hunter, in predator 2, kills an entire squad of gangsters that practice dark magic ( vodoo), and aberrations with females.
@warriorsfs
2 жыл бұрын
Actually that's incorrect. Yautjas absolutely do kill armed women. Go back and watch Predator 2, the slaughter in the subway train. Remeber that old lady with a gun? When the predator is shown killing the armed passengers in his vision, there is a close up of the old lady's face with the predators hands grabbing her. Also in the comics and the novel. Predators are shown killing women that are armed. In the Batman vs Predator comic series 1 the predator that Bruce Wayne fights kills a female detective working with Commissioner Gordon.
The opening scene to predator 2 is one of the best 😉😉😝
When I watched Predator 2 I didn't enjoy it until the end. I need to rewatch it to find out why I didn't have a good time.
would like a predator vs engineer movie
I would love to see the back story of all of the other predators from predator 2 because it be awesome.
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
I did a video covering them. But the information about each one is very limited.
@ookbarslounge4708
3 жыл бұрын
It’s the la lakers.
@deeacosta2734
3 жыл бұрын
They went on to win the NBA championship.
@evanabbott2737
3 жыл бұрын
Me too!🤔👍
@michaelbuick6995
3 жыл бұрын
There was a graphic novel short titled "Predator: 1718" showing the back story on how the clan leader came into possession of the flintlock pistol. It's well worth checking out.
I’m still hung up that the whole reason we were able to see this movie is cause the cast and crew were protected by crips in the 90s ♿️😂
I love that you’re doing more lore lately. And the longer videos 👍🏼
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! 😄
When Keys is killed, His blood didn't look right to me. It kinda resembled syrup.
@serendipityculture1679
2 жыл бұрын
It was from a beef cattle.
@wa-bu3ke
2 жыл бұрын
@@serendipityculture1679 no
loved it, thank you for the info. happy new year!
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
thanks
This is a well put together video. I definitely appreciate all the facts that the movie didn't mention. Crips protecting the set?! Please keep the videos rolling.
I just wanted Peter Keyes's death to have an extended scene, since they already filmed it 🍞
There is so much great movie potential in the Predator and Alien lore, such a shame that studio interference or even the creator decided to screw it up. Glad we at least have some comic books and games that delve in to the possibilities.
They NEED to release the FULL version of this film, 4k dolby atmos.. Very underrated sequel.. 🤞
I like the idea of the Predator winning at the end of a film.
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Me too. Something different
Acid Glow this is some interesting facts i did not know about as a big fan of your channel and your content i learned something new that didn't know about predator 2 thanks man
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 🙂
I always wondered about Peter keys upper half. Would love to see the nc17 version.
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
would be nice as an unrated cut or something.
@DavidLopez-yt2yp
3 жыл бұрын
I have a theory when he saw the disk he held on the meat and his death grip held on to it so that would make since in my valued opinion
@COPSTATNYAR
3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLopez-yt2yp one thing tho. He was hold the frozen gun when he was sliced
@DavidLopez-yt2yp
3 жыл бұрын
@@COPSTATNYAR mmm good point maybe when he saw it coming at him he dropped it and raised his arms and screamed
@maxvilla5558
3 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm talking about💀
Awesome video as always.
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
thank you
I just love your videos keep up the good work
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being quick Donut. 🙏🙂
Wish an N-17 cut survived 😪 I like the story as it is, having a partnership with Dutch and Mike would've probably lead to one of them dying, which wouldve been disappointing. I mainly wanted to see the intended gore put back in, not for gore sake, but so scenes like Keys' death can make sense lol
@chelseagrinfan1
3 жыл бұрын
id love to see the predator rip out Jerry(Bill Paxton) spine out as Harrigan walks round the corner in the train tunnel but then again im a gore fiend xD
@aharris82
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, nowadays you got ultra violent movies being pumped out all the time, damn near snuff films, lol!
Big like on this , thank you for sharing and info enjoyed it!
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙂
Would there be an online petition to get a special uncut version of predator 2?
I would love to see the other version of the movie, maybe they could release it on a anniversary or something.
@LuizFrodo
3 жыл бұрын
Heheheh it would be impossible. But i liked the idea
@sandervanduijvenbode5541
3 жыл бұрын
They were actually planning to... but since Predator 2018 was such a fail they cancelled it. Thanks for that Shane Black.
@LuizFrodo
3 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanduijvenbode5541 didnt know about that, thanks
@LuizFrodo
3 жыл бұрын
@@sandervanduijvenbode5541 it is soo sad... I think that any of us could do a better story than the last movie
So we could of got Arnold, Danny Glover and Steven Seagal in Predator 2(a video you did before, said Seagal was nearly in it. I bet he was originally the Peter Keyes character).
I've always been curious if the predators would treat an injured or orphaned human the way wildlife rescue organizations would. Are there places were 'non-releasable' humans are held? Would some predators be dedicated to this over hunting? Would they raise an orohaned human like we'd raise orphaned wildlife?
@BTLAGS
3 жыл бұрын
Thats interesting concept something that needs to be looked at. But my feeling they would leave the sick humans to die and the injured ones probably would left to die or mercy killed by the predator. One feeling is they may take orphans and raise them like bulls or pit bulls. They would train them to fight and host gladiator games make them go against other humans then one of the humans won enough fights they would have them go against a predator. If the human killed the predator by chance he would live another day they treat and tend his wounds because everytime a human killed predator it only made him more desireable for a predator to kill. But if he died his head was collected as a trophy for hunter whether used the gladiator games a proving ground for new hunters before their dispatched into the universe to find bigger prey or just for sport of the predator species as entertainment. They treat humans as nothing more than a animal. They feed you, train you, and heal you only for a hunter to have your head as a trophy someday.
I love Predator 2.I watched it when it was still on videotape
Very helpful info!!!
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😁
Thanks bro
Seriously underrated movie..
Excellent video Carlos! would you perhaps do an individual video on each of the lost tribe predators In the future?
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
I did cover them all in 1 video before. Then I went and did I think.. 2 more individual videos that had more information to merit a video of their own. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qImlsI9ygpa1gsY.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZYqbyMlmmqfblLQ.html
@soulreaver1983
3 жыл бұрын
@@AcidGlow Cool I'll check out the link thanks! 👍
Predator 2 is so underrated however it does need a directors cut, the original predator 1 movie is a fantastic movie
In the shooting script there is a scene at the station with Leona and Jerry I would really like to see. If they actually shot it.. but I do think so. In an older script there was also a scene with the predator going into a taxidermist admiring all the big animals and the owner gets confused what's going on in his shop. I'd love to see a scene like this in one of the future movies. Maybe at a zoo or something.
I don't find Busey's explanation about the mission in the first movie convincing. If you watch the whole interview he's basically just making stuff up on the fly. Maybe that was his own head cannon when getting into character, but that's the limit of it, I think. When Dillon says he doesn't know why the green berets were there he was flat-out lying. He specifically says to Dutch later on that Hopper was there on his orders to get the CIA agents out, once he's confronted and drops the whole act. Keyes and the predator had nothing to do with it at all.
@magustobias8827
2 жыл бұрын
Literally paused the video and went scouring through the comments to see if anyone else picked up on that error. I was really confused why he didn't mention how it directly and explicitly contradicted the first movie's plot. Glad to know I wasn't alone in catching that.
Good video
I still cant get over the fact that yesterday (in 2024) and i'm almost 47 years old and seen Predator hundreds upon hundreds of times and i just now learned Blains death scene was so much more than what i thought. The skunk exploding, the spear, the stun etc...i always thought Blaine was just stunned by the Predator first before the full plasma going through his back
@wearywanderer1912
2 ай бұрын
Skunk exploding? What do you mean?
Good video 👍
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
Just the fullspeed disc throw with gore. I'd be happy with that.
I enjoyed the video
So Arnold was going to play Keyes’ role more or less but still be Dutch. Also, I’m calling BS that the studio ever PLANNED for an NC-17 movie. That’s box office suicide and I guarantee it never happened. I hope that we get a directors cut of P2 someday. A seriously underrated film.
"The Predator could show up in a different time period like the Old West. It could wind up on other planets. The possibilities are pretty limitless." And yet in almost all future Predator movies, it takes place in modern-day Earth. Predators taking place on a very Earth-like jungle world and not even going into the past until Prey.
@Thunderchild-gz4gc
3 ай бұрын
And that was weak
“Want some candy?”
I love you, Acid Glow.
Perfect😀.
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
Great video acid but am little curious to know if they were originally gonna plan a sequel continually predator 2
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fGV72dmtYci1cco.html
Cant wait to see your take on the new Godzilla vs Kong
Don't forget about the cut gore from when Bill Paxton was killed in the subway.
Very good 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
I wanted to see Mel Gibson roll up at the end in his Mad Max leathers and say, "Hey, Roj. I'm back from my vacation - what'd I miss?"
Keyes sending Jim Hopper really ties the two films together nicely and would not have been hard to put it in the film.
Interesting on knowing and isn’t sure or wonder if Batman vs the predator could’ve been a 3rd film somewhere
I loved Predator 2, it's my favourite of the four films I've seen. I haven't seen the prequel movie Prey yet.
Obligatory *wANt soMe CAnDy* comment here ~ only the old lore masters would understand the joke(!)
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
*Anytime* 💀
@tmontgomery9255
3 жыл бұрын
Hope the predators ship isn't a van now.
@thedoruk6324
3 жыл бұрын
@@tmontgomery9255 lol
@Sam-xr8ne
3 жыл бұрын
Mom I saw a ghost!!!!
@raygunn4392
3 жыл бұрын
Let’s dance!
I read the lore about the predator that went bac to the pirate time n how he got the pistol I wulda liked to see an animated or live action version to dat story To see the pirate n predator fight which ultimately leads to the pirates death n predator bein gifted the pistol by dying pirate wulda been cool
nice video
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
It would have been nice to see Arnold Schwarzenegger in this movie. As good as T2 was and my favorite of the Terminator franchise, Arnold would probably have had top billing or the end credits saying and Arnold Schwarzenegger as Dutch. Seeing the Alien head would eventually lead up to those movies of Alien vs Predator, so it was a nice subtle hint of what was to come in the distant future.
I really want to see a Predator movie with The Golden Angel aka Greyback, the comic with him is great.
Predator 2 is an EPIC film!!
It will be nice to have The Uncut Version vhs from the 70s & 80s And The Unrated Version From the 90s & 2000
Hoppers team were sent in by Dillon... he admits it after Dutch confronted him after the fight with the guerrillas
You should do a video of unmasked predators
I honestly feel as though the powers that be out there in the film world and more importantly the series world don't understand how loved Predator and everything that comes with it truly is !!. Can you imagine how F'ing amazing a properly well done Predators series would be. Based on there planet Yautja Prime or other planets that we don't know about and following them as they hunt not just on Earth but also on other worlds, and creating new Yautja's and Bad Bloods and other kinds of aliens from other planets that they hunt. Back it up with a proper back story showing them living on their home planet with all the different characters were all familiar with , Wolf ,Beserker the jungle predator etc. Key is that it has to be done as realisticly as possible not all CGI or crap acting story lines like in the last Predators film ' The Predator' directed by Shane Black which was an absolute let down. A full blown series done by a true Predator fan would be awesome and i genuinely believe it would be a huge smash also. !! Definetley needs to be looked into and someone needs to get the ball rolling on this !!
Concrete Jungle was the best predetor game ever made.
The pistol in predator 2 could have been returned to Harrigan maybe his ancestor was on the pirate ship the one from Guinea Coast, Africa. Out of respect he could have returned it due to him fighting along side Adolini but ultimately killed.
@azidihaqeem7882
Жыл бұрын
Great plot 🤔👍
I just realized the game had humans as IR but the walls and terrain were not lol
I doubt all these cut scenes survived after all this years and we will ever see them ...
Interesting..
Dutch isn't the only person to go through this before, Preds have been hunting humans for centuries.
So 10 minutes later and I still haven't seen the deleted scenes.
A movie with a plot to the concrete jungle game would be awesome
I think predator 2 would have been better if arnold was the main character
@soulreaver1983
3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree!👍
@madmanmark8387
3 жыл бұрын
My guess is he would have not been the main one but in a supportive role.
I've a friend who believes the second movie was made as a money maker. Totally weird and loses the beauty in expericnes by jumping to such conclusions. His reason is the comics came out after. Knows absolutely nothing about these movies, comics, lore, but seems to not be able to resist the urge to throw his opinion in. I have managed to collect xenos, predators, and sell on Ebay and keep what I love. Amazing experience and reward after many positive changes. So thank you for this I learned a lot. The actor in the second movie has visited my family roti shop in Toronto for a chicken roti. I love the second movie and the courageous young blood haha.
My idea for a Predator5 movie is as follows: It follows a group of Yatujas that travels through time on earth. Two separate spaceships with competing Yatujas for some kind of grand price,arrive in the stoneage,and when they have killed their victims they travels further through time. In the roman time they fights an germanic tribe. Then they travel to South America and fights a Peruian tribe.Then they travel to present time and there they gets harder resistance. And all of them gets killed exept one who goes into hiding in a secret base in the antartic. And that sets up the events for a sequel.
Predator2 is the 2'nd best movie I ever saw after Aliens...
I love the glow
Dutch reminds of an older Naked Snake aka Big Boss in those pics
Would like to see you do an analysis or breakdown of the Russian film Sputnik (2020), Russia answer to Alien. I think this film is right up your alley and is quite good like really good actually. You should check it out.
MOREEEE
I wish we got a backstory about all the different skulls, and where they came from, in the predator ship.
can we ever have that version? :(((
I would have like to know what happened to the character of Anna from the first film played by Elpidia Carrillo
@dcinhere
3 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert but you are led to believe her offspring fights them in the Predators movie from 2010 with Adrian Brody. I particularly liked this one and liked how it ended and was hoping for a direct sequel
Is there more details on the predator 2 set being protected by the crips ?
@AcidGlow
3 жыл бұрын
The 2 interviews that Stephen Hopkins did with people in the media in 2020 does not go further into this topic. That's all he says. Maybe it's for the best. In a way, it's kind of when you go to another country and you hire the local police to protect you from rebels or rogue soldiers in the mountains. I don't know anything more about this topic. It's the first 2 times i heard this come up but that's about it. I'm only going to guess - maybe there wasn't enough of the police force to spare during filming so they had to pick 1 side during these gang wars?
@Novasky2007
3 жыл бұрын
@@AcidGlow its more like when a bunch of guys with tommy guns walk into your restaurant and say sure would be a shame if anything happened to all this expensive equipment kapeesh.
I would have liked Keys to have been cut in half just make it a clean no entrails and it would have been fine. I also liked that Keys was the one to send in Harper's team, but it also clashes with Dillon making the order. Because Dillion admits at the end of the camp fight he sent in Harper's team to get Dillon's men back. Only once Harper's team failed to report in did they send in Dutch's team. Fun stuff either way.
@omegarugal9283
Жыл бұрын
that part wasnt neccesary, ir was explained in rhe first movie
_>protected by the crips_ What happened to LAPD?
Would love to see or know about predator training think it would help
I feel like the character of Mike Harrigan doesn't get much respect in the franchise. After the movie, he appears in one short story (DRUG WAR) and is mentionned in a novel (STALKING SHADOWS). I honestly believe he could be on a vendetta against the Yautja like Dutch is. Leona also survived an encounter with the Predator. She could have come back as well. I get the Dutch mystique, connected to the Arnold mystique and that has even been extended by creating Dutch's brother from the NYPD, but Harrigan and Dutch on the same team, hunting Yautja, could have had some potential