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@rajeshbridgelal8105

3 жыл бұрын

Im from the caribbean and i do enjoy all your vids ! Can you do a test on a sony xm gs4 hi res amplifier?

@Vinyl709

3 жыл бұрын

Hey can you do a review on the power acoustik lt1920-2 amplifier ?

@Gorilla_Glue848

3 жыл бұрын

Audiobahn??

@clintrichardson8236

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vinyl709 LT?

@Vinyl709

3 жыл бұрын

Clint Richardson yes power acoustik LT1920-2 subwoofer amplifier

I enjoyed watching this episode! It breaks my heart to see the PPI brand, polar opposite of its original glory.

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@thecman26

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah at least the newer Orions get close to their rated power. This is just sad!

@biffisgreat

3 жыл бұрын

Sucks so hard, still got a 2150 on my shelf

@andrewland843

3 жыл бұрын

@@thecman26 new Orion's exceed rated

@smellsuperb1

3 жыл бұрын

None of the new SPL series are any good. Sad to say the least.

Sad to see these brands that we all loved in the 1990s turn to bunk.

@erik120719

3 жыл бұрын

The black ice series is decent, $250 for a solid 3k. .5 ohm load for last two years ( 1 year with my truck, the last year in my buddies truck with same subs).

@bcamcam2

3 жыл бұрын

It has a lot to do with companies buying the old companies and trying to bank on the name and not actually keep them the way we remember them..

@BobbyDeniroX

3 жыл бұрын

They all doing a Mercedes job. Lowering the levels but selling it on the badge.

@MLProductions.1

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyDeniroX Mercedes is still bad ass have you driven a newer E class? It's absolutely stunning inside. Their expensive to maintain and don't last 500k miles how they used to but they do still make the best of the best interiors and experience

Never forget that Alma Gates Bronco! PPI old school at its finest!

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah!

@MuvoTX

3 жыл бұрын

Yep... Tommy clarks rocket science van comes to mind too.

@meseone920

3 жыл бұрын

I had the chance to experience that truck/setup in person and to talk with Alma directly at a car show in fall of 99 or 2000 when I went as a business trip. I used to have a lot of that car show on HI8 Sony tapes but have since lost them even thou the memories remain. Had a art series A404 and A600 mounted on my bedroom wall as I only used them a few times to show the power and then treated them like a trophy or the art they were. Had a life event come up that required I sell them in the mid 2000’s and to this day I kick myself. Sad to see PPI in this state of business and great content as usual!

@Van1018s

3 жыл бұрын

64 flat position 10’s. Saw it at the IASCA world finals in Dallas. I placed 6th in the pro 301-600 class. My third year in row of missing top 5.. so that was disappointing. Pretty sure Alma won the spl that year. 168.something if I remember correctly. Which I probably don’t. Lol.

@haroldpalmsesq2506

2 жыл бұрын

Alma was cool. I got her autograph at CES.

I emailed Carolyn Hall Young in 2010. She was great to talk to about her art and her history in the industry. CHY reached out to me when I was in Iraq. She emailed me regularly to check up on me. She was great as a friend. She helped me through a very hard time in my life. 🙏 rip

that's a damn shame because precision power was one of The originators back in the day. they have an opportunity to step into the new market and make a comeback

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

👌😬👍

@anonymousinc6330

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody wants to make a comeback anymore. They're content to cut corners building and selling junk that lasts maybe 1-2 years to increase profits, because most are stupid enough to buy it again.

@robrobroberto

3 жыл бұрын

All of the top fog engineers for poi now work for JL audio

@trollslayer8260

3 жыл бұрын

Ppi still has good stuff you just have to know what you are getting. They lie about the ratings so look at the fuse then put another 0 on that #, and it will be within 20% give or take , mostly take. For the money they sound good and ive had tbe black ice 7000 for over 3 years and it still works perfect.

It's a shame that most of the legendary audio equipment names from back in the day can no longer be trusted.

@samueljackson2478

2 жыл бұрын

Except Orion

@cooliecrewspeedshop

2 жыл бұрын

It’s because they were trusted at one point and took advantage

Like almost all companies that change hands, they're just cashing in on a name that's long been gone by producing bottom shelf trash.

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

Yep 👍

@firebirdude2

3 жыл бұрын

Just like MB Quart, Hifonics, and Phoenix Gold.

@cpufrost

3 жыл бұрын

Even the white vans have been forced to go to online sales due to CV! And I'm not talking about Cerwin Vega! :P

@azmike1956

3 жыл бұрын

Watch out for Romney car audio products!

@shoof1696

3 жыл бұрын

isnt aamp a good company or did they make phoenix gold crappy

Epsilon is the parent company to Soundstream, Power Acoustic and yes, PPI. They have essentially gutted these legacy brands to cash in entirely on their names and history. How proud could they be of a PPI amp series they won't even list on the company website??? I collect and use old school PPI. The junk they currently sell is NOT even remotely PPI. It's flea market garbage! They *had* decent series' in the Phantoms and the Ion amps. Both are now discontinued. Same with Soundstream. The same thing has happened with the Maxxsonics owned MB Quart, Hifonics and Autotek amps. The idiots at Epsilon who have done this to these formally great brands should have their asses kicked! Everyone, please make this video go viral. Spread the word about what Epsilon has done. Damn, I'm pissed!

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

Well said

@JosephArata

3 жыл бұрын

Just about the only good thing from PPI/Soundstream is their subwoofers if you stick them in the right size box. Of course those are made in China too like everything else, but at least they won't vaporize as soon as you introduce a small amount of clipping like other even cheaper brands.

@fueledgaragetv1212

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exectly! I grew up with these brands in the 80s and 90s and worked at Directed when they owned PPI for a minute. I lived and breathed PPI when I sold and installed it at the shop I worked at in Poway, CA. Epsilon bought these brands for the brand equity which quickly runs out as soon as the customers figure out its a lie.

@johnshapard4831

2 жыл бұрын

Epsilon ran those names directly into the pooper. I can’t believe people still buy this junk. I guess if you don’t you don’t know.Thanks Big D!

@MassBoost

Ай бұрын

@@fueledgaragetv1212 DEI didn't do PPI any favors exactly, and by then the Issas hald already sold their shares of DEI to Trivest, so they were already on a path downhill.

Unfortunately there is several old school quality brands that have gone to this method of selling. 😪 Saddening to see PPI is one of them.

@ericteasley5603

3 жыл бұрын

Very sad

Big D, you missed about 10 strands of power wire at the terminal! Surely those extra 10 strands would’ve got the amp those 5,000 watts! Lol

Big D! I've been watching your 12volt talk channel and noticed you said making these videos can be monotonous. Love the video's and appreciate what you do! Keep it up!

ppi was amazing back in the early mid 90s.....this was like watching a 2020 remake of old yeller....you the man big d

I remember ppi being top dawg back in 96+ or so

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

👌😬👍

@nevermindme8922

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the guy who designed ppi amps back then does it for jl now.

@chuckmiller5763

3 жыл бұрын

@@nevermindme8922 Same guy who designed Orion back then. He dont work for JL.

@danielmiller4492

3 жыл бұрын

I always buy rockford power series when I do have to buy and amplifier. I've always been happy. Never needed to stray from fosgate.

@MassBoost

Ай бұрын

@@chuckmiller5763 Bruce Macmillan, Don Ciarduloo, Sam Zamora and others all fled from PPI to JL with Jeff Scoon (former CEO at PPI). In fact Jeff Scoon just retired from JL like 6 months ago after being there 23 years.

PPI was indeed such a great brand. Have several Art series packed away - thank God 🙏 . They were excellent sounding, and IMHO prolly the best looking amps ever. Thanks for the lowdown on the new shizz 👍😎👍

I love my crossfire c7 2k , research does wonders and having channels like this to let the consumer know !

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

Those are quality 👌

Damn, I STILL drool over those art amps! I will have one someday! See the problem here is that you're measuring the power output in standard watts. These amps are rated in metric watts. About 2.5X's standard watts!

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

👈😂

@treiber671988

3 жыл бұрын

I have a art series eq forsale if interested

You’re a car audio hero. Thanks for doing all these! Saves us a lot of aggravation!

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

👌😬👍

Hello Big D. I always follow your videos here in Brazil. I remember Alma Gates used Precision Power in his Ford Bronco against Mark Fukuda and won a championship. In my cars I use old Rockford Fosgate and V12 Alpine. Big hug and good work !!

I remember PPI being great gear in the mid 90s. They're probably owned by some shell company now that is obviously outsourcing everything to keep costs as low as possible. What a shame. Thanks for the vid Big D! Keep it real!

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

Epsilon Electronics is the parent company of several brands and many share parts/boards/components/etc

I was still in the business when PPI fell and was sold to DEI...went to the factory for a last tour just before the take over to buy the remaining amps. Glad I still use some of their old product, incredibly pleasurable sound quality out of the old dark grey series and art models.

Enjoy watching these videos you do, this helps us consumers a great deal. I remember when PPI was the top tier. Oh! how the mighty have fallen.. thanks is for doing these videos and keep up the great work. Hope one day these companies will be held responsible.

@JosephArata

3 жыл бұрын

One thing people seem to forget, the people who started these companies have long since sold their brand after making their millions years ago. The marketing companies that own these brands now are just using the brand notoriety to sucker people out of millions more money. That's the sad truth of the marketing industry.

Dude I have 4 OG surfboard PPIs with borderline perfect heatsinks from 20 years ago. 2x 2channel 1x 4channel and 1x 6channel they are beautiful. Sad to see this

Say it ain't so PPI. You said it, favorite amp brand from the 90's selling out, so sad... Also when is this false advertising gonna stop in the car audio industry. This is like buying a box of ziploc bags with a big number 50 on the box telling you that you get 50 bags in the box, but when you open it there's only 12 bags. False advertising is Illegal last time I checked.

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly why I make these vids. It’s unreal to me how this is allowed

@brianborell4469

3 жыл бұрын

Better check again. Only in certain states and only for specific things.

@scrapironfish

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianborell4469 Thanks for the legal info. Still sad and unacceptable though.

@scrapironfish

3 жыл бұрын

@@wal Can't thank you enough. Keep up the good work. Btw, have you ever hear of Nitro amps? A friend of mine gave me a Nitro BMWX-486 2 channel amp. Says 2000w on it. Not much info on the net about this manufacturer. What can you tell me?

Big D your videos are the reason I bought two Skar amplifiers.

I know I’m late to see this but it did hurt. PPI was a dream for me as a kid , did manage to get 2 10’s. But never the amp, and to see this was upsetting 😢. But thanks for doing the Dyno brother. 👍

PPI were the best sounding amps with great bass control.

I had some of their amps back in the day that were the metallic grey and they absolutely ROCKED! I had a sealed box with 3 JL W3’s that is still the best sounding sub setup that I’ve had. Too bad they went to $hit like HiFonics and others…

@Williston Audio Labs thanks for keeping it real for us the paying consumers! Sickens me knowing that they can legally just throw whatever watts on a product that they want to. Should be sued like Rockville is being rightfully done right now. Keep up the good work BigD!

Hey. I'm new here. Just getting back into car audio after a 20 year break. I'm gonna look for some vids on that lady's artwork line of amps. That's just so neat to me. Also, I wonder how much money you've saved the general public by making these videos, letting people know what to avoid and what are the hidden gems. Surely its in the hundreds of thousands of dollars not wasted on purchases with which people wouldn't be happy. What a great, tangible thing to do for the world.

After the Precision Power PCX series they dropped dramatically to junk. Thanks for this video

Thanks for these videos man. Really let's the consumer know whether they are getting shit or not!

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

This one shocked me. I had no idea it would do that much power at 1 ohm and that efficiency 😳

Can you do a review of the mr music man 2500.1D .. love the great work keep the videos coming much love from Canada

Hey Big D, I have 3 ol' skool Orion amps, XTR 250, XTR 450 and 225 HCCA, all 3 are done in the chrome finish. I know, not that unusual...except that they all feature 'Specially Designed For Robby Brand' engraving, directly below the brand name and amp model on the central cover plate. Just wondering if you've come across these particular amps before as I can't find anything online about them. Keep up the killer content! Cheers Rob

Yup. Back in the day I had a PPI driving MTX Thunder 12” and a Rockford Fosgate Punch 150 driving a 15”

These amps make me love Rockford Fosgate amplifier tests that much more 💪

Thanks for another video. I would like to see the taraamp hd3000 tested as I had just bought one

That's why I have one of the old School amp ppi it works flawless

Same here BigD, my first amp ever was a PPI and the nostalgia is strong with the brand but it breaks my heart to see the name and reputation whored out for a pennies.

Such a fall from grace I had an Art Series A600.2 and a the 5 channel from the PCX series. Absolutely loved them.

My first real purchase for a system was 1000 watt Precision Power amplifier and 3 10 inch Precision Power Subs in a custom box and man that thing did bang, this was back in 2008

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

Awesomely 👏

@Mr.Robert1

3 жыл бұрын

Don't worry Jon, I'm sure the better models that they are selling on the website are ten times better as you can see they look completely different check them out. If we're going to tell the truth let's put it all out there not take the model that doesn't look anything like the ones they're selling on the internet and Bash it don't destroy the entire company for something that could be counterfeit it is Chinese that's what they do.😷

I had a 4200AM and a pair of chrome PC2600's. The 2600's ran a pair of 12 Solobarics in 4 ohm bridge mode. Effortlessly.

Great videos 👍!!!

PPI should be *A S H A M E D OF THEMSELVES*

@ASSOpid

3 жыл бұрын

You're right .....too bad PPI isn't even the same company that it used to be. No longer a US company.

Had a 1997 PPI Power Class 450 I bought used for a hundo back in 2002. It was THE BEST sounding amp I've owned (and I've owned alot of amps). Awesome crossovers, descent power and in mint condition. Kinda wish I'd have kept it.

I Still have my Orion Digital Reference 250SX. I was going sell it and buy something more modern, but after watching this now I think I’m going to keep it.

What headunit are you using for the dyno tests? have you tried different headunits side by side with the same amp to see if measured watts change?

Well, guess I should just appreciate having just paid the equivalent of only $60 for a brand new Trax 4.1200D, then 🤔 Sooo... please do a Trax test 😏😂 I'll survive. It'll still be an upgrade, power-wise. Thanks for another great video - really appreciate the no BS attitude 👍🏻

I read your review on Amazon for this amp, You are absolutly correct, but all OEM seemed to have gone down hill. There were times when Phoenix Gold, Soundstream, PPI were the shit. now its just sad.. But on your review, you said it was for ESL market, that had me cracking up. These Car Audio market seems to have gone down hill. BTW, i heard PPI 30has a car running a 40VDC electrical system.. That how they get those crazy rating.

I used to sell poi in the mid 90s. This is sad. Reminds me of Lanzar. Thanks for doing these vids

What up big D. Thanks for the truth 👍

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

Keepin it real 👌

This just makes me lean more towards Rockford Fosgate even more. At least they still make under rated amps.

I have two of those ‘art work’ amps in my garage that came in an old truck I bought that was built in the early 2000s

Hello, Big D! Could you please test the JBL 14001? If you don't find it, you could also look for the 7001 or 24001. They are all from the same amp series. These ones seem to be worth your dyno time.

Thank you so much for testing this amp. I have it in my honda pushing 2 12s

@foley6939

3 жыл бұрын

My condolences. Wal Marts running a sale on shovels this weekend if you wanna wanna do something.

Hell, that would be a perfect amp for my JL 12w3 4 Ohm

Very nice good test 👌 👍 👏

This channel is a treasure

@wayneslain9444

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I like watching big d on the TV when I'm relaxing winding down

I hope you can test the Zapco ST-1B. It seems like it's very modestly rated and it sounds amazing. Plus it's pretty cheap.

You grew up! Your voice changed! I have two PPI:s ; pc225 and pc250 from the 90's!

That’s why I went with rockford Fosgate 2500-bdcp and a rockford Fosgate 600-4. Cost me a arm and a leg but I know it’s quality. 👍

Do you have any plans on testing PPI's new Power Class (PC) line? Mostly, the PC1000.5D? Are you willing to test amps that viewers are willing to send in?

Good morning... I love watching your videos.... I have an old Alpine mrd 1000 I want to get fixed, do you have any idea where I can send it to to have it repaired

I just had an epiphany remembering back in the days when I try to start flying car audio and it was really expensive they get anything with power. Although we know the ripping off the consumer I think it gives these kids with low budgets something to brag about so they don't feel inadequate about their car audio😒. The manufacturers will continue to put these out as long as there's dummies willing to buy them, no pun intended 😂👍 I'm just surprised it took me this long to figure that out Thanks Big D 😊👋

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

Have you seen the new vertical PPI power class amps? Wow 🤩

This is so sad as an old school bass head. This is why people don't take me seriously when I tell them I have Precision Power amps. Then they hear my setup and are pretty impressed. I tell them my amps are 20+ years old they don't believe me lol. I look forward to your next video! Thanks!

What subwoofer do you think is the best DD Audio. 9900 15” are the sundown zv5 15” and the amplifier m5 DD audio or the sundown salt 8 plus what do you think about putting 4- 15” DD Audio 9900 on that salt 8 amp

I have their 1/2 din parametric equalizer with the voltmeter readout. Hasn't been bad.

Is this a true PPI or a unauthorized copy? I have a PPI from the late 80s and a Sedona from the early 90's. Both still sound great.

On a sealed box for 2 or more subs , should each sub be isolated or not ? Haven't found any info on that

700th automatic like from this guy right here! 😎👊

Hi, I'm from Mexico, I liked the video of the presicion power spl amplifier, what opinion do you give me about the precision power Trax 1500.1 amplifier. I would appreciate your opinion, thank you

I have 3 art series. Ever since Epsilon bought the name, they ain't been the same. One of the black ice did decent, and the ion use to do rated though I believe.

Good vid thx!

Nice review Big D. That's a nice $50 amp tho. Bahaha not nice for $199. I got my orion xtr 2500 for $250 on sale so yeah I'm good Bahaha

I still have a old school ppi chrome pc2600. Want to get it tested to see if still runs right.

Well that was heartbreaking. Watched the vid in my garage with two original Art series amps sitting under my tv. An A300 an an A404.

It would be really interesting to see a couple strapped together

PPI quality less than Rockville? What??Love this channel though, BigD is the G.O.A.T. Keep it up!

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

BDOAT 👈😝

Miss my old 3 ppi sedona amps in a 87 Mitsubishi montero.

Can you make a video comparing the audio quality of taramp and corzus on 3k amplifiers? because here in Puerto rico they say that the corzus sounds cleaner than taramp in Voceteo (midbass)

I loved the old Amplifiers...

Hey Big D. I have a PPi art series a404 that needs some repairs. Any suggestions on where I should send it? Thanks

i wished you could find those small 500.1 BLADE amp and test it

Sucks ppi has gone down the drain, thanks for the video big D. Would love to see you test the wolfram 4 channels

The orion 5k i use has a 500amp internal fuse so I'm assuming this would need the same

I have a Chrome Rockford Fosgate 1999 ($1k I saved to pay for senior year) Transnova Power Series Punch 500A2. Have you previously done a model similar to other than the 800.2 seen previous on your channel? Hard to get the real story on why the chrome model is more sought after/valued then and now. Can anyone elaborate on some more details? Currently running on my sons P3D2-12 and Tom up fitting to 2 of the new DD Audio 1100 series SQL 12s in a sealed enclosure. I’m definitely more pumped than my clueless son to see what she will do bridged and turned up finally. LOVE the channelS D!

Couldn’t even finish the whole video

Crazy part is that at the height of the audio spl competition era (1996 - 2001) this would have been one of the baddest amps on the market! We are spoiled now with class D. Class AB FTW!!

I need some help regarding amps and subs. If I have 2 Kicker CompQ 12's 2 ohms in a ported enclosure being pushed by a kicker 1800.1 amp via a Pioneer AVH W5400 head unit....amp gain at 3/4 with base knob 1/4 turned up. Should I not be able to turn this radio up with no worry of blowing the sub??? I'm not pushing the full RMS wattage to the sub so I'm just trying to make sure I don't blow these subs.

I bought the SoundStream TN1.1200D for $100 on Amazon. It's puts out 1280 watts @ 1ohm on the bench test.

My Guess gave PP to much credit I spose...sahhhlap! But as usual got more than my $1 worth!! Thanks D!

What amp will be good for 3 Rockford Fosgate 12 inch R2D4 in a ported box?

Hi sir when will you be testing some powerbass amps they quite big here in south africa. Would like to see if they really good.

Big D can you test the nemesis NA-k1500D next please

I have a Fosgate power 1000a2 from the 90s. Although it has the bass boost knob, I don't think it is a class d. Does that mean it wasn't really designed for bass? It's a 250x2 and the paperwork that came with it was somewhere at 1350 or 1650 ( unsure) bridged. The only other thing that I can remember about it is 24db Butterworth. ...?? Edit....never did figure out what the phase adjust was for. It didn't seem to change the sound much at all.

Back in the day, PPI Art Series were awesome, (I still have my two A-600s) they sounded great and cost around $1 per watt. It’s sad to see their legacy defiled by this shit.

If you ever get the chance, you should try the PPI Black Ice series 2600.1D, atleast that's on the PPI website.

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

👌😬👍

I would like you to see if you could scare up a ppi Sedona amp or a ancient crutchfield for that matter. That would be a cool old school test.

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah had a Crutchfield PPI amp but I sold it years ago

@bonzainews

3 жыл бұрын

@@wal at one point I had 3 4x50 and a 2x75 in my 1984 trans am. I loved those things. One 4x50 was bridged to run 2 bazooka 10"s. I lived those amps. I wish they still made quality a/b amps at today's prices.

Great Job Big D, ❤️ how you Keep it 💯. Your the consumers Champion and super Hero! If you can't help us Nobody Can. thank for keeping them honest.... Next up should be CADANCE & The new NAKAMICHI STUFF... I Also have some Sony HiRes Amps for you to test

@wal

3 жыл бұрын

I bought Nak 6 channel

@agonydaddy

3 жыл бұрын

@@wal awesome I can't wait I've been looking At it!