13:00 You're correct. When Necromantic Selection resolves, destroy all creatures, then you pick a creature card in the graveyard to bring back under your control. The option to move your commander to the command zone is a state-based action. SBA's are not checked during the resolution of a spell or ability. SBA's are checked after a spell or ability is done resolving, before players would get priority again. Because we don't check SBA's during the resolution of Necromantic Selection, players can't move their commanders to the command zone until after you choose which creature card to bring back. Sauce: I'm a Level 2 judge. Relevant entries in the Comprehensive Rules: 704.3. Whenever a player would get priority (see rule 117, "Timing and Priority"), the game checks for any of the listed conditions for state-based actions, then performs all applicable state-based actions simultaneously as a single event. 117.2e. Resolving spells and abilities may instruct players to make choices or take actions, or may allow players to activate mana abilities. Even if a player is doing so, no player has priority while a spell or ability is resolving. See rule 608, "Resolving Spells and Abilities." 903.9a. If a commander is in a graveyard or in exile and that object was put into that zone since the last time state-based actions were checked, its owner may put it into the command zone. This is a state-based action. See rule 704.

@Ray-ws6rk

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for condensing all that information for dumb people like myself!

@ashshopsmart8347

2 жыл бұрын

Such a great reply! Concise explaination with a reference. Thank you :)

@guyinthecorner0

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome explanation! Much appreciated

@FlowBerni

2 жыл бұрын

nice play sir

@rileypowell5354

2 жыл бұрын

Don't you have the option to move it to the command zone once it tries to go from the graveyard to the battlefield?

Love seeing love for Kenrith's. A couple of my friends thought it was a waste of removal slot until they had their commanders enchanted and couldn't pull a removal spell lol

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

It is insane! The fact that it draws a card makes it amazing!

@ninjasdrinkwatah3257

2 жыл бұрын

Love Kenrith's, use it in my Ayula deck and it always does work

@IrrelevantGeOff

2 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds 100% agreed! It feels SO good having a removal spell that replaces itself in your hand 🤩

@JustRightPinedo

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. And I always play it on the blue/black/red player's commander (they have far fewer ways to deal with it)

@Wojtek36762

2 жыл бұрын

I first used it in my Yarok deck, drawing two off it just feels like cheating 😂 now I use it anywhere with any enchantment synergy, and it would probably make a mono green deck if I built one.

From my reading, Necromantic Selection does indeed work the way you want. The Commander can only go back to the command zone as a state based action. SBAs can't be taken when a card is still resolving its effect, so it has to wait until Selection resolves to move. Edit: For Tergrid stans, this changes nothing. Her effect is a triggered ability, which means it happens either after or before(in the case of a cost being paid) the card or effect resolves but not during. So SBAs are checked in that time, meaning commanders can dodge the effect.

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Boooooom!!!

@julioroman3473

2 жыл бұрын

But you can put your commander into the command zone in response to Tergrids effect.

@felixhultman8410

2 жыл бұрын

@@julioroman3473 That's because Tergrid adds a triggered ability after whatever made you sacrifice your commander resolves. Before Tergrid resolves but after the creature dies you check SBA's.

@CKarasu13

2 жыл бұрын

@@julioroman3473 Tergrid's effect is a triggered ability. So SBAs are checked before her effect resolves, which means commanders can dodge her ability. It's in the Gatherer site. If it was a replacement effect then they might not be able to.

Love Budget Bomb episodes! I would love to see an episode where you guys break down how to make a powerful deck on a budget. I made a budget Vega, the Watcher deck the other week and my friends were suspicious that it was less than $50. And I was stressing to them how a disciplined building of removal and card draw and dedicated win conditions could make even a cheap deck really good. Would love to hear your thoughts on what mindset and parameters are vital to you when building budget.

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

That is interesting idea. Might be something we consider! Thanks!

This is the first time I actually bought the whole list through the link. After TCG optimization, cards + shipping came to $20. What a deal!

content idea: would love to hear how you guys organize your collections in order to facilitate easy brewing and deck tuning. Great stuff as always!

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

I like that idea

@charliemarlow647

2 жыл бұрын

Love this idea too! Would be good to also include any way you use to track your collection (e.g. a website/app).

@starmanda88

2 жыл бұрын

I would also love to see that. My mtg collection has taken over the house at this point and it’s driving me crazy. I don’t even know where to start.

@jefftowns6864

2 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds Hell yes! - I find searching my cards, getting distracted by other cards and the scope-creep and time-wasting, result in most of my deck ideas not being finished. I'm going to wind up "drafting" other decks on the way, or a friend comes over, or i just lose interest or run out of time... - Makes it hard to upgrade existing decks and it's super annoying to KNOW you have a card you need/want and it's basically lost in your own room :D - Plus making half-built decks (with no follow-thru) and random draft piles for same, just adds to the entropy of finding anything on purpose ever. life hacks about this sort of stuff i imagine would help a lot of people who own "too many" cards, or just want to make it easier to GSD the deck brewing.

[L1] You are correct with Necromantic Selection for the reason you mentioned. Love the content as always!

This is by far my favorite series you two do. Keep up the great work!

@bdmcdowell4

2 жыл бұрын

Also you're my favorite mtg channel by far

I just love the mh2 artifact lands, they inspired me to make a 5c land destruction deck :) Yeah, im one of those who will touch the lands :D

@JonReid01

2 жыл бұрын

I love artifact decks so I love those cards

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Those lands are great!!!

This was always my favorite series so super happy to see it!

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Love you Austin!

I love Changeling Outcast too but it's kinda funny how they were talking about how much better it is than Tormented Soul and then Beezy mentioned he's using it in a spirit tribal deck, i.e. the only tribal deck that doesn't care about the difference

The answer to Necromantic Selection: YES you can take commanders. When a commander dies, it hits the graveyard then state based actions (SBA) will let the owner move it to command zone. In this case, SBA are NOT checked while a spell is still resolving so you can take commanders!

@starmanda88

2 жыл бұрын

I just had this argument last night. I knew I was right but was unable to articulate why in an effective way. Thank you for making it simple.

Guys I really love that you guys are chatting up Heliod's Intervention cause I've been shouting this card out since it was prereleased. Great video hope you guys are doing well. KEEP STAYING PAWZITIVE

I appreciate the link to tcgplayer that takes me to the 'deck builder' and then let's me add all to cart without having to search them out individually. Extra cool. Almost like an early (really early) birthday gift. Please consider adding this to other "Top X" list videos

Thanks for this! Yes I agree, Commander is still super budget friendly.Plenty of good stuff in precons and cheap singles. Not to mention, if you're playing for fun, you can easily build original decks with all kinds of cards that aren't widely used. There's no reason why you can't play (and sometimes win) by only using commons or a cheaply upgraded precon!

Funny story about reconnaissance mission, I once thought I was buying a playset at 99p per card... turns out that each unit was for a playset so I ended up with 16 copies...

I've been stuck losing to lathril and krenko for months now, I finally upgraded my locust god deck, and I'm finally able to win consistently. Yesterday in separate games I got niv-mizzet parun and curiosity, ashnods and skullclamp, and even locust god sage of the falls and won with lab man!

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

You are a savage!

@EvanFarshadow

2 жыл бұрын

Just be wary of Rakdos charm. Making insects is not a may ability on locust god, and I've lost to Rakdos Charm more than any other card

@iamanork

2 жыл бұрын

Sage of the falls is really good!

@boloradoanthony6130

2 жыл бұрын

@@EvanFarshadow oh shit you're right, luckily I mainly play against mono green mono red and and dimir

I love your enthusiasm :) You are making my day better.

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!

Wanted to share my experience with kenriths transformation. The thing I see happen most often, is someone gets a commander with it, then the person just untaps and makes a deal to swing it into someone who will block it. Which just results in them recasting their commander the following turn. I know that's gonna vary a lot based on situation, and playgroup, but I thought it was worth mentioning, because it is a serious downside.

@ADudeWhoExperiences1393

2 жыл бұрын

You spend two mana to time walk them, I see no downside even in that scenario.

@ujai5271

2 жыл бұрын

Even if that is the outcome, it was a two mana removal spell that didn't cost you a card. And that is basically the floor. Still very good imo.

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

I have had my commander locked all game because people won’t make that deal as well.

@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299

2 жыл бұрын

If your not digging Kenrith Transformation there is always Lignify as back up :P

@olivermeloche2042

2 жыл бұрын

Two mana draw a card even at sorercy speed is pretty good, espically in green. Liginify is better at better at locking down commanders but if they have enchantment removal then kenriths transformation is on top because it cantripped

I love your budget bombs and brew ideas content.. and all the other content.. but these 2 specifically are real good :)

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

A friend of mine has a ninja deck that makes me absolutely fear changeling outcast, love to hear the love for it

Loved the episode, guys! Some of the best magic content on yt!

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

THank you for the kind words

Been wanting to know how tall Beezy was for ages - I'm 6'7" and feel you're representing the tall content creating community brilliantly. ;-) Thanks for all you guys do, you're ace.

Cool thing about agitator ant is the ability doesn't target. Once it starts resolving people get to find out where the counters go, so its hard to hold up damage based removal against it.

Curiosity absolutely kills if it ever gets attached to niv-mizzet parun, it becomes an infinite combo but also one you have control of when it ends, super good

As a user of midnight clock it's amazing recycle yard and hand mana rock as well

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Yes 🙌 I love it as well

I like that beezy mentioned his spirit tribal deck in regards to changling outcast, the one deck where tormented soul would be fine instead

I basically just clicked on this video to hear you two say "budget booommmmmbs" and you did NOT disappoint.

Once, I cast reckless endeavor, and I rolled a 1 and a 12. And I looked at my hand, and I realized, “damn, with twelve treasures, I could close out this game in a couple turns”. So, I pinged everything for 1, created 12 treasures, passed the turn, and I probably would’ve gotten uncontrollable on my next turn if someone had t overloaded vandleblast and destroyed all my treasures

You guys are awesome have easily became my favorite mtg content creators.

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, glad to hear it :D

Finally. Some love for midnight clock. One of my favorite cards from throne of eldraine

Fun fact about exotic orchard. If your opponents aren't play one of you colors but they also have an exotic orchard and you do you then you can tap for any of your colors because their orchard taps for you colors and so you can get your colors of the orchard

Another very good one is Kessig Cagebreaker. Much like Cathar Commando, it's great removal in creature matters decks, especially those who care about creatures dying like Meren. Oh, and another one is Liquimetal Torque: especially in green and red decks, where occasionally you'll be able to turn an opponent's thing in an artifact and blow it up with vandalblast or Kesaig Cagebreaker ;)

I kind of love that you shit on the spirit version of changeling outcast and then said the changeling was great in tribal decks like the spirit one you were building 😅

I haven't noticed that effect in Curiosity!!!! It will be amazing on my Aegar Giant Tribal deck that has a Niv Mizzet, the Firemind. Just give it to Niv and the first moment i draw a card i will deck myself out bringing 2 or 3 players with me

hell yeah great list, but was pumped to see Masked Vandal get some love, i play a ton of standard and have thought this card was insane for so long. Was super busted in Bant Party, and its just super strong in the current meta

I love Cathar commando almost every time I play it it's basically 3 mana prevent combat damage from one creature and destroy an artifact of enchantment and with Voltron being my buddies favorite play style it's been a life saver when timed right

Exotic Orchard is a-ma-zing. Glad to see it get the respect it deserves. I play it in every 2 color up deck.

I run Necromantic Selection in my Rakdos Chaos deck which is very wipe-heavy, this is a nice top end for my wipes. It's a funny card sometimes, it gives a heap of value for it's $, and okay value for mana in a deck that needs wipes. Agitator Ant is arguably BETTER in a non-combat meta, people are either ignoring it (and you get a growth effect stapled to a creature for reasonable value) or are getting goaded and keep swinging at one another. I run it in the Rakdos Chaos deck of course.

wow, Showdown of the Skalds! I had overlooked this card, TY NN, a 4 mana (impulse) draw four is bonkers esp for under $1. One of my favorite draws in Gruul is escape to the wilds and this card is almost there for one less ( minus land drop). Even Tidings in blue (sorcery-speed draw four,)you pay 5 ; Green will be creature conditional; and Black's version have you lose half your life for the same effect. It's in my TCG cart, I used your link :)

@JustRightPinedo

2 жыл бұрын

I guess one comment wasn't enough. Outpost siege is prevalent in my meta (I even run it my mono red for the ETB/LTB), but it would take it 5 turns to do *nearly* the same; there's a lot to be said about having the cards immediately, esp in the colors that most often see top deck mode.

I really want your guy’s opinion on Infiltration Lens! It’s just over $1 but I think it’s super underrated! 1 MV equipment that has equip 1 and “Whenever equipped creature becomes blocked by a creature, draw 2 cards”

Ngl I saw Heirloom Blade from the Jirina Kedros precon and knew it was powerful. I didn't know how crazy it could get...until I played it in my Rakdos Goblins! I love Heirloom Blade!

- Bronze Guardian is awesome, crushes face in my Akiri/Tevesh deck - I'll have to give Midnight Clock another try, I have been using Folio of Fancies instead - Agitator Ants cousin twice removed, Orzhov Advokist (you know I was going to type it), put them together in a deck for even more shenanigans - Hurl through Hell is hilariously flavorful in my Cleric deck; throw them through hell than convert them LOL - The new Indestructible Artifact lands are crazy. I love using Awakening the Vitu Ghazi and making that Indestrucitble Artifact land into a 8/8 Suggestions: -Stitcher Supplier is great but 4.49 uncommon ATM I prefer using Mire Triton: 1Swamp cmc, Zombie Merfolk, 2/1 Deathtouch, mills 2 cards on ETB and gives you 2 life. The card is great at a bunch of things, very under the radar - Phantom Steed, very silly ETB's later... even when they remove the Steed your creature comes back for another ETB! - Chitterspitter, all in one package, set it in a corner and crank out them squirrels and nuts, easy combo piece when combined with Intruder Alarm and a mana dork. Also pretty funny with changelings getting pumped for them acorns :P

Finally someone giving Fires of Yavimaya some love. I have it in every Gruul (or significantly Gruul) deck.

I love having an exotic orchard in play and then having an opponent having one too. This makes it able to tap for all the colors I have in play too haha

Have you guys ever considered Surveyor's Scope. It's only 25 cents and can be really effective at getting lands, plus the lands come in untapped

Joe with the Randy Orton pose at the beginning is great stuff💯

Kenrith's Transformation, Darksteel Mutation, and cards like that I love because they emphasize how important removal is. I love seeing my friends' faces when they realize that not only their commanders are useless now, but also that no amount of mana they're willing to throw at their commander tax will help.

In response to the aggro is problematic in commander sentiment... the one commander that I have that actually enables the archetype is Breena. Pair her with a bunch of 1 mana creatures and ways to protect your boardstate and just beat face, and never run out of cards. It's just so much power, so quickly.

Might be worth mentioning the affiliate link at the end of these videos. just watching this I added a couple cards to cart on tcg. If you mentioned the affiliate link as you wrap up before the patreon thanks, I bet you would see a lot more people click through. At the beginning of the video I am there to watch, rather than navigate away.

How the heck do you nerds produce so much long form content in such a short amount of time 🤯

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Hard work and dedication combined with being roommates

Changeling Outcast works pretty good in my Sethron Hurloon General deck he triggers my commander to come in with a 2/3 Minotaur buddy and when I pump my board he can’t be blocked

I see you, Cherries, wearing that sweet Dunkey merch.

Agitator ant says players, one of our play group used the pre con with it. He made a 9/9 unblockable, double strike snek and we couldn’t do squat

I'd add Custodi Soulcaller as well. Card is bonkers in terms of its textbox, statline while attacking and its price of about a quarter. I slept on the card for a long time until recently, then bought several for my decks once I re-learned it existed. Isshin also doubles both its melee trigger AND its recursion triggers for those looking for additions for that deck. Still can't believe the card has everything it does for a 1WW uncommon.

Along the same lines as Changeling Outcast, I'd recommend Universal Automaton. It's a 1 mana 1/1 with changeling like the outcast, but it's also an artifact for the decks that care about that, it can go in any deck because it's colorless, and you can even fetch it with Urza's Saga (if you really have nothing better to do with Urza's Saga.) My Atla Palani deck loves it because it's a 1 mana egg!

@bluepomegranate

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, and it's only $0.25. So it fits in budget builds too :)

Curiosity on any of the guttersnipe/electrostatic Field/Firebrand Archer in my Veyran deck is just overwhelming card advantage

Nicely done

I don’t know if you guys had it in the books but you should do best card from each commander. I know you love the inkshield. But is it the best?? I love callbacks to recent commanders!!

30:52 don't forget about crashing drawbridge. One doesn't always play Gruul.

secret tech for the dual artifact lands - cast cleansing wildfire targeting your own indestructible land to create your own rampant growth in red

I think you're a little hard on tormented soul. It's actually quite good. It is a role player, but it's an unblockable 1 drop. It totally triggers stuff, including ninjutsu and it can smash really hard out of nowhere if you target it with mega pump. You can even hatred it. It's not for every deck but when it's good, it can be really good.

great pics.

Heck yeah! Boutta add all of these to my collection!

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Use the link!!! 😂

Mentioned Leyline of the void and rest in piece and left out samurai of the pale curtain and my favorite of the effects, planar void, which is a budget Leyline of the void, except it affects yourself as well unlike Leyline, but it's 1 black mana. And it's like 1-2 bucks. Lol..

Beezy you should run fable of the mirror breaker in your brudiclad deck. Making treasures and turning them into goblins is pretty great.

A video idea could be strategies to counter/combat the most popular commanders at the moment yuriko, korvold, atraxa, etc.

Goad is such a fun mechanic. I love cards like Agitator Ant for encouraging interaction and active board states. As fun as counter magic can be, I'd rather see a brawl on the table rather than a counterspell control war, but that's just me. I strongly believe that Wizards needs to errata goad so it can bypass stacksy/pillowfort effects like Propaganda or Ghostly Prison. I have found myself sitting at a table where the goaded player/creatures are forced to attack me because their controller tapped out and my other opponents are holding up those enchantments or similar static abilities. Complete backfire in a goading/aggro strategy that already has a tough time keeping up with most metas. This could "break" goad but I can't think of how off the top of my head. Even the colors that goad seems to be prevalent in, e.g. Rakdos, and the like, have trouble removing enchantments as is.

@branhasknowidea

2 жыл бұрын

P.S. Beezy's tall, Joe's gay should be in every intro.

Song of the dryad's sticks through everything. Most games I play, if I put it on a commander, their game gets shut down entirely. Definitely stronger in that regard. Kenriths is easier than resolve. Just block something big. But the fact that it replaces itself with a draw gives it to kenritg

I played Changeling Outcast in a Knights deck where equipping to a knight is 0. You suit him up draw some cards and kill people with unblockable infect.

So nice to see Beezy officially coming out as tall.

Yes love to see hurl through hell on here. Been playing it in strefan for the longest time

For $1.25 you can get Rhythm of the Wild which is a much better haste enabler than Fires of Yavimaya because if you don’t need haste, you can give a +1/+1

So I have been playing MIdnight Clock wrong this whole time. Missed the EACH upkeep. wow. Also adding Curiosity to my Eruth deck tonight since I have a lot of copies and a lot of Guttersnipe type cards in it.

Aoways happy to see a budgets bombs list

Agitator Ant is a house in my Marchesa, the Black Rose deck.

12:48 I'm really interested to know if Necromantic Selection actually works this way

@nicolassilvani752

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure if this is exactly the same case but when I looked it up for Tergrid the answer was that you could not

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

I’m scrolling the comments to find out!

@dylanjohnson6481

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicolassilvani752 i believe its different because tergrid is a trigger

I would love it if you gave an honest review of one of my favorite cards. Soldevi Adnate!

For Reckless Endeavor, nothing feels better than getting a 12 and another 12. It wins the game on the spot

excellent series; some speakers may be blown out when you say the title though

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

lol we put sound warning

Got a wizard or shaman commander with a triggered ability. Then you need the budget bomb harmonic prodigy. Is your deck shaman or wizard tribal then this is your doubling season.

Is Curiosity just an insane combo with the new Tatsunari, Toad Rider deck? Attach to the Keimi and then everytime you play an enchantment draw 3?

@emerson685

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that doesn't work. Keimi causes loss of life, which is not the same as damage in the world of magic rules.

@Grief111

2 жыл бұрын

@@emerson685 thanks for the clarification. Still good in that deck, but bumped down from insane.

@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299

2 жыл бұрын

Classic Rancor has been many a bane in my new Tatsunari deck, swing for 5 trample with Keimi, Keimi dies get Rancor back do it again for 1 forest :P

Solid vid

Never knew Cherries was homosexual, but super happy that he can help others like him in being the best person in their own skin. Love the content! Beezy, you are super tall bro!

Another plus for Cathar Commando while it's the same cmc as caterpillar it has 1 less pip between it's casting cost and ability cost

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

True, it's slightly easier to cast + activate!

No the necromantic selecting doesn't work the commander changing zones thing to put it in the command zone it treated as a state based effect I believe could be wrong but pretty sure that's how it works: Edit jk just checked apparently state based effects can't be checked in the middle of a spell resolving

Curiosity on niv mizzet is such a funny thing to do

I watch all your videos, so I already have all these cards 🤣💖🤭

NEW NITPICKING NERDS VIDEO!

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Every single day!

Love the videogamedunkey shirt :)

I run codex shredder over perpetual timepiece, it has broader application but mills only one card. shredder gains the advantage of being useable in combo loops. Why not run both though?

@NitpickingNerds

2 жыл бұрын

Both could work. I think shredder is bit too slow overall though

Reckless Endeavor sure is a 7-mana spell as far as Vial Smasher is concerned, though >:) and the Treasures stick around unlike Jeska's Will, so you can use it on other players' turns to get another Vial Smash

Changeling Outcast is the best pirate in my Beckett Brass deck.

6'6" omg i'm shocked xD And 5'9" whuuuuuut I thought you guys were smaller than that oh god, giant content creators ahahahhaha love you

Exotic Orchard is good in all non-green 2-color decks, and then in all 3/4/5 color decks as well. Especially in Blue and Black decks, since honestly, sit down and tell me the last time nobody played blue or black at a table of more than 1 person[s].

Don't forget Ward stacks if you copy that Bronze Guardian... Technically Diamond Valley and City of Shadows are lands that sac a creature

Run Chupacabra on my Aminatou blink. Panharmonicon + conjurer's closet is almost a board wipe

love the dunkey merch. NOT EVEN CLOSE BAYBEEEEEE

Banewhip Punisher is also an under-rated cheaper version of chupacabra, but it just doesn't let you keep it after 😥

Dang, I need agitator Ant for Marchesa the black Rose.