Agreed on the front of needing more Drukhari-centric lore, and the concept of a Vect backstory series being an awesome idea. That said, you are severely underselling the hatred the Craftworlders hold for the Drukhari. Yes, the Drukhari sent aid to Iyanden, but you've left out the reason they did this - They wanted Iyanden to keep living, because they enjoyed watching them suffer. Drukhari don't generally view other aeldari as kin, the same as they don't view their own rivals as kin, and have frequently captured Craftworlders and Exodites for the same hideous purposes as they capture Humans. For a Craftworlder, there could be no one more vile than an Eldar that tortures and mutilates their kind for their own gain, not even a Slaaneshi daemon. Alliances are purely born out of desperation, when the ONLY possible alternative is oblivion. The Drukhari are the true inheritors of the legacy of their fallen empire, it was their lifestyle that created Slaanesh in the first place, and the reason they haven't shared such technology with the Craftworlders (Or destroyed them) is simply because they don't care about the fate of their species - They want the good times to keep rolling, for themselves, specifically as individuals, so pairing the Craftworlders and Drukhari together makes about as much sense as pairing the Imperium and Chaos together - HOWEVER. I would pay darn good money to see a Craftworlder and/or Ynnari heist plotline that sees them stealing the technology to create half-born, and the subsequent battles they have with the Haemonculi covens, desperate to regain their secrets. And make no mistake, it's the Haemonculi, not Vect, that harbours this secret technology.

I think the Path of the Dark Eldar novels are the only full Drukhari POV centered novels we get of them which is an absolute shame. I love them as a faction and I think they could have some interesting stories to tell.

@dominicktomko6767

Жыл бұрын

Literally just finished reading the Omnibus today. And I see Rho make a lore video about the Dark Eldar. I''m weirded af right now, kinda scared at the chances of that happening. The books were amazing. I loved Motley.

@MrHelix7293

Жыл бұрын

You should also read the Other Path series from the Craftworlds few. Great insight. There is descriptions of cities in the webway where both, Drukharii and Asurianii live together sharing their lifestyles and culture in a nice mix. For me, the relationship between Drukharii and Asurianii has always been like feudal europe. Lots of infights for power and stuff, but ultimately they are one huge family and fought together against outside threats like Ottoman invasion

Asdrubael Vect can absolutely NOT rival the silent king in age. Also: the g in Commoragh is silent.

@the36lessons11

Жыл бұрын

You are correct on everything. The Silent King is like tens of millions of years old iirc. Vect is maybe a little over 10,000 (13,000 max). "Commorragh" is loosely based on Gomorrah from the Old Testament and most likely sounds similar in pronunciation. Shaa-dom is a section of Commorragh that was abandoned and quarantined off due to a Warp incursion; a wink to the city of Sodom from the same story.

The halfborn aren't the only reason for their high population. The Hommonculi can regenerate and regrow a full Drukhari from a single ear or finger so despite their high casualty rates, they are also able to regrow their numbers with both regenerated and new halfborn members.

I am surprised that no one has done more of a cyberpunk-esk version of commorragh

The Dark Eldar trilogy was phenomenal. I hope we eventually get more of them.

love your videos mate . keep up the good work . wish for longer videos tho

Totally awesome. Thanks!

What do the aeldari really have in common with the drukhari? As far as I see its only their shared ancestry and enemy races. The rest is different. I see where you coming from but the mindsets of both factions are so different they would be worse off forming a long term alliance than just teaming up for a few battles. Also, you should drop the fenrisian ale Wolf Lord... just when would the HAEMONCULI of all creatures ever do a such a charitable act as provide the craftworlds the means to regrow their populations? They would sooner enslave every craftworld!

@thejetty_

Жыл бұрын

Sorry if I’m misinterpreting your question. But having such a difference between the Drukhari, CW, and Maid Worlds allows for the Eldar race to flourish if brought together. In the Path of the Incubus book, a Harlequin explains to an Incubi that no current problem can be solved by each group by themselves. For instance in this book a Disjunction is occurring in Commoragh and without the help of the Harlequins and Exodites (to some extent) their current predicament couldn’t be solved by the drukhari alone. Yes most on either the Drukhari side nor CW side would ideally want to work with one another, but many of these people have extremely similar backgrounds and all struggle/cope with similar issues. Having a collective race would allow them to view issues with different perspectives. Going back to the book, the Incubi makes a jab stating him nor any of the Commorites would ever work with someone from a different path/group. Yet here he is partnering up with a Harlequin who has vastly different goals, ideals, and perspective as his own. Each group states they hate each other, which is true yes, but many do not have exposure to one another on a mutual ground. Sorry kinda rambled and I may not have answered your question clearly.

@Silverdeathpt

Жыл бұрын

@@thejetty_ Thank you for the in-depth answer. Personally I do not know much about warhammer 40k, so my interpretation will most likely be amateurish but what I essentially meant was that there is no way the Drukhari and especially the Haemonculi would ever provide assistance to the craftworlds in regards to their dwindling population. Like you said, the Drukhari are capable of partnering up for a LIMITED time with other factions when there is a common goal, however I just can't see the Drukhari aligning themselves with the Craftworlders, Exodites or Harlequins in a more permanent fashion due to their differences. Mind you, its been milennia and all factions have evolved very differently: Craftworld Aeldari have a rigid lifestyle whilst the Drukhari have a more excessive one. Psychic powers are accepted within craftworlders but shunned by the drukhari. I could see two different but MODERATE parts of each faction coming together, but now the whole, they are just too much of the opposite to one another and if anything, the reunion of the Aeldari race into a single faction would do nothing more than destroy the race due to civil conflict.

@raftguy1376

Жыл бұрын

@@Silverdeathpt You forget how much they are prized as slaves for the fighting pits, or torture victims. The purest souls make for the most delicious torture subjects. Pampered craftworlders whom experience emotion on an exponentially deeper level than some pathetic mon keigh are far more valuable. They could very well seek to rebuild the Aeldari, as it increases the “livestock” available to their sadistic desires. But the Halrequin, Ynnari, Corsairs, etc. all are hybrid factions that aim to unite/blend the species in some form or another.

Great video and insight and yes a strategic defense alliance and possibly trading would strengthen both sides against the growing power of Chaos, Tyranids, Orks and Necrons even though the last ones seem to care little knowing the weakness of the Eldar race as it is now.

A fantastic thought topic Unfortunately I know very little of the lore So I could not even begin to speculate. This does intrigue me enough to find out more though my many thanks.

Really want an author to do for the Deldar what ADB did for the Night Lords. Not to "redeem" them or anything they'll always be sadistic, selfish, comically edgy evil monsters but they could be 3 dimensional monsters with likeable characters and interesting stories rather than what is essentially one giant grimdark punchline.

@WildWolfGod

Жыл бұрын

If someone can do what ADB did for the Night Lords to Deldar I'm gonna be all over it honestly.

@ruipinho619

Жыл бұрын

One of the Charcarodons books is set in Comorragh and has very good DE characters and interactions. Should check that out

@kido2577

4 ай бұрын

Andy Chambers already did that with Path of the dark eldar trilogy. It’s a great read.

I've always thought that the Harlequins would be the ones to bridge the gap between the Eldar and Dark Eldar. Afterall, they do perform for both separately. Perhaps one of their Shadow Seers or Solitaires would help convince an Archon or Seer Council of the potential benefits of each other's ways. A mutual long term benefit for all by sharing resources in the manner of techniques rather than material. Just passing thoughts

@Kristian.B.Kristiansen

Жыл бұрын

Harlequins can come from every type of Eldar, and do work as medium for the Race entire. But they aren't a people so much as a religious army. No-one is born a Harlequin. A Drukhari might chose to become so to permanently escape the pain-need, but in exchange they loose individual freedom.

@the36lessons11

Жыл бұрын

They have and do set up alliances between the sects of Eldar. Though, the Drukhari are selfish and schemers and tend to only do so out of desperation or until they are bored. The Asuryani also may _see_ something on the skeins of fate their dark brethren do not, so neither party truly comes to trust each other and their alliance is only kept until the Harlequins are satisfied.

Honestly, Slaanesh is pretty much keeping them at bay. WIthout it they could use their psychic powers and all the op prime eldar tech that mainly beongs to them, but needs psykers to be used. Without Slaanesh they'd be free to use it and go to war in realspace. The most decadent Eldar went into the webway before the birth of Slaanesh and built Commoragh, she who thists/the dark prince mainly feeds of their depravity and forces them to keep going because of it's claim to their soul. They were already this depraved before.

@Kristian.B.Kristiansen

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, without Slaanesh, the Eldar Empire of Old would rule the Galaxy still.... so you aren't wrong.

A combined aldari force would be awesome. If love to see it

@3:53 "I mean. I know you lose it if you don't use it. But if you use it... constantly. It's going to get worn out in shrivel up." - *Emperor TTS*

I want this man to narate my life!

The drukhari would be a much stronger force if they weren't constantly infighting.

@raftguy1376

Жыл бұрын

So would the necrons, or the imperium’s adepta

Correct me if I'm wrong. I thought Iyanden's craftworld population even before the run in with the Hivefleets was mostly off of the Craftworld. I'm sure in the lore, have to go double check, that Iyanden has the most terrestrial Aeldari colonies. What is more they aren't formal colonies but active one. So their true size is a quite unknown.

@the36lessons11

Жыл бұрын

I believe you are sort of correct. Iyanden (with assistance from Biel-Tan) were the most prolific and helpful to the Exodites by expanding, reclaiming, and founding new colonies. Biel-Tan was more war-centric, whereas Iyanden was more focussed on re-igniting the flame of hope through more rustic means. At some point their alliance with Biel-Tan became complicated and strained, if I recall. I can't remember the source specifically, but I think they were the only Craftworld setting up planetary colonies until the coming of the Tyranids.

@Tagishlicht

Жыл бұрын

@@the36lessons11 ya I'm sure that is exactly what I was referencing. It's just I read it so long ago I'm struggling to find which source book I read it in. Honestly sometimes having too many lore books can be a blessing and a curse.

@Some_Cool_Dude

Жыл бұрын

No while they had a lot of colonies, more so than most others, about 80% of their population was decimated directly by the high Fleet, it's in the 6th edition book for iyanden

I want the Lions return to be momentous but after that i want so much for Leman Russ to trundle out of the eye with "the tree of life" Isha in tow... instruct his wolves to return her home and watch the entire Eldari race get turned upside down as the rising God of the dead and the newly returned Goddess of life pull in diametrically opposite directions.

@scrotusmaximus3043

Жыл бұрын

I like that 👍👍

@mattruecker5861

Жыл бұрын

Hey Wolflord Rho do a video about what could happen if Isha ever made it out of the Garden. The ramifications could be as large as Roboute returning.

eh, i think you severly overestimate the power of the drukhari and underestimate the power of the craftworlds - especially since there are way more craftworlds than the few we usually name

So what's up with Drazar?

I think for now it may be a matter of what the writers intend to write trumping what they actually wrote. The numbers regarding the cabal were made by GW in reference to the Drukhari faction itself, and so far as I know we don't really have numbers for the craftworlds. But we do know their average aspect warrior is a lot better than the average cabalite with Incubi, decent wyches, and heamonculi being relatively scarce. Oh, and we know GW's track record with numbers. That being said weather or not they made a mistake in this case is still up to where they want to take the story. You might be guessing what they very well intend to do.

"I vote for Vect because Im a good Drukari." -Turning Point

A union could also mean drukhari could be used to acquire aeldari soul stones

Ah yes, the purest form of grimdark, sadist/masochist elite who torture others to sustain their cursed lives. GW hinting not so subtly at their vampiric aristocracy 😆

Eldari could help him with his demon problem!!!$$$+++

Why do the craft world and exodite Eldar not experience the soul draining that the Drukari experience?

@isaachaahr8691

Жыл бұрын

I think that is the purpose of the spirit stones

@the36lessons11

Жыл бұрын

They do in a sense, but the Exodites use their World Spirit and the Craftworlders their Spirit Stones as a mental/spiritual shield and vessel against Slaanesh. The Dark Eldar just replace their spirit draining by draining others and replenishing their own through torture and suffering. All Eldar, no matter their faction, always feel the need to give in to their lust and desires for experience; it is the curse of Slaanesh's birth...the Drukhari have just embraced and expanded it. The Asuryani and Exodites actively resist it. It is also their cultures' penchant for self-control and meditation versus the giving in to hedonism the Dark Eldar indulge in without limit. The ones who are in most danger are the Outcasts and pirates, who indulge themselves with freedom and experience, but lack any true protection from She-Who-Thirsts. Some become Dark Eldar and make their way to Commorragh or have their fill of adventure and return to the Craftworlds...others have a dark fate of an eternity of torment dying without a Spirit Stone.

The true size of commoragh how many drukhari are their billions?

I always thought that it was pronounced "Come-Or-Ah" like Gomorrah from the bible. Anyway the Deldar are my favourite faction and I would love for them to be the key to the end of She Who Thirsts.

@worldeater2414

Жыл бұрын

Mate, I don't think the Drukhari are inviting people to their city

@richarddespres8011

Жыл бұрын

@@worldeater2414 what do you mean? People get "invited" there all the time. I hear it's to die for 😆🤪

@worldeater2414

Жыл бұрын

@@richarddespres8011 hahah not really funny 😑

@the36lessons11

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, pretty much how we say Gomorrah from the Old Testament. _"Kom-or-ah"_ is how I pronounce it and have heard others. I mean, Shaa-dom is a sub-realm they quarantined off after a daemonic invasion and Warp incursion occurred, which is a big fat wink to Sodom from the same story.

@richarddespres8011

Жыл бұрын

@@the36lessons11 Nothing like the most depraved of the Eldar to represent the biggest story of indulgence and sin from the Bible eh?

You just suggested that Vect is 64 million years old or thereabouts...

There might be a critical flaw in your plan. The Drukhari can grow more Drukhari to be sure, but those are Drukhari! They have never proven the ability to grow "Healthy" Eldar-Souls. This ends your scheme right out of the gate. Also the Craftworlds have one key advantage, the Dark Ones lack completely; Psyker Powers! The greatest lords prophecy and Warp magic in the Galaxy are not helpless!

@Masterlink53

Жыл бұрын

Yes this is the point I was hoping to see. Also drukhari do not have spirit stones, their souls get eaten by Slaanesh while being alive and they need to make living creatures suffer to regain sustenance. Those honeycomb growing vats, they function as an audience to the homonculous's depravity while he experiments on the living and that suffering grows/regrows the Drukhari. This would not function on an Aeldari. The only drukhari that have any sort of freedom from this are the ones with Ynnead. And while there is a story with a Drukhari gaining a spirit stone, its made clear its an extremely rare case and required tons of dedication because too much time in real space would cause Slaanesh to find him outright.

Decimate means that they were reduced by 10%

Honestly, I've been an Eldar player on tabletop since 1998 and, at that point, I'd rather have a fusion of all Eldar factions inside unified Aeldari codexes than receiving no love from GW for years.😅

Something something Sly Marbo

So, the Dark Eldar just showed up to help?! This sounds a lot like racketeering!

@mushputato

Жыл бұрын

Actually they only helped Iyanden because they found Iyanden's suffering too amusing to let up. So, more like preventing the network from cancelling your favourite show than helping out a fellow aeldari.

But going by that logic one must say that the eldar die first followed by empire / Tau, then chaos, since... come on... chaos vs nids? We've seen that and it was a disaster for chaos. Orks are next since not even they might face the Nids. The final battle then is Nids vs. Necrons. And we all know who wins that since the nids are doing their best to NOT get into a fight with the Necrons. Fortunately history is not that easily written in 40k. My guess is that some Ynnead force will take on Slaanesh while the emperor / empire will go against the Chaos gods. Ofc nothing gets eradicated since... well... you can make no money with something that isn't there anymore... :D

yeah not enough books for the drukhari putting them as the main focus. usually reading about them from the pov of a different character or faction.

It really couldnt last. They are pain vampires who die without the suffering of others. Even when theyre feeding aliens it still disgusts all who watch

*_Yes Inquisitor, all the cyclonic torpedoes right here._*

Do soulstones go black because the drukhari are half born, therefore not full souled, or because of the fact they're sustained by torture?

@Kristian.B.Kristiansen

Жыл бұрын

Both? But more crucial, the stones acts as containers for the souls, and the Dark Eldar souls are damaged fundamentally. They can't be cut free from She Who Thirst. So no stone can safely store them.

@TheKlink

Жыл бұрын

@@Kristian.B.Kristiansen that's why I asked the question. It seems to me the greater bottleneck to eldar population is the soulstones. Do dark eldar soil traps torture by default, or could they be re-engineered to be a manufactured soul stone.

@Kristian.B.Kristiansen

Жыл бұрын

@@TheKlink We know, that only one thing seems able to cure the Soul-sickness of the Dark Ones; An Eldar God. The Clown-God and now The Death God recruits Drukhari followers with the promise of ending their pain-need. Nothing else have ever worked. The Drukhari can grow more Drukhari, but they are soul-sick and must be Pain-eaters or become Clowns or Death-worshippers. Only Craftworlders and Excodits with their soul-stones tech can live normal, healthy and free lives.

I sure wouldn’t like to find myself in commorag. It sounds worse than commoragh

Comorragh is pronounced comma-raar.

I really hope not, they are consistently the most unecessarily evil of all the factions, since they can become exodites, harlequins or craftworlders to avoid living off suffering. They have not earned the win, the craftworlders and harlequins have been the ones holding the line and proactively trying to defeat Slaanesh. The psycho torture pirates deserve the greatest karmic backlash in the galaxy and nothing more.

Yes, Dark Eldar, the objectively coolest and most interesting faction in 40K. If you like them, you have good taste, fact.

@phantomwraith1984

Жыл бұрын

Don't cut yourself on that Edge

@thelion2751

Жыл бұрын

Well that's actually true,as whole they are really interesting aside from humanity dark age and some characters,the eldar have more dark lore to look and search

@joshuakelly5321

Жыл бұрын

@@phantomwraith1984 Not edgey, just speaking facts, get some taste man.

@Lord_Vesh

Жыл бұрын

I like their heads mounted on the front of my war bike

@Anonymous-mp2ln

Жыл бұрын

They don't have psykers so it's a bit of a dealbreaker for a magic lover like me. I guess you can kinda get around it with allied units.

Vect's cool but he's younger than Eldrad. Dude is cool but he's got nowhere near the age or experience of the Silent King, who is tens of millions of years old with a super computer brain.

We do not get any DE novels simply because their army doesn't sell well. ;/

Stop claiming some one can rival the Silent King. Silent King shattered C'tan Nyadra'zatha the Burning one. No other single character alive in 40K can defeat a C'tan.

@kaynesylvar8277

Жыл бұрын

The Emperor could.

@vladtheimpaler3625

Жыл бұрын

@@kaynesylvar8277No, he can't. He is nearly killed by a chaos juiced Horus.

@mushputato

Жыл бұрын

The Emperor DID defeat the Dragon of Mars, who is practically confirmed by now to be The Void Dragon. That said, however, it was logically just another shard, albeit a very large chunk, given that shards of the Void Dragon are floating about now.

@kaynesylvar8277

Жыл бұрын

@@vladtheimpaler3625 he also perportedly didn’t fight for most of the battle. He just sat there and was sad until he got his act together… the chaos gods themselves feared him, he’s at least on par with the Silent King.

@sethzac2424

Жыл бұрын

What about the other named C’tan ?

Dhrukari are really a Ewww faction.They are pretty doomed and have no means of salvation, they are essentially zombies. And he is nowhere on the level of the Silent king who has killed both old gods and weaponized C'tan. They have the tech, but their souls are doomed, and if it wasn't for the laughing god, they wouldn't even have a leg to stand on.

It's com-or-ahh. Like Gammorha, the biblical city destroyed for it's depravity. There's actually a surprising amount of 40k lore that's heavily influenced by christian mythology.

I'm confused now,are dark elder worse or better then our worse=nazis? there was 2 nazi propaganda video "ads." on this,it fit.

@isaachaahr8691

Жыл бұрын

Worse, but at that level it really is not worth eating evil.

they need to unionize and then make more eldar babies

the DREW CARREY