Ok Jake you sold me ,I have been watching your channel for less than a year and I learned so much about worship leading to worship tech and you convinced me to talk to the leadership in my church to sign up for Worship Ministry school 😃!!!

Would love to see an updated version of this. What would you do differently? What changes for 2023

Mate. Fantastic work as always. I really appreciate the effort and research you put into these videos. You've been a massive help for a LOT of churches worldwide. Regards from The Living Room Church in Australia.

@Churchfront

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Using blackmagic in church. 😂😂

@TheOnyx3821

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and we send the audio to it on our Dante network ! lol!

@sleekdee931

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 It outputs whitemagic when in the presence of the Holy Spirit 😂😂

@october267

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahhaha!

@restorationmiraclecenterch366

3 жыл бұрын

We are church in Africa haw can i get this we like it.

@ejikeonwunabonze

3 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

I love seeing ACTUAL hardware in stuff like this!

Jake....WOW....Brilliant set-up! I know your church is "portable", so you needed the equipment portable. BUT...I really like the idea of being portable like you have set up. Who knows when we might need to move locations??? The portable set-up is pure genius!

I have a similar setup, and I’m surprised to see so much information given away for free 😅👍 That is a tremendous amount of work and time to get it all properly working. I should know, I’m doing it 🙌

We use a Macbook, a second monitor, OBS, a couple of good phones as camera along with a basic mirrorless, and Yamaha AG06 with an analog mixer. Best part is AG06 has a hardware loopback for audio playback. Works like a piece of cake.

if you are going to spend that kinda of money on that gear, definitely invest in a shock mount rack for it

It’s great that you share your knowledge with other! Many thanks. God bless you

Regarding the cellular modem, both Windows and OSX have the ability to identify a particular wifi connection as "metered," which can help avoid the system update downloads that you mentioned concern for. However, someone should be regularly checking for & installing updates to ensure they don't cause everything to slow down on Sunday.

I have worked with blackmagic and have found that slingstudio has been a much better on the go rig. Here is few things which I found that made it a nice win. Wireless (Makes setup time so much more easy and no messy cable runs and tape), IPAD wireless APP so you can run everything from anywhere. Automatic upscaling/downscaling for different camera feeds, Internet upload bandwidth live upscale/downscale depending on internet bandwidth. A big plus is the cost is much much cheaper than what it would cost to build this rig. It is a much simpler rig and easier to train people to use it.

*Great setup Brother, but with all due respect, I can think of several small to mid sized congregations (Including my own), who could not possibly afford the price tag associated with your setup. I am in agreement with the technical feasibility and design of your excellent quality setup, but we both know well these dedicated switchers, video encoders, audio mixers, MBP lappy setup, and cameras are really pricey. It's not as much as what it used to cost to do it, but I can't see your setup costing much less than $20,000.00 USD (Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). However, what cannot be disputed is the simple fact you have designed and built a great live video broadcast portable setup that is quite intriquing.*

@brycemaurer2280

3 жыл бұрын

the rack set up is $6400 minimum and the cameras are $7734 minimum...Oh I believe in the set up but to bad for a 50 member church

@j_akae_6982

3 жыл бұрын

Fortunately everything in this setup can be run from a computer such as the Mac mini m1 and if you’re looking for cameras that are less than $500 a piece you could purchase Panasonic g7’s or canon t3i’s which output 1080 video and allow you to change lenses and grow your setup. The whole thing can be achieved for as little as $1500 assuming you don’t already have a computer or cameras

Excellent work Jake.

this video is a blessing brother thanks!! We have the majority of this gear this give some awesome alternatives blessing from Atlanta GA

No one: This guy’s face in every thumbnail: 👁👄👁

@joshpetermann

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment 😂

Thanks for all these useful videos, it is helping incredibly my church. Greetings from Colombia.

This truly is a good setup portable or hard mounted in your tech booth. I'm thinking the cameras was something you already had. Cameras with SDI outputs would be oh so nice one day. Agreed too on ATEM Mini pro unless it is a way to get started then passed down to youth ministry.

(I know you've already upgraded your setup and it's a bit too late for this advice) For the cell router, get one with an external removable antenna, and get a panel mount extension cable to bring it to the outside of the case where you can plug an antenna externally or have a longer cable to position an antenna somewhere more optimal.

Do you have a routing diagram/photo of how you use the sdi hub...love the idea behind the hub!!

For those who are asking the question: $6500 total (roughly). Nice rig man! Now where do we buy the volunteer(s) to go with the rig?

I need that SDI router lol got an ATEM TV studio HD as our Main switcher like you. Great vid as always Jake!

We had one main computer doing VMix AND ProPresenter 6 when back in March. We added a MacBook Pro in August mainly to start being able to edit video & audio without paying a subscription (...and me secretly wanting a MacBook Pro because we don't have one at church ha!). I'm finally getting around to figuring out how to get our mix into Logic and then into our main computer for VMix. But what you're saying for "Benefits of hardware switcher" is blowing my mind and I may want to approach this differently...

I wish I could afford to buy something like that. I also have a small church where we used to gather 15 people, but with the pandemic it doesn't leave us and I stay like this for 11 years. I could never afford to have something expensive. .I wish people would be happy to hear God's message, poverty has always knocked on my door since I was a child, that's how I lived my whole family

How are you syncing video and audio? The clip didnt seem synced, when switching to the BMD cam. The ATEM Mini can delay audio now, but I don think this switcher can. How do you deal with cameras with different video delays?

@peter_smyth

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the audio is delayed by the audio console.

Very helpful and informative as always. Thank you Jake. 🙂🙏🏽

Amazing setup

Great talk through!

We are stationary but this still looks like an awesome set up. Would be really great if we had to move back to a drive in service!

People, build a PC base video mixer. Use Decklink 8K cards and vmix (free license for churches). It has all the features you need in one PC and it converts its inputs accordingly to your project settings in vmix. Cost round about 3 to 5k (excluding cameras).

Thank you Jake!!!

Jake's got all the jokes today....:) Love your videos!

This is packed!!!

Great setup but very expensive for a lot of churches can you do a budget version.

@Churchfront

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/X5WqmMyye9DHY8Y.html

@elmcapp6032

3 жыл бұрын

Hardware base this is budget version. However cheaper option is all software

@TaaviJuursalu

3 жыл бұрын

We have 3 cameras but have gear for 6 - atem mini iso would be budget.

@lamarshealey3332

3 жыл бұрын

Taavi Juursalu I have an Atem mini also with two cameras and I love it but he turn a lot of people off of it and it might be their only option

@elmcapp6032

3 жыл бұрын

@@lamarshealey3332 Atem mini works well but you will find that it has limits. Example it does not handle long runs where the camera is far from the video mixer well. Also there is the issue that it does not support all input sources. It's more for podcast

They are a software company, not a women’s bible study!?!? Haha 😂 oh man, Jake you should do stand up

Can you now recommend the 8 input atem mini for the church over the television studio HD than you for the info.

Hello Jack! My name is Daniel and I am from Russia. We are all very bad with the media. Thank you, I learned a lot from your videos. My set of equipment for broadcasts is: Atem mini PRO, Canon D600, Propresenter 7, OBS. In one of the videos I found an answer on how to add slides from Propresenter 7 to OBS by NDI. Tell me, how can I add a videophone in the reverse side to Propresenter 7 via NDI?

This is a terrific setup and video. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. My question is: how do you get your T-Mobile wireless hotspot data to your switch? Are you using the Mac’s internet sharing and the CalDigit?

Hi Jake, Love your videos. We are looking at putting cameras into the church but I’m struggling with NDI vs SDI. Could you do a video comparing the two? Particularly, initial low cost setup, quality, reliability?

Cost of the items mentioned about $13,764.74 + tax. I added the cost of the cameras and lenses myself since they weren't in his list. I also added the cost of the Netgear 4G lte modem. I did not add the cost of accessories like tripods, lighting gear, monthly internet, cables, etc.

@lamooremediaversatility

3 жыл бұрын

My Church got everything setup for $10,000.00 and everything is portable.

Like the gears now what the price of the hold package?

Could you do a video on how to set-up for a multi camera live stream using mobile phones

Why did you put the PDU on the top U? Wouldn't that risk burning equipment? Especially without spacing it out by another U to avoid this?

What company did you all get the 4G LTE modem from? Our church needs something like that

Thanks Jake, that’s a huge breakdown! You mention the main production computer. Is that a Mac mini or something? I can’t see where in the rack it is and because it’s thunderbolt I thought it would have to be close by.

Hi Jake, what network switch are you using for this build? the ethernet switch that you've mentioned. Thank you :)

Sick setup, but it seems like overkill for 3 cameras. I'd just use the ATEM mini and a laptop with OBS.

This video is pretty much goals for our streaming setup, might take a couple years to build up to this. Any chance there's a recommendation on maybe 2 key pieces to get first? Or even one piece that would help with our computer not taking all the workload? We only have a 1 camera setup and ProPresenter 7 starts to lag slightly when streaming. Would love to build up to this slowly somehow. Thanks in advance!

What is the total cost of this portable set up?

If you're streaming to KZread, why not use their editor and trim the video down to just the sermon so that you maintain all of the views on the video?

I have the bmpcc and the Gh5s on the Atem mini and find out that the gg5s has a big latency over the bm. Did you notice this?

Hello sir Well at church we have singers, the band etc. but now I need your assistance in what I will need when I want to record good quality of them singing and the band at the same time. They sing in front and I am at the back in the sound engineering console so what is it that I need to produce quality audio and videos. Like what software's, what gadgets etc. Thank you for your help. Hope you understand what I am trying to say 🤣🤣🤣

Your channel is very helpful. Question-Can I get sound from the mixer to the televisions in the front of the house wirelessly? Thank you!

How do you play the countdown video.

Would it not be cheaper to use the videohub cleanswitch so you don't need the switcher ?

I'm looking also for TRULY REAL PORTABLE consumer setup improvment. Currently I film live parties/workshops always on the move mostly with handheld stabilizer gimbal and phone. I have optional extention to mount small portable lighting and small omnidirectional microphone... Any suggestions? :)

Hi! If you're worried about internet, why don't you use any form of cellular bonding? For instance, a Teradek or LiveU product.

What would you recommend for a Church in a school auditorium that doesn’t have hardline access into the Internet

that was a pretty good like button plug ngl

My question is, why would you send 4 video signals from propresenter? We just feed the presentation directly onto our feed and set 'looks' inside propresenter to know when it is suppose to be full screen/lower 3rds.. etc

aca en Sudamerica no llegan esas maquinas, como puedo hacerlo para traerlo a usted a enseñarme a poner la cosita?

Does the black magic card bypass the MacBooks 2 maximum displays?

Can you acquire it in India?

Hi Jake, can you also show your audio rack in another video ?

Would using a 12x12 videohub clean switch be better?? Or does it not matter?

What display is that on your church's stage

Me just sitting here and hearing dollars dollars dollars... Lord, help my faith lol

@Churchfront

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@carsonsuite8357

3 жыл бұрын

You don’t need all that stuff to make an awesome stream and reach people. I always say audio first get that solid. Most important, but then I could make a livestream better than his for half the budget the living as one/resi stuff actually really sucks don’t buy into their junk. They can’t even use KZread features like adding a thumbnail and scheduling livestream which are very important. Streaming natively to KZread and Facebook is better because you can use features that feed the KZread algorithm. Main thing: it’s all about your content nobody wants to watch a 1 hour church service unchurched people don’t know what worship is they think it’s just music. I encourage you if you stream to make a special experience for online viewership. All churches are doing it wrong when it comes to reaching new people that don’t know who Jesus is. You can be the difference and you don’t need all that gear to do it! I say all this to encourage you. 😊

@iamfemo

3 жыл бұрын

@@carsonsuite8357 Thank you good Sir!

@Ck87JF

3 жыл бұрын

@@carsonsuite8357 if all churches are doing it wrong, what's your suggestion for getting it right? What's that special experience look like to you?

@carsonsuite8357

3 жыл бұрын

CkASDF that’s a good question and it depends on your goals as a church. Is it to show what your church is doing in service or making a experience that reaches people? To me, it looks a lot like the format of trending content on the platform. A growing/trending channel on KZread, builds community, educates and entertains. I think churches can find ways to Uniquely check those boxes but to me live-streaming your in person experience doesn’t do any of that well. Long format video is hard to sell to unchurched. Break down the content, the message portion of church services on average are the peak online attendance. So that tells you what is most important to people already. Now, how do you take that message and begin to check off the other boxes with a video that is 15 minutes or less that also aligns with what your churches vision, values and goals are?

Using this video as a starting point for researching some upgrades for my church. I know he says to avoid the ATEM mini as a switching system, but even if you didn't use it for camera inputs and switching, could it replace the Hyperdeck Studio (for recording) and the Ray encoder (for streaming) to save some money? Send it the final output to stream and record? I've used none of those pieces of equipment; could someone with more experience tell me the cons?

this is awsome setup but how do you get your audio to the smart hub

Do you not have problems sending signal from your mac into the ATEM Television Studio HD? I keep hearing that you need an external converter or 'scaler' like the Decimator MD-HX to switch the frame right from your computer to the correct one that is set in the ATEM Studio. AKA most Macs output at 60 frames but if your ATEM Studio is set to 24 frames the Mac will not show up

I purchased a Blackmagic hdmi capture device and use OBS but can’t see the camera. I tried hdmi from camera to tv and it works fine. Do I have to have a pure Thunderbolt Display port to thunderbolt usb-c and or a thunderbolt usb-c outlet on the laptop?

You mentioned your smart hub is SDI but also said your cameras are coming in as HDMI. Are you using converters and where are you putting them?

I have an idea on how we can fit in tyre wheels on this awesome product and still be able to mount is firmly on a stand. I'll really love us to communicate more... How do we do that?

Switcher Studio, a digital AV dongle and a good hotspot can get this done. Do you agree?

Hi Jake. We use NewTek Tricaster in our church. Do you have any information on that and if it's a good system? At present we have Tricaster Advanced Edition and works pretty well and we're looking to upgrade to Tricaster Elite. I'm watching your videos to learn if there are other better solutions out there.

Could I ask a quick question? When you connect your ProPresenter to the video switcher, are you just using one output and removing black with a luma key? Or are you using two outputs with an alpha key? I'm curious as to how you have the alpha key setup to the switcher.

Please can I get one of this

What's an expansion chassis?

thank you for this video! I am looking for an exterior camera for a church. it will have to be used in fixed instaltion. do you have a camera to suggest to me?

Inspiring 👍

Hello, what is the software do you use at 13:32 ? Nice result

HELP: okay. So we’ve duplicated this setup pretty close. However running PP7, lightkey, and ableton for livestream audio mixing completely overloaded my MacBook. The specs are 2017 MacBook Pro, 8gb ram. Which model do you suggest I get to run all this sufficiently? The expansion chassis isn’t available either-would that help at all?

Do you guys ever use Netgear 10G & 1G switches?... or do you leave that strictly for your IT employees/contractors?

It is very interesting.

I have time off. Would you be able to meet and give me a tour of your setup by any chance. lol. Going on a big whim.

Excellent as always. Is it correct that ProPresenter/ATEM Control manage the program stream and you don't use Ecamm or V-mix type software? Even my high end MacBook Pro struggles to stream 2 consecutive services with software based switching/encoding and will absolutely investigate this approach.

@ta04trf

3 жыл бұрын

+1 for ATEM mini pro ISO. Much better solution than software based switching.

How are you getting enough gain before feedback off of your pastor? I notice he stays pretty far off the mic.

Hi Jake, great video. My church is interested in the 12x12. We've got nearly the same build you've got there. We're struggling choosing a video standard to use. Our DLRS cameras output at 29.94 fps, BM switcher picks them up at 1080p30 so thats fine. But our Sony xd-cam only outputs in 24 or 60. And our PTZ cannot do 1080p60 with BM switcher because they have different SDI generations/standards. 2 vs 3 I think? Anyway, the 12x12 doesn't do any converting, does it? I am reading that it is inputting any standard. Great! but does it just through put, or does it convert to get to the right frame rates that the BM switcher will be happy with?

Do you use the ATEM switcher to overlay your ProPresenter feed onto your video feed?

Hey, i have a question about livestream and camera control. I've seen loads of video about being able to control your camera settings over SDI....i have the Atem 1 M/E production 4k and i want to be able to send a return signal to the pocket micro 4k studio camera(long name). Do i need to buy a separate unit to enable this function coz my unit has very limited outputs to camera?

Excellent work. I don't see why this setup would not be good for churches that rarely need portability. With front and back removed from the Gator box, is there any cooling issues?

@Churchfront

3 жыл бұрын

We haven't had any cooling issues. We do meet in a nice climate controlled space, so there may be issues if you meet outside in hot weather. But most of the gear in the rack has dedicated cooling fans.

Whew I'm a techie and that's a lot of info lol

Do you have a link to the LTE Modem you mentioned?

Would love to see a breakdown of each module in this rack

Thanks for the video as always! But I do have some wonderings.. Not to burst your bubble but is the Smart Videohub really necessary for what you're doing? I don't know for sure but I'm fairly confident you could go directly out of the switcher using SDI ports 1-4 to supply those extra program feeds for the LCD, Hyperdeck and Resi encoder. According to what I've read the SDI output ports are designed to feed into Blackmagic cameras for remote camera control but they also can work as PGM feed distribution. I don't know that for sure though, if you happen to do a test I'd love to know if those ports work for PGM feeds. As for the main ProPresenter feed, you could route that into the switcher and out the AUX out to your stage display. This also adds the flexibility of being able to switch camera feeds into stage displays for IMAG if needed.

@matthewbaxter5120

3 жыл бұрын

Could also go PGM out to HyperDeck, with SDI A out to Smartview and B to encoder, or out Smartview to encoder (or encoder to Smartview if you have one with SDI out). I always try to get my monitor as close to the end as possible so I'm watching what my devices are receiving not just what my switcher is sending.

@flefer506

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewbaxter5120 Ahhh yeah that makes sense! I forgot the Hyperdeck has outputs as well.

How do you convert all your hdmi to sdi?

Did Sonnet fix the ethernet PCI so it works with Dante or are you still using a USB to ethernet?

Is there another option to the Smart Videohub that has both HDMI and SDI inputs?

If yes let me know

Thats funny we recently did the same thing except with an audio snake and RF Units as well, all on wheels lol.