Just for fun: Lightning McQueen aerodynamic

@Sauci55on

27 күн бұрын

With or without his tongue sticking out ?

@ibrahimrabbani3201

27 күн бұрын

@@Sauci55on both 😁

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

Lol.

@Ferrari255GTO

25 күн бұрын

Peak content right here, who needs cannards and a splitter when you can have a tonge in your car?

The Mercedes 190e Evo II had a body kit that BMW thought wouldn't work. It did and the legend says BMW redesigned their wind tunnel. I really want to see a sim on that!

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

Thanks for the idea! We'll see if we can get a good model of it.

Fascinating analysis, but you overlooked one big thing...that's not the Porsche "Whale Tail" spoiler. That's the "Tea Tray", which encloses the intercooler on the 3.3L version of the 930 (starting 1978). The non-intercooled 1975-1977 3.0L 930, along with some naturally aspirated models like the 911SC (as an optional extra) had the "Whale Tail", which is much thinner because it is not enclosing a large volume between the upper surface and what would otherwise be the decklid. The largest version of the "Whale Tail" was on the 1974-1975 Carrera RSR 3.0 racing version of the 911.

@PremierAerodynamics

24 күн бұрын

Thanks for the info. They look really similar. The only difference I can really tell by eye is the end plates.

@TheBumpking

24 күн бұрын

Yes, the tail to act as a fairing, but also as an intake for the intercooler which is not considered in the CFD calculation and could drastically change the results. I'm actually a little surprised because I always believed that this grille was there to extract the air coming out of the intercooter like on an F40. But looking more closely, the pattern of the grid and the engine bay layout shows that it's an intake. 🤔

The whale tail wasn't removed on the newer Turbo models, on aircooled 964 and 993 it still covered large intercooler sitting on top of the engine, and on later Watercooled generations the overall shape of the car is greatly improved and rear spoiler (it's a spoiler and not a wing airfoil) has been repositioned and reshaped more efficiently, paired with active aero and to this day a very important piece of 911 Turbo styling and aero

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

It's more like a tadpole tail.

Yes, we need Lightning McQueen aero

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

Lol!

@m.b.82

24 күн бұрын

​@@PremierAerodynamics You must do this

okay, can't wait to see the modern one.

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

We have that one on the to-do list.

The 1951-53 Hudson Hornet would be a good one. They were incredibly streamlined for their era, one of the first NASCAR legends and one managed to hit 120+ mph at bonneville with only 210 or so horsepower. Seems like it has pretty good aero.

@PremierAerodynamics

24 күн бұрын

Thanks for the idea! We'll see if we can get a good CAD model of it to do.

Nice!! I always wandered how that spoiler worked. Could you try to measure the TVR sagaris aerodynamics in the future??

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

Good idea! We'll see if we can get a good model of it.

People tuning the 930 after hearing it just needs the slantnose + reworked diffuser and wing:

@PremierAerodynamics

23 күн бұрын

Those would make a big difference.

@fredphilips5320

23 күн бұрын

Flachbau: "Am i a joke to you?"

Im not an aerodynamicist, but I’m a Vfx artist working in Houdini and spend a lot of time looking at slices of voxel fluid/smoke sims like this. Love your channel, wish I had time to learn physically grounded software like this for farting around with 😊

Something I notice commonly, is that this model (the tea-tray) and the whale tail get misidentified. If possible, it would be interesting to see if the true whale tale was able to fix any of the issues you pointed out with the tea tray, especially the lack of end plates and the widened surface area. Excellent video!

@PremierAerodynamics

19 күн бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. We'll put the whale tail on the to-do list. Thanks!

I want to see the mazda rx8 🤔 I have been wondering about the arches over the wheels and how that can make drag and this video further solidifies my theory

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

Thanks for the idea! We'll put it on the to-do list, but it might take a couple of months to simulate and post-process.

Maan i can't get enough of these videos!

@PremierAerodynamics

24 күн бұрын

Thanks man! Happy you like them.

Would be good to do a complete comparison with a wingless 930, then please do a 240 and a 242 bertone

@PremierAerodynamics

25 күн бұрын

Yep, we have other 911s on the way.

Great video ;]

@PremierAerodynamics

24 күн бұрын

Thanks man!

Hey, a big reason for the fluid flow on the upper part of the car is the naturally aspirated engine and the big wing would open space for the intakes leading to the engine, that's cool (correct me if I'm wrong)

@PremierAerodynamics

21 күн бұрын

That might be one way of getting air into the intakes. I haven't had the chance to test different configurations of this, but if you remove the whale tail, you'd have faster moving flow around there and potentially a greater mass flow rate through the intakes. But, maybe the whale tail was a good compromise for them between the downforce needed and the air needed for the intakes.

Amazing video. Thought it would be AI generated from such a small channel but it was a nice surprise.

@PremierAerodynamics

10 күн бұрын

Thank you! Happy you liked it. Our videos are made by good old fashion brains.

Please do the BMW E46 M3 CSL! Really interested to see how the front splitters, duckbill trunk, and rear lower diffuser panel BMW added contributed to reduced lift compared to the base M3

@PremierAerodynamics

18 күн бұрын

Thanks for the idea! We'll see if we can get a good CAD model of it. If we can, then we will.

I wonder how much of the bodywork changes on the RUF CTR contributed to it being able to do 342kph in 1987. I suppose it using the narrow variant of the 911 body was a significant contribution.

@PremierAerodynamics

10 күн бұрын

There were quite a few improvements. The air dam seems better and the wheel arches aren’t nearly as flared, for example. The ride height seems lower which is better for downforce and hitting higher speeds.

I was just thinking, what happens, when you get more and more views and thus a lot more suggestions, of what car or other object you should test next. I believe, you would need a team of people setting all the simulations up. And you would, more and more, be the voice of the channel, because you would be pushing out multiple videos a day to keep up with the thousands of different cars and other things.

@PremierAerodynamics

25 күн бұрын

I have thought about it...and I've decided that I'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Lol.

Would love to see your analysis of a VA WRX STI to see if the rear wing is effective.

@PremierAerodynamics

23 күн бұрын

We have the WRX on the to-do list. It would be cool considering just how popular it was.

Would love to see some motorcycle aerodynamic

@PremierAerodynamics

24 күн бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. We've been thinking about it and just need to figure out how to do the rider.

I would like to see the bugatti tourbillon when a model is available, crazy diffuser and aero stuff there

@PremierAerodynamics

24 күн бұрын

Thanks for the idea! We'll definitely do it when the model comes out.

This car got absolutely murdered by drag in Forza games, to the point where the ‘69 Boss Mustang can reach comparable speeds with similar power💀 Also I would suggest testing something like the Mclaren F1 or Corvette C5 if they are not already on your list👍

@PremierAerodynamics

23 күн бұрын

The McLaren F1 is coming out this Sunday. And the Corvette is on the to-do list. Thanks for the idea!

I’ve always liked the car so if it’s possible to find a model of a lotus m100, could you do a test on it

@PremierAerodynamics

25 күн бұрын

Thanks for the idea. We're trying to find a good model of it.

Do the miata ! (pretty please)

@PremierAerodynamics

20 күн бұрын

We can't really find any good models of it. The best ones are just blocky and not that realistic. There are a couple we can find that are good but the CAD models cost a lot.

I would be interested in the aerodynamics of the s1 Jaguar e-type.

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

Thanks for the idea! We'll see if we can get a good model of it.

I wish the whale tail was still available as an option

@PremierAerodynamics

21 күн бұрын

I think due to emissions standards, the addition of a whale tail wouldn't be an option.

@kentavirus2100

11 күн бұрын

the 992 turbo S has a wing part of its optional aerokit that looks somewhat like the 930 tea tray but scaled down. the last generation to have a giant raised decklid is the 993 from almost 30 years ago.

would like to see nissan GT-R LM nismo aero, curious to see the effect of the aero tunnel

@PremierAerodynamics

24 күн бұрын

We have the GTR on the to-do list. Thanks for the suggestion.

@AmirAnuar

24 күн бұрын

@@PremierAerodynamics great, can't wait for it.

I was just wondering how you got the drag and stuff, do you just import an object and point the wind direction? And what software is this? I have some ideas (drag coefficient and visible airflow of a banana at 273MPH)

@PremierAerodynamics

25 күн бұрын

We use the CFD software called OpenFOAM (in the link in the description, we have courses on how to learn it). We've done a banana before (kzread.info/dash/bejne/lY5-y9SaZMS9lbQ.html), but not at that high a speed. Lol.

can you do the mg ex 181 next?

@PremierAerodynamics

25 күн бұрын

That's a cool car. We'll see if we can get a good model of it. If we can, then we wil.

Can you do the aero test with the '76 Deville?

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

Thanks for the idea. I think we already have that one on the to-do list.

@PremeirAerodynamics : I sent you an email with a question about mesh limit size.

0.38 ? Quite surprising, after all said, I was expecting around 0.40

@PremierAerodynamics

23 күн бұрын

They both pretty close. I mean, 20 counts is within the CFD uncertainty usually, and depending on the wheels, that could easily make that difference.

Did they have any simulation methods at that time?

@PremierAerodynamics

21 күн бұрын

Back then, not really. At best, just panels methods, which wouldn't be that good for this situtation.

Can you do a 3rd gen honda prelude?

@PremierAerodynamics

22 күн бұрын

Thanks for the idea! We can try to find a good model of one.

can we see a mazda rx7 next

@PremierAerodynamics

22 күн бұрын

It might take us a few weeks to do because it takes a while to simulate, then process, and then make the video.

Can you do a modern 911 now to compare ?

@PremierAerodynamics

24 күн бұрын

Definitely, the modern 911 is on the to-do list.

@funnyshorts6830

24 күн бұрын

@@PremierAerodynamics nice, it will be cool to see how much it has evolved.

is there a decent free simulator for drag, downforce and vortices for hobbyist 3d modelers who just want to fuck around?

@PremierAerodynamics

23 күн бұрын

There is one called OpenFOAM. It is good, but quite complex to learn. We have courses teaching people how to use OpenFOAM.

What about the bumper without the bumper lip

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

Do you mean the front spoiler? The front spoiler is doing a lot to make the underbody produce good downforce. If you remove it, you would lose a lot.

Wait, what's the cd for a poke in the eye?

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

More than the Porsche 911 turbo.

I have a genuine question, what is the name of the simulation? Is it free or only for professional use?

@PremierAerodynamics

21 күн бұрын

It's OpenFOAM. It is complete free and good, but hard to learn.

can you make the music a little less loud next time, or no music so i can play my own

@PremierAerodynamics

26 күн бұрын

Man I love me a lotus, so we'll see if we can get a good model of it.

Ok now do a more normal car mayyybeeee like a 2002 Subaru Impreza wagon wrx? (Pls I wanna know how my cars aero is haha)

@PremierAerodynamics

25 күн бұрын

We have the regular WRX on our to-do list, but we'll see about the wagon version.

@crunchysoup406

25 күн бұрын

@@PremierAerodynamics WOOOOO

What speed is drag coefficient calculated at

@PremierAerodynamics

21 күн бұрын

20 meters per second. (72 kph / 45 mph)

@udpbooter

21 күн бұрын

@@PremierAerodynamics thanks i play a game called automation and the faster you go the higher the drag coef is and doing realistic build created some confusion

@PremierAerodynamics

20 күн бұрын

Cool. I hadn't heard of that game before. Can you test your car in a wind tunnel or something?

@udpbooter

20 күн бұрын

@@PremierAerodynamics no but it does drag calculations based on the body you choose, as well as undertrays, diffusers, spoilers, splitters

This explains why the Porsche 911 Turbo has a pretty low top speed in Forza.

@fredphilips5320

23 күн бұрын

On GT7 the stock top speed is 288 km/h, with a four speed transmission.

@PremierAerodynamics

22 күн бұрын

That's pretty fast...I guess.

Could I “commission” a car I like?

@PremierAerodynamics

24 күн бұрын

Sure, did you want us to send you the video just for you, or put it onto our KZread channel?

@crashlanding6997

24 күн бұрын

@@PremierAerodynamics uploaded to KZread would be best. How much would you ask?

@PremierAerodynamics

24 күн бұрын

What car are you interested in? Because if we need to pay for the CAD model, then we have to include that cost.

@crashlanding6997

24 күн бұрын

@@PremierAerodynamics that makes sense. I was interested in the Mercedes Benz SL65 AMG Black Series. I don’t know how much CAD costs but I’ll be honest I just really like the car and I think the most I could pay is 20$ USD. Thanks for taking the time to write back.

@PremierAerodynamics

23 күн бұрын

Really? That's a coincidence because that is one of my favourite cars too - the SL line in general. So, I think I can find a good model of it for free. So, I simulate that and it should be finished and processed within a few weeks. I'll upload the video and if you like it, you can donate $10 if you like?

It's funny because wealthy people are called whales.

Thats a horrible 930 Model, Very Inaccurate

@toddthezondalover645

25 күн бұрын

How

@crashlanding6997

24 күн бұрын

@@toddthezondalover645 it might be the wheel arches looking like they protrude outwards more than they really might in that top view

Hi, your videos are amaizing do you have discord server?

@PremierAerodynamics

24 күн бұрын

Thanks! We don't, but we've been thinking about it...personally, I don't know much about discord. What would be the main benefit for you and our other amigos watching? What would you like us to use discord for? Thanks for the idea.

Im not an aerodynamicist, but I’m a Vfx artist working in Houdini and spend a lot of time looking at slices of voxel fluid/smoke sims like this. Love your channel, wish I had access to physically grounded software like this for farting around with 😊

@PremierAerodynamics

20 күн бұрын

Thanks! Maybe we could help. I mean, we have a lot of sims of different cars, and more coming. So, we can work together if it suits you.