Porsche 911 R vs 911 GT3 manual l Top Gear

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The Porsche 911 R and GT3 share the same 493bhp output and fine manual gearbox. But which is best? And - ultimately - does it matter? Over to Ollie Marriage…

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  • @justynkevlar3031
    @justynkevlar30316 жыл бұрын

    Long live the manual transmission.

  • @chriswilliams2305
    @chriswilliams23056 жыл бұрын

    The grin pasted on his mug while rowing the gears in the gt3 is priceless. Pure, authentic joy and pleasure. Like he said, ' what a way to wake up in the morning.'

  • @mikewilson1957
    @mikewilson19576 жыл бұрын

    Save yourself a quarter of a million and take the gt3 its a no brainer!!!

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    mike wilson brilliant and true

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    mike wilson the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!

  • @RB-xv4si

    @RB-xv4si

    4 жыл бұрын

    Brian Himmelman how does the GT3 not already come with a lithium battery? Even my F80 M3 comes standard with a lithium battery.

  • @philips6182

    @philips6182

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree the crazy premium on 911R isn’t worth it in my opinion. I’d rather take the much cheaper gt3 which revs all the way to 9 compared to the 8.5 of the 911R. I personally prefer the look of the gt3 with the wing but if you don’t like the wing get the touring which is still much cheaper than the 911R

  • @Pjmperez01

    @Pjmperez01

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RB-xv4si dont propagate lies. No F80 M3 have those very light lithium batteries stock, unless you bought it as a used car and the previous owner changed the battery. Im a previous owner of a F80 M3 and theres no option with lithium batts fr the US and Euro tick boxes.

  • @jrichey73
    @jrichey735 жыл бұрын

    The GT3 Touring gets my vote! Remarkable car.

  • @ZZGTKING
    @ZZGTKING6 жыл бұрын

    991.2 sounds like a magic

  • @marcovanni1851
    @marcovanni18516 жыл бұрын

    GT3 sounds so much better and the RS variant is my favorite :)) Beautiful morning and country side!

  • @diogoleitao8628
    @diogoleitao86284 жыл бұрын

    You couldn’t say any better ! It’s lovely to know that Porsche still builds cars like this 🏆👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @WorldCarstv

    @WorldCarstv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah 😍

  • @shawnbeckman3020
    @shawnbeckman30206 жыл бұрын

    A camera pointed at the road would have made this 10x better of a video...

  • @TreasureHuntGame001

    @TreasureHuntGame001

    6 жыл бұрын

    Shawn Beckman Totally agree

  • @maurizioarrivabene8182

    @maurizioarrivabene8182

    4 жыл бұрын

    Right. I dont want to look at a bald middle aged guy

  • @StigRossi

    @StigRossi

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@maurizioarrivabene8182 ok boomer

  • @crashyyy4116

    @crashyyy4116

    4 жыл бұрын

    video's free. film it yourself next time

  • @robbae9307
    @robbae93075 жыл бұрын

    would take a GT3 touring over a 911R, I just think it looks much nicer

  • @investmenttudor1659
    @investmenttudor16596 жыл бұрын

    All this talk of how nice the 911R shifts gear etc. becomes a bit academic when you know that, as a result of this model price went sky high, the majority of the 911R will just sit in some garages and collect dust...

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    investment tudor the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!

  • @ziggyfreud5357

    @ziggyfreud5357

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. The R is/is not a drivers car as it will never be driven except for a few brief moments to do a comparo for U Tube :(

  • @HashemSmashem
    @HashemSmashem6 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful sounds. I also love seeing the headlights on the 911 R swivel when you turn the steering wheel.

  • @TheGel69
    @TheGel696 жыл бұрын

    why would you spend >$300K for a used R when you can get a new GT3 touring for half the monies?

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Guillaume Laplanche the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!

  • @ziggyfreud5357

    @ziggyfreud5357

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes BH. Done exactly that to my first and prob only RS and on the track with those valves open it is virtually a cup car. And I challenge anyone to be able to pick the diff in the sound at full tilt :) Oh and by the way GL, stuff the monies !

  • @NineHellHeaven

    @NineHellHeaven

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@brianhimmelman420 don't make the same response to different comments

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yas Hamdi USA

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NineHellHeaven shut up

  • @enlilannunaki9064
    @enlilannunaki90643 жыл бұрын

    He said he’d take the R over the GT3, yet watching the video he clearly was having more fun in the GT3.

  • @docmarc36

    @docmarc36

    Жыл бұрын

    Right… hie reason… “because it’s so iconic”…. 😂😂😂 (collectible) That’s not a valid reason if comparing the joy of driving, which his face admitted the GT3 was it.

  • @engjoo
    @engjoo5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Reminds me of the days I would wake up early just to go driving.

  • @tfrowland
    @tfrowland4 жыл бұрын

    I think there are reasons why you’d choose a PDK over a manual gearbox. If you’d given up on life, for example.

  • @timcasey5835
    @timcasey58356 жыл бұрын

    It’s such a shame that any comparisons with a 911 R are shrouded by the fact you can’t buy one, ostensibly. The real world price difference between these two is so huge that comparing one for the other is a moot point, sadly.

  • @timcasey5835

    @timcasey5835

    6 жыл бұрын

    the answer is a GT3 touring with a manual box.

  • @martingetliffe

    @martingetliffe

    6 жыл бұрын

    .

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Timothy Casey Guillaume Laplanche the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!

  • @darrylmak1490
    @darrylmak14906 жыл бұрын

    Can we have a comparison between the 911R and GT3 Touring?

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Darryl Mak the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!

  • @Mojo522

    @Mojo522

    5 жыл бұрын

    911R for me, please. Although I think you're 100% correct, the true question is 911R or GT3 Touring?

  • @arnauddupuis2496

    @arnauddupuis2496

    5 жыл бұрын

    agree@@brianhimmelman420

  • @cutdepiefails6596

    @cutdepiefails6596

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly the same differences but slightly less power, torque and induction noise and more nervous at speed (this compared to the gt3 here).

  • @HoratioHoodoo

    @HoratioHoodoo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ugh it's just a spoiler delete

  • @MindDezign
    @MindDezign6 жыл бұрын

    I tptally agree both can "KEEP " ...A SMILE ON OUR FACE...!

  • @dme28
    @dme282 жыл бұрын

    lovely review, I like it 👍

  • @zd8202ap
    @zd8202ap6 жыл бұрын

    GT3 😎👍🏻

  • @rickdorsey1696
    @rickdorsey16966 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video

  • @rogerivy2919
    @rogerivy29195 жыл бұрын

    great review.

  • @johnkodera9926
    @johnkodera99263 жыл бұрын

    The sound footage of the 911R is one of the greatest sounds I've ever heard. At least from the footage you captured, it sounds like the R has a smoother tone to it than the GT3, slightly less rasp.

  • @jinlim9384
    @jinlim93846 жыл бұрын

    gt3 touring period. cheaper with 500rpm redline higher at 9000rpm

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    History will show the Touring as rare car as most will get driven and not collected like R

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jin Lim Guillaume Laplanche the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!

  • @niloticone7661
    @niloticone76615 жыл бұрын

    Most excellent video 👍

  • @csf2970
    @csf29704 жыл бұрын

    Any Porsche fan on the first minutes of the video, so this is how heaven looks like...

  • @allensaunders449
    @allensaunders4495 жыл бұрын

    Film the road ahead when driving. Straight out the front windshield

  • @smileybear420
    @smileybear4205 жыл бұрын

    Does the 911r have the same length wheelbase as the 991.2 gt3?

  • @ahmedabdi5980
    @ahmedabdi5980 Жыл бұрын

    If the 911R wasn't so "iconic" & hard to get because of collectors I don't think anyone would claim is better than a GT3 (Touring), but because the R is so hard to get people want it even more. That's how we humans are. We want what we can't get. That's what's happening now to the GT3 Touring as well. Even the reviewer only reason towards the end of choosing the R over the GT3 was because the R is so "iconic" & not because it is a better car. Tells you a lot about how collectors & speculators can create a hype that can drive the price of a car ridiculously high even though it's never been worth that price in the first place

  • @th3orist
    @th3orist6 жыл бұрын

    If it's just a car for having the occasional blast with it on the weekends on nice flowing roads, then definitely the 911 R. If it's fun on the weekends and also occasional track fun then PDK 911 GT3 or GT3 RS. Down the line of time i think the R will be the more special car though and therefor better value.

  • @julianalbisu7600
    @julianalbisu7600 Жыл бұрын

    "Absolutely bananas".... most british thing of all time

  • @JoJoJoker
    @JoJoJoker6 жыл бұрын

    I would have asked for the keys to that 959!

  • @Alexr-uf3zn
    @Alexr-uf3zn6 жыл бұрын

    Suddenly my civic type r seems quite shite lol I’d be happy with either of these two

  • @junboloy
    @junboloy4 жыл бұрын

    Are the GT3 a limited addition ?

  • @martywild8200
    @martywild82005 жыл бұрын

    Is that a GT1 Evo? Look at the state of it, where was this? I'd have been in 7th heaven.

  • @alexng8679
    @alexng86796 жыл бұрын

    How abt engines? He didnt compare the attributes of the 2 engines at all...

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Alex Ng GT3 engine is epic

  • @MrCutFolks7
    @MrCutFolks75 жыл бұрын

    911 R is no slouch, it’s a really Good!

  • @KIckAssPinball
    @KIckAssPinball5 жыл бұрын

    The 911R is a great car but the GT3 is the car to own. The PDK hands down is the gear box to have. I've had both and PDK is bullet proof and just better. Is it fun to manually shift? Sure but PDK is wonderful!

  • @Powaup
    @Powaup6 жыл бұрын

    I like this guy

  • @gabbygumdrop28
    @gabbygumdrop284 жыл бұрын

    Ya idgaf I want a 911 R lol. The interior is beeeeeautiful and ugh it’s such a timeless car. That is my dream car!!! I have seen so many gt3/rs, gt2s, but never a 911 R. I love old Carreras and I think the R is the perfect split between old and new.

  • @danielbosoc1
    @danielbosoc13 жыл бұрын

    Any 911 Carrera with manual, GT3 with PDK.

  • @slowpoke7888
    @slowpoke78886 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't have the GT3 because of that bit of fluff stuck in the badge.

  • @markjurczyk

    @markjurczyk

    6 жыл бұрын

    Don't worry, you will never have GT3, Honda has your name all over it........

  • @slowpoke7888

    @slowpoke7888

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @yvesgysel9834
    @yvesgysel98344 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the GT3 RS for the track and the 911 turbo s for the road. The Turbo is unbelievable fast, but is more comfortable for road trips, while the 911 GT3 RS just begs you constantly to floor it.

  • @ricsu3462
    @ricsu34626 жыл бұрын

    u are not going to get the gt3 or 911r at msrp sticker. Do u still think they are a bargain for the money for 10-20% more?

  • @henningptr2400

    @henningptr2400

    5 жыл бұрын

    That might be the case in the usa but in germany ,netherlands or poland you easily get a discount of 3-7% on a brand new gt3.

  • @limpunsing224
    @limpunsing2246 жыл бұрын

    Exclusivity & character makes the 911 R shine above all 911 so far

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bong Lim agree, but for 40% cost the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!

  • @richardwatts9093
    @richardwatts9093 Жыл бұрын

    You preferred the R due to the kudos 💁🏿‍♂️

  • @7litres
    @7litres3 жыл бұрын

    Not sure I totally believe you’d take the R and turn down the GT3. Im willing to believe the 911R is the nicest and most compliant to drive on English roads, but when did that have anything to do with it? I own a 427 big block Cobra and it’s a complete absurdity.....which is why I love it 😀

  • @taforth
    @taforth6 жыл бұрын

    The GT3 has a way better engine though. I wonder how much the valuation affected his opinion...

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Terry Forth the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!

  • @alanwayte432

    @alanwayte432

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well Terry your Vauxhall Astra is valued at £500 so how does that effect your opinion

  • @taforth

    @taforth

    5 жыл бұрын

    Alan Wayte Do you feel better now? BTW, they don’t sell Vauxhalls where I live…

  • @easyeagle3730
    @easyeagle37304 жыл бұрын

    Every 911 deserves a [rear seat delete] option!

  • @michaelj.kastner5165
    @michaelj.kastner51656 жыл бұрын

    He isn’t stuck in traffic, of course he would take the manual!! Da!!! I prefer Mr Purple!! Until the 992 is released

  • @cutsomeone
    @cutsomeone5 жыл бұрын

    "lime lemon are". -subtitles

  • @alainthegenus1656
    @alainthegenus16563 жыл бұрын

    Damnn you 😭😭😭I just had to press play

  • @w-james9277
    @w-james92776 жыл бұрын

    If only the 911R had had the GT3 engine.

  • @oscardominguez1680

    @oscardominguez1680

    6 жыл бұрын

    W-James It has the 991.1 RS engine!

  • @w-james9277

    @w-james9277

    6 жыл бұрын

    Which is not as good as the .2 engine.

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    W-James you are correct ... 991.2 upgraded

  • @ziggyfreud5357

    @ziggyfreud5357

    6 жыл бұрын

    True. But can you tell the difference? I think that the mid range in the .1 sounds better and the top end in both sounds pretty much the same. My ear can't pick 200rpm. It's over so rapidly.

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    wrong .2 sound better all day long

  • @erekreket7535
    @erekreket75352 жыл бұрын

    manual transmission ❤️😍

  • @allensaunders449
    @allensaunders4495 жыл бұрын

    The 911R cost alot more then a gt3. Even without the inflated after market prices

  • @ziggyfreud5357
    @ziggyfreud53576 жыл бұрын

    Give me the bananas PDK GT3RS please.

  • @tsneil
    @tsneil6 жыл бұрын

    Where’s Chris Harris?

  • @michaelj.kastner5165

    @michaelj.kastner5165

    6 жыл бұрын

    Terence Neil lost in space

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Terence Neil driving his black with gold wheels GT3 Touring ... he said there is no car he would rather drive today

  • @easyeagle3730
    @easyeagle37306 жыл бұрын

    It’s a question with simple to answer. Would you rather tell people you own the special limited edition 911R or a GT3? Duh.... The 911R

  • @MzRtS12
    @MzRtS125 жыл бұрын

    too bad it wasn't compared to the 911 GT3 Touring 🤷‍♀️

  • @Abhishek-150
    @Abhishek-1506 жыл бұрын

    Why you driving on left side?

  • @MrBlackMarvel

    @MrBlackMarvel

    5 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @NDakota79
    @NDakota795 жыл бұрын

    Why would anyone ever need to chose between those two cars? No one will ever be able to buy a 911 R anyway.

  • @ericdavis4469
    @ericdavis44694 жыл бұрын

    the R and the gt3 touring=same thing. Id be pissed if I bought an R at a premium

  • @princessannabelle0757
    @princessannabelle07574 жыл бұрын

    Automatic Transmission

  • @brianhimmelman420
    @brianhimmelman4205 жыл бұрын

    991.2 GT3 Touring all day long

  • @Ididntaskforahandleyoutube
    @Ididntaskforahandleyoutube3 жыл бұрын

    I don't like either because they are simply too uncomfortable. I'm simply to large of a human being to sit in those seats and not want to kill myself. Edit: I think those huge wings look like shit. Okay, I'm done complaining.

  • @istanbul-zc3eu
    @istanbul-zc3eu3 жыл бұрын

    Take the gt3 and change gears at 9000rpms

  • @ashman0071
    @ashman00716 жыл бұрын

    Any 911 variant with a PDK is a poser's car. Why not get a 964 or, dare I say it, a 993 with a manual.....?

  • @jdord4838
    @jdord48386 жыл бұрын

    Great vid and overview..."Yeshua (Jesus Christ) is the way the truth and the life"

  • @scuddryvr8784

    @scuddryvr8784

    6 жыл бұрын

    Proof?

  • @1seipai
    @1seipai6 жыл бұрын

    You'd hardly be jealous if you had a 911R since you'd know it's worth about three times as much as a 991.2 GT3! 😏

  • @Gautam454

    @Gautam454

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not anymore mate...

  • @1seipai

    @1seipai

    6 жыл бұрын

    G Really? Check AutoTrader. There are 4 from £364 to £425k. Seems a lot to me.

  • @zaheerkader7426

    @zaheerkader7426

    6 жыл бұрын

    No longer the case.. You'd have to be the dimmest plonker to pay that premium money for an R when the manual gt3 is the superior car

  • @brianhimmelman420

    @brianhimmelman420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Zaheer Kader GT3 manual really has moved the goal posts ... many R owners posting fake comparisons to rationalize “investment”

  • @zaheerkader7426

    @zaheerkader7426

    6 жыл бұрын

    Brian Himmelman I think they feeling the pain after Paying 500k pounds or more for their Rs... Hyping the car is best they can do but word is out.. Manual gt3 touring is the dogs nads and they going to take a 400k bath on the R

  • @kuken166
    @kuken1666 жыл бұрын

    Great cars, bad review

  • @yokoreia
    @yokoreia6 жыл бұрын

    Poor quality video

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