Polar Vantage V3 : Scientific Heart Rate Test
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00:00 Quick Intro
01:00 Heart Rate Test 1 : Indoor Cycling
05:40 Heart Rate Test 2 : Running
07:54 Heart Rate Test 3 : Outdoor Cycling
11:15 Heart Rate Test 4 : Weight Lifting
13:20 Recommendations & Conclusions
Over the last two weeks I’ve systematically tested the heart rate tracking performance of the new Polar Vantage V3, and the results are, well, disappointing to say the least(point). The Polar Vantage V3 is the first Polar watch with the new Generation 4 Optical Heart Rate sensor, so my expectations were high. In this video I’ll share the results of my initial scientific testing, and you can judge for yourself what you think of the results. I tested the Vantage V3 for indoor cycling, outdoor cycling, running and weight lifting for a total of 24 workouts and I’ll share all the results with you.
Hello everyone, for those of you that are new to the channel, my name is Rob and I am a postdoctoral scientist specializing in biological data analysis. In this video I will dive straight into the testing, and you can search for the specs on Polar’s website, so let’s get to it! First a disclosure: Polar did send me this watch for testing, but they did not have any influence on this video, and they did not get to see it before release. But I guess that will become clear when you see how the watch performed on me.
So, this doesn’t look too good for the Polar Vantage V3; for all exercises except weight lifting, the older Polar Watches did better than the Vantage V3 with the new sensor. Yes, some of these other watches are also lighter, but I don’t think that’s the issue here. I was even afraid it might have difficulty with my left wrist for some reason, so I also tried wearing the Vantage 3 on the other arm, and this didn’t make a difference. I hope that the new hardware in the V3 will prove to be superior to the old sensor, and that these are all issues that can be solved with updates over time. We have seen this for other brands. Still, the results I got were really surprising to me. I’ll also be testing the sleep stage tracking and GPS tracking of the Vantage V3, and I’ll share those results in my full review. Also, please watch some other reviewers, since these are just the results I got for my particular physiology.
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Cranking out a lot of reviews recently! I just realised it means you’ve been working out an insane amount as well. 😄 thanks for putting in the literal effort!
HlR monitoring in watches has made huge improvements in the last two years and I feel testing like you have been a massive contributor to that improvement. These results are astonishingly poor for an upper brand. Hope they can get it fixed.
@timeTegus
7 ай бұрын
when a 600$ watch has worse tracking then a 80$ watch x.x
@gauravthapa6060
7 ай бұрын
This channel is an eye opener! Every other metric that these watches/ tracker markets depend on upon accuracy of the sensors! No matter how cheap or expensive if the basics are not done right , I mean what's the point of selling them? Just for profits fooling consumers? Amazfit designs the best watches for budget but their sensors are crap and haven't learned anything over the years. Thankfully the Fitbit charge 6 made some progress recently, I think we owe TQS alot for impartial data based reviews which is the way it should be.
Wow! That's about the worst HR of the many you have tested recently. Looks like they've rushed it out before proper testing, relying on the 'new HR sensor'!
Great review. I have the Polar Vantage 3 since its release date. Also have other watches to compare. I think is good and accurate as Garmin Fenix 7pro and EPIX pro. Yesterday Polar updated the firmware so it would be really nice to have a revision review from your side to check out the results once again.
As someone who has considered getting this watch: I am shocked at the result. Thank you for your great work
@malokey7
7 ай бұрын
Me too lol.
@Pragmatist101
7 ай бұрын
Fact is Polar have lost their status as the most accurate HRM. By pursuing the wrist based OHR market they have made a bad mistake and simply lost to APPLE. All Polar's apps/functions (sleep monitoring, stress, calories etc) are now based on algorithms that are feed inaccurate HR ! So not trust worthy and as inaccurate as cheaper brands
@TheZlantan1926
7 ай бұрын
i am not shocked at all,i had the vantage v and it was a terrible device
Hi Rob, excellent review as always. It would be great if you could check it again in a few months because according to several videos I saw, the HR sensor got considerably worse in an update. It's really strange that Polar releases such a bad sensor
I wanted to thank you Bob for the reviews, as it helped me buy the watch I use in my workouts. Before I had an Amazfit T-Rex that had a problem with the GPS. As the problem was very serious, I had to buy another watch. It was after seeing the reviews here on your channel that I chose to buy the Huwaei GT-Runner. It was definitely a good choice. Thank you for your help.
There should be some sort of standardized test for these before allowing them into the market. I can't believe reputable companies are still selling new devices with such poor accuracy in practically 2024. And people keep buying them ?!
Hi, thanks for this amazing test and datas; were the recordings made after the software update?
I see Fenix 7 performing same as V3, but still that is consider to be top of the line. Surprising results for sure. I've been with Polar a long time and worn Polar Pacer Pro and had outstanding results. I really hope this improves as well. I have the H10 as well but I really enjoy to not have to use it for my runs.. Great video as always. Thanks!
Great stuff, really interesting to see. Btw do you plan to do the new ScanWatch 2 with the new sensors as well - christmas and black friday are around the corner, would be good to know all the options.
I would love to see an update on that watch. They pushed some software updates recently. Thank you for your great work. I keep buying stuff on Amazon over your link :). One suggestion: please present a comparison between various watches of the correlation (R) values for running, as running is probably the most common use case. Thank you!
Great Test! Can please you do this test again after some firmware updates?
Can't wait for indepth pixel 2 review
god video ! could you also make a video about the Polar Ignite 3 or does it have the same sensor? also can you test the sleep tracking of both polar watches?
Still waiting for your review on the new ScanWatch 2! Keep waiting since you are the best reviewer out there. TQ for your hard works!
As a Polar user of cheaper models this test blows my mind. How are such poor results possible? Can you do the sleeping test as well? Someone forward this to Polar.
@Pragmatist101
7 ай бұрын
Polar don't seem to care
Love the work you do. Here's a comment for algo engagement!
Hello. Nice video, pls tell me when the Huawei watch 4 review will be?
Polar went from pioneers to greedy imitators.
Please, amazfit balance
Please consider doing a test of the combination of a "simple" tracker (Xiaomi bands e.g.) and the "Sleep as Android" app. I am using this since several years and tried several smartwatches in parallel and my feeling was that the results of the app made much more sense (cycles etc.). But I have no fully neutralized setup as you have. Thank you.
Please tell me when there will be a full review of the pixel watch 2
I wonder whether Polar had an official comment on that. Do they acknowledge software/firmware issues? Hopefully this review will act as a kick on their butt to fix things.
Thanks for the review! How fast is the vantage v3 can track heart rate in daily wear? I have problem with ignite 3 and vantage v2, i have to wait minutes to get to the proper heart rate before I am doing workout.
I just started to watch but I wonder if you had the same results as Ray from DC Rainmaker, who had okay readings on an early prerelease firmware then trash after updating.
One thing DCR said in his review is that he had impressive HR performance on the previous firmware, but much worse performance with the latest update. He suspects they reduced the power draw of the sensor or something. Might be worth it to re-evaluate on a later firmware :s
@TheQuantifiedScientist
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Yes, I read his review to make sure others were also having similar experiences 😊.
@ZuikiaiANDco
7 ай бұрын
@@TheQuantifiedScientist I hope you will repeat your tests, if new firmware with fixed HR will appear... As such V3 failure could be last nail in Polar coffin...
Because of TQS Rob I bought a Polar H10. As excellent as this channel. I hope Polar can sort it out in their watches.
1:35 Hey what app(s) do you use to get real-time HFR displayed on your phones during cycling? I am unsure between the V3 and the Garmin FR965 which is able to fly me to the moon but unable to show a Zone 1-5 real-time dashboard during indoor cycling (Polar Flow does have that function).
Hey …really appreciate your work , helps many take a very informed buying decision. Could you Please do a review of ‘CMF WATCH’ by NOTHING
I’ve been wearing the V3 24*7 since November. After the early December update of firmware, it was worse. I’m thinking of going back to my V2 which was better. You would have thought Polar would have performed similar tests as yours prior to announcing the V3? Have they become Boeing to watches with flying doors in flight?
Do you have excel datas of already tested watches? I would like to compare all of them with every tested aspects.
Hi ! Your tests are great, will you test Amazfit Balance?
@thequantifiedscientist HRM during weightlifting - *Overall* Whoop is the most accurate for determining **strain** because it incorporates accelerometer data and uses Velocity-based training calculations. H10 may record the heart rate well or more accurate but heart rate alone cannot and does not correctly determine strain in weightlifting exercises! only VBT can. it's different for endurance training
Hi Rob, wondering if you are down to make a comparison between the H10 and the Magene h303. I've a buddy of mine that's telling wonders about that. Plus I'm a cheapo and where I'm those the h10 strap never get discounted, so I'm not confident enough to buy the magene and sitll waiting since forever for the polar to come down in price
So, after about 4 months passed away, DID polar improved the problem?
Could you please do a review of the ultrahuman ring air?
I must replace my Polar Ignite 2 as after almost 3 years (of continuous use) battery life has deteriorated so much that it doesn't last for more than 23km running. Because of this review, I am going to switch to another branch. That is a pity, because I like the Polar app and the Polar Ignite sleep score.
Would you be able to do tests on resting heart rate? This is the type of heart rate I typically use, to give a rough idea of my cardiovascular health.
Ironically, you can pair your H10 chestband to your V3, and the watch will record the H10 values. I do this with my Unite watch, which is useful because it gives you extra info in the app about calorie consumption.
Hello, i am on a fence on buying an apple watch or the H10 for monitoring my exercise, i do runs for 10km and play padel. Any tips on what would be better to monitor those things?
When do you plan to release the results for the Suunto Race?
I hope you are testing the Suunto Race now...
Any chance for Amazfit Balance ? It seems like it has been improved a lot.
Hi my question is which watch is better for me. I’m football player ⚽️ and I do extra training sessions like jogging, intervals, bike, swimming, gym or just play football. I’m wondering about polar pacer pro and forerunner 255. What do you think and maybe you’ve got some different option for me. Please respond 🙏
Would love to see Polar H10 compare to the actual HR test such as multi-leads ECG.
please, will you test Amazfit Balance?
I'd love a look at the Remi watch 3
Could you please do a review of the ultrahuman ring air Sleep tracking? (this device doesn't require a subscription like the Oura ring)
Pity- would have been good if the HR worked! Useful ECG. I'm still very pleased with my Polar Verity Sense and H10
Will you do the Scanwatch 2 soon?
I just want to know how your HR dips from 150+ to 80 in two minutes?! My HR would never...
For me it’s only Apple or huawei, I really want a good hr measurements. It’s disappointing how less watches do that right 😅now
Can you please make a video about the new ScanWatch 2?
Wait for the update. Should fix the blurring.
Polar probably doesn't test the sensors in new products against previous models. The brand has an excellent product, the H10, but it is clear that there is a gap between the development of both products.
is this something that can be changed with a firmware update? Or does this mean this watch is a dud and should not be purchased?
I like wearing luxury watches but i need a wearable thats not too big like bands or whoop that counts steps and gives me the right accurate readings of steps and heart rate, I dont know if you can help me with that, I really like the whoop but is there any way to make it count my steps please help
Please review Suunto Race 🙏🙏
Will you review new Garmin ECG heart monitor accuracy on fenix etc vs apple?
it still minibubbles how can apple lead even pro watches that are made for hr measurements..... maybe its square form?
@NostalgicMem0ries
7 ай бұрын
@@Knedlikplneji dont get why other brands cant just copy that sensor, it been out for many year, anyone can buy their products, deconstruct and check whats working so well...
1:26 each video starts with saying that polar h10 chest strap "can in general record heart rate very accurately". But why though? Can't it be that this device has major flaws. I feel like a test with 5 different trackers at the same time would be interesting to see what tracker deviates when and how.
@TheQuantifiedScientist
7 ай бұрын
Good question! There should be a pop-up card showing at that timestamp to a video where I discuss a scientific publication where they tested the h10 in different scenarios and found it better than the gold standard Holter ECG for HR during sports
Can you do next the cmf watch pro from nothing?
Well, you just saved me 600€. Thank you! Not buying polar vantage v3 until there's an update from polar. The performance is seriously pathetic for 600€.
could you please put brandnew amazfit balance to tests?
Hi, can u do a test for Garmin Instinct Crossover?
At the end of each video, will you say to us the 3 upcoming reviews that is in your mind ?
Will there soon be a test of Xiaomi Watch 2 Pro?
Maybe some updates will fix this V3 ?
Now Suunto Race 🎉
Polar would be better off re releasing the V800, I tried Vantage M and Pacer Pro and even Garmin Instinct 2X and I keep going back to the V800 paired with the H10 hr monitor. The V800 still has the most visible screen in any conditions, cool feature like taps and heart touch and the Polar Flow website is still the best for analysing your training sessions. Reviewers obsess over GPS tracking but none seem to test for an accurate and consistent pace speed, which is far more useful.
It was really good on the old firmware .... hopefully they fix this. It'd be a disaster if they leave it.
when xiaomi watch 2 pro ? i'm curious ! thx
Polar doesn’t give a discount for the V3 on Black Friday 😂
@TheQuantifiedScientist could u test casio DW-H5600
A test for the Xiaomi Watch 2 pro please 😢😢😢😢😢😢
What about Amazfit balance we are waiting
I was seriously considering this watch, but now I've completely lost interest. Thank you.
gw4 improve our results in 2023?
Please test Mibro GS pro
CMF by Nothing Watch Pro review please.
Considering their chest strap accuracy their watch isn't good.
Who else wants the full review for the Pixel Watch 2?! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
waiting for ultrahuman ring
redmi watch 3 test please 🥺
Hi, Thank you for presenting the data. Hearing your interpretation of the graph shown at 3:40, is it not fair to expect some of a lag? Considering that the H10 measures electrical activity and the optical sensor measures the pulse (cardiac output). Hence, there is likely to be a delay while the blood circulates to compensate for the increased demand, initially adjusting with vasoconstriction and then dilating when the stroke volume adjusts to the demand.
Suunto Race please
Coros Pace 3 pleeeeease 😭
It is already very clear that this man will never review any Casio watch with a heart rate sensor nor the Garmin Instinct 2X. What does he have against the Casio brand?
I have one exited experiment for you, put any fabric between all "smartwatches " and it will read for u all oxy ,heart rate ,bp ,etc. 😂 just cheating us my dear
Release a new watch after such a long wait, and than this poor results, not good for brand reputation …😮
Well apparently the Polar Vantage v3 and new Suunto Race both have a pretty bad optical HR sensors 😅
This must be a ai or software issue?
Están casi al mismo nivel que los amazfit
Why do manufacturers continue to bring out watches with terrible fitness tracking, the only reason I can imagine is that most people do not research and just buy watches for looks and brand. I am out of contract with my mobile this black Friday, so I will be going over to apple, I thought about Huawei but it would bug me that all the sleep functionality was pretend Mickey Mouse toy watch standard. Looks like a 15 plus with an SE watch for me.
so a polar watch with worse results than cheaper smart watches ?
pls test sleepon HST sleep2goSE unique finger tip sensor; records wake n1 n2 n3 rem; real time ahi bpm hrv spo2 during sleep; excellent app
What a shame. F for polar
what the hell is Polar doing?
@paypalmymoneydfs
7 ай бұрын
What everyone else in the space is doing, using useless optical HR sensors to profit