Did you find all three shinies? Whose your favorite Ghost Pokémon? If you enjoyed this video, subscribe because I'll be making more like it in the future. Thanks for watching!

@LemonLuke

Жыл бұрын

The shinies being: Magikarp (0:05), Girafarig (5:16), Banette (10:50). Favorite ghost pokemon is hands down Aegislash. Sure, it’s annoying to deal with in most tiers that it’s in, but I love it’s design and typing.

@sygiliph2495

Жыл бұрын

My personal favourite Ghost Types are Mismagius, Runerigus, and Lunala Those are just three. I have more, but then I'd be listing almost all Ghost Types.

@RoninCatholic

Жыл бұрын

My favorite Ghost Pokemon are Duskull, Haunter, Honedge, and Mimikyu in roughly that order. If Marowak and Ninetales had the Ghost typing they rightly should have from the start, those would be my top two.

@grimm_satisfaction1292

Жыл бұрын

My favorite Ghosts are Mismagius, Chandelure, Aegislash and the Sinistea and Yamask lines.

@liomanwhy

Жыл бұрын

I anticipated something like shiny Gengar tbh. That would've been cruel lmao! As for favorites... there are a lot. I think Mismagius and H Zorua line are my most favorite.

So fun fact about just how MANY poison types there were in generation 1: It took until not only generation 7, but USUM specifically with the release of Poipole and Naganadel, for post gen 1 generations to TIE with the amount of poison types introduced in generation 1 alone. 33 poison types were introduced in gen 1, and 33 was the amount released from gen 2-7, making it unimaginably more absurd they would slap that type on Gengar and undercut his one niche

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

That sounds like a fake fact, but I completely believe you. And more insane still, the type has always fucking sucked. It's like they made it so common to make up for the fact that it was so bad.

@iantaakalla8180

Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile, the only universally good Poison types are Gengar (who is basically built like a cardboardishly tanky special spammer), Toxapex (who is built like a wall), and Naganadel (who, as an Ultra Beast with a boosting move, does not mean anything), Nidoking (but only because it has a decent enough special stat with high powered moves with second effects and Sheer Force), Clodsire (which also is built like a tank thanks to it being based off of Quagsire), Venusaur (but only because it became the best Sun abuse r and it’s Poison moves do not take part in that), Sneasler (but only because it is overwhelmingly offensive like Gengar), Glimmora (even though it’s spike setting nature means that it not taking hits is not an issue), and many Poison/Dark types (which basically have one weakness). In other words, there are no good competitive Poison Pokémon where being Poison have contributed anything save the Poison/Dark types and that’s a quirk of the typing system. It is the exact inverse problem with Ice, where even though you may want an Ice type Pokémon, in the end you just want Ice type moves and any good Ice type Pokémon are basically good offensive Pokémon with the Ice type save Arctozolt and Alolan Ninetales, and Alolan Ninetales is only there as the fastest hail setter with Aurora Veil and Arctozolt the only good Slush Rush user. Cetitan does not count.

@michakoniecpolski5677

11 ай бұрын

Ur moms, poison is based type

@sirki2885

11 ай бұрын

@@GohLow so i couldnt believe it and decided to check it myself excluding megas he isnt wrong which is ridiculous... helps that like 80% of grass and 50% bug types had poison typing as well -_-

@VyperByteX

8 ай бұрын

In Gen 1 nearly every grass type had the poison type as a secondary typing. Tangela is the only one I can think of that didn't off the top of my head, They also all could be used to cheese the game with the badge boost glitch because they could also learn swords dance.

The best ghost move in Gen 1 was actually Night Shade because it could hit Normal types and Psychic types due to how buggy set damage moves were.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

Everyday, I learn a new thing that was broken in the generation 1 games.

@nicholasaugello2534

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't the damage of Night shade = to ur Level? So in a competitive setting ur hitting 50 power to 100 power and I don't think it got any more powerful when it hit Psychic types

@liamdell6319

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholasaugello2534 100 damage is still better than Lick, which one: has 20 power and sucks, and two: Night shade can hit both psychic and normal types because set damage moves ignored immunity. Seismic Toss and Sonic Boom could hit ghosts even though they're fighting and normal type respectively.

@Icemario87

Жыл бұрын

@@liamdell6319 Yep, I nightshaded until the PP ran out many times in Pokemon Red. I was relying on that with Haunter to defeat Sabrina. I specifically went to Lavender Town's tower to collect a Haunter for that fight. What a fool I was.

@gregorymirabella1423

11 ай бұрын

@@nicholasaugello2534 yeah, but fixed damage was really good in gen 1.

Man, Gengar has the coolest Gen 2 sprite ever. That black and purple coloration with piercing red eyes should had been his official appearance!

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

And Haunter's sprite is a really close 2nd place. They nailed how to make then look evil, then just never went back to it in future games.

@KhanMann66

Жыл бұрын

Probably because they made jinx black and got major backlash for it. That’s why many ghost Pokémon are purple instead of black.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

@@KhanMann66 They changed Jynx to a purple face in Gen 2, the same generation Gengar had its blackest sprite.

@emblemblade9245

11 ай бұрын

Modern gengar looks so bad, all its alternate forms have to overcompensate just to try to look as scary as GB Gengar

Dark type is also pretty weird. It has the exact same super effective coverage as Ghost. But they were made a Special type when introduced in Gen 2. What’s funny is that literally every Dark move introduced (like Bite, Crunch, Faint Attack) became Physical in Gen 4.

@raphaelkhoury218

11 ай бұрын

Wwhich is why dark pulse was introduced in gen 4, just to make a speacial dark tyoe move! Wow (got that from bulbapedia though)

@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon

8 ай бұрын

And wouldn't make more sense to be the other way around? With ghost being an ethereal evil creature while dark refers to pokemons with evil natures, the action of evil itself.

@elio7610

7 ай бұрын

Dark is almost like a replacement for ghost type, and Umbreon's counterpart, Espeon (a psychic type), would logically be a light type if light type existed so light type would somewhat be a replacement for psychic.

@naejimba

7 ай бұрын

Then on top of all of it, they made ghost and dark moves effective against the same types... which is just dumb. Plus Steel became the most powerful defensive type, meaning they created a much worse problem than the one they were trying to solve... which they then repeated with fairy types by making a worse problem than the one they were trying to solve. Whoever is in charge of these decisions has no idea what the hell they are doing.

@Qualicabyss

6 ай бұрын

​@naejimba fairy types are no where near as bad as steel types where(and kind of still are)

I don't mind the ghost type being rare, but I do find it annoying that despite only three Pokemon being ghost type at the time, they got a really big focus. At that point, just make enough ghost types to feasibly make a full team of 6 with. Anyway, my favorite Ghost Pokemon is Cursola. A bleached coral with a beautiful yet spooky and awesome design. It's so sad, but it's so cool.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting point. We got Lavender Town in the games that was all about being spooky, but there's only 2 ghosts you can encounter? It was very odd that they didn't add more to really push that vibe.

@1stCallipostle

Жыл бұрын

Cursola is just Very real. Ghosts in Pokemon is where they get randomly darker in tone, and that's one where they landed it

@CoralReaper707

Жыл бұрын

@@1stCallipostle That's why I adore Cursola, and ghost types in general. Ghost types are not afraid of getting grim.

@HalfDaft

11 ай бұрын

Banette is my fave pokemon, and its a really shame that ghosts are in a weird middle ground Also shout out to Runerigus as second fave ghost

@Shalakor

11 ай бұрын

@@HalfDaft I mean, thematically, ghosts being stuck in a middle ground does technically fit quite well. Hehe. ;>_>

This, Nidoqueen and Nidorina not breeding, Kangaskhan, and other such things from the early Gens, I will NEVER understand why Gamefreak doesn't fix these...

@TheReZisTLust

11 ай бұрын

Adults don't have time to breed, only work for ze kids 🤌

@Proclifo

11 ай бұрын

Also, they should've made Nidoran a single species once they introduced genders. That would've put the gen 1 dex at 150.

@balanc-joy9187

11 ай бұрын

@@Proclifo Yes, they should've, if it was possible back then. That, or done it by the time they did a similar thing with Espurr and Meowstic.

@99temporal

8 ай бұрын

Nidoqueen and nidoking don't breed IN CAPTIVITY They do breed in the wild

@dragonhunter2001

8 ай бұрын

@@ProclifoNah that’s ridiculous, they have different BSTs

Ghost types are (black?)mages in rpgs where they want to be in the background and throw curses and statuses while tanks are keeping the heat off of them. Also my favorite is of course bannette

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

That makes me feel even more confident about the Testament comparison. Especially in Guilty Gear +R - the game I showed them in - they have a bunch of tricks like curses and such.

@JJSquirtle

Жыл бұрын

We should give gengar access to Temper + Haste :p

@StarshadowMelody

Жыл бұрын

idk when I think of mages in RPGs I think of big damage special moves without a lot of bulk backing it up, glass cannon style.

@JJSquirtle

Жыл бұрын

@@StarshadowMelody I repeat. We should give Gengar Temper + Haste

@KilaKaKa

Жыл бұрын

My favorite is misdreavus

I've always theorized that originally ghost and psychic were the same type at some point in development. The notable lack of any real planning or testing with gen 1 ghosts being a prime example. There's one ghost line, two moves, and none of it works right. Add on that a lot of tricky moves are psychic: reflect, light screen, hypnosis. Not only that, but later on psychic gets ally switch and synchronoise, with synchronoise in particular seeming like it should be ghost type instead as hitting psychics with a psychic move is decidedly not stonks, BUT gamefreak wrote themselves into a corner as the move sounds psychic.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

That's a really interesting thought. Now that you lay it out, it makes complete sense.

Gengar: I wish my ghost moves were special Sneasel: I wish my dark moves were physical

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

Then Gen 3 comes along with like 3 more physical dark types for some reason

Ghost/Dark Gengar would've made a lot of sense considering how hard it was to get trade evolutions at the time. You had to find a wild Gastly by playing at night, raise it to level 25, then find someone with a Link cable to trade it back and forth with. The immunities would be much more deserved than with Sableye, which you can just catch in the wild before the 2nd badge in Hoenn

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

Oh god, I forgot Gastly evolved at such a high level. 25 is just too far to have to climb with a weak Pokemon like that.

@renatoramos8834

Жыл бұрын

@@GohLow it's not weak, gen 2 moveset just sucks.

Game freak actually managed to pull off the trickster ghost type with Sableye, but they needed to give it a special ability (prankster) and wait several years to give it enough support moves to do its job (encore, disable, recover, taunt). There is no way they really intend ghosts to be support based tricksters when sableye (and maybe dusclops) is still the only ghost that can do this as far as i can remember. Imagine if all ghosts automatically had prankster and good support moves - that would make things interesting.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

That's a good point. But in that case, I'm at a loss on what they were actually trying to do with Ghosts. Every one of them gets access to tons of support moves along with very limited offensive options from Ghost moves, but can learn a bunch of coverage moves that catch people off-guard.

@iantaakalla8180

Жыл бұрын

I guess the intended point of Ghosts were to be fast surprising sweepers given what the best competitive Ghosts can do. Froslass does not count as that is an Ice type abusing its frailty correctly.

@shadow_realm47

Жыл бұрын

I think all ghosts should either have a quick 60 base special move like shadow ball, shadow punch or shadow sneak which you would think is a physical move but it tricks you. To make up for the low speed and sp. atk. And a main 90 base damage physical move so you get to chose what type of build you wanna do. A sweeper or a frustrating tanky status wall. Ghost should also get better physical defence. And nearly pseudo legendary stats as there are very few each game.

@mr.sandman7339

11 ай бұрын

Mega Banette is another prankster ghost that I always felt like was missing some more support moves. Its only niche was prankster Destiny Bond, which was cool but very limiting and in the end, they just leaned into making it more of a physical attacker with really awkward stats otherwise. Unfortunately, from gen 7 onward, they made dark types immune to prankster moves so that 2 mediocre ghosts could get completely screwed over.

@RTU130

11 ай бұрын

Right

All hail Misdreavus the cutest ghost pokemon! Ghost in my mind shouldve been a defensive version of psychic. It shouldve resisted psychic from the start, and once you factor in the 2 immunities, they could add defensive ghost pokemon that focused more on the tricky style they intended (like dusclops in gen 3) earlier.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

An outright resistance to Psychic would have been fantastic and given them a lot more room to work with different ideas.

@renatoramos8834

Жыл бұрын

@@GohLow And the only other resistance should be poison. This way the ghost dark combo would be weak to bug.

@ultimatewinfestation7194

11 ай бұрын

Resisting Psychic wouldn’t have help Gengar in Gen 1 do to it’s Poison typing

@renatoramos8834

11 ай бұрын

@@ultimatewinfestation7194 You are mathematically wrong.

@sladevalen2120

11 ай бұрын

@@ultimatewinfestation7194 resisting psychic would mean Gengar only takes neutral damage from psychic. Add on it's great special stat in gen 1 and it would be able to actually live an Alakazam psychic which is huge

Still find it incredible that Ghost Type actually had a great niche just because Normal was such a powerful type, despite Ghosts sucking at doing the things they were (supposedly) designed to do. Anyways, favorite Ghost will always go to Chandelure, who also happens to be my favorite pokemon ever!

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

Chandelure has one of the best shinies in the series, absolutely glowing and surprisingly menacing.

@DarthZ01

Жыл бұрын

for me, it's honedge. literally farmed a shiny one from eggs the second i could catch one when i played pokemon sword. and basically played the game as a 'ghost gym leader' aka a six ghost team. (didnt play x and y, so sword was the first game i played with honedge in it)

@durk5331

8 ай бұрын

@@DarthZ01Love that you did that, I actually did the same thing with Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Ghost, Normal, Poison, Psychic, & Steel... The ones I had the hardest time making good teams for were Psychic & Fairy surprisingly...

@LeahLuciB

7 ай бұрын

OMG do you have a link to the full image from your pfp?

@yosha101

7 ай бұрын

@@LeahLuciB No can do, it is... fetish-y in origin... But, hey! If you're okay with a Klara that has a couple hundred pounds tacked on I'll gladly share it! (though youtube is *very* strange with links sometimes)

I feel like they kind of have hit the intended feel for some ghosts in recent generations, a lot of them have tricky abilities or signature moves that let them kinda change the way the game works in subtle ways. Good examples are Mimikyu, that's going to use disguise to take a free turn on you no matter what you do, or Aegislash being a tank when you hit it, but a glass cannon when it hits you. Even Shedinja, i think was a really good example of what ghosts should have always been aiming for, yes, it's gimmicky, but that feels appropriate for ghosts. Even when you look to most fiction, if you actually HAVE something that works on a ghost, it isn't too hard to deal with, the problem is that very few things actually work on a ghost. So thematically, Shedinja was perfect. Other abilities like shadow tag, and mummy I think really kind of hit the mark for the tricky shenanigans that should define the type. I think zoroark should have been a ghost, or part ghost, because illusion is very fitting for that tricky ghost identity, too.

@Stratelier

11 ай бұрын

Hisuian Zorua/ark in Scarlet/Violet (imported from Pokemon Legends Arceus) gets to keep the Illusion ability.

Gengar and Nidoking were my favorite Pokemon in Gen 1. I remember how Ghost types were presented as the counter to psychic mons, so i was glad to have Gengar for link-battles. And then my Gengar was always stomped, what a deception.

Ghost type is one of the few types in the series where I feel every design is at the very least good, so narrowing down a favorite for me is a tall order, but Runerigus holds a special place in my heart. I used it on an ancient-themed trick room team alongside mons like Perrserker and Cradily when I was first getting into competitive on the Doubles UU ladder out of all things, and its great defensive staying power, wide move pool, and fun shenanigans with Wandering Spirit made for a lot of memorable plays that cemented my love for this series.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

Doubles UU was your first main format? That's really cool! Always love seeing what interesting theme teams people can come up with, made even better when those teams can put in the work.

@elemangell2981

Жыл бұрын

​@@GohLow VGC is my main format nowadays both as a player and spectator, but I still keep up to date with the singles meta, play randoms occasionally with friends, and I also really wanna try and set up a draft one day too. The recent vids on the format by folks like PokeAim have been really cool and interesting.

With Gastly clearly being a poison type based on its design, I'm guessing they probably thought it would just be weird for it to lose a type when evolving. That said, I do think there was some intent to give Gengar a "poisonous" image. The spikes may have been intended to reflect that poisons and toxins often come from thorns, stingers, or fangs, and poison is almost always represented with purple in Japanese media. With special being a single stat in gen 1, I think they made ghost a physical damage type to take advantage of the lower defense most psychic types had and with lick being the only "standard" ghost attack I'd say physical made more sense at the time.

Gengar is likely poison type because gastly is the poison gas pokemon. Also, i imagine ghost was phsyical because psychic types generally have poor physical defense, but thats just my guess.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's why I put such a focus on Gengar's dex entries specifically. The Poison type is a carry-over from Gastly and while it worked there, it stopped working once they hit Gengar. There isn't any instance of a dual-type Pokemon changing its type upon evolution amongst the Kanto dex, so I see why they just left Gengar Poison.

@THGMR-ox7sd

11 ай бұрын

I think gengar still has some poison in the design.

@mira55x-planetnalzena15

11 ай бұрын

@@THGMR-ox7sd I mean it seems Gengar likes to torment people that drives them to complete sanity according to the Red and Blue dex entry... "Under a full moon, this POKéMON likes to mimic the shadows of people and *laugh at their fright.*" kinda like how someone uses poisonous words to mentally torture the victim that can result in taxing their mental health?

@Jw87563

11 ай бұрын

@@THGMR-ox7sd purple body? I got nothing.

Ghost types are my favorite because of all the meaning and depthness that comes with their lore and their designs, you could always tell that there's a big story behind a ghost Pokemon's existence by just looking at them. Also yeah, I never fully understood why the heck the Gengar line was poison type.

@Wiggins-

Жыл бұрын

I believe the reason why is because Gastly is literally made of poison gas, that, and without a dark type, poison sort of works as a stand in for evil and underhanded in a "corruption" sense, and poison was easily the most underhanded/evil type at the time As to why they didn't change it to make it ghost/dark in gen 2?... probably they either liked where gengar was at type-wise, they may have felt gengar would have been too strong, to keep the line more consistent, or they simply didn't put in the effort to change a previous pokemon they felt was complete

@mr.sandman7339

11 ай бұрын

@@Wiggins- They didn't make it dark type bc then they'd have to acknowledge that they put all the dark types (besides Umbreon) in Kanto for no reason.

@Wiggins-

11 ай бұрын

@@mr.sandman7339 valid lol

The thing about gen 1 is that its design took a lot of cues from traditional RPGs of the era. Ghost types were designed to be Pokemon's equivalent to "formless" enemies which were immune to basic attacks and only vulnerable to spells. Their primary role wasn't to counter psychics, it was to counter Normal types, as the Normal type was Pokemon's equivalent to the RPG basic attack. Yes, they were one of the few types intended to do super effective damage to psychic types, but they weren't meant to be a perfect counter. As for why ghost was physical, I think it's because they realized that the only Ghost move was Lick and it wouldn't make sense for Lick to be Special. After Gen 1, they carried over the physical damage to subsequent gens out of adherence to the established design, or laziness.

@Begeru

11 ай бұрын

Except they made the Dark type in Gen 2 Special - even though every single Dark type move introduced became Physical in Gen 4 (like Bite, Crunch, and Faint Attack).

@joaopedroathayde757

11 ай бұрын

​@@Begeruthe thing is, they introduced both Dark and Steel on the same gen, and if both had been physical then it would be 10 physical types to only 7 special ones which would be imbalanced, so GF probably had to make that choice because steel being special makes even less sense

@Begeru

11 ай бұрын

@@joaopedroathayde757 My point is that their logic is inconsistent. If they made Ghost type physical because if Lick, then why didn’t they make Dark type physical because of Bite?

@joaopedroathayde757

11 ай бұрын

@@Begeru I explain in my first response why they likely made Dark special. It was not because of the moves, but more likely because having two new physical types back in gen 2 would mean a lot more of those compared to special types, so either Dark or Steel would have to be special to keep it balanced. Which one sounds more like they would have non-physical powers?

@thomasffrench3639

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, Pokémon is very heavily steeped in Japanese media, which is missed by a lot of people, because of how wide it’s reach is.

The Gengar line should have been changed to Ghost/Dark in Gen 2, similar to how the Magneton line got changed to Electric/Steel.

@darosilvertail7957

8 ай бұрын

Thing is they added the steel typic to magnemite and magneton, not change it

I wasn't expecting a fighting game tangent in this video, but I'm not complaining. My favorite ghost type is either Haunter (for its design) or Mimikyu (for design and using it).

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

Yeah neither was I when I started writing the script lol, it just ended up working. Haunter's gen 2 sprite is one of the best. It looks perfectly evil.

@AtH1338

9 ай бұрын

Yes I love Haunter. Gengar is my favorite mon strictly because I got a Haunter pokemon card and I couldn't stop looking at it lol.

@waterierStone

7 ай бұрын

I love haunter too. It's the only ghost type that actually looks like just a plain old ghost. Then it evolves into gengar who just looks like a little goblin.

The fucked up throughline I can see for ghost being physical goes back to being the other counter for psychic aside from bug. If anything has lick (something that's pretty common), sick! You have coverage to deal with psychics. And the only damaging move has extremely low base power. On the mascot ghost line being godly special sweepers. L+no shadow ball yet+you're poison.

@Icemario87

Жыл бұрын

Lick had no effect on Psychics. Even if it did, the damage was so low that it wasn't really worth giving up a turn for. Better off quaffing a potion or using Confuse Ray.

@naamadossantossilva4736

11 ай бұрын

​@@Icemario87Or using Thunder Wave.

The only reason why Gengar is relevant in Gen 1 OU despite having flaws, it's because it can stop a Explosion/Body Slam just by switching in

My fav used to be Gengar, but is now 100% Golurk. It's a mech, it's a Golem, it's awesome.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

I had Golurk in my Type Wild Deluxe video! I have no idea how it wasn't one of the most promoted Pokemon in Gen 5. Should have had a whole area built around it and its lore.

@Jw87563

11 ай бұрын

And it can learn Fly, I shit you not. Apparently, it turns into a rocket.

I was a Misdreavus simp for the longest time and they somehow managed to make Misdreavuser in Flutter Mane that I absolutely love, even though it’s busted in competitive and should stay in hell where it belongs.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

Dammit, that reminds me, I had a bit about Missy at the end that I forgot to add. 5-star Pokemon, absolutely adorable.

@iantaakalla8180

Жыл бұрын

And all it took was a gimmick that will basically never return and busted stats “to give love to a forgotten Pokémon line”.

As a competitive ghost mono user, ghost types tend to do best with weird gimmicks and shock factor they have a ton of weird niche moves. Oh and my Fav is Gourgeist, they're the definition of unpredictable with the size mechanic.

@mrmacura3421

Жыл бұрын

Yes, my experiences of going up against Mono-Ghost teams taught me the same

I think early GF SAW poison as the evil type. Many things we would probably assume are dark (evil) type ended up with Poison. Gengar, Arbok, Koga. It’s honestly a bit weird that Koga had pokemon that would be really good at taking out Poison types. Not many elite level trainers had pokemon strong against their main type unless that was the type’s thing (ghost, dragon).

In general, I think gamefreak underestimated the value of STAB in RBY. At least four types have absolutely abysmal STAB options. Anyway, hot take, while Ghost might’ve been a hot mess in earlier generations it was much more interesting because of it. I feel that too many modern Ghosts just abuse their largely unresisted STAB. Removing Steel’s Ghost resistance might’ve been necessary to nerf that type but they should’ve given it to some other type to compensate. Personally I would choose Grass as it’s the closest we have to a “Life” type. My favorite Ghost Pokémon is Trevenant. It’s got such a badass design with its cyclops eye and horn-like branches and I love the name.

@renatoramos8834

Жыл бұрын

Each type counts as two duo to physical and special. So a ton of types didn't have a proper stab and even today, decades later, some types still don't.

I found 2 of the 3 shinies upon first watch. My favorite Ghost Pokemon is Trevenant. Because a spooky tree who just punches people REALLY hard is somehow very funny to me. Honorable mention goes out to Aegishlash, because it makes you feel like a tactical genious despite it just beeing overtuned.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

I've made so many people forfeit on Showdown making hard reads with Aegi; it's hilarious how it can cause matches to snowball like crazy. Trevenant is awesome too, and I really hope we get a haunted forest level with it as the focus in any game at some point, main-series or side-game.

Gengar is a poison type due to Gastly being a floating ball of gas. Also since the poison type was supposed to represent the “evil type” back in gen 1 before dark was introduced

Great Video!

GF: *makes 2 non legendary physical ghosts* Smogon: banned

Sabeleye and Golurk are my absolute favorite ghosts. Sabeleye didn't start out that way but it started to grow on me and then BAM mega evolution hit it and I was hooked

Loved this. I think Gamefreak may have made ghost a physical attacking type initially due to Lick, not that this is justifies the decision lol. Keep up the good work!

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

I would be much more accepting of that answer if Lick was a good move lol.

This was a great video man, keep it up!

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Got a few more like it in the scripting stage right now.

Incredibly well made video!! Honestly thought you’d have more subs. Loved it:)

@GohLow

11 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I very much enjoyed this video! Thank you

Three day wait for a premiere? Bloody hell

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

All of my videos go out on Saturday. I just put the premieres up as soon as I'm done with the video now, to get it out of the way.

GF definitely has its favorites and it’s red headed step child

I never realized it took till gen 6 for there to be a decent physical attacking ghost type/move. That's so rough, good vid Goh Low

0:16 Magikarp 5:12 Girafarig 10:14 Banette

@davarrashayde

11 ай бұрын

YAY, after watching and scrolling down for a while i thought that i was the only one who saw them all ^_^ of the three though i'm not sure who's my favorite...if we're going off aesthetics then for me that'd be Magikarp, if we're going based on the one i'd likely put in my team then Banette...but that's also only if it's restricted to JUST these 3 shinys not including the rest of their lines.

I like your videos because you talk slowly, use pictures, and explain throughly. Which is great for someone like me who is a very casual Pokémon fan,

This is why I gave Gengar 'wonder guard' in my mod and made ghosts immune to rock, steel and fighting attacks. Respect Gengar, yo.

My favorite Ghost type (and pokemon overall) is Hoopa. Love that little prankster

I mean, to me it seems the most likely explanation that ghost was physical because in Gen 1, as mentioned, the only ghost move was lick. Lick, is a physical move even later, so the typing would be physical too. If shadow ball existed, I’d imagine it would be special (but this is just me guessing) Then it just stayed the same. Almost the opposite issue to dark in Gen 2. As every dark move introduced in Gen 2 would be physical later, but it was special in game which hurt Pokémon like Sneasel even more.

@Ditidos

11 ай бұрын

Dark being special was good for Houndoom, though. A shame it was a post-game mon. Were there any more special-leaning dark types before gen 4?

@masmurdermonkey9233

11 ай бұрын

@@Ditidos I’ve had a look quickly, and no. Not really. There’s an argument for Umbreon, but really that’s more defensive than either attacking side. But otherwise you’ve got: Mightyena - physical Absol - physical Murkrow - sort of balanced, but Murkrow isn’t great anyway Sneasel - as discussed, physical And Sableye - more physical.

It’s so strange bc on paper it should be tied with Fairy as the best type, with its great resistances and immunities but it’s such a shame that ghost Pokémon as a whole are still suffering from the blunders of the past

I kinda assumed that Gengar was originally going to be ghost type, but they added poison because it was too powerful. Even with poison typing (which not only makes it weak to psychic, but ground too) and no STAB attacks, it’s still one of the best in Gen 1 due to a fast sleep attack, a fast explosion, normal immunity and high special. Why on Earth the anime played up the idea that “it’s the only thing that can beat psychics” I have no idea. 😅

Meanwhile all I'm thinking about is "Oh yeah, Persona 5. What a dark game that was."

Dude I’m playing P5 while listening to this. Excellent choice for bg music

@GohLow

11 ай бұрын

I use it in all my videos; it fits everything.

What Ghost type could have been. Sad!

I love the way Duskull looks, but I've only had mild success playing with them. My favorites for ascetic AND game play is between the Litwick family and the Honedge family.

@GohLow

8 ай бұрын

I remember when those two families first came out, they got made fun of so much, but they really are great designs.

Ægislash is probably my favourite ghost type. Used him in my first playthrough of Y and competitively when he was broken as well.

In a rom hack duo I’m working on, I have reworked the type listings, and I am choosing to see how Ghost fused with Psychic ends up, known as the Spirit-type. There’s some interesting side effects like Alakazam OHKOing itself or Gengar hitting Machamp for STAB 2x, but from what I’ve tested so far, it works really well. I won’t go too deep into it though.

I never understood why Shadow Ball reduced special defense as a physical attack.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

It's like they knew it was wrong in the moment and just said "Fuck it"

0:26 *flashback to when I used to play Pokemon Type Wild in early 2010s and made videos of it*

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

Made two videos on it recently imagining expanded rosters for it. It was in recording footage of it for this video that I learned Gengar could do Air Shadow Balls

I was sure Phantom force was a signature move of brambleghast, never knew dragapult even had it

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

I had it confused with Shadow Force, Giratina's signature move. Wasn't until seeing this comment and checking around that I learned they were different moves.

GameFreak have always been the prime example of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Their code is always a mess, and there's constant inconsistencies with design vs gameplay. They've gotten slightly better with recent games, as they've put more intention into the competitive aspect of the games.

Also, Bone Club being Ghost and making the Cubone line part Ghost woulda helped just a little

I think that’s the entire point actually, you’re right. Ghosts need more moves that will do things if the opponent does a certain action. Like how all Dark moves cause the opponent some trickery.

That Gengar looks hilarious, I'am exited for the video. Btw. congrats on the Nuggets winning! It was even enthusiastically reported on mainstream german news outlets. Funny how people in Europe where noone cares about basketball can be more exited about the nuggets than certain american sports journalists :p

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

It was awesome! I stayed up til like 3AM watching celebratory streams, just loving it! Central/Eastern Europe actually has a massive basketball history - Germany, Serbia, the former Yugoslavia have contributed so much to the game that kinda just gets ignored everywhere else - so it was nice for someone from that region to finally be at the top of the league.

Gengar is also literally the shadow pokemon, so you would think dark rather than poison. It also evolves to being a lot heavier tham Gastly and Haunter, so you could see the type change from beimg poisonous gas. My favourite ghost pokemon is Mimikyu.

Poison was the “dark” type in gen 1 thematically. Thats why he was part poison

Man I love getting KZread videos from The alternative universe in my feed.. wild I feel bad for you that you have such dog Pokémon hopefully in your next life they will be better ❤

Ghost type is strange that it had almost no interaction with the other types early on offensively. As a type and lack of stab options. Which made them bad picks for being a ghost type. Instead used for thei other traits. Which made them bery mid for a long time. To now they are one of the top 4 types from this very decision to under develop the type. Ghost has very few weaknesses which are neglible ones to have. Great immunities and restinces. Its basically fairy type before fairy type existed and we didnt know it.

@tayIorswif

Жыл бұрын

It's resists are pretty ass

@JO-iv7tl

Жыл бұрын

@@tayIorswif ghost use to be trash entirely.

@robertoalexandermendezmore408

Жыл бұрын

Ghost in gen 8 and 9 is pretty much gen 5 dragon type, not a lot of type interactions but that make them broken with their highe stats, reason becose right now they are strong, all ghost now are beast of 530 or more total stats

@JO-iv7tl

Жыл бұрын

@@robertoalexandermendezmore408 I agree.

@tayIorswif

Жыл бұрын

@@JO-iv7tl you said great resistances

It's interesting you bring up the fighting game comparison here, but don't talk about Gengar in Pokken! I play competitively, so I can comment on that a bit: In Pokken, Gengar is essentially a resource management/Install character, though also with an emphasis on "tricky" moves and characteristics somewhat in line with what you propose/bring up: A lot of his moves have a lot of i-frames which allow him to phase through other attacks, plus a lot of cancels and variations on the same moves to keep the other player guessing what version he'll actually use past the intial startup (though to be clear, cancels are things all characters have and Garchomp, Libre, and Decidueye are more dedicated mixup characters). His most notable trait though is his very slow meter-gain rate which at a high level encourages you to go for setups and combos which build a lot of meter, and that his burst state, which is Mega Gengar, acts as an install transformation which basically changes his entire moveset and is easily the best character in the game, with multiple fullscreen options (which you can combo out of!) absurdly damaging grabs, and an unblockable super. Your comparsion to setplay and space control characters is actually a better description of Sceptile or Darkrai then Gengar, though: Sceptile is a mid range trap character, but is also capable of playing rushdown or pure zoning if he needs to, and fills the ninja character archtype: Het can set leech seed and seed bomb delayed traps and hazards, can throw out leaf shuriken which float as active hitboxes in midair, has a substitute log counter, an iajutsu mid range slash with armor in Leaf Blade, giga drain as a long range command grab, and leaf storm as an anti air izuna drop command grab. His basic gameplay is basically using leech seed, seed bomb, and the shuriken as tools to lock down the enemy at mid range or long range, then nail them as they approach with lead blade, grab them with giga drain if they stay in one spot for too long, or can use leaf storm (or more often, anti air combo starters since leaf storm has drawbacks even on hit) if they approach while jumping. Darkrai on the other hand is more of a dedicated space control/trap character without Sceptile's versatility, though also has install aspects: A lot of people incorrectly see Pokken as a 3d arena fighter, when in reality it's mostly designed around it's 2d phase and has all the competitive systems traditional fighters have like unique movelists, a height system (tho it works wierdly), cancels, just frames, and concepts like footsies, meaties, neutral, etc, but Darkrai is relatively unique in that his kit is designed around the 3d phase as much as the 2d one (wheras for most characters, the 3d phase is basically just a glorified second layer of neutral): Darkrai's normals in the 3d phase all set traps, with different traps setting both floating active hitboxes/hazards, and can also be triggered to then do different things like launch projectiles, explode, form different hitboxes, etc, many also of which leave the enemy in an extended stun state. Using those, he can actually do full extended combos even in the 3d phase. However, what he really wants to do is use Dark Void, which if it lands, shifts you into the 2d phase while giving Darkrai a install Bad Dreams Rising state which heavily buffs his toolkit: Without it, he CAN set traps in the 2d phase, but in BDR, all his moves, including normal hits, also set traps at the same time and traps are able to be activated instantly rather then only triggered after being set, and he gains a few new moves and better frame data. So Darkrai is all about staying in field/the 3d phase as much as possible, racking up damage with traps there when others characters can't, and then landing Dark Void to enter the 2d phase with BDR. He also gains resource stacks every time he sets a trap which he can cash out to boost his Dark Pulse special or for buffs. Darkrai is MAYBE the most technical character in the game, alongside Aegislash (a stance character which gets buffs the more he switches stances) and Shadow Mewtwo (a glass cannon with stupid meter gain rates and can alter the properties of his moves AFTER he uses them to reactivate hitboxes or changing projectiles mid flight, but uses his health as a cost to use specials)... I guess Gardevoir also has a lot of space control tools but this comment is getting long enoguh! I'd suggest checking the game out if you haven't already since you clearly like fighting games and Pokemon, but I checked your other fighting game videos and you seem to like fighting games with a big emphasis on longer technical combos, and Pokken is much more neutral heavy, even more then something like SF, so i'm not sure you'd be into it. Still, if you have questions, I'd be down to answer! Some characters with really nutty and flashy combos are Sceptile, Decidueye, Weavile, Garchomp, and Scizor. I play Weavile, myself, though I use him more as a neutral heavy hit and run character: a lot of his longer combos require wallsplats (but they look so sick and are pretty demanding in terms of timing and spacing, so you may enjoy that) or super technical corner carries.

You know, it’s a miracle that Ghost is currently one of the best types in the meta because they used to be passed off as a “weaker Dark type”, which is sad considering Ghost existed before it. Great job with the video. I’m not to sure which is my favorite Ghost type but I like Decidueye a lot, so I say Aloha’s Grass starter.

THANK YOU! I constantly struggle with the pitfalls of Ghost types even in gen 9. It feels like Ghost types often go into one extreme or the other: The fast, high Sp. Atk or Phys Atk Ghost (i.e. Gengar, Dragapult) or largely bulky types with limited movepools and high Sp. Def. The base Stats are mediocre at best and the selections are just not as good as other mons like Steel, Fire, Water, Dragon. I just wish there was a viable Rock/ Ghost type.

@GohLow

8 ай бұрын

You'd think with all the ancient ruins we've seen throughout the series, we'd have gotten a ghost/rock inhabiting one of them.

Ghost couldn't be special because Game Freak reserved Special to Types that were... special. Starters, Eeveelutions, Psychics, Dragons. These types are Special because their respective Pokémon have special characteristics.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

What makes Psychic more "Special" than Ghost? They're both in the same weird metaphysical bend. Or hell, what makes Ice more special Ghost? Ice is just hard water, so it should have been physical.

My guess as to why ghost was made physical was because dark and ghost were similar, hitting both ghost and psychic for super effective damage, so ghost was made physical, and dark special. Also, dragon being special before gen 4 also leads to believe that they didn't want to make dragons broken, like it happened in gen 4

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Physical Dragon Claw and Outrage just outright broke Garchomp and Salamence, in combination with their many coverage moves. Dragon being a primarily special type even after the split would have been a more balanced way to approach it given how physically strong most of the dragons already were.

@Eichro

11 ай бұрын

dark was only introduced in gen 2 though, so that doesnt make too much sense to me, unless dark was removed late in development in gen 1.

@Scoitol

11 ай бұрын

Ghost being special and dark beating physical would've make more sense

Poison looking at the good mons on the table: Toxapex and Naganadel only practically ☠️☠️

I've always thought that Agatha should have been referred to as a poison type trainer considering the fact that all of her pokemons are either pure poison type or half poison type

The reason Gengar is poison type is because its the evolved form of Ghastly... which is a poison gas cloud.

Didn't know how much I needed a video to say "This Pokemon thing is dumb, this would be way better as a fighting game"

My favorite Pokemon period is Chandelure, so I think that tells you who my favorite ghost type is

I don't mind gengar being poison due to from playing the games as a child till now I've rationalized that the gas that gastly embodied would evolve with him and gengar the final form his body was spectral and still maintained the toxins. His pokedex talked on sapping things and while sapping proactively isn't typical of toxins (external body) the spectral side added to his niche

Personally, Rotom is probably my own favorite Ghost-type, and I say that as someone who didn't even want to then shove it into an appliance, to get rid of its Ghost-type, in exchange for Ice, Grass, Flying, or Fire. I just like it's look, it's aesthetic, and while it was useful crammed inside a pokedex, I like to imagine using it for various other exploration advantages, if you could befriend the little, electric gremlin.

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

I bet they could make a really interesting 3rd-person puzzle adventure game built around all the different ways you could use Rotom to possess items.

the same problem with every flying typo also being normal stype, nullifying their resistance to fighting

Out of all the ghost types i find the tree ghost the coolest mostly because it is an massive tree that is haunted making it even more creepy.

Appearance-wise, my favorite is haunter. It really embraces the ghost type fully. Kofagrigus is really my favorite to use in game. A bulky boy with tricky moves and status moves? I'm sold.

@GohLow

7 ай бұрын

Haunter's Gen 2 sprite is the best a Pokémon has ever looked

imagine getting yourself a haunter to beat sabrina like ash did in the anime

Haunter has been one of my favorite designs since I was a very small

Favorite ghost is definitely Drifblim. Really customizable with 3 neat abilities and constantly slept on even in the lower tiers. With its huge HP stat, unburden, and acrobatics, it can be adapted to all sorts of goofy counter strats. In gen7ru I eventually realized almost every spinner could hit it either super effectively or not at all (well tsareena could power whip it, but generally wouldn't), so I EV'd it to live every spinner's attack, slapped on a weakness policy, and put it on a webs teams. Really goofy and won me some funny games. The only thing that's really excited me in gen 9 so far was running mirror herb sets on it, which are less directly useful but about as funny. Also more frequently manages to be a wincon when it does go off (I think this is more that it got strength sap in gen 8/9 than anything though).

Gengar having no usable stab in gen 3 is honestly what made it so versatile and cool

Whoever was in charge with type balancing must have hated Pokemon.

My level 67 Gengar the crown jewel of my pokedex back in 1998/99. It was kinda hard to find someone with a link cable back then. Found a kid that wanted to trade his haunter for my gravler. Raised it from the low 30s to level 67 before I quit playing. It's moves were: 1.Lick 2.Nightshade 3.Hypnosis 4.Dream Eater It was super strong against most pokemon.

Gotta love Pokemon pre-physical special split.

My favourite ghost has to be Lunala! I'm a sucker for moon related motifs in media. Ghost types are weird, man. You can sometimes tell that some types struggle escaping their own "niche" after the gen IV transition, like special attacking fighting types or physical psychics, but the ghosts are there especially. Only a few ghosts are physical attackers, snd if they don't have signature moves they suck hard, like Dusknoir, Golurk or Banette. Hell, Golurk has iron fist and has to settle for shadow punch. Physical electric types are in the same boat, but ghosts are more ironic since it used to be a physical type before lol, it's weird

Damn, imagining a timeline where Gengar is Dark is wild.

I love psychics, hex maniacs, etc and so I typically try to make my teams with Ghosts, Psychics, and Darks. Gengar is my go to but I also love Decidueye (Cheating with starters though), Golurk, Chandelure, and Dusknoir.

Ghost is my favorite type! Haunter was my favorite pokemon until X/Y where I saw 3D Misdreavus being cute af lol

Great analysis. Personally, i wish they would have made a regional form of a ghost pokemon (maybe even gengar, instead of its mega) that is ghost/normal type. The two types would cancel out each others weaknesses (normal is immune to ghost, ghost is immune to fighting), and getting STAB on normal moves, while at the same time being immune to them, is cool as hell^^.

@GohLow

7 ай бұрын

More than anything, I'd be fascinated to see what a Ghost/Normal Gengar would look like. I couldn't design it if I tried because "Normal Type Gengar" just does not compute for me.

I’ve always like Misdreavus, and Mismagius was a core part of my party when I played Pokémon Platinum. Definitely my favorites out of the ghosts, cuz I like the ‘mischievous cutie’ vibes. Next I’d say Shuppet and Banette, because I always love the haunted doll aspect, and Mega Banette is a genuinely good Mega-Evo that does more with the concept than just throws spikes on it. Third I’d say Rotom, even if’n I never used them in a game, just cuz I think they’re cool and the whole “possesses electronics” concept is fun - probably shouldn’t give them the keys to run every single aspect of your world’s communications and Pokémon storage grid though, lmao.

It's a very interesting idea that since ghosts are tricksters they should also set hasards. Ghosts haunt houses and burial grounds and so could their moves haunt the opponent.

@GohLow

11 ай бұрын

I'm surprised Curse wasn't modified to be something more like a hazard in later generations.

@Mattias_the_unimpressive

11 ай бұрын

@@GohLow Yes, and another move from the same generation; Spite... Useless as an active move, but as a PP hazard it'd be a terror for stall teams.

I don't get why they removed Gengar's levitate. Like he's a ghost, he can fly around when he wants too.

what's my favorite ghost type is a toughie, only because there are a number of well-designed ghosties... I think it might be either Gourgeist, Alolan Marowak, or Basculegion....

chandelure is my fav just really like the spooky fire and the color

Glengar being poison would, at least imo, make sense if it maintained the gaseous theme that gastly sets. It doesn't seem to last even with haunter, who only seems to be poison because of licks lore effect

@GohLow

7 ай бұрын

Yeah that's really what I've realized about it since making this video. Gastly is the only one that actually plays into it despite the type caused by the gaseous nature stopping with it.

Gamefreak doesn't know how to treat a lot of its types. The best examples are Bug, ice and poison, with poison getting somewhat better with the introduction of fairy types. In a lot of cases, gamefreak would prefer to leave them without changes instead of improving them

@GohLow

Жыл бұрын

There's a great video looking at how screwed Ice types got. It's pretty recent iirc

@aelvric7579

Жыл бұрын

@@GohLow I know, I already gave it a like