Shingles soapbox: My mother had shingles before the antiviral was commonplace. She had in her doctor's words 'the worst case he'd ever seen'. She had postherpetic neuralgia. For the rest of her life she could only wear certain fabrics, couldn't be touched in that area, couldn't sleep on that side. Tried TENS, nerve blocks, acupuncture, everything short of addictive painkillers. Had to switch to an office job because she couldn't physically do her usual work. When we went anywhere we flanked her to block accidental contact. A simple bump in a crowd would cause her to cry out in pain. I'd hear her sobbing when she thought she was out of earshot and my mother was tough. If you can get the vaccine, do so. If you can't or choose not to, be aware of what shingles feels like and if you think you have it, get to the doctor without delay. Educate and monitor older relatives and friends Antivirals help immensely. She died with that awful pain. Spare yourself and those you love that agony.

@sectionalsofa

26 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing your mother's sad story. Sorry you had to witness her pain. I'm 71 and intend to get the vaccine soon.

@sschreck08

26 күн бұрын

I had it, not as bad as your mom, but omg, is it painful!

@dianeladico1769

26 күн бұрын

@@sectionalsofa Thank you. She was a wonderful lady and did not deserve that but bore it with grace. Please do protect yourself. Wishing you good health.

@dianeladico1769

26 күн бұрын

@@sschreck08 Sorry you went through it. Hope you're better now. Wishing you good health.

@coreenwalker9286

26 күн бұрын

I’m so sorry your mom experienced that extremely painful aftereffect. I’ve had shingles three times and was fortunate enough to go to the doctor the first day of the rash. The other two times I went for treatment when it was barely muscle soreness and tenderness. Even so, healing seemed slower and nerve pain increased each time. Shingles is no joke.

Read “Turtles All the way down…vaccine science and myths”

As another poster said, I want to hear what Goldhamer’s stance is on things like shingles and covid vaccines.

Serious question - this is all based on independent non-industry funded studies?

Vaccines have done wonderful and horrible things. I hope that Dr Gregor will look into the industry meddling in the outcome studies. He needs to be as skeptical of vaccine schedules as he is of the food pyramid. Even better, I’d like to see him have a discussion with vaccine-cautious MDs and PhDs.

@robinsmit1632

25 күн бұрын

First learn to spell his name right

The shingles vac stopped my discomfort getting that painful concern.

I am curious about Dr Gregor’s thoughts on the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Act? Isn’t it interesting that pharmaceutical companies have 100% immunity from financial liability if their product injures or unalives someone? Same with the doctor, pharmacist, nurse or whomever injected it. I am also curious about his take on the lack of studies for safety in the last 35 years and that they do not use a real placebo to test a new vaccine. I am curious as to why he claims to be vegan but thinks it is ok to inject animal products as part of a vaccine. I am also curious about his take on the lack of testing on combo vax and how more and more vax are being added to the child and adult schedules without testing for safety on how many are being given within a certain period of time. I will not stand in judgement for your seeming bias and ignorance on these issues but it is difficult to take everything else you say at face value and especially since I heard you basically making fun of those of us whom you deem “anti vax” on one podcast. Please be willing to take a look from a neutral standpoint and not just from what you were taught by the pharmaceutical companies in charge of your medical training.

This comment section is wild.

@rangererock5567

26 күн бұрын

He started it.😷

My friend Andrew has had five vaccinations including his boosters, he has had covit three times, i have had no vaccinations and covit once.

@carbondory

26 күн бұрын

Cool, I guess?

@FortheHealthofit.

26 күн бұрын

❤❤❤

@knittersknots

26 күн бұрын

@@mysurlytrucker7510 ignore the naysayers. Please, I hope they take all the vaccines , boosters and whatever else they can. It’s not science, it’s called brain washing. They are shills paid to come on here to try and strong arm anyone from saying anything negative.

@Mikathedog100

26 күн бұрын

What a weird anecdote

@Joda30088

26 күн бұрын

​@@Mikathedog100 This anecdote just seems to keep coming up over and over and over. Hmmm maybe Dr. Greger and the CDC need to study what in the vaccine is making people worse off

What exactly do vaccines have to do with evidence-based nutrition?

@scandeeply

11 күн бұрын

Shut up man

I love this channel!

I would think that the majority of viewers would be eating a whole food plant based diet. With that in mind they would be less likely to be susceptible to the infections these vaccines are designed to prevent. For instance a study of diet on the Covid infection was shown that those who are mostly plants were 70% less likely to contact the illness. ( the percentage was from memory. It may not be exact.) if our immune systems are much stronger, how effective would the vaccines be on us? That is what I would like to learn. But I’m sure the tests of this would not be done.

@Mikathedog100

26 күн бұрын

Dr Greger writes about this in his book. The healthier you are the better your immune response will be to a vaccine and it's effectiveness.

As someone whose family member has a preexisting health condition, thank you Dr. Greger for using your platform to promote life-saving vaccinations! ❤💉 Let's keep ourselves and vulnerable members of our communities safe from preventable diseases by staying up to date on our shots, including COVID and flu vaccines!

I had a covid shot and I've been dead for two years.

@Mikathedog100

26 күн бұрын

As long as you keep getting the boosters you'll have a healthy afterlife 😉

@soyboy2238

25 күн бұрын

Brain dead anyway.

I’m 58 years old and have had Covid twice now the first time the symptoms lasted five days. The second time they lasted three days and I am unvaccinated my wife, however, is vaccinated and caught Covid. This spring and the symptoms lasted two weeks for her.

@Joda30088

26 күн бұрын

She probably experienced antibody dependent enhancement, which is the antibody created from the vaccine and actually helps make the viral infection WORSE!

@MrMopbucket

26 күн бұрын

@@roligue Anecdotal "evidence" here we come.

@LV-qr8fr

26 күн бұрын

I think less people would say this from their point of view bc it's normal to not get it when u got the vaccine. Like, 'i got the vaccine and also didn't get covid' like duh. Why not vax if that's the case?

@dianeladico1769

26 күн бұрын

That's interesting but purely anecdotal. I'll get a cold or flu and DH doesn't. On the rare occasion he gets the flu with me, he feels icky for a couple of days and I'm flat on my back for over a week. Just our individual reactions to infection.

@sarahmh3971

26 күн бұрын

You 'unvaccinated' your wife? Why not let her make own decisions for her body. Btw, anecdotal evidence is real and should be shared. Those people should not be shut down bc you don't want to hear it.

As the good Lord is my witness I've only had 2 flu shots in my lifetime and both times I got the worst and only flus EVER!!! The second time I seriously thought I was going to die it was so bad. Never got a flu shot since and thankfully I've not gotten the flu again since. My husband swore by them but the last one he got his arm turned black. I'm not exaggerating, it was literally black and stayed black until he passed away.

@donnaw1835

26 күн бұрын

Oh goodie. Personal stories. I’ve had a flu shot every year for the last 25 years. Never got the flu :)

@ExtraSubtle

26 күн бұрын

@@donnaw1835 I never had a flu shot and never had the flu.

@roddyx3559

25 күн бұрын

Adverse reactions to vaccines rarely get reported.

@CaseyCJL

25 күн бұрын

@@donnaw1835 "The Science" is very manipulated and has been for a long time, so personal anecdotes from honest people is something i take seriously... Watch some of RFK Juniors interviews on the pharmaceutical and vaccine industry to learn about all the copious fraud.

@noremac4807

25 күн бұрын

Same here

the second shingles vaccine kicked my ass

@dianeladico1769

26 күн бұрын

How so? I need one.

@joyceelmer131

26 күн бұрын

@@dianeladico1769 I don’t know about @ronviers, the 2nd shingles Vax made me sick for 2 weeks- headache ,muscle aches, fatigue,fever. Not fun. Don’t know if I would get the 2nd one after that. But it’s done now and I’m fine

@ronviers

26 күн бұрын

@@dianeladico1769 it was like having the flu, minus the respiratory stuff - the standard way vaccines always hit me but more intense. i did get that bad flu in 2017 and the second shingles vaccine was not as bad as that, so it's just something you have to power through. plus, he said it only hits people hard about 10% of the time so you will probably not have issues.🤞

@dianeladico1769

26 күн бұрын

@@ronviers Thank you. I'm getting it for sure but just wanted to be prepared. I usually just get mild ickies with a flu shot so I'm hopeful. 🙂

@janiehill4256

25 күн бұрын

@@dianeladico1769 I got the “ickies” too. I was surprised because I had never had a reaction before. But one day of crappiness is certainly better than getting shingles.

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Can we trust the RAND corporation for such important matters??

Let me put my tinfoil hat on before I look at the comments…

@DH-uw3us

26 күн бұрын

LOL

@grasmi

25 күн бұрын

@@DH-uw3us I think you meant LDL, given the channel...? :)

@zzt231gr

25 күн бұрын

@@grasmi Have your boosters,too!

@grasmi

25 күн бұрын

@@zzt231gr Check. I’ve put massive boosters on my tinfoil hat.

Vaccine lawyers play a critical role in protecting the rights of sheeple who have been injured by vaccines. If you or a loved one has been injured by a vaccine or any other poor-mans' medication then it is essential to seek the help of a qualified (vaccine lawyer) who can guide you through the process of (filing a claim) and seeking compensation against the "science"

I hope everyone advocating for vaccines is keeping up with their covid shots. At the minimum annually, as recommended by our public health experts for everyone 6 months and older. Quietly stopping is not ok.

@Joda30088

26 күн бұрын

The current amount is at 6 shots! Dr. Greger better have all 6 plus the new one coming this fall

@LV-qr8fr

26 күн бұрын

If u go to all your checkups why wouldn't u not just get them? Not like it's a big thing? Lol.

@LuminousReminders

26 күн бұрын

​@@carlosangeleszThey don't know what that means.

@DH-uw3us

26 күн бұрын

If you're not high risk, why get the shot if you're healthy?

@DH-uw3us

26 күн бұрын

@@TT-zl7ir What would be the purpose of a healthy person getting the vaccine? They can still get Covid, so what is it protecting?

Several years ago i got Shingles . I took the antiviral pills as prescribed along with the accompanying pain medication which messed up my brain. I also started using Lions Mane mushroom extract in large doses. The pain went away quickly after that and i returned over half the pain medication to my pharmacist.

@LuminousReminders

26 күн бұрын

That was your wake up call.

I had an extreme reaction to the Shingrix vax, so bad I didn't get the 2nd dose. But the first dose is still over 80% effective. And I had Zostavax back when that was available. I plan to take antivirals if I ever get shingles. I get my flu shot at the beginning of September because one year I got flu on Sep 24. Never been that sick in my life. Got post viral syndrome, had to go to the ER, 3 months in bed, another month on the sofa. Got better just in time for covid lockdowns!

I appreciate how Dr. Greger conveys the science, clearly and honestly, even if it's something a portion of his audience doesn't want to hear.

@DivergentDroid

26 күн бұрын

He's Clearly Lying through his teeth you simpleton.

@LuminousReminders

26 күн бұрын

The science that was already proven scam in court ? K

@luke_fabis

26 күн бұрын

​@@LuminousRemindersFirst off, that never happened. You can't even name a single case. Second, courts don't determine what is or isn't good science. Bad science is superseded by good science, and no single study is authoritative compared to the consensus. A handful of impressionable laypeople in a jury box don't know better than the scientific community.

@Mikathedog100

26 күн бұрын

​@@LuminousRemindersno

Great information.

„Oh no, the science doesn‘t confirm my conspiracy theories, so I will hate Dr. Greger“ - comment section

@LuminousReminders

26 күн бұрын

Science comes in different branches and sub-disciplines. Try again ?

@Alexander-ok7fm

26 күн бұрын

@@LuminousReminders No matter what kind of „subdisciplin“ of science, every science uses the same evidence-generating mechanisms on the basis of empiricism. Could you name me a single study, which results in a negativ attitude against vaccines?

@LuminousReminders

26 күн бұрын

@@Alexander-ok7fm First, look at your STUPID comment at top. You use the word science as if we all must follow it. When in reality science breaks into different branches that we can all choose from. Your science is welfare science. Vaccines are for poor, government raised people. No offense.

@ritadallas670

26 күн бұрын

​@Alexander-ok7fm Can't post the studies here, they keep removing them. I wonder why that would be?

@JasonJrake

25 күн бұрын

@@Alexander-ok7fm “Vaccines” as a whole aren’t evil, but some are more risky than others (like any drug) and the denser schedule early in life seems to have increased risks of side effects. Many allowed in the U.S. are illegal in other countries where their governments aren’t getting campaign donations from drug makers. The companies making them getting immunity from lawsuits in the U.S. should be a red flag for ANY product.

This is what controlled opposition looks like. Gaining the confidence of people trying to optimize their health through diet and exercise, then leading them to his pharmaceutical masters. His next book should be "How Not to Understand Nutrition".

@ritadallas670

25 күн бұрын

@peterjsmith5918 And if his new book has a vaccine chapter it definitely has the wrong title!

I listed to this until you said that smallpox was eradicated by vaccines. That assertion is fundamentally false by the time vaccines came on the scene small pox was nearly wiped out by the use of proper hygiene and sanitation. In fact in most cases proper hygiene and sanitation are more effective against the spread of disease that vaccinations by an order of magnitude. Now when i got bit by a feral cat i went and got the rabies vaccination and tx series because proper hygiene and sanitation do notr stop the spread of rabies but not getting bit by a wild animal does wonders to prevent its spread. So in that case getting a vaccination does make some sense. If i am traveling to a place that has poor hygiene and sanitation then a small pox vaccine might make sense or it might make better sense to avoid travel to such places. Continuing to vaccinate people with small pox in areas where theres no cause for conecern, in a place with proper hygiene and sanitation is just giving money needlessly to big pharma.

@luke_fabis

26 күн бұрын

Nobody's continuing to provide smallpox vaccines anymore. Smallpox is gone. And yes, you CAN ascribe it to vaccines. There was a concerted push from all the major powers in the world, including the Soviet Union, to wipe out the disease. This wasn't some Big Pharma conspiracy. There's a world beyond developed countries with modern sanitation systems, lest you forget.

@EVanDoren

26 күн бұрын

@@luke_fabis When smallpox disappeared from Britain, less than 40% of the population was vaccinated. Read about Leicester. Read Suzanne Humphries.

I think the good doctor and anyone who is concerned about objectivity would benefit immensely from reading the book "Virus Mania" by Torsten Engelbrecht et al. In my opinion, the good doctor's not very well informed on this topic and his bias is very evident.

@quinnpens1323

17 күн бұрын

"Virus Mania" was written by a random Dutch "freelance journalist" and a German "specialist of internal diseases," both of whom have little to no online footprint outside of this SELF-published book from 2007. (Oh, and co-author Kohnlein in an interview on a German conspiracy theory website, KenFM, claiming covid was a non-issue in April 2020.) Anyone can pay to self-publish, and you *don't* have to pay for good editing or fact-checking in the process. Engelbrecht's bio mentions that he has written articles for Medical Hypotheses, which sounds like a medical journal but is NOT peer-reviewed and is best known for AIDS denialism. None of this suggests quality information. At best, these two are crackpot conspiracy theorists who paid to self-publish their anxieties. At worst, they're scam artists capitalizing on fear. Whichever the case may be, they are not a quality source.

Science deniers won't like this lol

@Joda30088

26 күн бұрын

Supporters of this are not science minded, they're dogmatic

@rangererock5567

26 күн бұрын

Like totalli. Omg

@carlosangelesz

26 күн бұрын

People who think won’t like it.

@charleslindsey6789

26 күн бұрын

@@carlosangelesz Denier denying, as usual.

@LuminousReminders

26 күн бұрын

​@@charleslindsey6789 Vaccines are for poor people on medical or other welfare-aide service. I'm glad I'm not getting poor people treatments

All the butthurt antivaxers in the comments lol

@Joda30088

26 күн бұрын

No, all the vegans that are pro science and against unnecessary and harmful medical interventions are in the comments

@LuminousReminders

26 күн бұрын

Butthurt over what, exactly ? Nothing ??? Just making up things in order to attract the antivaxers to come and make fun of the sheeple 😆

@scubameg

26 күн бұрын

How does having a different opinion and wanting to have an open discussion make one "butthurt"?

@ritadallas670

26 күн бұрын

​@@scubameg Can't discuss the real scientific evidence here, they keep removing my links.

@Denise-ux4xd

25 күн бұрын

Read the DESCRIPTION of the vaccine inserts & see how 🤪 pro-vaxxers are.

I will never put that poison in my body ever.

Yes, they all work.

@rangererock5567

26 күн бұрын

At what cost?

@melon.

26 күн бұрын

usually not much statistically. sore arm for a day, temporary fatigue.

@pluribus_unum

26 күн бұрын

@@rangererock5567 - The _TLDR_ of this video is that both the individual and the collective benefits of these 3 vaccines (flu, pneumonia, and shingles) outweigh the individual and collective risks of not using them. This video goes into some of the research on that for the vaccines covered; flu, pneumonia, and shingles.

@LuminousReminders

26 күн бұрын

​@@pluribus_unumHundreds of doctors don't agree with any of this. Sorry 😅

@pluribus_unum

26 күн бұрын

@@LuminousReminders - They all work; what this video is about is that the flu, pneumonia, and shingles vaccines are more beneficial to personal and public health than they are a risk to them (video includes citations for the research used.) The damage wrought by bad faith actors is pilloried in my comment to summarize that reality.

The clot-shot you mean?

Poor little science deniers are doing their usual freakout, snowflakes. lol.

@LuminousReminders

26 күн бұрын

Science comes in different branches and sub-disciplines. Try again ?

@charleslindsey6789

26 күн бұрын

@@LuminousReminders no.

@Denise-ux4xd

25 күн бұрын

Read the DESCRIPTION of the vaccine inserts 🤪🍆💉☠️

@LuminousReminders

25 күн бұрын

@@charleslindsey6789 Anti vaxers always win

What a load of rubbish

I ban you for life for this propaganda piece.

@sschreck08

26 күн бұрын

Bye! 😂😂😂

@sschreck08

26 күн бұрын

@@carlosangelesz So you're a PhD or scientist or do you get your facts from the Internet?

@LuminousReminders

26 күн бұрын

​@@sschreck08Science comes in different branches and sub-disciplines.

@donnaw1835

26 күн бұрын

Bye bye, you won’t be missed.

@ritadallas670

26 күн бұрын

​@@sschreck08 Are you saying the scientific journals aren't on the internet? That's hilarious.

Nope!

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