Plane Descends Too Low
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Boeing 777 approaching below glide path in Phuket, Thailand
• PHUKET beach LOW and L...
Lancair LX7 runway overrun on landing
• LX7 Lancair Aircraft a...
SWISS Boeing 777 encountering 50 knots crosswind
• SWISS B777 crosswind o...
LOT Boeing 787 Dreamliner autopilot fighting turbulence
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Avianca Airbus A319 cockpit view takeoff in Rio de Janeiro
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Everybody on the beach: "Wow a 777" In the cockpit: "Too low terrain…20…terrain Terrain PULL UP…10…"
@eisbeinGermany
28 күн бұрын
@hilman94
27 күн бұрын
i love how russian pilot always consistent with "we pay for the whole runway, then we'll use the whole runway" principle 😁
@crossfield.
27 күн бұрын
The callouts dont work like that.
@u2bear377
27 күн бұрын
Too low, fence!
@tomb1345
26 күн бұрын
The terrain alarm doesn’t sound within the approach minimums
To be fair, there's a bit of an optical illusion (parallax view) effect on that first 777. The camera was further away and there was a small bluff in front of the camera. The 777 was higher above the threshold than the slight rise directly in front of the camera.
@koleknight
28 күн бұрын
Yes, and it was not filmed from the same place at all.
@tonamg53
27 күн бұрын
While you’re correct, the plane is still coming in way too low than usual. You’re supposed to be at 50 ft above the runway threshold when landing…. I’ll give that 20 ft above max.
@petesmith1924
27 күн бұрын
It was too low, whatever you think about parallax.
@Geofs_339
26 күн бұрын
And I think that the pilots approached deliberately that low, maybe for some planespotters.
@shireenbegum9166
22 күн бұрын
This beach needs to be turned into maho like in st.masrten, there needs to be a fence and a bar at the corner
1:04 "Hi car insurance, I'd like to file a claim." "What happened?" "I hit an airplane" "Can you repeat that, please."
@BillHinnoude
28 күн бұрын
🤣🤣
@starpawsy
27 күн бұрын
ACtually, it was "an airplane hit ME"
@PearlCityBeats
26 күн бұрын
followed by the claim being denied because I'm sure the insurance company wouldn't cover it.
@paulis7319
26 күн бұрын
Police report: You're at fault for driving past the end of the runway. Insurance company: Denies claim and drops coverage
@hollylovesgiraffes
21 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
"Coming in low is just something you have do when you're landing." -- Ted Striker
@tonyf9076
27 күн бұрын
Surely you cannot be serious ?
@rixxy9204
27 күн бұрын
Don't call me Shirly. I picked the wrong week to quit horse tranquilizers!
@tonyf9076
27 күн бұрын
@@rixxy9204 shall we get you to a hospital? Why what is it ? Well it's a big building with doctors and patients in, but that's not important now....
@tedstrikertwa800
27 күн бұрын
You know it
@Mom-USMCRichardUSMCChristopher
27 күн бұрын
🥀🇺🇸🥀 I read your comment and couldn’t stop laughing! Great sense of humor!
I suspect the Lancair was fast on approach too, after the bounce or even before should have done a go-around.
@lbowsk
28 күн бұрын
Hell of a way to ruin a perfectly good airplane. He appeared to be absolutely hauling ass and had plenty of energy to GA and try it again.
@iMin00
26 күн бұрын
@@lbowskhe did not. The power lever broke. That’s also why he was too fast.
@celderian
25 күн бұрын
@@iMin00 Then why not put the prop in beta range as soon as he hit the ground?
It was only 10knots of cross by touchdown, wind is always stronger higher up.
@petesmith1924
27 күн бұрын
Indeed. I paused the video and zoomed in. 10kts across at 50ft, zero wind at touchdown. Not exactly challenging!
@stuka101
24 күн бұрын
yep - this channel sometimes has the dumbest quotes.
The Santos Dumont departure is very nice
That Lancair was sickening..... such a beautiful slick airplane. 😪
@SirKober
28 күн бұрын
Wondering why no go around...
@Leonardokite
28 күн бұрын
@@SirKober I'll bet the pilot is still saying the same thing.
@TC-bz9dz
25 күн бұрын
the power lever broke
@xs10z
3 күн бұрын
@@TC-bz9dz no joke... sounds reasonable, actually
My favorite is the Rio takeoff. I took off from that airport a couple times. That's not even Rio's main airport, but it is the most scenic.
@vieuxbal1253
27 күн бұрын
Amazing indeed. Have you experienced a take-off at New York La Guardia? This is something, too.
@myfavorites9686
7 күн бұрын
I was in a hotel in Santa Teresa Rio de Janeiro , sitting at the veranda , overlooking the Pão de Açucar mountain and the runaway of Santos Dumont . Nice to see the opposite way 👍
I bet a lot of people on that first plane were yelling "Phuket".
@hessranch
28 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Sklounst_Actual
28 күн бұрын
That doesn't really make any sense
@Emmettb08
28 күн бұрын
@@Sklounst_Actualyes it does
@Sklounst_Actual
28 күн бұрын
@@Emmettb08 Nah
@767_Aviation
28 күн бұрын
@@Sklounst_Actualit’s probably a bad word in Russian
Extra 4 seconds of aviation today
How do you come up with 50 knots crosswind in the Swiss Clip? At the beginning you can see a wind of not more than 45 knots on the NAV display which equals a crosswind component of around 43 - 44 knots. And later on as they get closer to the runway the wind calms down to just round about 10 knots. And if you take into consideration, that the wind is coming from the front right, you get a crosswind component of round about 8 - 9 knots when overflying the runway treshhold. Not any second was there a crosswind of 50 knots during the whole clip
Can someone in the know suggest what went wrong with the Lancair LX7? I can see from the caption that it lost a bit of runway due to the bounce - but apart from that it seemed to come in faster than expected for a light aircraft, and then didn't seem to slow down very much at all. Based on the engine note - the rpm didn't seem to change much - am I correct in thinking the pilot didn't cut the engine? I'm interested to hear an expert take please! Also, that seemed like a go-around would have easily saved the day (and a million dollar airplane), correct?
@kevelliott
28 күн бұрын
It looked like a downwind landing (I haven't checked if a windsock was visible) as the aircraft lost NO speed at all - and you're right, a go-around would have been the best choice.
@Cantthinkofahandle117
28 күн бұрын
I've seen that clip before. If I remember right, he came in to fast and should have just gone around. I think that was not his first attempt and he got frustrated and didn't want to go around again so he said f' it. Problem with standing on the brakes like that, when he locked up the wheels he lost most of his braking ability.
@johnmorris7815
28 күн бұрын
As I understand it he couldn’t get the prop into beta range which means he had thrust on throughout the rollout, should’ve gone around.
@fluchterschoen
28 күн бұрын
@@johnmorris7815 Ah. So it was correct that the engine revs didn't seem to drop, but the propeller pitch stayed in thrust instead of going into neutral or reverse? I guess maybe in that situation, once the pilot had selected the beta range, even though it wasn't happening it might have caused a decision-making conflict around whether to continue with the landing or to go around. If the prop-pitch actuators were malfunctioning there would be concern that neutral or reverse thrust could kick in at any moment (and after pulling the nose up, sudden loss of thrust could be catastrophic).
@MeppyMan
27 күн бұрын
The knob fell off. No joke that’s the pilot’s excuse.
Nice to see the comparison between those approaches! Really shows how low the Aeroflot was!
@JohnyG29
28 күн бұрын
No, the camera wasn't at the same angle.
@ChuckieFinzter
28 күн бұрын
It looked like the video was taken from a lower position. @JohnyG29
@3MinutesofAviation
27 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@petesmith1924
27 күн бұрын
It is irrelevant what camera angle each was taken from. The first aeroplane was WAY below 50ft crossing the landing threshold. That makes it dangerously unstable, which should have lead to a go around.
"Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for flying with us today. I hope you have a pleasant day, welcome to Phuket." "Captain, that's not how it's pronounced. Though I do now understand that landing you just did."
Swiss B777 wind on landing was only 8 knots from the 2o'clock position. So total crosswind component probably 4 knots.
The autopilot wing movement, stabilising the plane...it was like watching an armoured cyborg albatross wing... Perfection. Mankind has mimicked and recreated the best of supernature.
the Aeroflot T73/ER is every plane spotters dream :-) !! can`t get too low enough :-)
1:51 i like this sentence structure, where you start with the "importent" part wich is what to look for in the clip, and then after that you give the aircraft data and follow up info. It's especially nice for us non-native english speakers that read a lot slower and some times have trouble reading all the text before it goes away.
@BK-qp8zp
28 күн бұрын
You can slow down the playback speed in the settings. I find it quite helpful.
Your videos are the only ones I can hit a thumbs up BEFORE I view it LOL
Nah. That "nominal landing" was taken at a different angle at a different spot and that made it look higher than the other landing.
Awesome episode!
I was there at Phuket yesterday! Unfortunately they were taking off towards the ocean, but I landed from this side and the weather was stormy. Quite a landing!
I like flying in and out rof Rio's Santos Dumont airport. You get an excellent view of the city and the magnificent scenery.
Love your garden! Nice job!
Your channel inspired me to start mine! Great work and great content ❤
Awesome 👌 Greetings from Helsinki
@3MinutesofAviation
27 күн бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
Some of those remind me of my first few weeks of MSFS.
Thank you for the credits! Anytime again! Cheers,Dominic
@3MinutesofAviation
27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the cool videos you have, keep them coming 😍
great capturing.
Thanks!
The Swiss 777 landed with 10 kts cross wind you can see on the ND. Above 1000ft was 40 kts.
Best 3m I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen almost all of them
Wonderful videos as always! The runway excursion one... was that bloke playing golf next to the runway😅?
@chrispop99
28 күн бұрын
Gardening, I thought. He was more chilled than I would have been!
@flyingmyles
28 күн бұрын
@chrispop99 yes that would be a very big golf club looking at it now
@FunYl
26 күн бұрын
Right, airfields are perfect for it
@flyingmyles
26 күн бұрын
@@FunYl Google golf course at Bangkok Airport, its as close as this video!
@miked9958
15 күн бұрын
looks like a weed whacker
Good. Thanks.
Soooo much good stuff as always !! Maaaan that first one was low and oops that was quite a prang after falling off the end of the runway😂
Great video!
Nice video!
Deve essere un vero spettacolo per la gente su quella spiaggia ogni volta che arriva un aereo.
Nice video
Very cool! 😁👍
0:36: The Lancair LX7 crash occurred on 11 November 2023 at Aero Country Airport (T31) in McKinney, Texas. According to news reports, the motorist sustained minor injuries but the pilot and passenger in the LX7 were not injured. The NTSB preliminary report for accident number CEN24LA037 is worth reading.
@ifly135
27 күн бұрын
Door seal fail, throttle knob unscrewed and came off, failed to go beta. Maintenance issues will get you, but there is no way that the pilot shouldn't have noticed the knob was loose. Bounced, then applied brakes half way down the runway. Pilot error, anyone?
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
27 күн бұрын
@@ifly135yup. Touched down too fast.
The Aeroflot 777 wasn’t even that low, it is the perspective. The first clip is filmed from higher compared to the second clip which is almost at sea level and also different angle.
Super 👋😃✈️
The first two were taken from different vantage points and were about the same hight.
Don’t listen to the hate comments. Your videos are perfect
Pilots are awesome…. Most of them! ❤
Pilots are so cool
Time 01:13 and on. Where is the sidewind? The land with the node straight forward as it looks.
I did my UK PPL and I recall when training I did a landing in a small Piper tomahawk in Cardiff Main airport Wales UK and the cross wind weas so strong i actually lined up the runway through the passenger window until the last 200 ft, scary
Love the 1st video trying to show the difference in approach from two different angles. To me I think they were both the same.
nice!
That didn’t look like a crosswind landing at all. At 50 knots of crosswind, the runway wouldn’t be at 12 o’clock. It would be visible out the side window.
"Plane descends too low" to land. That would be underground. A 50 knot crosswind with the nose pointing straight down the runway. Amazing. No yaw. That flaperon was working really hard. So much work. And here's a plane taking off, filmed by the -hijacker- flight engineer.
@tomlee7956
28 күн бұрын
There was NO 50 knot crosswind. If you check the instruments, the wind was from about 40 degrees to the right of the nose, 194 degrees at 11 knots, which means, there was virtually no crosswind, in other words, it was a piece of cake. At 50 knots direct crosswind, you see the runway off your side window and not directly in front of you.
@theozonloch
28 күн бұрын
Well, the crosswind on approach was ~45kt but during the landing itselft it was 10kt at most, so the title is kinda misleading and that's why there is almost no yaw. Crosswind limit on the B777 is 38kt so you'll never see an actual landing with 50kt crossind ;)
@theozonloch
28 күн бұрын
@@tomlee7956 pretty much what I said xD
@tomlee7956
28 күн бұрын
@@theozonloch You might see an actual landing with a 50kt crosswind because the 38kt is maximum demonstrated and thus, it is not limiting.
@theozonloch
28 күн бұрын
@@tomlee7956 I know it's a reference but I can guarantee you that no pilot would land in a 50kt crosswind. And in most cases airlines SOPs are inline with the recommendatios from the manufacturer
"Captain, you need to approach a but higher!" "Oh, Phuket..."
The Texas airport seems to have a busy road much to close, with minimal barriers?
2:39 - runway heading. C'MON. You can make it.
That first still photo looks like St Maarten...Lived nearby...Beacon Hill...1977
Pause at 0:21 and measure the distance between engine and fence (not even ground). The engine diameter is around 3.3 meters. I clearly see that 2 engines can stack up and fit on top of the fence. This gives us around 6.6m, which is 20 feet.
Perspective.🛫
We own you 4 seconds of aviation
oh wow
Was that a car hitting that plane after it left the runway?
@--SPQR--
27 күн бұрын
Nope, probably just a big cow doing 55.
@ge2623
27 күн бұрын
@@--SPQR-- I hate speeding cows.
At 0:46 into the video the plane on the runway appears to be in front of the tree which appears to be well off the freeway?? Edited video? What else might be altered?
Lve the video
I appreciate that this is located in “Fuck it”, Thailand. Makes sense.
Crazy
Non aviation guy here but I love the videos. Question: when landing is the voice giving the distance in meters or feet?
@CZedby
26 күн бұрын
Feet, apparently.
Strictly speaking that's not the autopilot manipulating control surfaces itself, but the flight computer simply maintaining stability.
Hmmmmm, don’t think that was 50 kts of crosswind. During flare the wind was quartering down to less than 10.
Stood on that beach many times and lots of planes come in really low though I think that one takes the biscuit
1:05 - the people in that car can say "I was in an airplane accident," and we weren't even in the plane! Scary!
Poor Lance, by the numbers baby.
50ktz X wind without any crabing that is the joke of the week 😂
Unbelievable!
1-The different position of the camera makes not a good comparison; 2-50 knots crosswind?; 3-those camber flaps always work a lot, even in normal conditions (the external ailerons only work at low speeds, nowadays), they are less powerful than external ailerons because of less momentum
0:41 hasnt this clip made the rounds several times already?
When we had rough air at cruise two things happened quickly....auto pilot turned off and speed was reduced. You let the aircraft go and gently corrected the pitch and roll.
The humble flaperon works extremely hard whilst passengers sleep comfortably on their seats.
The 787's autopilot fighting turbulence to keep the plane stable is doing more than just keeping the wings level. In the 787 the ailerons also act as "direct lift" devices to counter increases and decreases of lift due to up and downdrafts, thus smoothing the ride, acting like the suspension of a car.
@Coretron
27 күн бұрын
Fascinating. That was my favorite part of this video
@RomeoJulietCharlie
27 күн бұрын
It’s the flaperons and elevator which move to reduce the effects of turbulence. It’s called gust load suppression. Supposedly helps to reduce airsickness by a factor of 8! The ailerons are locked out at high speed, so the flaperons and spoilers provide roll control in the cruise.
@adb012
26 күн бұрын
@@RomeoJulietCharlie ... Thank you for correcting me. This "piece of control surface", that is, the "aileron" between the inboard flap and the outboard flap, was called "high speed aileron" in older models like the 727 and 747 (among others). And I am older so... 🙂. In those planes the outboard aileron (called "low speed aileron") was also locked at high speed and the "high-speed aileron" would do the rolling together with the spoilers. At low speed, high-speed aileron, low-speed aileron and spoilers would work together for roll control. The difference was that this high-speed aileron would not deflect together with the flaps when extending them. In the 787 (and 777) it does, hence "flaperon", as you said. But we were both talking about the same control surface.
@RomeoJulietCharlie
25 күн бұрын
@@adb012 thanks for the info! I never did get to fly the 747. We were retiring it, unfortunately, so I went down the 777 then 787 route after about a decade on little Airbuses.
@adb012
25 күн бұрын
@@RomeoJulietCharlie ... I never flew the 747 either, or the 727, or anything with more than 1 piston engine... 🙂. Hey, derailing the conversation, it's not every day that I have the chance to chat with someone that flew A and B. Quick silly survey 1) Sidestick or yoke? 2) Airbus's or Boeing's approach to FBW?
The first pilot was like “my approach is off, Phuket”
Everyone in the comments: Mainly expert pilots Me: 1:55 reads "the autopilot" and thinks about "oh my god, the automatic pilot is deflating" lol. What a great movie.
“50 knots of crosswind on final” The wind was literally calm at touchdown. Over dramatized as usual😒
@Jake-1234
28 күн бұрын
Yes but he didnt say it was 50knts on touchdown beacsue a plane would almost never land in that stenght of wind. Stop getting upset about things and acting like you were lied to when there was clearly no misinfomation.
@iflyplanes687
28 күн бұрын
@@Jake-123450 knots of wind on final is not noteworthy. “Handled perfectly by the pilot” It was a completely normal landing. If that was noteworthy, then I should be posting pictures of the 200 knot crosswind at cruise altitude for publicity and views too. The person who runs this channels is very well known for using subtitles that are misleading to potential viewers to gain viewership. They don’t deserve the credit it earns.
@Jake-1234
28 күн бұрын
@@iflyplanes687 Im sorry firstly a plane would have a high chance of crashing at 200 knots so you clearly havent seen that before as a plane would never fly through winds like that. Secondly the crosswind max winf in knots for the 777 300 is 35 knots. quit yapping bro
@--SPQR--
27 күн бұрын
@@Jake-1234my brother in christ just admit it's over dramatized, it's ok
@Jake-1234
27 күн бұрын
@@--SPQR-- I aint your brother in christ so shut up and dotn insult me.
Lancair was a throttle handle coming off. Not late braking
Aeroflot allowed to land in Thailand? Or old video?
1:25 notice the lack of crazy fast and excessive control inputs.
I never noticed how much Boeing's landing altitude voice sounds like Hank Hill
Good job, autopilot.
50 kt crosswind? The nav display shows single digit wind velocity in the flare. 😂
**in the ER* Doc: What happened to you? Patient: I got bopped upside the head with a 777 tire. Doc: WTF
The second one is funny 😂
The SWISS 777-300ER clip would have been more interesting if the camera had stabilized on the cockpit, instead of the landscape outside the cockpit screen. :-)
Why did the Boeing 777 300ER blush? Because it saw the runway threshold and approached below it to fast!
At 0:55, I still can't believe there's a road at the end of the runway
The lancair landing looked like brake failure. Look at the smoke coming out of it
1:09 …. 50kt on final but wind calm during flare, no wind on ND !
777 X-wind limit is 38kts - The wind direction/speed indicator on the navigation display shows 11kts of crosswind for that approach & not 50kts. Clickbait.
Didn’t know Aeroflot was still operating in Thailand
LX7 crash was needless. Go around!
0:37 To be fair to the pilot, it's hard to land when the heat index is 101105.